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05-02-2021 , 11:18 AM
Hehe I have the throwables turned off so don't bother

QJ just cbet flop imo
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05-03-2021 , 09:48 AM
NL 10, 2681 hands, -45.33 usd net won, -16.9 bb/100, -16.4 EV bb/100

I have started thinking about how most people don't use rng. That means it's often easier to guess what they have. Many runouts don't help their range.




Hand against thommehh. NL 50 preflop charts allow some calling with AA, 21.5% to be exact here. I should just go all-in on turn. Double fd means more aggression.




Flop scared the shlt out of me. Wizard doesn't care. QQ overbets more than checks. JJ does even more overbetting. I already knew this concept. The weaker overpairs do more betting for protection. TT is a small exception. Maybe because it blocks villain's TT and T9s continuing hands. I should raise his flop bet, but I was still seeing straights all over my pants. My turn fold is hailed as a big blunder, and truth be told, he could have any kind of air. Interestingly my gut says it's fine to fold.




The bet sizes are all wonky, so I can't really use wizard on this hand. I thought AK would be a nice bluff combo representing AA, KK. The thing is he can't ever have those overpairs. I would like to bluff with A7 blocking 67s and A6s, but that's a pair and I would just check river.




Wizard suggests c-raising turn all-in! Insanity. Bluffs are Qx hands. River is bit of an overplay. If I had AsQ, then I could go all-in.




Overplaying my hand. Potting flop is okayish, but river is deemed terrible. Supposedly villain should check back most of his turn flushes. Probably that doesn't happen in reality, but surely there are some left. The fact that villain tanked before calling AQ blocking flush shows how bad I play.





Another big online tournament between elite players just finished. Magnus won Hikaru in the finals. Magnus hasn't been very successful lately, so it must have felt good to finally win something else than lichess arena. Mamedyarov beat Aronian for the bronze medal. The war between their countries is just a few months behind so some nationalistic sparks were undoubtedly flying around. Mamedyarov still has a big red post on his instagram saying "Armenia kills children". Maybe some of the tension will disappear now that Aronian has plans to join USA. I didn't really follow the tournament much, but I did notice one interesting game in the finals.




This was a wild game with multiple mistakes. What winning move did Carlsen miss?
Spoiler:
35...Rxd6! free pawn yo. 36.Bxd6 Nh3 37. Kh1 Bxg2 38. Rxg2 Qxc4 removing your husband's lover while giving you more room to mate with her husband.





Can you find a cool way to draw the game?
Spoiler:
37...Ra8! 38.Qxd7 Qxg2! 39. Rxg2 Nf2! 30. Kg1 Nh3 perpetual
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05-03-2021 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Thommehh
Hehe I have the throwables turned off so don't bother

QJ just cbet flop imo
Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Do you ever play mixed strategy on the flop?
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05-03-2021 , 10:32 AM
Good luck with your challenge.

As for rng, tons of winning regs, even at midstakes aren't using rng postflop and it's not really necessary. If you are the point where people are exploiting you for not rng'ing postflop then you are already at high stakes.

And using more than one sizing on the flop seems a little bit hard to balance over multiple streets would not reccomend.
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05-03-2021 , 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by wannabe2700
Just because you didn't see it, doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Do you ever play mixed strategy on the flop?
Against regs I try to mix it up sometimes, against fish I just try to get the most value

Also btw just shove the AA vs me preflop, I was thinking about folding for 1 sec because I thought you had QQ or AA as you would probably would've just called AQ on the turn and you wouldn't shove a lower pair either
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05-04-2021 , 12:01 PM
May, NL 10, 3797 hands, -26.62 usd net won, -7 bb/100, -7.9 EV bb/100

I won't have much time for poker the next few days, but I'll try to get at least some hands in. My wizard sub expired. I am not sure if I'll continue. It's a bit too expensive for me right now and some of the features are free. I will try using my little grey cells and see how it goes.




I didn't think people would coldcall 44. Usually it's something like TT, AQs. I am fine going broke here.




I guess I should fold river. He might have A4s.
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05-04-2021 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 2021shipit
Good luck with your challenge.

