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05-24-2021 , 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Thommehh
44 check back turn, as played for to raise, wouldn't raise flop
Why do you think raising flop or betting turn is bad? Is my hand really medium strength?
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05-24-2021 , 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by wannabe2700
Why do you think raising flop or betting turn is bad? Is my hand really medium strength?
You are against someone who 3b preflop, he can have all the overpairs, just try to get to the showdown as cheaply as possible, even when you do hit your hand you won't get much value and also have to watch out. When you hit a set he could have a straight, if an ace falls his pocket pairs won't pay you off, when you hit a 6 you might get a tiny bit of value

Why play 25nl when you're not doing great at 10nl yet? Keep watching youtube videos, study preflop ranges etc
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05-25-2021 , 05:28 PM
May, NL 10 zoom, 16154 hands, 42.86 usd net won, 2.7 bb/100, -0.5 EV bb/100

The battle over ev continues. It seems stars has some leaderboard prizes for getting lucky in 300 hands for every stake. Maybe I will play NL 5 and NL 16 too.



Shitty spot. utg was 17 something over 40 hands. Really didn't want to get it in preflop this deep. I have a feeling it would be ok to exploitably fold river.




Ship it holla. Maybe calling is better as it's not clear if he would raise a straight.
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05-25-2021 , 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Thommehh
You are against someone who 3b preflop, he can have all the overpairs, just try to get to the showdown as cheaply as possible, even when you do hit your hand you won't get much value and also have to watch out. When you hit a set he could have a straight, if an ace falls his pocket pairs won't pay you off, when you hit a 6 you might get a tiny bit of value

Why play 25nl when you're not doing great at 10nl yet? Keep watching youtube videos, study preflop ranges etc
Because he has so many overpairs is exactly the reason I want to play my hand aggressively. But maybe it does have enough showdown value to just check it down.

Zoom is just pretty tough. Regular tables are much easier. I am playing NL 25 because I got my bankroll up there. I haven't shown results because I don't have any other data to show. And I have to say the level isn't much different to NL 10.
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05-26-2021 , 08:26 AM
Good luck!
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05-26-2021 , 10:08 PM
I have been playing 3 different stakes on stars trying to get those lucky leaderpoint prizes. Seems like you can get a dollar or two a day. Too bad only 20 places are paid in NL 16.

I have said multiple times regular tables are much easier than zoom tables. I have come to change my mind a little bit about this. I think it matters more what day and what time of the day you play than what format you choose. I have had lots of lots of success in regular tables precisely because I play when my opponents are most tired.

One rule I have heard how to handle limpers is to open like you were in a position one seat behind you. It works pretty well. But there exists a strange breed of players who limp and play tight. Against these you have to play tighter or you can limp too.




I couldn't find any interesting hands. This hand is quite funny. He pretty much milked the maximum out of me. If we bet anything more postflop, I would have folded. The only flaw was he could have gotten a bit more by 3betting 2-3x.
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05-26-2021 , 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RoadtoPro
Good luck!
Thanks for blessing my future variance. The same wishes to you too.
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05-27-2021 , 12:38 PM
Oo yeah NL5, NL10, NL16 all in the green in stars this month. Only 18k hands though...
I also got my losses back in unibet. Some guy completely tilted and didn't fold any hand, and he kept reloading. Reminded of my younger self. He calmed down after he went all-in preflop and beat my A4 with some Qx crap. Maybe I should have waited for a better hand. Anyway 1k roll baby. I could take one buy-in shot at NL 50, but I'm not sure if I can handle losing it yet. I will think about it.




I was sick of losing to two pair and sets in these kinds of situations, so I just folded. I talked to my new poker buddy, and he said villain could have lots of flushes here. And now I do mostly agree. He's much more likely to coldcall 88-JJ than 66. QQ is possible but only 3 combos remain. I wish I went all-in on turn just so I could know what he had there.




I don't know what do on river. I am assuming what I did was standard.




