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05-04-2015 , 06:42 AM
In the second hand on your latest post, what's the purpose of the 1/4 pot bet? What kind of situations would you do that beside slowplaying?
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05-04-2015 , 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Cuvier
In the second hand on your latest post, what's the purpose of the 1/4 pot bet? What kind of situations would you do that beside slowplaying?
So as standard, in a 3b pot to get in stacks by the river (assuming you have 3b to at least 8bb pre and we're 100bb deep) you can just over half pot flop and turn to have a pot sized river shove. In 4b pots because a larger percentage of our stack is already invested, by the flop we are able to bet around 1/3 flop 1/3 turn and shove for less than pot on the river. By keeping sizes consistent we can barrel as a bluff more and generally gives us more options rather than just betting big on the flop. There are scenarios where we want to be betting 1/2 pot otf and shoving turn in 4b pots but it depends on the board texture + our perceived range + their perceived range.

No grinding today, been doing fun activities in London and playing pool!
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05-04-2015 , 02:14 PM
#toomuchstrat

[spoiler]kind rgds from teh TimStone[/spoiler]
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05-05-2015 , 12:35 PM
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Originally Posted by TimStone
#toomuchstrat
I like strat. You can pm me if you have any questions about the hands

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Pretty stressful day today, didn't win a hand for the first 1300 hands and then caught some heat



vs passive fish:

    Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36262741

    CO: $400 (100 bb)
    BTN: $699.12 (174.8 bb)
    SB: $400 (100 bb)
    BB: $431.75 (107.9 bb)
    Hero (UTG+1): $404 (101 bb)
    UTG+2: $461.20 (115.3 bb)
    MP1: $276.72 (69.2 bb)
    MP2: $400 (100 bb)
    MP3: $406 (101.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 3 3
    Hero raises to $10, UTG+2 calls $10, MP1 calls $10, 6 folds

    Flop: ($36) 3 8 9 (3 players)
    Hero bets $24.06, UTG+2 calls $24.06, MP1 raises to $96, Hero raises to $168, UTG+2 folds, MP1 raises to $266.72 and is all-in, Hero calls $98.72

    Turn: ($593.50) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($593.50) A (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $593.50 pot ($2.80 rake)
    Final Board: 3 8 9 4 A
    Hero showed 3 3 and won $590.70 ($313.98 net)
    UTG+2 mucked and lost (-$34.06 net)
    MP1 showed T T and lost (-$276.72 net)



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    vs lag reg:

      Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36262761

      UTG+1: $195.53 (97.8 bb)
      UTG+2: $55.94 (28 bb)
      MP1: $200 (100 bb)
      MP2: $322.06 (161 bb)
      MP3: $221.29 (110.6 bb)
      CO: $214.53 (107.3 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $272.12 (136.1 bb)
      SB: $227.20 (113.6 bb)
      BB: $216.11 (108.1 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with T K
      6 folds, Hero raises to $5, SB raises to $18, BB folds, Hero calls $13

      Flop: ($38) K 8 3 (2 players)
      SB bets $20, Hero calls $20

      Turn: ($78) 7 (2 players)
      SB bets $40, Hero calls $40

      River: ($158) T (2 players)
      SB bets $149.20 and is all-in, Hero calls $149.20

      Spoiler:
      Results: $456.40 pot ($2.80 rake)
      Final Board: K 8 3 7 T
      Hero showed T K and won $453.60 ($226.40 net)
      SB showed A A and lost (-$227.20 net)



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      Making an ambitious call vs whale:

        Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36262771

        SB: $585.17 (97.5 bb)
        Hero (BB): $717.20 (119.5 bb)
        UTG+2: $958.27 (159.7 bb)
        MP1: $637.80 (106.3 bb)
        MP2: $612 (102 bb)
        MP3: $600 (100 bb)
        CO: $240 (40 bb)
        BTN: $600 (100 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 A
        6 folds, SB raises to $18, Hero calls $12

        Flop: ($36) 6 A T (2 players)
        SB checks, Hero bets $17.88, SB calls $17.88