As for rng, tons of winning regs, even at midstakes aren't using rng postflop and it's not really necessary. If you are the point where people are exploiting you for not rng'ing postflop then you are already at high stakes.

And using more than one sizing on the flop seems a little bit hard to balance over multiple streets would not reccomend.
Are these people using feelings as rng? If they know a certain play is possible but not necessary, what do they do? This spot annoys me. I don't want to waste time trying to find a reason for an action when the right action allows multiple right answers. Or do these winners not change their play at all? Do they only bluff certain hands on the flop, turn and river?

My balancing method has been just trying to follow the percentages gto says and hope I get them somewhat right. Should I instead know my ranges and combos in every street? That would mean I would have to play very simple poker.

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Originally Posted by Thommehh
Against regs I try to mix it up sometimes, against fish I just try to get the most value

Also btw just shove the AA vs me preflop, I was thinking about folding for 1 sec because I thought you had QQ or AA as you would probably would've just called AQ on the turn and you wouldn't shove a lower pair either
I don't really know how to get max value from fish. If I know they're loose and aggro, should I cbet oop my missed AQ hand?

You were the one who bet all 3 streets.
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05-05-2021 , 09:37 AM
May, NL 10, 4386 hands, -62.82 usd net won, -14.3 bb/100, -12.4 EV bb/100

Lately I have been playing 2 tables, but it hasn't really helped much. The zoom players are just too tough for me. Sometimes I see regs making mistakes but mostly they play very solid poker. I might have to start playing regular tables. Some Russian poker streamer also advised to abandon zoom. Maybe I will try to play some on unibet and compare results.

Preflop ranges are free to see in wizard, but after that I'm on my own.



Wizard is never 4betting A4s here. If it was utg vs btn, then A4s 4bets half the time. So difficult to remember these things when I don't know the reasons for these differences. I'm fine with my flop and turn play. I finally remembered double fd on turn means aggro turned on.




Wizard gets it in with TT+, AQs+, AKo. I wonder if the correct play against population is to fold JJ.




I am not sure about river. It's hard for villain to call with anything worse, except KJ and K9. Maybe I should just bet a normal size on river and fold to a raise.




Sucks to block a flush draw, but I think folding would be too weak.




T9s should be a fold pre. Even QJs is folding. I called because his sizing wasn't so big. I kind of remembered someone saying flush draws go aggro in 4bet pots, so I did the same. Probably not the greatest decision when I lose to all A high flush draws.
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05-05-2021 , 12:43 PM
Dno if you know which hand I was talking about but I was talking about your AA vs my KK, you called my 4b and called flop and jammed turn on a Q high board. Against loose/aggro guys just check AQ missed oop.

A4 fold pre esp oop, way too small on flop again giving +ev calls to draws, turn check and hope he jams a flush draw or something, if you jam only better hands will call you
JJ pretty standard, against a nit just call the 3b ip
AK can check flop because you're up against 2p or straights pretty often, as played don't overbet river just big bet and fold to a shove
A9s fold river
T9s pretty standard I guess
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05-06-2021 , 09:59 AM
NL 10, 4613 hands, -53.19 usd net won, -11.5 bb/100, -9.7 EV bb/100

I didn't have any time for poker Yesterday had to study for the new work project. Somehow managed to pass the test yay. To keep my daily posts coming I just played 200 hands.




I got a high number, so I 3bet. Unfortunately it's not part of wizard's ranges. I am curious about the river. I see all options possible. I didn't raise because I thought I wouldn't be representing too many hands except 99 and maybe a few TT.
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05-06-2021 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Thommehh
Dno if you know which hand I was talking about but I was talking about your AA vs my KK, you called my 4b and called flop and jammed turn on a Q high board. Against loose/aggro guys just check AQ missed oop.

A4 fold pre esp oop, way too small on flop again giving +ev calls to draws, turn check and hope he jams a flush draw or something, if you jam only better hands will call you
JJ pretty standard, against a nit just call the 3b ip
AK can check flop because you're up against 2p or straights pretty often, as played don't overbet river just big bet and fold to a shove
A9s fold river
T9s pretty standard I guess
The hand I posted shows me just calling turn. Check again.