Just randomly thought I would be checking Tx on turn and needed to balance it with some Ax. River is just one of those shitty spots. Is anyone really ever bluffing? I comforted myself with the fact that I'm blocking a straight.




Booom revenge. Very similar situation, except the ranges are more capped. It's hard for me to come up with natural bluffs. I would probably check QQ on turn, and if I did bluff it then AQ would be blocking my bluff. Did he check where I'm from and based on that called?
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05-27-2021 , 06:25 PM
KJ played fine, you could be ahead some times but I think you're behind most of the times
AQcc I would check/fold or bet like 2.5-3$ and fold to a jam, you're targetting AJ and not much else
AQhh also check/fold, AJ/AT/KQ got there, if he had like KJ/QJ/QT/JT with or without clubs he wouldn't bluff most likely, tiny chance that he's bluffing with a lower hand like 78cc but there are way more value hands in his range if he's shoving imo, also in general people underbluff especially for these sizings so pretty easy check/fold imo

I think you should work more on improving first before thinking of moving up or taking a shot, keep watching youtube videos because you definately need to improve your hand/board/range reading as I've seen in the 2 AQ hands
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05-28-2021 , 01:50 PM
I took a shot and lost it by bluffing a fish. Very unnecessary. What's even worse is that I reloaded. But the biggest mistake was that I didn't plan for this beforehand. For future shots:

Do shots every 2 buy-ins you increase your bankroll. So next time I will try at 22 buy-ins.
1) Normally just one buy-in shot
2) Two buy-in shot only if there's a big fish. Someone limping all his hands but playing somewhat tight postflop meets the criteria.
3) Three buy-in shot if there's a mega fish. Someone limping all his hands and never folding any pair on flop or turn.
4) 5 buy-in shot if someone goes all-in preflop every hand

I also tilted a little bit and generally didn't play so great. Somehow still made a few euros.



I guess I have to call. I don't know if I ever win in practice.
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05-28-2021 , 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Thommehh
KJ played fine, you could be ahead some times but I think you're behind most of the times
AQcc I would check/fold or bet like 2.5-3$ and fold to a jam, you're targetting AJ and not much else
AQhh also check/fold, AJ/AT/KQ got there, if he had like KJ/QJ/QT/JT with or without clubs he wouldn't bluff most likely, tiny chance that he's bluffing with a lower hand like 78cc but there are way more value hands in his range if he's shoving imo, also in general people underbluff especially for these sizings so pretty easy check/fold imo

I think you should work more on improving first before thinking of moving up or taking a shot, keep watching youtube videos because you definately need to improve your hand/board/range reading as I've seen in the 2 AQ hands
KJ. Hmm you could be right but there are so few set combos left. If we also include KQ and AK to his range, then folding becomes the favorite I think.
AQcc. Yeah not many worse hands should call. It was just that I had this thought in 3bp you don't have to worry about flushes too much. Kind of silly to apply it in all situations.
AQhh. You're completely right.

You're forgetting it doesn't matter how badly I play but how badly the whole pool plays. To me it looks like I play better than the average player. The most objective indication of your level is your bankroll. It doesn't matter if there's lots of variance. I just follow my bankroll. If it goes low, I will step down in stakes until I meet my level.
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05-29-2021 , 10:20 PM
Ugh what a long crazy night. Pots were huge. Fish were exchanging money between themselves with 9 high and whatnot. Somehow I still manged to lose. Wasn't hitting anything good and when I finally did, I lost anyway. Most pots were multiway no matter the preflop action. 200bb+ deep I was scared to get it in with just a pair. And they could have any kind of hand. No capped ranges slowing them down. There was always some scary card on turn or river. After failing to get anything going on I did tilt a little bit. Some reg also tilted but much worse than me. He tried to copy their ultra loose and ultra aggro style and failed miserably. Only the true fish can profit from that playstyle.

Zenith poker has been in a bit of controversy shoving too much copyrighted material in their latest video. Still their other videos look pretty good. I think I will slowly go over most of them.




