This is why not tilting is so important. Most guys who are even slightly annoyed/ tilted would probably snap and call it a cooler. The line and the stack sizes make this one a really easy fold though. People on bovada don't play that bad to make it a call lol.

The KQ hand is a probably a bigger leak / more important to fix for your game though.

Thanks. This is an oversimplification but I think if you're ever in a spot where your own range is very obviously strong and your opponent is piling in a ton of bbs then he probably has it.

AA/KK will usually be 4 bet pre but I think a lot of rec players will cold call AK. On the river i think when he jams in almost two buyins into a range of the top full houses it's probably unlikely he has just Kx or any bluffs. If you ever see wtf spaz it's usually going to be from a short stack, not deep stacked vs my obviously strong range.

Where is the leak or are you just talking about how players play this spot in general? I would agree. I feel like being able to fold in these spots where you have a very strong hand then get a turn or river that a) greatly de-values your hand and b) makes it tough for your opponent to have bluffs is where a lot of money is made from a w/r point of view.

I was speaking more in general. I think most people know how to play the top and bottom of their ranges pretty well but they suck with the middle/ vulnerable parts of their range. And that directly coincides with small/ medium sized pots. So most people end up bleeding in those spots without realizing it or caring too much about it.

To be fair that aren't giving that much up on a per hand basis so it's easy to dismiss/ overlook. The problem is the majority of pots are small to medium sized and are in the lower to mid of their ranges. So those hundreds if not thousands of pots they give up EV every month adds up quickly .

Yea I guess based on the bet sizing that was going on you both were fairly deep so I can see V flatting with AK or even sometimes AA.

Continuing with the theme

PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 103 BB
Hero (SB): 228.18 BB
BB: 172.6 BB
UTG: 38.28 BB
MP: 93.84 BB
CO: 119.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 4

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6 BB, 2 players) 3 5 4
Hero checks, BB bets 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, BB calls 6 BB

Turn: (24 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 13 BB, BB calls 13 BB

River: (50 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, BB bets 31 BB


PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 28.55 BB
CO: 98.5 BB
BTN: 114 BB
SB: 200.04 BB
BB: 101 BB
Hero (UTG): 98 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A

Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, CO calls 2.5 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 3 4 A
Hero bets 3.25 BB, CO calls 3.25 BB

Turn: (13 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 6.5 BB, CO calls 6.5 BB

River: (26 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 22 BB, CO raises to 86.25 BB and is all-in

Why x the flop with 44? Not really feeling the x/r there.

I dislike you’re river sizing with AK as well. Readless spot but I’d rather bet smaller or x/eval with the intention of calling.

His value hands are two combos of A5s and 76ss so he’s a little light on value unless he’s slow playing flopped 2p+ on this board.

Feels bluffy in a readless vacuum however.

Bvb the oop player should be doing a lot of checking on this board. Of course betting a set isn't a bad option either.

My thinking on the river with the sizing is it's tough for him to have a straight, a lot of his range is just an Ace, my range has AK when his doesn't so I can bet big.

H1 you should cr way bigger. Turn is a check. River is a fold.

H2 readless and presumably not a fish means you need to check somewhere. Even against a fish the river sizing gets way too many Ax to fold.

Agree the xr should be bigger in hand 1. I don’t think the turn is so black and white. A set benefits from value/protection vs over pairs with a club, Acx, 66, 56 and building a bigger pot when we fill up and get more value vs a flush. At the same time I don’t think checking is a bad option either.

Hand 2 I think AK on this board is basically the nuts a lot of the time vs players who will not play mid-low Axs,76s, or low pairs as cold calls pre co vs utg. I don’t want to check any street with a hand this strong. I will try to include some no equity bluffs in this line and punish his capped range with a larger sizing since this board and runout is so much better for the pfr. I don’t think it’s correct to assume AQ/AJ/AT are auto folding river vs this sizing

Why do you think villains will call AT from CO vs. UTG but fold A5s?

Bc AT > A5 . A lot of regs (like myself) would just 3b or fold A5 in these positions. Btw I’m not saying no one is ever calling this, it’s definitely probable/possible

This is why it's so important to review hands so you know what general tendencies for fish and regs in the pool.

