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Old 07-03-2020, 07:23 PM   #126
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Re: Moving back to stars

Yeah, 6-8bb/100 are kinda biggest wr at 200nl on stars, with meaningful samples. Those guys also game select a decent chunk.
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Old 07-03-2020, 09:02 PM   #127
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Re: Moving back to stars

Are you talking 6m? iirc tgigs plays FR. 12bb/100 not going to happen in 6max over large sample (500 and above anyways) but 10 might be possible if you game select really well

You’re doing really well if you can beat the games for 6bb/100 over significant sample (300k hands+)
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Old 07-04-2020, 07:15 AM   #128
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Re: Moving back to stars

I doubt a single player has 8bb over a million+ hand sample (and still continues to play) at 200z.

A few probably have 6.5-7 at 500z.

Oladipo on the money for sure but if you actually wanna get in decent volume and not only play 60+ vpip recs, then i imagine 6bb would be a reasonable goal.

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Old 07-04-2020, 09:40 AM   #129
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Re: Moving back to stars

The actual god of 200nlz, Seta Beni, I believe has 7.6 EVbb over 1 million hands.

He doesn't play the best times so would guess that 9evbb probably possible? Worthless discussion though, the goal is never to win at the highest evbb, the goal is to win as much $$ as possible.
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Old 07-04-2020, 12:56 PM   #130
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The actual god of 200nlz, Seta Beni, I believe has 7.6 EVbb over 1 million hands.

He doesn't play the best times so would guess that 9evbb probably possible? Worthless discussion though, the goal is never to win at the highest evbb, the goal is to win as much $$ as possible.
right but if the goal is to win as much $$ as possible then he wouldn't be playing 200z on stars lol, that has to be close to the nut low option
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Old 07-04-2020, 01:01 PM   #131
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right but if the goal is to win as much $$ as possible then he wouldn't be playing 200z on stars lol, that has to be close to the nut low option
probably why he moved to 500z and has a casual 18bb over 95k hands
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Old 07-05-2020, 03:49 AM   #132
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Re: Moving back to stars

looking at statname and quite a lot of people are achieving 9+ at normal tables over 12 months. Could still be too small of a sample though and its just showing those who are running the hottest.


Not the greatest start to the month. A lot of poor/marginal hands played by myself. Also losing a few hundred on PB.



reg. nh sir. pio bets 33 otr with its range which i think i would struggle to implement in game. Guess to do with Q better for him? and AK makes a large portion of our value range otr that it does better 33 otr?
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 5 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $189.00 (95 bb)
CO: $206.00 (103 bb)
BU: $224.81 (112 bb)
SB: $237.30 (119 bb)
BB (Hero): $267.65 (134 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero is BB with 4 A
1 fold, CO raises to $5, 2 players fold, Hero 3-bets to $22, CO calls $17

Flop: ($45) 9 7 K (2 players)
Hero bets $14.11, CO calls $14.11

Turn: ($73.22) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $44, CO calls $44

River: ($161.22) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $187.54 (all-in), CO calls $125.89 (all-in)

Total pot: $413 (Rake: $2.75)

Showdown:
BB (Hero) shows 4 A (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 64%, Turn: 77%, River: 0%)

CO shows J Q (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 45%, Flop: 36%, Turn: 23%, River: 100%)

CO wins $410.25


lol river jam. massively overbluffing with a hand which wins a decent amount of chips at sd

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $218.03 (109 bb)
MP: $243.18 (122 bb)
CO: $200.00 (100 bb)
BU: $384.81 (192 bb)
SB (Hero): $200.00 (100 bb)
BB: $260.33 (130 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero is SB with J A
2 players fold, CO raises to $5, 1 fold, Hero 3-bets to $22, 1 fold, CO calls $17

Flop: ($46) 3 4 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, CO checks

Turn: ($46) 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $56, CO calls $56

River: ($158) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $122 (all-in), CO calls $122 (all-in)

Total pot: $402 (Rake: $2.75)

Showdown:
SB (Hero) shows J A (two pair, Fives and Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 20%, Turn: 14%, River: 0%)

CO shows 6 6 (two pair, Sixes and Fives)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 80%, Turn: 86%, River: 100%)

CO wins $399.25


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.50/$1.00 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $129.55 (130 bb)
MP: $94.18 (94 bb)
CO: $211.94 (212 bb)
BU: $86.32 (86 bb)
SB (Hero): $100.00 (100 bb)
BB: $107.57 (108 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with 9 T
UTG raises to $2, MP 3-bets to $3.33, 2 players fold, Hero calls $2.83, 1 fold, UTG calls $1.33

