Why do you c-bet hand 1 and not c-bet hand 2? I think 1 is fine either way, but with hand 2, doesn't TT benefit from having J,Q,K's, A(maybe) fold? Both hands are going to have trouble getting 3 streets of value and I think the best way to get 2 streets of value for the second hand is to begin betting the flop.

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So hand 1 I don't mind throwing in a check with AA on occasion vs regs. Board is pretty good for the IP callers range. In this spot vs two fish (likely loose passive) betting big my logic is to just hammer value.

Hand 2 I think a bet small with close to your whole range on this board is an option. TT benefits from protection/value and is also tough to play on high card runouts when we go into x/c mode.

That said, this reg is pretty loose pre and i've seen him show up with wtf type bluffs in spots where its clear hes overbluffing. Therefore in this spot my incentive to bluff catch increases and x/cing I benefit from that stab/go nuts tendency. I could even think about a x/r range for these reasons. But yeah as a default I think cbeting this hand is good.

Vegas Trip-

My original plan for the week was to check out a bunch of the poker rooms on the strip but I ended up just playing at the Bellagio everyday. I did this because 1) I wanted to play 10/20 and 2) they had the largest # of 5/10 games available. Gave 10/20 a chance and in my short experience the game was not good. My table consisted of a few euro pros sitting 25k+ deep, young backpack pros, a solid former main event final tablist, and 1 lone rec player (nitty old man). I could have tested the waters again during the nighttime or other days but the 5/10 seemed pretty good with a lot of selection so that's mainly where I put in hours.

I was also using some GG logic, thinking to myself it would suck to get stuck huge for the trip and have to go back home without access to grind it back at these stakes. Sometimes I need the rational part of my brain to kick in and override ego and fear driven thoughts like " I'm at X stake now, must battle it out regardless and not drop down like a pussy" or the opposite "Can't play higher for just a short period because I might lose a lot and ruin short term yearly results". Must be robot and seek highest hourly ��

Facing river bets when the turn checks through:

1) 5/10

Limps, I raise 50 LJ AcQd we go 4 way

Flop(220) Q46ddx
I cbet 120, btn calls 2k eff.

Turn(460) Jd
x/x

River(460) To
x, btn bets 240

In a vacuum i'd think this is a pretty easy call. No other info other than appearance, which I'd rate a 9/10 on the nit scale.
I think it's unlikely he's finding enough (if any) bluffs in this spot/turning pairs into bluff. On the other hand, folding could be a disaster if he's value betting worse (every combo of KQ and AQ).
Can we let his looks hold any weight in our decision? I happened to see this player make an appearance on dneg's vlog so I'm able to provide a pic:





2) 10/20

Pro opens CO 60, I call bb 77.

Flop(130) JJ2r
I x/c 60

Turn(250) 5o
x/x

River(250) J
x, he bets 260................




Hours: 239/400

Yolo rep them quads baby.

Prolly raising hand 1 as well

pretty sure we must defend 77 here OTR, wouldnt mind explo fold depending on villain.

This did cross my mind, not so much in hand 2 repping quads. Was thinking we still have 6 combos AdQx/KdQx though which i'd think about raising before the Qd


Yeah we "must" defend around 1/2 of our range in theory vs his size. 77 has to be pretty high up since i'd usually get to this spot with every lower pp, some A highs and some rare boats/quads. I'm trying to reconcile this with the idea of b/x/b on static boards tending to be underbluffed in general, and 77 obviously doesn't beat any value hands.

I ended up making nitty folds in both spots. Starting to dislike the second one the more I think about it.

Struggling at 50NL so far, definitely not all due to variance. Probably a combo of tougher competition, tilt/bad play on my part, and paying ~10bb/100 in rake. Personally I find it's easier to tilt online than live, prob because a lot more frustrating things can happen getting hands at such a fast rate.

Across both stakes and 63k total hands i'm at 5ev bb/100, (+10 at nl25 and -5 at nl50). I think I can rebuild at nl50 but gotta tweak some things.

Some hands:

Have to x/f right?



I'm thinking I could've bet river myself



Wait.....wut

Put in some tough spots this weekend. As a default, what's the worst hand you'd call down in the following 2 hands?

1) 5/10 I open 35 utg, CO calls, btn reg 3bets to 200(2k), I call, CO calls.

3 way
Flop (615) 887hhd
x, x, btn cbets 325, I call, CO folds

Turn (1,265) 3c
x, btn jams 1,465

2) 5/10/20 utg+2 opens 60, I 3bet CO 220, sb cold calls (2k), +2 folds

HU
Flop(500) A79 dds
x,x

Turn(500) 6c
sb bets 250, I call

River(1k) Ks
sb bets 1k


Hours: 309/400

I am super mubs when people 3bet my UTG open and it just proves false every time.