Zoom also didn't go too well. How many times do I have to make the same mistake before I learn? I don't know why I have such a big problem with folding. It's like the button doesn't even exist.
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05-31-2021 , 01:56 PM


May results are up. 22k zoom hands, 1.4 EV bb/100. The last two days didn't go well. Overall good enough imo. I stopped losing the moment I got my redline up. I had three goals for May:

1) 30k hands is enough.
2) Become a winning NL 10 regular
3) 10 sets of 25 minute Pomodoros a day.

1) Didn't achieve in zoom but I did if you count untracked regular tables too.
2) Barely
3) With all the regular tables it has been difficult to have any breaks. I should still try to do at least a little bit. Sitting all day is just so bad.

Other May things:

As I mentioned many times already, I concentrated my efforts to regular tables. It has liberated me from that reg rake trap.
Stopped worshiping wizard and actually started using my own brain. I am no robot no more.
Started eating porridge for breakfast and in general eating a lot healthier. My favorite way is to add a slice of butter and 5 blueberries on my porridge. Adds up to around 150 calories and I don't feel hunger for 4 hours.

June goals:

1) 20k zoom hands
2) Lots of regular tables
3) Watch at least one video a day
4) Manage tilt
5) Continue eating good
6) Exercise a bit. Thinking of trying frisbeegolf. Better than nothing.
7) Stand at least 3 hours every day


Variance has a huge role on how quickly you can advance in stakes. A guy simulated results for 50 people. Starting bankroll was 10 buy-ins and from then on 20 to move up or down. One problem with the results is the huge standard deviation used for high stakes, 135 for 10k nl. Someone said the correct number is around 110. Anyway you can still use the info to scare yourself. After 1 million hands. "Player 3 peaks at $188,758 but ends with only $1,578." If you're wondering why you're friend is crushing high stakes while you're still at the micros, it might actually be just variance. https://www.reddit.com/r/poker/comme...ng_variance_2/

Oop should have a range that forces ip to bet or raise less than 50%.
https://www.zenithpoker.com/the-50-rule-of-poker/

I purchased zenith preflop viewer to better see how I should reply to fish lines. You can already see bu,sb,bb for free. If bu limps, then sb should open to 10bb! I first thought some guy was trolling when he said that. Perfect play is always magical. One flaw is that 200bb ranges are missing some spots. There's no utg and only sb can limp.




When villains want to play two street poker, you just know they have it. I just don't know if there's any realistic chance for me to actually fold this.




My new preflop fish killer failed miserably. River is bit of an overplay.



Maybe I shouldn't raise turn after a flop ob. Nor sure what size to choose on the river, or if I should check. If villains limps all good hands too, then I prefer checking.
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05-31-2021 , 02:26 PM
KJs, maybe fold turn but it's hard
AQ why overbet with this hand, overbet either with the nuts or a bluff not a middling hand
KJ iso pre, start betting yourself postflop, river probably fine as played
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06-02-2021 , 05:15 AM
Ugh down 300 euros in regular tables from my peak. Zoom is also just dooming me. Luck has been terrible. On the positive side I was first in the daily 16nl leaderboard and won 200 bucks!

I have been thinking about timing tells. I remember a long time ago some pro said a fast reaction means weakness. I think it just means their decision was easy. So if a fish calls fast there's a good chance they will call the next street too.



Prob not the greatest time to bluff. I don't know why I expected a fish to fold a decent hand.




Sucks but I think I played it fine. Checking river would be too soft.
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06-02-2021 , 05:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Thommehh
KJs, maybe fold turn but it's hard
AQ why overbet with this hand, overbet either with the nuts or a bluff not a middling hand
KJ iso pre, start betting yourself postflop, river probably fine as played
Yeah AQ was pretty bad. I think I just assumed he would bet a fd and straight on turn. I have been playing too much with fish that call river ob with middle pair.
But my new charts said KJo is just a call pre. Do I actually have to use my own brain again? Betting the flop makes sense. Too many times it will just be checked through.
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06-02-2021 , 07:38 PM
I don't know about charts with limpers but when a button limps I'm 100% isolating KJo.