Flop: ($10.99) 3 3 9 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks, MP bets $6.25, Hero calls $6.25, UTG raises to $24, MP folds, Hero calls $17.75

Turn: ($65.24) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $11, UTG raises to $26, Hero calls $15

River: ($117.24) K (2 players)
Hero bets $46.67 (all-in), UTG calls $46.67

Total pot: $210.58 (Rake: $2.50)

Showdown:
SB (Hero) shows 9 T (a full house, Nines full of Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 56%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

UTG shows 5 A (two pair, Nines and Threes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 44%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

SB (Hero) wins $208.08


probably should do smething different on other streets. Could be fold on river being lil deeper. Seems close.
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.50/$1.00 - 5 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $170.01 (170 bb)
CO (Hero): $123.11 (123 bb)
BU: $35.50 (36 bb)
SB: $111.27 (111 bb)
BB: $100.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50) Hero is CO with Q A
UTG raises to $2.40, Hero 3-bets to $8.50, 3 players fold, UTG calls $6.10

Flop: ($18.50) 3 K Q (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $4.57, UTG raises to $15, Hero calls $10.43

Turn: ($48.50) 7 (2 players)
UTG bets $37.50, Hero calls $37.50

River: ($123.50) T (2 players)
UTG bets $109.01 (all-in), Hero calls $62.11 (all-in)

Total pot: $247.72 (Rake: $2.50)

Showdown:
UTG shows Q K (two pair, Kings and Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 29%, Flop: 86%, Turn: 93%, River: 100%)

CO (Hero) shows Q A (a pair of Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 71%, Flop: 14%, Turn: 7%, River: 0%)

UTG wins $245.22



Did not expect to see a FH.
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.50/$1.00 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $113.76 (114 bb)
MP: $143.36 (143 bb)
CO: $89.00 (89 bb)
BU (Hero): $159.69 (160 bb)
SB: $131.30 (131 bb)
BB: $100.89 (101 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50) Hero is BTN with K Q
3 players fold, Hero raises to $2, 1 fold, BB calls $1

Flop: ($4.50) A J 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.11, BB calls $1.11

Turn: ($6.72) 3 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10.21, BB calls $10.21

River: ($27.14) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $12.89, Hero raises to $103.50, BB calls $74.68 (all-in)

Total pot: $202.28 (Rake: $2.50)

Showdown:
BU (Hero) shows K Q (a pair of Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 43%, Flop: 19%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

BB shows 7 A (a full house, Sevens full of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 57%, Flop: 81%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)

BB wins $199.78



slight tilt before this hand. I never usually 3b pot ip. reg. . maybe different size otr.
PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $205.45 (103 bb)
MP: $203.00 (102 bb)
CO: $200.00 (100 bb)
BU (Hero): $200.00 (100 bb)
SB: $395.25 (198 bb)
BB: $224.75 (112 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero is BTN with 6 A
3 players fold, Hero raises to $4, 1 fold, BB calls $2

Flop: ($9) 7 8 7 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $2.22, BB raises to $8.84, Hero raises to $28, BB calls $19.16

Turn: ($65) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $31.75, BB calls $31.75

River: ($128.50) 6 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $136.25 (all-in), BB calls $136.25

Total pot: $401 (Rake: $2.75)

Showdown:
BU (Hero) shows 6 A (two pair, Sevens and Sixes)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 60%, Flop: 4%, Turn: 9%, River: 0%)

BB shows 7 T (a straight, Six to Ten)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 40%, Flop: 96%, Turn: 91%, River: 100%)

BB wins $398.25

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Old 07-05-2020, 02:00 PM   #133
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Re: Moving back to stars

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right but if the goal is to win as much $$ as possible then he wouldn't be playing 200z on stars lol, that has to be close to the nut low option
LUL

https://gyazo.com/1ee5f3d349fdcc525466f5116c878ab4

https://gyazo.com/b6fb4a02099e1bdba3f44154e5188223

best reg in 200z pool sometime breakeven month. https://gyazo.com/9bcec733b1e183d8b93bb32fcace1bb0

also wtf 18bb/100 500z 100K hands :O.

also anyone know how many tables join 200z/500z pool sametime ? only info he is get 600hands/h play 5 hours day 2/2 or 3/1 200z/500z maybe.