Yeah a4s is prob a pure fold pre vs population. I agree about the turn. If I check he might bet any kind of random hand.
Just calling JJ seems like the way to go in this super tight pool.
Yeah AK could also check or bet small on the flop.
Folding A9 on the river is so tight blind vs blind but maybe once again the right play against NL10 population.
I think it's better to just call T9s.
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05-06-2021 , 01:02 PM
Nvm I was talking about the hand we played against eachother
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05-06-2021 , 01:09 PM
Imo it's a good thing that you don't renew wizard. Get a subscription to a training site. And learn by yourself. Figuring out your own approach and strategy. Trying to reproduce wizard isn't what learning poker is about.
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05-07-2021 , 07:53 AM
May, NL 10 zoom, 5582 hands, -44.01 usd net won, -7.9 bb/100, -6.5 EV bb/100
Unibet roll, 20 minutes of play, 106.87 -> 111.23

I tested unibet a bit and it definitely seemed softer than zoom in stars. I will do a little experiment and play both sites equal amounts of time. Let's see what the results will be after this month ends.

Some bad quality pearls
https://www.youtube.com/c/JoeTheProC...yTrader/videos

Pretty good streamer I found https://www.twitch.tv/komododragonjesus




Wizard says fold pre 72.3%. I guess in practice it means fold 100%. I don't hate my flop and turn play. I am blocking AK,AQ, and I also have those hands in my range.




Very low frequency open. Should fold to a 3bet. 54s would be a call. I got a high number on the river, so I bet. I am fine with it. I can't come up with many worse hands than this.
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05-07-2021 , 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Thommehh
Nvm I was talking about the hand we played against eachother
Ctrl + hand against

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Originally Posted by SkullKid
Imo it's a good thing that you don't renew wizard. Get a subscription to a training site. And learn by yourself. Figuring out your own approach and strategy. Trying to reproduce wizard isn't what learning poker is about.
Well wizard is a training site too. You just have to use it well. It did help me understand some things but yeah maybe the tool is too fancy for beginners. The fire is loose and burning my clothes. I stared at the numbers a bit too much. The reasons matter more even if the reasons are false. There are so many good videos on youtube that I don't see the point for subbing similar content.
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05-07-2021 , 09:26 AM
I had KK utg you AA mp, you 3bet and called my 4bet, you called q high flop and jammed turn after my bet, can't post the hand at.
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05-08-2021 , 08:08 AM
May, NL 10 zoom, 6278 hands, -79.29 usd net won, -12.6 bb/100, -11.7 EV bb/100
Unibet roll, 86.04

Going down in both sites and I don't even know how. I have no idea where the money went. I can't see hand history in unibet, so that's a complete black box. It really feels like there are four fish in every table, but somehow it doesn't help me. In stars zoom there's maybe one fish per table.

Maybe I should just watch all jarretman's videos and try to copy his style.




I can't see myself folding this. Technically it's a 3bet pot.




I am fine with my bluff. Diamond suit isn't nice, but I'm blocking KQ, KJ. Maybe instead of a slight overbet I should just shove it all in. Probably the best hand to bluff is JT no diamond because KT will probably do more calling than 3betting. K8 and below might fold in a good day.
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05-08-2021 , 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Thommehh
I had KK utg you AA mp, you 3bet and called my 4bet, you called q high flop and jammed turn after my bet, can't post the hand at.
I said I should have done that, but I didn't do it. You can scroll up or ctrl f to see the hand in question.
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05-08-2021 , 09:08 AM
Ah I didn't see you posted it, I really thought you jammed the turn hmmm, probably misremembered it
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05-10-2021 , 10:25 AM
May, NL 10 zoom, 6996 hands, -57.26 usd net won, -8.2 bb/100, -8 EV bb/100
Unibet roll, 70.43 euros

I have been trying to find a way how I should study poker. Still don't really know, but I do know learning basics is a must. I shamefully admit I didn't know why overbetting works. If you are in the same boat, then watch this to start

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUNc_PGoORs&t=0s River toy game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jIJJTyc9i4M&t=0s Why overbetting works
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OelrINzwFog Practical examples

A nice post about studying https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/s...5&postcount=43

It seems rake is smaller in unibet than in stars. It makes it even more perplexing why I'm not succeeding there either. Am I really that horrible at poker? Maybe I'm not that bad but I just need to play and study for like a year before I can become a winning player. Everyone is studying poker nowadays. I haven't seen anyone truly crushing the micros without game selecting. I shouldn't complain too much. In chess it's much worse. You have to study full time for 5 years before you have a chance of winning anything.





