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10-03-2016 , 08:49 PM
Hi max. I have been watching this thread for a while and have been very impressed with your results. I got a question for you. Do you think coaching is essential for beating microstakes no limit? I have been a breakeven player at 10nl for a long time and I'm considering whether coaching is worth the investment. I actually find live £1/£2 games to be softer than $10nl on PS. At least when I sit down live I know there is always going to be at least one fun player at the table, but when I'm playing zoom I am usually seeing 4 or 5 solid regs and maybe one bad reg.
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10-03-2016 , 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by chip_defender
Hi max. I have been watching this thread for a while and have been very impressed with your results. I got a question for you. Do you think coaching is essential for beating microstakes no limit? I have been a breakeven player at 10nl for a long time and I'm considering whether coaching is worth the investment. I actually find live £1/£2 games to be softer than $10nl on PS. At least when I sit down live I know there is always going to be at least one fun player at the table, but when I'm playing zoom I am usually seeing 4 or 5 solid regs and maybe one bad reg.
not essential no but helps.
live is much easier however i dont think you will improve as a poker player much. The people i see who are "regs" playing live would get crushed at 50z for example IMO.

Winning on stars in 2016 at 25z and up is tough and takes work, but its about the challenge more than anything cos the money is peanuts.

Not that im in a position to preach cos results are pretty average, but i would recommend playing alot, studying alot and investing time then you will get better, its only natural

glgl
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10-03-2016 , 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by max85
not essential no but helps.
live is much easier however i dont think you will improve as a poker player much. The people i see who are "regs" playing live would get crushed at 50z for example IMO.

Winning on stars in 2016 at 25z and up is tough and takes work, but its about the challenge more than anything cos the money is peanuts.

Not that im in a position to preach cos results are pretty average, but i would recommend playing alot, studying alot and investing time then you will get better, its only natural

glgl
Do you play for the challenge or for the money?
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10-03-2016 , 09:47 PM
the challenge. the money is a by product of success. Money comes naturally with hard work and dedication in all things. Dont get me wrong, when i won 3.7k at 50 in august it was sweet, it just built my stars USD roll higher......but, now its back to 3.5k
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10-03-2016 , 10:38 PM
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Originally Posted by max85
not essential no but helps.
live is much easier however i dont think you will improve as a poker player much. The people i see who are "regs" playing live would get crushed at 50z for example IMO.

Winning on stars in 2016 at 25z and up is tough and takes work, but its about the challenge more than anything cos the money is peanuts.

Not that im in a position to preach cos results are pretty average, but i would recommend playing alot, studying alot and investing time then you will get better, its only natural

glgl
Not really though, 25z on stars is a complete joke and 50z as i said is closer to 10nl on other networks at most hours. The winrates are lower overall at zoom because you can't just pound on the same guy with reads over and over but these 2 pools are jokes most of the time.

i have 50k hands now in the pool and have only 5 regs tagged good, other networks almost every reg is extremely solid or a crushing bot

to beat 25z you need basic understanding of the game + no bluffing range + large valuebet sizing
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10-04-2016 , 01:37 AM
lol @ you thinking you know everything about these pools w a 50k sample botson...
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10-04-2016 , 01:53 AM
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lol @ you thinking you know everything about these pools w a 50k sample botson...
z50, 99% of tables have 1 fish and often have 2+, bunch of 35-42 WWSF regs

50nl on other sites: rare fish, solid bots and solid regs with 48+ WWSF

You are only trying to make yourself feel better about your z50 endeavour by speaking about pools when you have no hands outside of stars.

Stars is the nuts, low rake, lots of really bad reg and tons of really valuable fishies.

Watch some twitch from the z100 and z25 pool on party, there's almost no fish and no extremely weak regs.
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10-04-2016 , 02:11 AM
GL. Post your 50z graph after 200k hands.
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10-04-2016 , 04:20 AM
Umm why did you start playing 100nl in the middle of a huge 50nl down swing? Chasing losses?
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10-04-2016 , 04:45 AM
I presume you're playing 100 now Boston?
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10-04-2016 , 04:50 AM
I've played 150k hands at 50 in two months and winning. Roll was big enough to shot, I felt mentally good, so I did. I lost now move back down to win another 1k then back to 100.
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10-04-2016 , 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by cheltNAM
I presume you're playing 100 now Boston?
have been at 100-400 for many years, i quit poker last year and im on a 300$ deposit with 1k withdrawal per month for the past 6months

got bored of bots and non fishy games at 25-50 on euro sites(still crushed) and decided to put in a big withdrawal and leave the last 300$ on stars and try my hand at zoom which i am horrid at

and surprise, as i always thought, stars has games 10x as soft as other sites on reg tables and the zoom are even better. I have never run as bad on a site as on stars and yet im still winning in these games. I think my play this year qualifies me to affirm that these games are a joke. There's SO many weak regs and whales! You guys seriously have no idea how lucky you are to have never played on other sites.