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Old 07-06-2020, 03:45 AM   #134
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Re: Moving back to stars

pretty frustrating start. -24bi in 8k hands. might just play 100nl only for a bit. annoying that i was winning comfortably at 500 2 months ago and now im grinding 100nl only again.

load a session up -> get stacked within first 50 hands -> quit session. x15

still confused if i should apply for a cfp program. always in my mind at times like these when i downswing and dont really have anyone to talk to in poker world to see if im punting.

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Old 07-06-2020, 09:13 AM   #135
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Re: Moving back to stars

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LUL

also anyone know how many tables join 200z/500z pool sametime ? only info he is get 600hands/h play 5 hours day 2/2 or 3/1 200z/500z maybe.
I think someone asked this (and he answered) on his RIO pgc thread. You may check it there .

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Old 07-10-2020, 12:30 PM   #136
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Re: Moving back to stars

getting slapped around on stars. even at 100nl. Feeling a bit lost. Everyone is insanely good now and just owning me in every spot. Feel like ive just confused myself to be a loser by using pio as dumb as that sounds.

Might have to change table theme or colour. Might run good if i do that.
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Old 07-10-2020, 12:55 PM   #137
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Rough stretch man. Best of luck.
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Old 07-10-2020, 05:27 PM   #138
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probably why he moved to 500z and has a casual 18bb over 95k hands
Hello, seta beni haha

I played a decent amount vs him and used to think he was among the best 200z regs at that time, together with jungleroars and obv sowiet wings/clanty/alltoonew (kinda disappointing, guy is so good but manages to make the most boring RIO vids -.-)

It's funny that at the time I was in a study skype group and people said he was a 2bb winner for being too spewy and a weak reg, good to see he is doing well.
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Old 07-10-2020, 06:36 PM   #139
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Seta Beni wins the most because he exploits recs & weak regs to the max by doing a lot of 0% stuff rather than trying to play a balanced strategy, in weak pools it’s always the best approach. It will be profitable for as long as people continue to play bad, so, yep, it will be profitable forever. Also keep in mind that even in that million hand graph, the best 200z graph there is, he still snuck in a 100k BE stretch.

^ ^ sounds like you’re not playing with confidence and/or putting too much weight on small samples, what do your last 100k hands look like, and how do you feel you are playing right now? If you are playing well and winning, then just keep putting in good volume, it will turn around.

Everyone struggles in poker, and some (most?) go through periods where they aren’t even beating their pool, or are winning for very little.

If you’re not winning/playing good, find out what’s stopping you, and address it.

We’re never “stuck” in poker, remember that. Too many people give up when it gets hard. There are tons of resources available to those willing to work for it, just gotta keep your head screwed on straight. I’ve told myself the same sh*t you’re telling yourself rn, 100% of the time I end up coming out of it and find out I was just lying to myself, and was only playing worse because of it.

And LOL at saying everyone is insanely good at 100nl, **** please. You are telling yourself lies because of a small sample of running bad/playing bad.

You’re a good poker player and will do fine, you just need to be confident and positive in times like this.

GL

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Old 07-10-2020, 06:44 PM   #140
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Lmao
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Old 07-19-2020, 04:55 AM   #141
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Re: Moving back to stars

yeh im a little ***** when downswinging. do think a lot of people really solid nowadays. And dont really know where my edge is fully against them. switched over to hem to track PB.

stars: congrats to zavantory for taking like 8bis from me this month I think




PB: Missing the original 10bi downswing before i switched to hem




so i got out of the 36bi downswing


PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.50/$1.00 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $245.79 (246 bb)
MP: $173.34 (173 bb)
CO: $104.73 (105 bb)
BU: $100.00 (100 bb)
SB (Hero): $120.10 (120 bb)
BB: $298.99 (299 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with AMoving back to stars JMoving back to stars
3 players fold, BTN raises to $2.70, Hero 3-bets to $11, 1 fold, BTN calls $8.30

Flop: ($23) 2Moving back to stars 6Moving back to stars TMoving back to stars (2 players)
Hero bets $23.50, BTN calls $23.50

Turn: ($70) KMoving back to stars (2 players)
Hero bets $67.50, BTN calls $65.50 (all-in)

First River: ($201) 7Moving back to stars (2 players, 1 all-in)

Second River: ($201) 9Moving back to stars (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $201 (Rake: $2.50)

First Showdown: Board: 2Moving back to stars 6Moving back to stars TMoving back to stars KMoving back to stars 7Moving back to stars

SB (Hero) shows AMoving back to stars JMoving back to stars (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 59%, Flop: 26%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%)

BU shows TMoving back to stars 9Moving back to stars (a pair of Tens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 41%, Flop: 74%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%)

BU wins $99.25

Second Showdown: Board: 2Moving back to stars 6Moving back to stars TMoving back to stars KMoving back to stars 9Moving back to stars

SB (Hero) shows AMoving back to stars JMoving back to stars (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 59%, Flop: 26%, Turn: 16%, River: 0%)

BU shows TMoving back to stars 9Moving back to stars (two pair, Tens and Nines)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 41%, Flop: 74%, Turn: 84%, River: 100%)

BU wins $99.25




What does it mean when pio has something as a jam a good %, but it also has that its -ev to jam? Does it mean it likely raises at some different size?

PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $0.50/$1.00 - 5 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG (Hero): $187.34 (187 bb)
CO: $119.50 (120 bb)
BU: $72.26 (72 bb)
SB: $103.54 (104 bb)
BB: $100.00 (100 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50) Hero is UTG with KMoving back to stars AMoving back to stars
Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, BTN calls $2.50, SB 3-bets to $13, 1 fold, Hero calls $10.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($29.50) TMoving back to stars AMoving back to stars 7Moving back to stars (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($29.50) 4Moving back to stars (2 players)
SB bets $9, Hero calls $9

River: ($47.50) AMoving back to stars (2 players)
SB bets $13, Hero raises to $165.34 (all-in), SB calls $68.54 (all-in)

Total pot: $210.58 (Rake: $2.50)

Showdown:
UTG (Hero) shows KMoving back to stars AMoving back to stars (three of a kind, Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 74%, Flop: 54%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

SB shows KMoving back to stars QMoving back to stars (a flush, Ace high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 26%, Flop: 46%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

SB wins $208.08





PokerStars Zoom, Hold'em No Limit - $0.50/$1.00 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $117.64 (118 bb)
MP: $107.68 (108 bb)
CO: $250.79 (251 bb)
BU: $133.71 (134 bb)
SB (Hero): $133.37 (133 bb)
BB: $31.23 (31 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($1.50) Hero is SB with KMoving back to stars 9Moving back to stars
3 players fold, BTN raises to $2.16, Hero 3-bets to $11, 1 fold, BTN calls $8.84

Flop: ($23) 9Moving back to stars JMoving back to stars TMoving back to stars (2 players)
Hero bets $11.14, BTN calls $11.14

Turn: ($45.28) 6Moving back to stars (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: ($45.28) 7Moving back to stars (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $18.34, Hero raises to $98.04, BU folds

Total pot: $81.96 (Rake: $2.50)
SB (Hero) wins $79.46





PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $200.00 (100 bb)
MP: $71.19 (36 bb)
CO: $315.19 (158 bb)
BU: $234.70 (117 bb)
SB: $200.00 (100 bb)
BB (Hero): $206.57 (103 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero is BB with 9Moving back to stars 8Moving back to stars
4 players fold, SB raises to $6, Hero 3-bets to $20, SB calls $14

Flop: ($40) 5Moving back to stars QMoving back to stars 6Moving back to stars (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $19, SB calls $19

Turn: ($78) 2Moving back to stars (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($78) KMoving back to stars (2 players)
SB bets $161 (all-in), Hero calls $161

Total pot: $400 (Rake: $2.75)

Showdown:
SB shows KMoving back to stars QMoving back to stars (two pair, Kings and Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 62%, Flop: 77%, Turn: 73%, River: 0%)

BB (Hero) shows 9Moving back to stars 8Moving back to stars (a flush, King high)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 38%, Flop: 23%, Turn: 27%, River: 100%)

BB (Hero) wins $397.25






PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 4 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $200.00 (100 bb)
BU (Hero): $203.50 (102 bb)
SB: $78.00 (39 bb)
BB: $203.00 (102 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero is BTN with 7Moving back to stars 7Moving back to stars
UTG raises to $5, Hero 3-bets to $17, 2 players fold, UTG 4-bets to $46, Hero calls $29

Flop: ($95) 4Moving back to stars AMoving back to stars 6Moving back to stars (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($95) QMoving back to stars (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $30.94, UTG calls $30.94

River: ($156.88) TMoving back to stars (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $126.56 (all-in), UTG calls $123.06 (all-in)

Total pot: $403 (Rake: $1.25)

Showdown:
BU (Hero) shows 7Moving back to stars 7Moving back to stars (a pair of Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 12%, Turn: 5%, River: 0%)

UTG shows JMoving back to stars AMoving back to stars (a pair of Aces)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 45%, Flop: 88%, Turn: 95%, River: 100%)