I am also super mubs to unknown oop cold callers and it proves true every time.

Yeah the borderline hands in these spots are tough. Any ballpark idea for the bottom of your calling range?

Heh i didnt want to get made fun of bc Ive been getting bashed alot lately on these forums for being a nit but personally Id feel pretty crummy with black queens in hand 1.

I will say I played a VERY similar hand to that about a month ago vs someone i considered good (2/5, but still 200bb deep and same utg, cold call, btn squeeze scenario, paired board flop w/fd). I tilt called QQ and he showed down A5 in the suit. My UTG open range was crazy unbalanced in this spot and he has to know that so Id expect far fewer no Ax/sc/linear 3bets but what can you do gotta mimick them rio vids I guess. Also i get if i nit call QQ then his spew isnt that bad but yea...these guys just force such awful spots for themselves when fish are handing out money hand over fist in my games.

Hand 2 vs an unknown worst hand Im calling is AK and i do not care what 2p2 thinks. If he turns out to have JT or whatever thatll show up soon enough but gen pop tendency here is to be really strong.

I will caveat all of this with Ive forgotten alot of poker knowledge over this past year and soley focused on putting in volume and bet/folding. The only real study Ive put in is trying to figure out why an incredible player limps alot and never 3bets.

What kind of reg in 1), can think of some that I call down with black QQ+ or even JJ+ but then I'm more likely to raise flop too

2) Depends on who SB is, like AxxxK is pretty good for your range and scary for theirs so it's kind of unlikely for them to not slow down with AQ- or bluff by the river. Vs reasonable people I call AK+, maaybe AQ+

H1 if they can shove river with 9Ts maybe JJ but feel better about it with QQ obv. Hand 2 never ever folding AQ on the river because people spack out when you xb flop.

h1) KK, maybe QQ if vilain is spazzy.
h2) AA. T

Frank Kasella

Hand 1 I had black JJ, Hand 2 A2ss.

Mostly playing AK as a cbet and barrel in hand 2 so I'll rarely have it in this spot. More likely to xb AA and almost always KK.



figured this out recently

Weird

My guess is he's marking cards with some type of ink invisible to the naked eye. Does he wear glasses?

Reg in hand 1 is on the conservative side especially when a lot of money gets piled in, which is why I think my call is kind of a punt.

I was thinking along the same lines in hand 2....why are you potting into me a K river? I have more sets now and the bigger size lets me fold more bluff catchers.

Results-

1) called/lost to KK. From a equity vs range perspective the best case scenario (making assumptions about this player) facing overpairs/AKhh/AQhh/A2-5hh i'm still not getting the price to call. Never folding QQ in this spot with the increased chance you're getting jammed on by worse value

2) My plan with the flop xb was call/call on most runouts/sizings. Facing the 1/2 pot turn I planned on calling most rivers vs a similar% sizing. Sb is loose and kind of a wild card. I was thinking when the bet size increases to pot I can start to fold my worst aces if I'm gonna be in the ballpark of defending half my range.

Since I'm a forever station and couldn't bring myself to part with the toppest of pairs, I called and lost to 77

The thing about "why so big" dude all i can say is after putting in so much volume this year I've prolly shaved 24 months off my life that big=nuts. It just does. No point in thinking about ranges or frequencies or leveling or pio or whatever. Even at the limited 10/25 volume ive played.

I think QQh is a pretty clear fold in h1 fwiw

He does not wear glasses but i had the exact same thought as you (not kidding) and i watch him like a hawk. He does not watch/look at cards at all. Fwiw ive been in conversation with a very solid player who studies gto and is significantly more intelligent than me and he has given reasons for many of the lines ive shared with him and overall been quite intrigued about his approach. Very refreshing since everyone else thinks he's a fish and a game with 2%3bet 50%playersseeflop 0%fold2cbet is solved with a one dimensional tag game.

To value bet or not?

LJ reg opens 35, call, I 3b co 160 red KK, LJ 4b 500, I call. 2k eff.

Flop(1,055) QJ7r
x, x

Turn 6s bdfd
x, I bet 400, call

River (1,855) 3s
x,....I have 1,200 behind

I check back, that board smacks a 4b range, no point to bet if AK most likely folds and we can only get called by better.

Are you considering turning KK into a bluff to get AA to fold?

Lol we always have the best hand. Even if you bet something silly like 300-500 is better than not betting. Totally possible v has something like AJ in his 4b range and calls a bet.

Bdfd got there...

What kind of incredible game do you play in where the answer is anything but this?

Seems like a super nitty check with this hand is all. I expect most flush draws to xjam the turn fairly often.