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08-14-2016 , 09:42 PM
In one week I'll be depositing $350+ on to America's Card Room and playing the micro stakes.

I'm also staking someone $30 to play.

I'll play no higher than 5NL and mostly 2NL to start. Then in another two weeks loading $150+ and possibly moving up to 10NL.

In preparation to this I'll be watching one poker video a day and reading some Super System 2.

If you have any advice for me it would be appreciated. I usually tilt and move up to higher stakes, which is a huge leak of mine, but I'm planning on posting here every day to keep myself focused on my goals.
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08-14-2016 , 11:57 PM
Staking someone for 30$? Is the homeless guy in front of mc Donald's?

Lel jk

Good luck!
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08-15-2016 , 01:27 AM
Nah. Someone I met on Bovada that's pretty good at cash games.

And thank you.
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08-15-2016 , 04:37 AM
Just made a $10 prop-bet that I can quit smoking for 2 months+
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08-15-2016 , 07:25 AM
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Originally Posted by knowsbleeds
Just made a $10 prop-bet that I can quit smoking for 2 months+
Should've made it like $1k to give yourself more incentive lol. If you had the will power to stop for effectively nothing, wouldn't you have done so already? Gl with your challenge. Regarding the tilt issue, can you not limit the stakes you can play on AC? Another trick is to set yourself a stop loss. So if you lose 2 BI's in any session then you take an hour break. Stop your emotions boiling over in any given session and gives you a chance to review hands in between and make sure you're not playing poorly.
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08-15-2016 , 01:19 PM
How good is he at cash if you're having to stake him $30?

orrrrrrrr

if you don't "have to"


why is he selling himself so cheap?
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08-15-2016 , 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Circlezero
How good is he at cash if you're having to stake him $30?

orrrrrrrr

if you don't "have to"


why is he selling himself so cheap?
Maybe he just needs $30, you know, for bills and stuff.
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08-15-2016 , 04:21 PM
GL, your going to need it. ACR is full of regs in cash games. Even $2nl. I mean they're not great players by no means, but don't expect to be sitting with 3 fish. There might be 1 if your lucky.

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08-15-2016 , 06:41 PM
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Originally Posted by flawz01
Should've made it like $1k to give yourself more incentive lol. If you had the will power to stop for effectively nothing, wouldn't you have done so already? Gl with your challenge. Regarding the tilt issue, can you not limit the stakes you can play on AC? Another trick is to set yourself a stop loss. So if you lose 2 BI's in any session then you take an hour break. Stop your emotions boiling over in any given session and gives you a chance to review hands in between and make sure you're not playing poorly.
I'm not sure how to limit the stakes I can play. I'll have to look in to that. The stop loss thing sounds good because whenever I get sucked out on for a buy-in or two I get really tilted. When that happens I should stop and review my hands like you said.

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Originally Posted by thegibson
GL, your going to need it. ACR is full of regs in cash games. Even $2nl. I mean they're not great players by no means, but don't expect to be sitting with 3 fish. There might be 1 if your lucky.
I've already played 2NL there and I noticed a lot of regs. It was rare but I did find a fish or two sometimes.

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Originally Posted by Circlezero
How good is he at cash if you're having to stake him $30?
He's good. He has his hand ranges down, which is more to say than me. I saw him crush 2NL for $12 the other day. He's only 19 and in college so money is tight for him. That's why I'm sending the $30. And $15 every time I deposit to help him build a roll. I'm not even asking for any profit but he has kept me in action by sending me a little at a time when I went broke.


Update for today:

Watched two videos that were over 20 minutes long. One was a concept on rock-paper-scissors and had to do with balance. The other one was how to exploit different player types at the tables. They both tied in to each other and I think that I learned something but only time will tell.

The last video I watched on 3-betting inspired me to 5-bet bluff a nit with 10-9 off suit. The nit had KK of course. So I obviously I jumped the gun there.
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08-15-2016 , 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Notabot
In b4 op beats Polk to $10k
I'm actually rooting for Polk.
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08-15-2016 , 07:57 PM
I'm rooting for someone to eat a hat

Spoiler:
gl op, hope the stakee buys you loads of cheeseburgers
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08-15-2016 , 08:07 PM
Fear

Sometimes I fear that I'm not as good as I think I am. Even though I make really good reads, I seldom follow through with them. It's like I just "have to see it" to confirm what I already know. That's costing me a lot of money.

I should celebrate the unknown. Let them bluff me if it's a bluff!

Also I always feel like I'm running out of time. Like I need to make it in poker RIGHT NOW and risk my bankroll for it. The urgency is unreal. As nice as it would be to be able to pay my bills with poker, it's just not going to happen right away, or maybe ever.

I have no idea if I will make it or not, but I'm certainly going to try.

Background:

I'm 28 years old, live at home, and am unemployed. I had a full-time job but got laid off a few months ago because there wasn't enough work. I get $400 every two weeks and have $220 that goes to rent. The rest I'm going to use to build a bankroll. Not sure if this is irresponsible or not. I have no other use for the money at this time.

I don't drink, and I just quit smoking (with the grace of God), and I don't have a GF at this time.

One of my friends says the money I play for in the micro's is "make believe" and I should get a job. Oh how I would love to crush 25NL someday and make more than his $12 p/h job. That's going to take a lot of work though.

I love poker and I really want to improve. My strength is my hand reading, my weakness is my bankroll management. I'm sure I'm not the only one that struggles with bankroll but it's been over ten years and I'm sick of my bad habits.

Goal:

Deposit $350, play 2NL-5NL for two weeks, deposit another $150, move up to 10NL for two weeks, deposit $350, play 25NL.