UTG wins $401.75

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Old 07-19-2020, 01:10 PM   #142
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It means its a -ev play but the best he can find to balance every play that needs to be done to not be exploited (Wich is how pio/solver works) .
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Old 07-19-2020, 10:03 PM   #143
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It means its a -ev play but the best he can find to balance every play that needs to be done to not be exploited (Wich is how pio/solver works) .
Nice level
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Old 07-20-2020, 03:19 AM   #144
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If something is mixed in equilibrium then by definition both options have the exact same ev. Solvers mixing in -ev plays is just because it's not solved to 0%.
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Old 07-20-2020, 03:22 AM   #145
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ok thx. guess i need to let solver run longer then. takes so long. usually let it go to 0.7%ish
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Old 07-20-2020, 03:31 AM   #146
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It's still gonna occur at lower %. You can actually calculate how exploitable the solution is by summing up how much more ev one side would make if you locked the other side and let it choose the slightly higher ev option in every spot. So if it's exploitable for anything >0% you're going to see these small ev 'errors'. It's generally not something to worry about as long as you understand that the ev of the true solution for two mixed options is exactly the same (regardless of the frequency that it's mixing). There might be some stuff like really low frequency bluffs that become 0% frequency bluffs if you let it run longer, but you can just deal with those situations when they arise if you really need to or actually care enough. If something is mixing a considerable % at 1% then it's not gonna change much as you let it run longer.
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Old 07-20-2020, 07:18 AM   #147
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Old 07-30-2020, 07:41 AM   #148
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Well this month was very underwhelming. Downswing made me try to play too many tables at times. Will go back to my 4 normal stars tables + 2-3 other site normal tables.

PB: Missing original 10bi downswing at the beginning. Maybe made close to 1k$ rakeback? so $ total will be similar. Looks like theyre trying to move people off emulators so will likely have to find a new site to play on.







Stars: Probably the worst ive played since i started this blog. Must do better. Called too many rivers. Feel i ran bad for most part. Didnt deserve to win though. Regs just crushed me 3-5handed. Too far away from servers to click into games though if i want to take a break from battling Russians or bitb crew.






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PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $214.45 (107 bb)
MP: $207.90 (104 bb)
CO (Hero): $233.14 (117 bb)
BU: $200.00 (100 bb)
SB: $194.40 (97 bb)
BB: $424.19 (212 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero is CO with A 9
2 players fold, Hero raises to $5, 1 fold, SB calls $4, 1 fold

Flop: ($12) Q J T (2 players)
SB bets $6, Hero raises to $24, SB calls $18

Turn: ($60) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $38, Hero calls $38

River: ($136) 7 (2 players)
SB bets $30, Hero raises to $166.14 (all-in), SB calls $97.40 (all-in)

Total pot: $390.80 (Rake: $2.75)

Showdown:
CO (Hero) shows A 9 (a pair of Sevens - higher kicker)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 65%, Flop: 67%, Turn: 80%, River: 100%)

SB shows K 2 (a pair of Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 35%, Flop: 33%, Turn: 20%, River: 0%)

CO (Hero) wins $388.05




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PokerStars, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 6 players
Replay this hand on Upswing Poker

UTG: $205.40 (103 bb)
MP: $205.59 (103 bb)
CO: $200.00 (100 bb)
BU: $200.00 (100 bb)
SB (Hero): $201.00 (101 bb)
BB: $128.64 (64 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero is SB with 8 8
3 players fold, BTN raises to $5, Hero 3-bets to $22, 1 fold, BTN 4-bets to $48, Hero calls $26

Flop: ($98) 6 A 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $23, Hero calls $23

Turn: ($144) J (2 players)
Hero bets $20, BTN calls $20

River: ($184) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $110 (all-in), BTN calls $109 (all-in)

Total pot: $402 (Rake: $2.75)

Showdown:
SB (Hero) shows 8 8 (three of a kind, Eights)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 54%, Flop: 97%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

BU shows J Q (a pair of Jacks)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 46%, Flop: 3%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

SB (Hero) wins $399.25

A bunch of spew river calls which i dont want to show


Goals for next month: Anything better than this ****. And enjoy my birthday.

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Old 07-30-2020, 02:28 PM   #149
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K2 had me loling. Reasoning for turn lead with 88?
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Old 07-30-2020, 02:37 PM   #150
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Are you sure you're playing as bad as you think? It seems wild to have such swings in performance quality. Sincere reflection when losing is really important, especially in the world of Poker.

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