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Old 03-21-2018, 03:41 PM   #401
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Re: Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

Still playing live. Haven't been able to play the past 3 weekends but plan on making up those hours at some point, prob during the wsop trip
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Old 03-21-2018, 08:11 PM   #402
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Re: Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

Good spots to turn pairs into bluffs?

PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 116.44 BB
BB: 141.86 BB
UTG: 141.42 BB
MP: 97 BB
Hero (CO): 197.26 BB
BTN: 49 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.76 BB, fold, SB raises to 9.28 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.52 BB

Flop: (19.56 BB, 2 players) 9 3 5
SB bets 9.78 BB, Hero calls 9.78 BB

Turn: (39.12 BB, 2 players) 4
SB bets 15.56 BB, Hero calls 15.56 BB

River: (70.24 BB, 2 players) K
SB checks, Hero bets 30.12 BB

Turn feels uncomfortable. Vs his betsize and with my bdfd I think I have to peel. On the river I was thinking I want to put pressure on his one pairs, mainly TT-QQ, maybe 9xs and this is one of the worst hands I get here with.

Thinking about it now, the hands I want to value bet are very strong, basically sets+. Maybe it's a good spot to use a bigger bet size since his range often isn't better than 1 pair when he xs to me.



PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 11.38 BB
SB: 107.38 BB
BB: 50 BB
Hero (UTG): 124.2 BB
MP: 86.02 BB
CO: 151.22 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 9

Hero raises to 2.6 BB, fold, CO raises to 7.2 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 4.6 BB

Flop: (15.9 BB, 2 players) 8 6 2
Hero checks, CO bets 7 BB, Hero calls 7 BB

Turn: (29.9 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (29.9 BB, 2 players) J
Hero checks, CO bets 11 BB, Hero raises to 63.82 BB

On the river I think it makes sense for me to x flushes a decent amount of the time bc it does better than leading against the following parts of his range:
- Jx flop wiffs and over pairs that he can value bet and allow us to pile in more money
- Air balls eg. Ax he decides to b/x/b bluff

As far as bluffs I think my hand is one of the best options. Close to the top of my folding range with a heart. I don't think the heart is too relevant as blocker bc I doubt the IP player is checking back turn w/ a flush too often. It's better than not having one though and just serves as a good way to randomize.

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Old 03-21-2018, 10:31 PM   #403
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Re: Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

88 if you're gonna bluff you need to jam (think you should be bluffing). At the same time if he has AsKx/AxKs, you're getting snapped and his line kinda looks like that to me. Big pairs tend to x turn, not bet, but who knows what this guy is doing.

The 99 looks A+ to me. I also think AhAx tends to snap here. I'd much rather xr a set for thin value against most bad regs and rarely actually bluff (AhXx would be my first choice for bluffs but this 99 makes sense too)
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Old 03-22-2018, 01:30 AM   #404
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Re: Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

Don't think the 88 line gets much in the way of folds. I guess it's X behind and lose almost every time or just jam. Imaging jamming slightly higher EV.
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Old 03-22-2018, 06:56 AM   #405
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Re: Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

88 xb.
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Old 03-23-2018, 01:54 PM   #406
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Re: Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

Hand 1 I can also bluff Asqx, Asjx. He called with Askx

Hand 2 he folded KhKx
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Old 03-23-2018, 02:30 PM   #407
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Re: Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

^lol at folding KhKx, overbluffing vs him is definatly good then
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Old 03-23-2018, 02:51 PM   #408
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Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

I had the same reaction initially but after thinking about it I don't know if I mind his fold. Vs an anonymous player pool auto folding any pure bluff catcher after getting x/bombed on the river as a general rule isn't a bad idea. Regardless of board texture I think this spot at these stakes especially is getting way under bluffed.
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Old 03-23-2018, 03:19 PM   #409
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Fair point (y)
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Old 03-24-2018, 11:41 AM   #410
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Hand 1: Prob overbluffing since AQx and AJx make up 6 bluffing combos on their own. But yeah, small bet doesn't make much sense on this river except for KQ w/ and even that doesn't make much sense since it prob raises turn so jam should be the correct sizing here.