The end goal is to get me to 25NL in a couple months time. Hopefully by sticking to my BRM I'll have the skills to do well there. I am honestly scared as the level of play in 25NL must be crazy good right now. I heard it gets pretty "technical" the higher up you go.

Last edited by knowsbleeds; 08-15-2016 at 08:29 PM.
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08-16-2016 , 11:20 PM
So to complete my goal of watching one video a day I watched two videos on Hand Reading. One was 11 minutes long, the other was 57 minutes long.

Key concepts from Ed Miller's hand reading
Don't assume everyone plays like you do
Don't assume everyone knows what you have
Bets don't necessarily mean much, but raises do
Donk bets are fishy and usually mean weak hands


I found the 2nd video interesting. A lot of the examples I got right when he asked "so what would you do?" It seemed to be geared more towards limit hold em' than no limit.

The first video was about a live NL hand with $1,000+ stacks. I understood the concept but I shouldn't be applying it to the micros.
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08-17-2016 , 01:35 PM
Youre better off getting some work and building a roll with a reliable steady income.

There is too much opportunity out there for you NOT to be able to get a job.

IMO - Grinding off $350 with no set back, living broke, has got to be misery. Especially if you're running bad.

Good luck to ya.
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08-17-2016 , 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by SteamR0LLA
Youre better off getting some work and building a roll with a reliable steady income.

There is too much opportunity out there for you NOT to be able to get a job.

IMO - Grinding off $350 with no set back, living broke, has got to be misery. Especially if you're running bad.

Good luck to ya.
I'm use to being broke. Misery is not being able to play poker. I'll take the run bad.

If in three months time I'm not getting anywhere with poker I'll look for work.
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08-18-2016 , 01:25 AM
Downloaded poker multi-gym app on my phone. Seems to be geared more towards limit poker than NL. That's okay though, it's helping with my cravings to play.

New goal:

Go through 500 hands a day on poker multi-gym.
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08-18-2016 , 05:58 PM
Got in my 500 hands last night after midnight.

Watched a video about the mental game.

I found out there's a bunch of different versions of tilt. Including desperation tilt which causes you to jump up in stakes. So I think that's exactly what I have. I'll have a few bad beats and want to get that money back so I'll jump up higher. I think setting a stop loss is necessary in order to prevent this.

I think I also have some revenge tilt issues as I want to get back at the donk who called with 4-2os and hit a miracle on me to crack my aces. Even though I've been that same donk before!

Update:

I have a good feeling about this time around and I'm excited to play on Monday. I'm on track with watching at least (1) videos a day and practicing hands on my poker app. I've also been reading a little bit of super system 2. I never realized that it's over 8 years old. I've been playing poker for a long time.
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08-19-2016 , 01:29 AM
I'm thinking about getting Poker Tracker 4 instead of loading all $350.
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08-19-2016 , 06:33 PM
After talking it over with a friend I've decided to go with HM2 for a HUD. It's going to be about $60. So I'll have around ~$290.00 to play with which is enough for both 2NL and 5NL respectively.

New goals:
Reach $325.00 in two weeks
Play only 2NL-5NL
Post HH's in this thread
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08-20-2016 , 06:31 PM
New learning goal:

Start a study group. (If interested PM me or respond in this thread.) I use Skype.
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08-21-2016 , 01:14 AM
ummm where to start.


1. i think you're giving 10nl and 25nl regs to much credit, they aren't that good, and you'll run into a ton of nits and that's about it. Learn to steal and fold, and u'll make money at 10nl and 25nl on ACR.


2. you are way way over rolled for 2nl 6max. 2nl is a joke any way and is the hardest limit a new player will have to beat, because its pennies and no one cares and no one folds, 2nl will just teach u bad habbits. skip 2nl move to 5nl for a few weeks and if u beat it a $300 roll is plenty for 10nl.

3. Stop loss is a must for new players, when I was grinding up my roll from the get go and had tilt issues I used a 5bi stop loss because i was over rolled like you are. if you got 30 bis use a 3 bi stoploss. there isnt a set limit to how long stop loss needs to b it just depends on the individual and how long the tilt will effect your game.

4. I'd highly suggest not to deposit to move up limits. I know you're in a hurry to crush 25nl, but from what i hear you are still a very very green and new player, I'd take my time and grind my way up the limits.

5. HM2 PT4 thats just ur preference, they both have a free trial period try them both buy wat u like. BUT MOST IMPORTANT. Spend a good amount of time learning how to properly use a HUD otherwise it's a waste of money and not knowing how to use the information on it can actually make u make bad plays and loose money.

6. I didn't hear u say anthying about it but make sure you are set up for rakeback on ACR, makes it easier to beat the micro stakes for sure.

7.Consider buying coaching programs or get a coach who is experienced in helping micro stake players get up and off the ground and get going. It will cost money, but a good coach is worth way more than any amount they charge. Trust me.

8. im gonna warn you a lot of advice on 2p2 is bull**** by people who aren't winning players.

9. Play, studying is great to an extent, but my old coach taught me that for every range change, or new line, or anything new you add to you game takes about 10k hands min to take effect and for you to have an idea if its even working and if you're doing it right.

10.I suffered from a lot of tilt before and it cost me a lot of money, in 6max in in about 21% of my hands i play over a big sample, as a winning player. As a loosing player I was winning about 21% of the hands I played...... I suffered from the prove it tilt, and paid people off with the nuts all the time trying to bluff catch because I didn't believe them or my reads. Took a lot of work to stop it but when I did my graph became much easier to look at.

11. the most important by far, make sure you remain in love with the game, and good luck!
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