If gf becomes available again at any point in future pls drop me a pm. Sounds alot too smart for teh timstone but my looks have to count for something. Thanks in advance0

Boy do you run good

confirmed GTO gf

Just start spending some of your winnings on your gf's and they will soon come round

as soon as you posted that hand was looking forward to everyone telling you you had to check it, you should have gone with the GTO posting of saying you cbet it 100% though!

I'm going to be more of a dick than Ben here and tell you that you will not find a worthwhile girlfriend living this kind of life. Showed my gf this post earlier and she just straight up laughed at you sounding confused about her not being supportive. Poker isn't the same as a fulltime job in the stresses it puts on a relationship;
a) an hour playing consumes much more energy than an hour real world working,
b) the hours of peak games are generally unconducive to being sociable
c) unless you're a mental game god it will effect your external mood more than real world hours.
d) minor but still not to be overlooked, it puts some strain on your other etc too when she has to explain to friends and relatives what you do without implying your some kind of degenerate

All of the above considered imo means that you can't really expect to play real world hours of poker with study and maintain a good relationship, and 30 hours ON TOP of a 9 to 5, and assuming you're studying too, is just going to be corrosive to you personally let alone anyone else imo.
Personally I manage 25-30 hours playing then maybe 10 studying/coaching a week and feel like I'm pushing the bar, obviously everyone is different but just think it's important to realise how much strain hours of poker can put on relationships with people who aren't part of the game, it's just a very hard thing to fully grasp.

I don't really agree with any of these points except maybe b)

I really don't understand why you would think one hour of playing poker consumes more energy than one hour of real world working, doesn't it entirely depend on your actual job?

I'd say the vast majority of 'real world' jobs are no where near as mentally taxing as mass multitabling online poker. I think this is especially true given that most serious players will basically play as many tables as they are capable of handling simultaneously. So even though there are some examples of jobs that are comparable in terms of how mentally demanding they are, it's hard to suggest ones that are moreso.

I think the only way you could argue that 'real world' jobs are more tiring, is if you look at it from a physical/manual labour perspective, but then you're comparing apples and oranges.

Not this...

You sound like an idiot

People who sound like idiots often speak trews though. Everything he wrote is 100% accurate

jesus

great thread, great progress. i really enjoy checking this thread.

in all the discussion of not looking at results, i never understand how people don't accidentally see cashier from time to time. i don't play on Stars so i don't know if theres a way to hide cashier or something.

are you guys referring to not checking graphs? or being totally blind about session and daily results entirely?

Just a bit of quick math to se how insane playing 30 hours a week on top of a full time job kind of is.

40 hours of work
5 hours of travel
30 hours of poker
5 hours of study/2+2/thinking about poker
= 80 hours. When you include sleeping, eating, daily hygiene and many other things people don't think about that take a decent chunk of time overall you are realistically looking about about 10 hours a week to spend with your significant other. If you can make that 10 hours really freaking awesome, then maybe things will be okay, but you have your work cut out for you, that's for sure.

Agree 1000% which is why I broke up with the latest one. Knew I wasn't going to go the distance with her anyways. And short term I'd rather focus on poker than that relationship

And yes 10+tabling poker is much harder/taxing than time spent in normal jobs.

My girlfriend is a poker player her self. Nuts imo.

Charlotte is a pretty damn good player herself. She was certainly better than all the other fishregs at the uni game I used to run!

Hmmm...teh Tim doesn't seem like the type who wants long term relationships.
I do agree that playing 30 hours of poker on top of a job is almost impossible to deal with.

However some of you seem to think that it's hard for a woman to have a relationship with a poker player.
Maybe you haven't tried working a 9-5 schedule which in reality is more like a 8-6. It's a different type of effort and it's more boring than poker so when you come home you're so fed up that you are usually not in the proper mood for her.
Also 9-5 is a repetitive work so it gets even more boring over time, turns you into a dull and uninteresting person.
At best, if you have the same work schedule you will have ~4 hours to spend with her while being mostly tired already.

As a poker player you are cooler, usually work out and have a nice body, travel a lot and because your lifestyle is dynamic, you are more fun and different than the normal guys that she meets.
For me, I considered being a poker player as a big advantage when it comes to the opposite sex.

itt nobody has actually had a real job

I guarantee any real job is 100x more stressful than poker

Especially any job that earns the same amount of money as the poker player earns

having played poker against you I'm not going to be too worried about you questioning my intelligence.

Having done all three, i.e. playing full time, working full time, and working full time with heavy poker volume, I feel qualified to comment here.

PlasticElephant makes some good points that I agree with, and some I don't.

I'll start with the points I agree with, which are b) and d).
Poker hours are unsociable for the most part, especially if you're playing MTTs, and generally they won't coincide with a significant other working a job with regular hours. I used to justify it to myself that as we were still in the same room in the evenings, that was still time being spent together, but this isn't true. It's not conducive to either your poker playing, or your relationship, to try and multi-task both. Your bankroll and your relationship would be much healthier if you gave each your full attention in any one evening.

Explaining to your own family that you're playing poker for a living is stressful enough, I'm sure many of us understand that, but it is much harder for your partner to explain that to their family, and have them be understanding about it. It's even harder if your deep in the relationship and you're in some way financially linked. I didn't have my partners family's full support when I was playing full time, but I don't think they begrudged me for it. (Unlike her colleagues who repeatedly encouraged her to break it off with me!)

To the points I somewhat disagree with.

Firstly, poker 100% effects your mood, no matter how skilled your mental game is, but in the same sense that a bad day at work will. The problem is with poker, is that it's still there in front of you, whereas to a degree you can leave work problems at the office. However, with work issues, the majority of problems are somewhat out of your control, whereas poker you can mitigate through playing less, studying more etc. If you're boss is a douche, there's little you can do about it. So personally, in general I wouldn't say Poker affects your mood more adversely than a real job.

And with point a), which is a bit off topic anyway in my opinion, no way does an hour of poker consume more energy than an hour of work, and if you believe that then you haven't worked hard enough. I put as much effort and energy into my job as I did with my poker playing.


Overall, although I agree and disagree with some of your points, I agree with your summary that Poker does affect a relationship differently than a real job does, but the keyword there is "differently", not any more or any less. I certainly wouldn't, and have learnt not to, compound the two by trying to combine both a full time job and full time playing schedule with a relationship. I'd say to pokerarb, if you want to work and play, then that's fine, the best of luck to you, but accept that you aren't leaving time for a healthy relationship.

Location is also a factor.
In eastern europe you likely make 10x more playing poker than what you make at a normal good job.
Her colleagues wouldn't be saying that here except the ones who want to take her place with you

Age also plays a significant factor. A girl in her late 20s to early 30s has a completely different perspective, and security is a much more important in the relationship.

Andre, all that great work you've done in the Stars regs thread with the pics you've posted has just been undone by that one

Obv balancing my pics range. Russell's the trews is a good watch imo.
Ben sorry for off-topic