right now im at 70k hands of z25/50 with 4bb, not a meaningful sample yet but these games are a joke and even if i end up being a 1bb winner over 200k hands the games will still softer than any other sites. Took me 40k~ hands to understand the zoom format half decently, im sure these games are beatable for 8-10bb's by anyone running decent and isnt tilty.

Sorry for the derail max, you'll get them and you'd definitely beat euro sites unlike most of the pool. I seriously doubt z100 is much harder than z50
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10-04-2016 , 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by botsonparty
have been at 100-400 for many years, i quit poker last year and im on a 300$ deposit with 1k withdrawal per month for the past 6months

got bored of bots and non fishy games at 25-50 on euro sites(still crushed) and decided to put in a big withdrawal and leave the last 300$ on stars and try my hand at zoom which i am horrid at

and surprise, as i always thought, stars has games 10x as soft as other sites on reg tables and the zoom are even better. I have never run as bad on a site as on stars and yet im still winning in these games. I think my play this year qualifies me to affirm that these games are a joke. There's SO many weak regs and whales! You guys seriously have no idea how lucky you are to have never played on other sites.

right now im at 70k hands of z25/50 with 4bb, not a meaningful sample yet but these games are a joke and even if i end up being a 1bb winner over 200k hands the games will still softer than any other sites. Took me 40k~ hands to understand the zoom format half decently, im sure these games are beatable for 8-10bb's by anyone running decent and isnt tilty.

Sorry for the derail max, you'll get them and you'd definitely beat euro sites unlike most of the pool. I seriously doubt z100 is much harder than z50

Are you trolling ppl or trying to make yourself look bad? Every post you make is about how much of a crusher you are and how much people are inferior to you.
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10-04-2016 , 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by mahsjdi
Are you trolling ppl or trying to make yourself look bad? Every post you make is about how much of a crusher you are and how much people are inferior to you.
i have 0 post boasting about my own skills.

a failed narcissistic poker player might feel as if i am doing such thing but in reality i am not.

now get us some fries mate
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10-04-2016 , 07:41 AM
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Are you trolling ppl or trying to make yourself look bad? Every post you make is about how much of a crusher you are and how much people are inferior to you.
You still here?
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10-04-2016 , 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by botsonparty
i have 0 post boasting about my own skills.

a failed narcissistic poker player might feel as if i am doing such thing but in reality i am not.

now get us some fries mate
Funny.. You think i'm narcissistic.

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got bored of bots and non fishy games at 25-50 on euro sites(still crushed)
... That's just one of many in your post.


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You still here?
I still play form time to time and I like to see other players progress been in this thread and some others for a while now.
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10-04-2016 , 09:55 AM
You do come across as a bit of an idiot Boston. I don't get the constant were so lucky to be on stars? Game and site selection is important and if you're doing it wrong it's your own fault. Also many of the best will tell you stars is not the softest. Highest numbers of recs yes but that's because highest traffic.

Start a thread and document if you're crushing, I'm not doubting but you do make a ton of baseless inane posts.

Sorry max.
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10-04-2016 , 06:40 PM
chill fellas

ok so back on track

took yesterday off only played 150 hands while fixing hud issues etc. And played a session this morning two tabling. Played well and made some solid folds inspite of being hudless.



hands

vs 22/16 reg

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

Hero (BTN): $64.20
SB: $99.32
BB: $61.72
UTG: $61.37
MP: $59.69
CO: $53.02

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BTN with K A
UTG raises to $1.50, 1 fold, CO raises to $4.50, Hero calls $4.50, 3 folds

Flop: ($11.25) 2 K 3 (2 players)
CO bets $3.74, Hero calls $3.74

Turn: ($18.73) 7 (2 players)
CO bets $8.91, Hero calls $8.91

River: ($36.55) A (2 players)
CO bets $35.87 all in, Hero calls $35.87

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $108.29
Hero shows Ks Ah (two pair, Aces and Kings)
CO shows 5d 4d (a straight, Ace to Five)
CO wins $106.29
(Rake: $2.00)




vs reg. turn is not best card but i still think we should bet and charge draws

thoughts?

