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Originally Posted by Snowball2
Yeah I didn't think kq blocker matters enough here just because it's super rare for them to take this line with kq, and you don't block either combo with the flush draw
I don't think it's that relevant either. Just saying its a way I rationalize so I have a reason to call.
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Originally Posted by Snowball2
I wonder if there's merit to either fold or ship ott (and not being result-oriented). Cuz the pot's already so big with not much behind, and there are so many bad rivers for you. If you don't fold on a T river then I don't know which non-flush river that you are not gunna level yourself into calling. So I wonder if you should just gii knowing he can overplay worse and you are stacking off to a cooler anyway.
With these stacks yes I think it has merit. We benefit a lot by denying equity of his semi bluffs but it's hard for me to wrap my head around jamming where you're not getting worse to call. I still feel like the turn x/r range doesn't have 9x, its boat of bluff.
After seeing how he plays though it's possible he'd just call off with a naked fd or gutter+fd
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Originally Posted by Lapidator
Why shouldn't we think V is shoving 100% of rivers?
Seems standard to not fold anything that beats 1p vs this guy.
pretty big assumption
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Originally Posted by daniel9861
So the advice I'm about to give is going to contradict some things I've said pretty recently. However, I've been reading Will Tipton's books and I completely agree with him on how game theory should be applied and how equilibrium ranges are created.
Equilibrium ranges are found after many cycles of two players trying to maximally exploit each other and both of them constantly adjusting to each other's exploits. Therefore the top priority in our decision making process should look for ways to maximally exploit our opponents. Try to get out of the habit of "calling/folding because we're at x% of our range" and get back into a habit of ranging V's bluffing/value/calling/folding combos based on tendencies and experience and acting accordingly.
I don't disagree. When I don't have a clue about what someone's doing (like here) OTR I like having a ballpark idea my mdf to fall back on .
I actually think my hand is still a fold even if I use that method as a guideline. More importantly it's hard for me to beat much on this river. In theory I'd have to call some 9x but in practice I think it's ok to give them all up just because it's pretty hard for him to be bluffing. I also still have boats and maybe KQhh so I'm not making too much of a leap