KJ in your last post is way too good to turn into a bluff
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06-04-2021 , 09:23 AM
Ai ai ai -15.9 EV bb/100, 4k zoom hands this month. I have been trying 4 tables again. It's almost comfortable. I have been feeling uncomfortable in 3bet pots. I don't know how often I should barrel low card boards with my overcards.

If you're an emotional player and have trouble folding anything to villains raises, then try increasing the feeling of respect for them. Before you start playing, you can mentally raise their existence higher.




Couldn't find anything interesting to show. I kind of like my turn bet, blocking KK, QQ. TT and JJ might fold to a bet already. I can also bluff a flush if it comes on river. Now that he bet river I guess he had A5 or something.
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06-04-2021 , 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Thommehh
I don't know about charts with limpers but when a button limps I'm 100% isolating KJo.

KJ in your last post is way too good to turn into a bluff
Previously I would have also isolated with KJ. Now I'm not so sure anymore. I think it's fine if the villain is a loose limper but against a tight gto limper maybe it's a very small mistake.

Yeah calling is the standard play obv.
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06-04-2021 , 07:01 PM
Limping isn't GTO so there is no such thing as a GTO limper

KQ has some showdown value there so no need to bluff, JJ or TT won't fold to a single bet anyways, if the turn went check check you could call and sometimes win the pot instead of always losing it now
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06-05-2021 , 08:11 PM
Zoom results for this month are still el terrible, except NL 16.



Villain doing his absolute best to make me fold a good hand. Stupid ass minraise. Folding AA is just too much to ask for, but I should just call and call river. The small turn bet size was just a random thought of mine. I could imagine doing it with JQ.
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06-05-2021 , 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Thommehh
Limping isn't GTO so there is no such thing as a GTO limper

KQ has some showdown value there so no need to bluff, JJ or TT won't fold to a single bet anyways, if the turn went check check you could call and sometimes win the pot instead of always losing it now
Yeah it's not gto, but you can still meet limpers in a gto way.

Hmm might be true. In 3bp I do go a bit crazy sometimes. I am more comfortable checking that in srp. I guess especially in blind battles checking overcards increases in value.
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06-05-2021 , 08:35 PM
So let's say it's tight limper, he'll still limp call J8s+, K6s+, JTo+, K9o+, see how much value you can get if you get a J or K high flop/board? Also you will pick up lots of pots preflop. I'd throw those new charts away, use GTOWiz charts and generally isolate hands you'd open raise on the button vs terrible limpers or cutoff range vs tighter limpers, isolating from the blinds think more like I did above
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06-06-2021 , 12:54 PM
Man zoom is only going worse. -87 usd, -20 EV bb/100, 6k hands.

Ice hockey finals are today. I just don't know how I can watch it, preferably with commentary. Can't find it for free anywhere. Anyway it's time to kick Canada's butt again.
Edit. Vpn and iihf on youtube.




Obviously theoretically I should call, but I didn't want to lose to another flop set or rivered flush again.

Last edited by wannabe2700; 06-06-2021 at 01:07 PM.
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06-06-2021 , 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Thommehh
So let's say it's tight limper, he'll still limp call J8s+, K6s+, JTo+, K9o+, see how much value you can get if you get a J or K high flop/board? Also you will pick up lots of pots preflop. I'd throw those new charts away, use GTOWiz charts and generally isolate hands you'd open raise on the button vs terrible limpers or cutoff range vs tighter limpers, isolating from the blinds think more like I did above
I guess the function of KJ is just to protect my limping range. I am supposed to limp with K2s even. And why not if villain allows it. This chart isn't meant for micros, but I still think there's value for limping from sb because fish just aren't going to play great poker postflop. I have also gotten some good results for opening 10x. Some fish call it with JTo.
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