It's bovada so if it's against a fish he has A9s+ ATo+ A2-A5s, sets including a lol 99 peel, sc and broadway spades. Generally you would expect a raise on the flop or turn if he had 2p+.... so he has a ton of Ax and busted flush draws. I don't expect a fish to turn top pair into a bluff and I don't see him calling with less than AQ too often.

Against a reg it's almost impossible to be called by worse otr. A good reg is going to have Some AK, and he'll either raise or fold AQ which puts you in a bad spot.

Lol at thinking we can't triple barrel for value here...

I'm not even good at this game anymore and I would raise or fold AQ, and raise or flat AK and fold everything worse.

If you bet less I'm forced to call more often with a weaker range and less likely to turn a pair into a bluff or raised a busted FD.

Going for 3 readless, oop, against a presumed reg (of unknown caliber) is just asking for trouble imo.

44 hand I folded he had Q7cc

AK hand I don’t care that he doesn’t rep much. It’s these spots where ppl will bluff less imo, especially vs my sizing. I folded he had A2hh

Decent bluffs or spew?

1)PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 139.12 BB
SB: 154.6 BB
Hero (BB): 266.06 BB
UTG: 323.65 BB
MP: 415.93 BB
CO: 154.79 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 8

fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) T 5 6
Hero checks, BTN bets 5 BB, Hero calls 5 BB

Turn: (16.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BTN bets 8 BB, Hero raises to 22.5 BB, BTN calls 14.5 BB

River: (61.5 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 38.89 BB


2)PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 131.2 BB
SB: 129.1 BB
BB: 95 BB
UTG: 111.57 BB
MP: 109.25 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K Q

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, BB calls 7 BB, fold

Flop: (19 BB, 2 players) 4 T 7
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (19 BB, 2 players) 5
BB checks, Hero bets 19 BB, BB calls 19 BB

River: (57 BB, 2 players) A
BB checks, Hero bets 44 BB


3)PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 112.75 BB
SB: 122.66 BB
BB: 230.18 BB
UTG: 58.95 BB
Hero (MP): 126.64 BB
CO: 29.85 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 8

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 8 6 J
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: (6.5 BB, 2 players) T
BB bets 4.5 BB, Hero calls 4.5 BB

River: (15.5 BB, 2 players) K
BB checks, Hero bets 44 BB


4)PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 184.73 BB
SB: 75.67 BB
BB: 114.8 BB
UTG: 154.76 BB
MP: 45.41 BB
CO: 131.13 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A Q

UTG raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12.5 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 9.5 BB, MP calls 9.5 BB

Flop: (39 BB, 3 players) 5 3 8
UTG checks, MP checks, Hero bets 23.5 BB, UTG calls 23.5 BB, fold

Turn: (86 BB, 2 players) 5
UTG checks, Hero bets 52 BB, UTG calls 52 BB

River: (190 BB, 2 players) K
UTG bets 66.76 BB and is all-in

1) Seems fine depending on what other hands you’re bluffing with
2) Range bet flop, as played fine
3) On river, 25bb should have close to same fold equity.
4) Snap

Results
1) Folded JJ
2) Called A9dd
3) Folded QQhx
4) I called, lost to AJcc.
Since I have a decent amount of higher 1 club combos AcKx, AxKc, AcQx I'm thinking I should probably check flop or turn with the one I have.

H2 and h4 are spew. Don't 3b h4 and cbet flop h2

The spots are okay, but you can optimize better around blockers/unblockers.

Can you give an example for one of the hands?

H2 I'd rather take a check flop bet turn line with something like A2, A3, 8x

H4 I don't ever 3b bluff utg from btn unless I know he's opening wide due to the blinds or if he's extremely abc / exploitable. And I'd much rather do it with a hand like AT, AJ than with AQ. The thing with AQ is it plays so much better as a call for your ranges and EV in single raised pots than in 3b pots against an utg continuing range.

Sure. At first glance bluffing k8hh seemed really bad to me, but actually holding 8h seems fine as you block some straights. The kh blocks some folds though.

The rest look fine I probably read thru too quickly the first pass. The 89 you probably do not need such a large bet to get folds

Thanks. I feel like some boards like this xc, xr lines it’s gonna be hard to not block folds since my turn bluffs are draws

5/10/20

Open hj 60 AJcc, btn reg 3b 225 (3k), i call. Flop 985r x,x. Turn (485) Qhh I bet 275, call. River (1036) Ah I x, bet 575, fold

Hours: 118/400