        Turn: ($71.76) Q (2 players)
        SB bets $68.96, Hero calls $68.96

        River: ($209.68) T (2 players)
        SB bets $103.44, Hero calls $103.44

        Spoiler:
        Results: $416.56 pot ($2.80 rake)
        Final Board: 6 A T Q T
        SB showed A K and won $413.76 ($205.48 net)
        Hero mucked 5 A and lost (-$208.28 net)



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        vs aggro regfish. Was probably calling all in here:

          Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36262791

          BB: $203 (101.5 bb)
          CO: $286.29 (143.1 bb)
          Hero (BTN): $231.12 (115.6 bb)
          SB: $255.93 (128 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with 4 Q
          CO folds, Hero raises to $5, SB folds, BB calls $3

          Flop: ($11) 4 2 3 (2 players)
          BB checks, Hero bets $7.35, BB calls $7.35

          Turn: ($25.70) 8 (2 players)
          BB checks, Hero bets $17.17, BB raises to $52.49, Hero calls $35.32

          River: ($130.68) T (2 players)
          BB checks, Hero checks

          Spoiler:
          Results: $130.68 pot ($1.25 rake)
          Final Board: 4 2 3 8 T
          BB showed T A and won $129.43 ($64.59 net)
          Hero mucked 4 Q and lost (-$64.84 net)



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          05-06-2015 , 07:45 AM
          Hit my 20k year goal with the help of this pot:

            Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 7 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36264561

            BB: $600 (100 bb)
            MP1: $496.27 (82.7 bb)
            MP2: $729.55 (121.6 bb)
            MP3: $1,023.63 (170.6 bb)
            CO: $755.60 (125.9 bb)
            BTN: $760.77 (126.8 bb)
            Hero (SB): $664.32 (110.7 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with J A
            4 folds, BTN raises to $13.50, Hero raises to $52.50, BB folds, BTN calls $39

            Flop: ($111) 6 A J (2 players)
            Hero bets $59.26, BTN calls $59.26

            Turn: ($229.52) 5 (2 players)
            Hero bets $120.89, BTN calls $120.89

            River: ($471.30) K (2 players)
            Hero bets $431.67, BTN calls $431.67

            Spoiler:
            Results: $1,334.64 pot ($2.80 rake)
            Final Board: 6 A J 5 K
            BTN showed T A and lost (-$664.32 net)
            Hero showed J A and won $1,331.84 ($667.52 net)



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            Time to play nl400 6m. Please go easy on me!
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            05-06-2015 , 09:47 AM
            battling this crusher now at HU nl100!!!

            come rail guys
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            05-06-2015 , 10:39 AM
            was a fun match! But Ben came up on top with I think around EV 50bb/100
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            05-06-2015 , 10:45 AM
            What did you have vs his KQs?
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            05-06-2015 , 10:46 AM
            we were flipping
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            05-07-2015 , 01:34 PM
            Quote:
            Originally Posted by Solidthought
            was a fun match! But Ben came up on top with I think around EV 50bb/100
            haha i definitely ran good but it was a good laugh!

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            Welcome to 400nl...

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            Just insane heat!


            vs really aggro reg. 52 wwsf and 48 w@sd. Thoughts would be appreciated on this 1:

              Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36280291

              UTG+2: $655.87 (164 bb)
              MP1: $558.30 (139.6 bb)
              MP2: $177.89 (44.5 bb)
              MP3: $639.71 (159.9 bb)
              CO: $780.14 (195 bb)
              Hero (BTN): $400 (100 bb)
              SB: $477.36 (119.3 bb)
              BB: $406 (101.5 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q K
              5 folds, Hero raises to $10, SB folds, BB raises to $38, Hero calls $28

              Flop: ($78) J Q 4 (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero checks

              Turn: ($78) 6 (2 players)
              BB checks, Hero bets $32, BB calls $32

              River: ($142) A (2 players)
              BB bets $104.40]



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              vs very bad fish:

                Poker Stars, $2/$4, $0.80 ante No Limit Hold'em Cash, 4 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36280301