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $67.29
SB: $50.00
Hero (BB): $87.57
UTG: $51.52
MP: $150.44
CO: $89.59

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is BB with 8 K
3 folds, BTN raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $1

Flop: ($3.25) 8 K 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $3.09, Hero raises to $9.50, BTN calls $6.41

Turn: ($22.25) A (2 players)
Hero bets $14.50, BTN calls $14.50

River: ($51.25) J (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $41.79 all in, Hero folds

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $51.25
BTN wins $49.25
(Rake: $2.00)




not sure on most plus ev way to play this hand

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $85.24
Hero (SB): $103.67
BB: $98.94
UTG: $51.96
MP: $76.84
CO: $60.22

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is SB with A K
1 fold, MP raises to $1.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $5, BB calls $4.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($11.50) 7 3 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.60, BB calls $3.60

Turn: ($18.70) T (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $9.49, Hero calls $9.49

River: ($37.68) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $18.61, Hero folds

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $37.68
BB wins $35.80
(Rake: $1.88)



i thought river was to thin to jam

Poker Stars $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em - 6 players
DeucesCracked Poker Videos Hand History Converter

BTN: $28.72
SB: $50.42
BB: $103.83
UTG: $50.00
MP: $33.00
Hero (CO): $54.31

Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is CO with J T
2 folds, Hero raises to $1, 2 folds, BB raises to $3.25, Hero calls $2.25

Flop: ($6.75) J 6 J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $4, BB calls $4

Turn: ($14.75) 5 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $10.50, BB calls $10.50

River: ($35.75) A (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Spoiler:
Final Pot: $35.75
BB shows Qs Qc (two pair, Queens and Jacks)
Hero shows Jc Tc (three of a kind, Jacks)
Hero wins $33.96
(Rake: $1.79)
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10-04-2016 , 09:34 PM
akdd is probably a check call, most regs won't start betting midpairs too often on that board 2bi deep and if they have TT+ they'll probably check back river at 50
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10-05-2016 , 12:09 AM
AKdd is whatever, betting is fine, check-calling is fine, you might want to look into other areas of your game than the big pots if you're struggling
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10-05-2016 , 12:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Fayth
AKdd is whatever, betting is fine, check-calling is fine, you might want to look into other areas of your game than the big pots if you're struggling
Yeah it sucks when ppl make coaching videos about how to play fd and overs.
Anything goes and nothings really a mistake.
Even open jamming flop could be fine lol


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10-05-2016 , 12:39 AM
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Originally Posted by botsonparty
akdd is probably a check call, most regs won't start betting midpairs too often on that board 2bi deep and if they have TT+ they'll probably check back river at 50
mmm i think i would bet entire range here so betting 1/3 is ok, but yeah xc is cool too imo

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Originally Posted by Fayth
AKdd is whatever, betting is fine, check-calling is fine, you might want to look into other areas of your game than the big pots if you're struggling
agreed. Can you suggest areas to look at. I must admit im not great at analysing my game. The hands i post here are just plucked from pt after a session for content mostly.

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Yeah it sucks when ppl make coaching videos about how to play fd and overs.
Anything goes and nothings really a mistake.
Even open jamming flop could be fine lol


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not sure about that lol
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10-05-2016 , 01:11 AM
well I don't know exactly how you play or study so I was just basing this off the hands you post here but you might just want to look at the smaller pots, ideally I would say just work with a solver to figure it out yourself

but one thing I've noticed from various twitch streams is most people suck at playing the small/medium pots
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10-05-2016 , 01:32 AM
I think that there are more profitable ways to play 50z-200z than using a solver

Not as true when you start playing 500z and higher no z games, of course.
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10-05-2016 , 02:44 AM
When studying start with the hands/ranges that take place with higher frequencies.

Playing optimally T9s in a 3bet pot OOP is a very good thing to know but this will hapen with such a low frequency that shouldn`t normally affect your WR if you`re just playing it intuitively and not optimally.

I would also sort the database by the players I have most hands on and start analyzing each of them to find their leaks and start creating exploitable strategies against them. When playing multiple tables it`s hard to notice a lot of things, especially in the zoom format where you fold and can not see how the hands play out.

You could also try creating some very specific colour codes for the opponents based on the info that is most useful to you.

Good luck !
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