Is folding river standard?
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05-10-2021 , 01:45 PM
Hmmm close I think but depends a bit on villain too
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05-11-2021 , 08:07 AM
Didn't play at all. I have still been trying to find the WAY to go. I just feel like I know nothing.

I found a somewhat old gto website I had never heard about before, poker-scientist. For some reason they don't even have a thread on 2+2. They have a pretty interesting concept going on. They have minimized the number of roads by 35% while still following gto. Makes it easier for humans to play. Though there are still million left.. The best affect of this is seen on the flop.

But as I just learned the flop is actually the easiest street to play, so I don't know how much this really helps. River ends the game, so the most important decisions pile up there. It's kind of similar how the last round in tournaments matter the most for rankings. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-VpHLbbnh4

Another video from them I really liked. How to max your winrate. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR0ZdYzjSxI

I am slowly starting to get a feel how poker works.

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Hmmm close I think but depends a bit on villain too
Yeah it's close. An added problem is he might have 4s4 too, and he might be scared of me having it.
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05-12-2021 , 10:53 AM
May, NL zoom, 8073 hands, -8.1 usd net won, -1 bb/100, -1.2 EV bb/100
Unibet roll 109.53 euros

Alright, finally things are looking a bit bright again. It could be Yesterday was just full of fish as Thommehh also won a lot. But I hope some part of my winnings came from better play. I used very little rng. I tried to mostly play safe and find some kind of logic for every play.

I have been enjoying wakko's videos https://www.youtube.com/c/PokerAmbition/videos

I have started eating porridge again after quitting them in my teenage years. I just found them so boring I moved onto bread. Later I hopped onto chocolate. Frankly terrible. Recently my health has deteriorated a bit. It was never great, but it finally went over the scale and I found myself sick from being sick. After just a few days of eating right, I already feel better. Though, I somehow managed to develop another problem... My throat feels like it's a bit tight. It's hard to breathe. My research tells me it's most likely some kind of weird anxiety problem. If I am concentrating on something else, I don't feel it. If I think about it about 90% of our days are filled with some kind of annoyance. Usually it's something very mild like an itch in your balls in a public place. I envy our future robot overlords that can control their wellbeing easily and change parts in a manner or minutes.




An annoying spot. I don't want to fold, but it feels like I am getting milked. If a K comes on the river, what do I do?




Would you bluff river? I managed to hold myself back. I probably have more JTs in my range than him so shoving does make some sense.
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05-12-2021 , 02:28 PM
KQs just fold turn, why would you call there with K high??

QTs played fine, I almost never turn my hands into a bluff especially not in a spot like this

Watching people play 500nl is cool and you can definately learn some things but you should really watch some micro videos because it plays very differently ofcourse
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05-13-2021 , 10:45 AM
May, NL 10 zoom, 8849 hands, -19.92 usd net won, -2.3 bb/100, -2.4 EV bb/100
Unibet roll, 108.87 euros

Nothing much happened. I was just slowly suffering. Choir was singing if it bleeds we can kill it.


MVL's report on the second part of candidates is pretty interesting. Maybe he wasn't as lazy as I thought. He did spend at least some time in the gym, as you can see at the bottom of the article. Though, I don't know why he is massaging his coach...
https://www.mvlchess.com/en/2021/05/...you-next-time/





I saw the double flush turn and went jiiyah. I guess I should I check call and fold river. Damn minraises.




I think this is my worst hand on the river so betting is prob ok. Basically I'm saying I have Ax and I want a little bit of value from him. I might bet KQ, QJ too.
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