                CO: $413.57 (103.4 bb)
                BTN: $422.27 (105.6 bb)
                SB: $455.99 (114 bb)
                Hero (BB): $813.53 (203.4 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is BB with 9 Q
                2 folds, SB raises to $12, Hero calls $8

                Flop: ($27.20) 7 5 9 (2 players)
                SB bets $12, Hero calls $12

                Turn: ($51.20) Q (2 players)
                SB bets $24, Hero raises to $84, SB calls $60

                River: ($219.20) 5 (2 players)
                SB checks, Hero bets $174.39, SB calls $174.39

                Spoiler:
                Results: $567.98 pot ($1.50 rake)
                Final Board: 7 5 9 Q 5
                SB mucked 7 8 and lost (-$283.19 net)
                Hero showed 9 Q and won $566.48 ($283.29 net)



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                Interesting hand vs good reg. PFR was a fish, his 3b sizing indicated hands similar to the one he had tbh. I guess we fold 0 rivers if we call this one :s

                  Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36280311

                  SB: $200 (100 bb)
                  Hero (BB): $204.46 (102.2 bb)
                  UTG: $192.57 (96.3 bb)
                  MP: $208 (104 bb)
                  CO: $205.46 (102.7 bb)
                  BTN: $200 (100 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is BB with K K
                  UTG raises to $4, MP raises to $14, 3 folds, Hero calls $12, UTG folds

                  Flop: ($33) 3 2 8 (2 players)
                  Hero checks, MP bets $18.76, Hero calls $18.76

                  Turn: ($70.52) 9 (2 players)
                  Hero checks, MP bets $44.63, Hero calls $44.63

                  River: ($159.78) A (2 players)
                  Hero checks, MP bets $130.61, Hero calls $127.07 and is all-in

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $413.92 pot ($2.80 rake)
                  Final Board: 3 2 8 9 A
                  Hero showed K K and won $411.12 ($206.66 net)
                  MP showed Q J and lost (-$204.46 net)



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                  We won footie 7:1 last night which was quality, although the opposition were horrendous.

                  Got a big week next week of grinding, my gf is in New York all week so seems a good opportunity. I say that now, but no doubt i'll play the same if not less than i usually play.

                  Also, i've started meditating daily and it's really great. Helps with my mindset a ton and generally something that a load of my therapy mates have suggested to do. If anyone's interested then the video below is a great intro into what to expect plus reasons for doing it.



                  There are a couple other things that i'm hoping to start implementing into my routine but i'll type them up as i go.

                  gl!
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                  05-07-2015 , 01:45 PM
                  Never folding H1, just can't decide whether I like calling or jamming better.
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                  05-07-2015 , 05:25 PM
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by sifiasco
                  Never folding H1, just can't decide whether I like calling or jamming better.
                  I agree about not folding but what benefit does jamming over calling? What are you hoping to fold out?
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                  05-07-2015 , 05:46 PM
                  Seems like he clearly has jx Otr in hand one
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                  05-07-2015 , 08:45 PM
                  Shot 4006max. Make 5 stacks in 400 hands. Nooooooo problemo...

                  [spoiler]kind rgds from teh TimStone[/spoiler]
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                  05-07-2015 , 09:37 PM
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                  05-08-2015 , 07:32 AM
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by sifiasco
                  Never folding H1, just can't decide whether I like calling or jamming better.
                  Have you decided yet?

                  My thoughts on the hand were to either call or fold, not call or shove. He has a range that consists of Jx and AJ, maybe KT(?) maybe even AA but ofc i don't expect him to play many of those hands this way. I kinda thought he had AJ or a random weird bluff. The only problem is that it's pretty difficult to assign him a bluffing range.