Hand 2: Well played.
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Old 04-01-2018, 09:16 PM   #411
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Re: Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

4 folds

1) PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 111.7 BB
UTG: 63.08 BB
MP: 122.66 BB
Hero (CO): 211.66 BB
BTN: 113.38 BB
SB: 100.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K T

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.76 BB, fold, fold, BB calls 1.76 BB

Flop: (6.02 BB, 2 players) 6 T 5
BB checks, Hero bets 4 BB, BB calls 4 BB

Turn: (14.02 BB, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets 12.02 BB, BB raises to 32.88 BB, Hero calls 20.86 BB

River: (79.78 BB, 2 players) 4
BB bets 72.06 BB and is all-in, fold,

Fold clubs, 4,9? Jam turn an option?


2) PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): 162.54 BB
BTN: 100.5 BB
SB: 87.26 BB
BB: 100.5 BB
UTG: 97.04 BB
MP: 152.78 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 T

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.76 BB, fold, SB raises to 9.28 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.52 BB

Flop: (19.56 BB, 2 players) T J 5
SB checks, Hero bets 7 BB, SB raises to 18 BB, Hero calls 11 BB

Turn: (55.56 BB, 2 players) K
SB bets 27.78 BB, fold,

Thought betting small on the flop gets value/protection from lower pairs/overcards, lets us realize equity for cheap w/ a turn x back. Downside is we can get x/r. On this Turn AK/AQ, other hands improve, my hand drops much lower in my range so I think it's a fold. Tougher spot will be facing a bet on turn blanks.


3) PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 144.92 BB
BB: 102.58 BB
UTG: 90.36 BB
MP: 124.1 BB
CO: 52.34 BB
Hero (BTN): 212.18 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K Q

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9.5 BB, SB calls 9 BB, fold, fold

Flop: (23 BB, 2 players) A 4 Q
SB bets 10 BB, Hero calls 10 BB

Turn: (43 BB, 2 players) T
SB checks, Hero checks

River: (43 BB, 2 players) T
SB bets 18 BB, fold,

Weird line. Call Ax, fold this feels right to me.


4) PokerStars - $0.50 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): 220.94 BB
UTG: 17.26 BB
MP: 164.3 BB
CO: 63.68 BB
BTN: 246.46 BB
SB: 132.58 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 K

UTG calls 1 BB, MP calls 1 BB, fold, fold, SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero checks

Flop: (4 BB, 4 players) K 9 6
SB checks, Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, MP calls 6 BB

Turn: (22 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero bets 16 BB, MP calls 16 BB

River: (54 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero bets 29 BB, MP raises to 138.3 BB and is all-in, fold,

Don't go broke in a limped pot
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Old 04-01-2018, 11:42 PM   #412
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Re: Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

1) it's very close, probably calling IRT but not loving it
2) check flop, folding turn is fine
3) flop call is close, SB should be v strong and the lead into us is weird AF. I agree, call river with Ax, fold the rest.
4) wouldn't JTss open pre? and is it calling a bombed turn when the BDFDs brick? I'm calling river here even though we look super strong.
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Old 04-03-2018, 10:15 AM   #413
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Re: Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

They had...

1) K8cc
2) 66
3) AK
4) JTss
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Old 04-03-2018, 11:54 AM   #414
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Can't tell if you are playing in really tough or really good games... Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

How do you see their hands on stars?
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Old 04-03-2018, 12:02 PM   #415
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They had...

1) K8cc
2) 66
3) AK
4) JTss
lol that 66 hand is glorious

hand 4 is just a tough break, he literally had the one hand possible that takes this line. i still think a call is correct.

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Can't tell if you are playing in really tough or really good games... Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10
seems similar to the spazzing i see in my live games. so, games are pretty good
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Old 04-03-2018, 01:42 PM   #416
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Can't tell if you are playing in really tough or really good games... Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

How do you see their hands on stars?
Not on stars, Ignition hand converter turns it into stars format. You can see all cards after 24 hrs.


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lol that 66 hand is glorious

hand 4 is just a tough break, he literally had the one hand possible that takes this line. i still think a call is correct.



seems similar to the spazzing i see in my live games. so, games are pretty good
Yes itís true he reps few value hands but the more important question is does this spot get bluffed. IMO the answer is no, not even close to enough for a bunch of reasons.
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Old 04-03-2018, 01:48 PM   #417
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Can't tell if you are playing in really tough or really good games... Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

How do you see their hands on stars?
He's playing in the spewfest known as Zone Poker.
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Old 04-03-2018, 06:46 PM   #418
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Not on stars, Ignition hand converter turns it into stars format. You can see all cards after 24 hrs.