                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by Husker
                  I agree about not folding but what benefit does jamming over calling? What are you hoping to fold out?
                  Pretty much this ^

                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by Sammy21
                  Seems like he clearly has jx Otr in hand one
                  I think using the word 'clearly' may be an overstatement here! I am kinda surprised that everyone is saying its basically an easy call too tbh. I may be missing something

                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by TimStone
                  Shot 4006max. Make 5 stacks in 400 hands. Nooooooo problemo...
                  I see this thread continues to upset you
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                  05-08-2015 , 08:00 AM
                  AcXc look like the obvious hands that get there to me. However, I'm assuming there are a few more possibilities that would just fire as a bluff on that river that I wouldn't expect to see at my regular stakes.
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                  05-08-2015 , 04:56 PM
                  sometimes you just have to shove to prove a point. make them respect you at the new stakes.
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                  05-08-2015 , 05:55 PM
                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by Husker
                  AcXc look like the obvious hands that get there to me. However, I'm assuming there are a few more possibilities that would just fire as a bluff on that river that I wouldn't expect to see at my regular stakes.
                  Well tbh the hand he showed up with i wouldn't expect anyone at any limit to have...
                  Spoiler:
                  he had 99


                  Quote:
                  Originally Posted by bigacsiga
                  sometimes you just have to shove to prove a point. make them respect you at the new stakes.
                  Thanks for the advice, i'll bare it in mind!

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                  Decent day today with some guys handing me money

                  vs fish:

                    Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36296351

                    UTG: $262.52 (131.3 bb)
                    MP: $221.64 (110.8 bb)
                    CO: $225.16 (112.6 bb)
                    BTN: $226.71 (113.4 bb)
                    SB: $78 (39 bb)
                    Hero (BB): $200 (100 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is BB with A A
                    3 folds, BTN raises to $6, SB folds, Hero raises to $20, BTN calls $14

                    Flop: ($41) 9 K 9 (2 players)
                    Hero bets $24, BTN calls $24

                    Turn: ($89) A (2 players)
                    Hero bets $38, BTN raises to $76, Hero calls $38

                    River: ($241) 7 (2 players)
                    Hero checks, BTN bets $106.71, Hero calls $80 and is all-in

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $401 pot ($2.80 rake)
                    Final Board: 9 K 9 A 7
                    BTN showed T T and won $0.00 (-$200 net)
                    Hero showed A A and won $398.20 ($198.20 net)



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                    Ambitious station vs loosish reg:

                      Poker Stars, $1/$2 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36296371

                      CO: $200 (100 bb)
                      BTN: $215.60 (107.8 bb)
                      SB: $201 (100.5 bb)
                      BB: $181.98 (91 bb)
                      UTG: $217.38 (108.7 bb)
                      Hero (MP): $200 (100 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is MP with 9 A
                      UTG folds, Hero raises to $5, CO calls $5, BTN folds, SB calls $4, BB folds

                      Flop: ($17) 3 6 9 (3 players)
                      SB bets $9.74, Hero calls $9.74, CO raises to $34, SB folds, Hero calls $24.26

                      Turn: ($94.74) 4 (2 players)
                      Hero checks, CO checks

                      River: ($94.74) 9 (2 players)
                      Hero checks, CO bets $60, Hero calls $60

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $214.74 pot ($2.80 rake)
                      Final Board: 3 6 9 4 9
                      CO showed 3 3 and won $211.94 ($112.94 net)
                      Hero mucked 9 A and lost (-$99 net)



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                      Fish again:

                        Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36296391

                        MP: $515.48 (128.9 bb)
                        Hero (CO): $420.29 (105.1 bb)
                        BTN: $754.50 (188.6 bb)
                        SB: $666.73 (166.7 bb)
                        BB: $347.97 (87 bb)
                        UTG: $437.65 (109.4 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is CO with K K
                        2 folds, Hero raises to $12, 2 folds, BB calls $8

                        Flop: ($26) 8 9 5 (2 players)
                        BB bets $12.41, Hero raises to $49.16, BB calls $36.75

                        Turn: ($124.32) Q (2 players)
                        BB bets $100, Hero raises to $267.19, BB calls $167.19

                        River: ($658.70) 9 (2 players)
                        BB bets $19.62 and is all-in, Hero calls $19.62

                        Spoiler:
                        Results: $697.94 pot ($2.80 rake)
                        Final Board: 8 9 5 Q 9
                        Hero showed K K and won $695.14 ($347.17 net)
                        BB showed A 8 and lost (-$347.97 net)



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                        gl
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                        05-08-2015 , 08:08 PM
                        what could you possibly do differently in h2
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                        05-08-2015 , 08:52 PM
                        Guy is good player with 99 he knew he cannot win pot by checking. But in all seriousness vs teh wtsd and wsf you describes this is a harder snap than if u have KK pre bu vv bb and u get shipped on...

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                        05-09-2015 , 06:50 AM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
                        Have you decided yet?

                        My thoughts on the hand were to either call or fold, not call or shove. He has a range that consists of Jx and AJ, maybe KT(?) maybe even AA but ofc i don't expect him to play many of those hands this way. I kinda thought he had AJ or a random weird bluff. The only problem is that it's pretty difficult to assign him a bluffing range.
                        About that hand 1: I don't see him bluffing here very often. In my eyes if he has AJ here, wich he has very often in my eyes, it's the nuts for him. Because you would most likely bet the flop with KT. That totally explains the line; x/x flop, x/c turn.

                        You on the other side, AJ is certainly in your range when you check back flop and bet the turn when he checks, so he should be scared of that.
                        And I think he would most likely bet his draws and some air with backdoor equity or something, so I don't see him bluffing that much at all.

                        I would lean towards a fold. Calling as 2nd best, but never shoving imo.
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                        05-09-2015 , 07:38 AM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
                        **** zoom! WE LOVE REG TABLES
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by wittynick
                        You must have a good script.
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by Hiei20
                        I can tell he has, and probably lives and sleeps inside Stars' offices at Isle of Man.
                        From another thread. Do you live in Isle of Man also?
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                        05-09-2015 , 03:34 PM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by valee
                        what could you possibly do differently in h2
                        Fold flop i guess or fold river

                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by TimStone
                        Guy is good player with 99 he knew he cannot win pot by checking. But in all seriousness vs teh wtsd and wsf you describes this is a harder snap than if u have KK pre bu vv bb and u get shipped on...

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                        hmmm not sure about that

                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by GilZ89
                        About that hand 1: I don't see him bluffing here very often. In my eyes if he has AJ here, wich he has very often in my eyes, it's the nuts for him. Because you would most likely bet the flop with KT. That totally explains the line; x/x flop, x/c turn.

                        You on the other side, AJ is certainly in your range when you check back flop and bet the turn when he checks, so he should be scared of that.
                        And I think he would most likely bet his draws and some air with backdoor equity or something, so I don't see him bluffing that much at all.

                        I would lean towards a fold. Calling as 2nd best, but never shoving imo.
                        Thanks for your feedback! My thoughts were similar to yours. I did time right down and was so close to folding but decided he was a little too spazzy to fold. As i said before, he had 99

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                        Originally Posted by wittynick
                        From another thread. Do you live in Isle of Man also?
                        haha no i live in London

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                        Today was pretty good



                        Bluffed off my first stack at 400 6max too!

                          Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
                          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #36300951

                          CO: $400 (100 bb)
                          BTN: $412 (103 bb)
                          SB: $400 (100 bb)
                          BB: $819.68 (204.9 bb)
                          Hero (MP): $420.38 (105.1 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is MP with A 8
                          Hero raises to $10, CO raises to $26, 3 folds, Hero raises to $64, CO calls $38

                          Flop: ($134) 2 4 4 (2 players)
                          Hero bets $39.98, CO calls $39.98

                          Turn: ($213.96) 5 (2 players)
                          Hero bets $67.57, CO calls $67.57

                          River: ($349.10) 6 (2 players)
                          Hero bets $248.83 and is all-in, CO calls $228.45 and is all-in

                          Spoiler:
                          Results: $806.00 pot ($2.80 rake)
                          Final Board: 2 4 4 5 6
                          CO showed A A and won $803.20 ($403.20 net)
                          Hero showed A 8 and lost (-$400 net)



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                          Debating whether or not to play a SCOOP schedule too.

                          Met up with a fellow PG&C grinder Parsons Grinder today. Super nice guy and a lot of fun! Check out his thread here:

                          http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17...ondon-1473518/

                          glgl
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                          05-10-2015 , 06:04 AM
                          Yeah, was cool to meet up yesterday, good to finally meet another poker player! Good luck for Sunday.
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