Yes itís true he reps few value hands but the more important question is does this spot get bluffed. IMO the answer is no, not even close to enough for a bunch of reasons.
it probably doesn't get bluffed a lot, but he reps zero value outside JTss. players do weird ish and I have little o/l experience so *shrug*
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Old 04-22-2018, 06:20 PM   #419
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Re: Moving up in 2016 - 400 hours at 5/10

Decided to move up since 50z isn't always running and I feel like I got enough experience with 34k hands. Off to an awful start at 200z after a few k hands but I think i'll be ok.

1) PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 88.55 BB
MP: 261.81 BB
CO: 48 BB
BTN: 142.24 BB
Hero (SB): 179 BB
BB: 162.87 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, MP raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 14 BB, fold, MP calls 11 BB

Flop: (29 BB, 2 players) 8 5 3
Hero bets 9.5 BB, MP calls 9.5 BB

Turn: (48 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 27 BB, MP calls 27 BB

River: (102 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 51 BB, MP raises to 211.31 BB and is all-in


2)PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 94.5 BB
BB: 95.48 BB
UTG: 93.15 BB
MP: 97.88 BB
Hero (CO): 199.68 BB
BTN: 100.85 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q A

fold, fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, BTN calls 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 3 players) A 8 2
BB checks, Hero bets 6 BB, BTN calls 6 BB, fold

Turn: (20 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 13 BB, BTN calls 13 BB

River: (46 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 23 BB, BTN raises to 79.35 BB and is all-in

Wondering if the river vb may be too thin


3) PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 663.74 BB
Hero (BTN): 139.4 BB
SB: 130.34 BB
BB: 45.5 BB
UTG: 97.65 BB
MP: 101.48 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 A

fold, fold, CO raises to 3.5 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 7.5 BB

Flop: (23.5 BB, 2 players) 8 3 2
CO checks, Hero bets 8.75 BB, CO calls 8.75 BB

Turn: (41 BB, 2 players) A
CO checks, Hero bets 20.5 BB, CO raises to 53.6 BB


4) PokerStars - $2 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 99 BB
BB: 111.58 BB
UTG: 80.84 BB
Hero (MP): 216.67 BB
CO: 116.6 BB
BTN: 149.98 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

UTG calls 1 BB, Hero raises to 4.5 BB, CO raises to 16 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 11.5 BB

Flop: (34.5 BB, 2 players) Q 2 5
Hero checks, CO bets 20.09 BB, Hero calls 20.09 BB

Turn: (74.67 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, CO bets 48.91 BB,


50z results:


Live hours: 104/400
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Wp at the 50z, since when doesn't that pool run 24/7 btw? All the best for 200!
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Old 04-22-2018, 09:37 PM   #421
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50z has been a thin pool for at least the past 12 months
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Oh, what a pity. :/
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Old 04-23-2018, 07:40 AM   #423
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Wp at the 50z, since when doesn't that pool run 24/7 btw? All the best for 200!


Thanks. Yeah it doesnít run early in the day, even on weekends.
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Old 04-23-2018, 11:54 AM   #424
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QQ - Need reads to make the best decision, but generally, fold.
AQ - It's thin, but thin doesn't mean bad, now fold
a9 - Turbo fold, 3b is also marginal (but not awful). The turn barrel is kinda mergy/but okay. Once you turn tp, it's probably better to xback and try to induce a river bluff.
JJ - Readless a turn fold is probably okay. These 3-bets of isolation raises especially CO/MP tend to be quite a bit stronger than a normal 3b. Exploitatively, I might find a fold earlier.

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Old 04-23-2018, 10:36 PM   #425
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QQ - Need reads to make the best decision, but generally, fold.
AQ - It's thin, but thin doesn't mean bad, now fold
a9 - Turbo fold, 3b is also marginal (but not awful). The turn barrel is kinda mergy/but okay. Once you turn tp, it's probably better to xback and try to induce a river bluff.
JJ - Readless a turn fold is probably okay. These 3-bets of isolation raises especially CO/MP tend to be quite a bit stronger than a normal 3b. Exploitatively, I might find a fold earlier.

can't lose if you fold
Thanks. For the A9 hand I was thinking a lot of his range is mid pairs/8x that I'd want to continue putting pressure on with my suited broadways, etc. so I'd add a middling A to the value range. It's also kinda hard for him to have any river bluffs when we x back. I do see the downside of owning ourselves vs his AT/AJ/AQ bdfd floats (only 3 combos though). What do you do in his spot w/ 78/89/99/TT/JJ (if u have it pre)?

I folded all 4. They had:

1) 77
2) A3dd
3) 23 sooted
4) AA
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