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11-16-2018 , 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mayox
the shy or rookie

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ban

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Originally Posted by Bananasplit
Man it's scary to run this bad, the idea that variance can **** you up so much when you are trying to build up your roll and YOUR LIFE is something extremly frustrating to deal with I think.
In other areas, if you are skilled, you get recognized by your peers/clients and you will live comfortably. It's very hard to accept that luck has so much impact on our path as a poker pro.
haha, yeah it's certainly different to any type of work in that respect.

It can be super frustrating too. Fortunately there isn't the pressing issue of needing to win cus of financial reason which obviously is a huge help.

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Originally Posted by Rapidesh123
Chill a bit, tastyy
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Originally Posted by bigstealer
I also think you don’t really understand what is socially appropriate. Even if what you’re saying is true there’s absolutely NO WAY you’d join a discussion IRL and passively aggressively say that Ben was a bad reg in ear shot but for some reason behind the safety net of a pseudonym and a keyboard you feel empowered. What a guy.
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
Funny to see a guy scrambling around for a 25nl stake talking about what competent players would and wouldn't do
it's PGC, it's chill, will respond

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Originally Posted by wj294
Tasty must be schizophrenic, right?
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
Roses are red
Violets are blue
I'm a schizophrenic
And so am I
lmfao that rhyme

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Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
yah i dont think u understand the concept of std deviation and how it applies to games where the edges and winrates are pretty thin
tasty? perhaps yeah

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Originally Posted by Bananasplit
Why did he remove his reply/account ?
I swear, people are weird.
I think it was the mods? I didn't report but maybe someone else did



Interesting post, and ofc there is some truth to what you're saying. However, it seems that you are the one who may have things mixed up. You've only been around the forums/using whotfru for a relatively short period of time. King10clubs actually broke even for ONE MILLION hands in 2014 or 2015. He's one player who has arguably been at the very top of his game for years, and is a prime example of the sickness of variance. I can give you countless other examples of good winning players going on 150-250k hand breakeven/losing stretches too (who are still playing fulltime too).

I obviously agree that variance and falling behind the curve are different things, but i have broken even/LOST money over 150-250k hand samples several times (just go back through this thread and have a look). I've actually lost count of the amount of times that people have made similar posts to yours when i've been losing for hundreds of thousands of hands, and then when i start winning again (bar the classic guys who say i'm heatering blah blah) they seemingly disappear...until the next time i'm having a rough stretch. I've been around long enough to know the difference between runbad and falling behind the curve, and while i definitely am not one of the top 500z regs (and tbh, i don't think i ever was) variance has played a FAR bigger factor in this sample than lack of quality in my game. That said, I'm studying regularly, spending time with players who are have a better understanding of the game that me and taking my work very seriously (shoutout to elsa!)

Whoever keeps deleting tasty's posts, can you leave them in here. At least while he's willing to have a proper conversation

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On that note, cool day at the tables today lmao. Party welcoming me to the site!



Priced me in good

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 5 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG (Hero): $231.77 (116 bb)
CO: $203.00 (102 bb)
BU: $376.61 (188 bb)
SB: $295.04 (148 bb)
BB: $203.00 (102 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero is UTG with A K
Hero raises to $4.10, 2 players fold, SB 3-bets to $20, 1 fold, Hero 4-bets to $46, SB calls $26

Flop: ($94) Q T 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $27.30, SB raises to $65.34, Hero calls $38.04

Turn: ($224.68) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $183.70 (all-in), Hero calls $120.43 (all-in)

River: ($465.54) 4 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $465.54 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
SB shows Q Q (three of a kind, Queens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 55%, Flop: 84%, Turn: 77%, River: 100%)

UTG (Hero) shows A K (high card, Ace)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 45%, Flop: 16%, Turn: 23%, River: 0%)

SB wins $462.54

Dream turn

partypoker, Hold'em No Limit - $1/$2 - 5 players
Hand delivered by Upswing Poker

UTG: $210.32 (105 bb)
CO: $302.70 (151 bb)
BU (Hero): $200.00 (100 bb)
SB: $362.18 (181 bb)
BB: $312.50 (156 bb)

Pre-Flop: ($3) Hero is BTN with 9 9
2 players fold, Hero raises to $4.10, SB 3-bets to $14, 1 fold, Hero calls $9.90

Flop: ($30) K 7 7 (2 players)
SB bets $14.25, Hero calls $14.25

Turn: ($58.50) 9 (2 players)
SB bets $33, Hero calls $33

River: ($124.50) J (2 players)
SB bets $142, Hero calls $138.75 (all-in)

Total pot: $402 (Rake: $3)

Showdown:
SB shows A 6 (a pair of Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 32%, Flop: 17%, Turn: 0%, River: 0%)

BU (Hero) shows 9 9 (a full house, Nines full of Sevens)
(Equity - Pre-Flop: 68%, Flop: 83%, Turn: 100%, River: 100%)

BU (Hero) wins $399

Back at it tomorrow!

glgl
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11-16-2018 , 09:48 PM
I feel bad for tasty. He had such a delusional thought process of how to play winning poker and when it all blew up in his face, because he was not a good player, he resorted to his terrible attitude to try and make himself feel better.

Then he got ousted from a community he was never really apart of and now resorts to troll accounts to try and boost his confidence by attxkkng others who are more successful than him. If he ever happens to read this, my honest piece of advice is to see a clinical psychologist. Dig deep into why he feels the need to do what he does and try to solve the core underlying issues there. Maybe if he can solve his mind he can have a shot at becoming a poker player
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11-16-2018 , 10:16 PM
Agree with the above. Tastyy bro, give it a break, take some time off to reevaluate your life and come to terms with where you're at. Maybe see a psychologist that knows what hes doing. Mainly give it a break though, especially from poker. Relax for a couple of days and just go to a park and chill or something. Find a decent job, get some stability into your life and likely your psychological health has also impacted your physical health so get that sorted by working on a proper sleep schedule, diet and exercise. GL
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11-17-2018 , 04:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
That said, I'm studying regularly, spending time with players who are have a better understanding of the game that me and taking my work very seriously (shoutout to elsa!)
Happy to hear
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11-17-2018 , 09:29 AM
Only just caught up for the first time in ages. The volcano photos are awesome! Best of luck for the rest of your travels and of course GLGL at the tables.
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11-17-2018 , 10:06 AM
Nice photos!

For what it's worth I think your doing really well in life and look happy. Having finished with uni while playing at the same time, being long time grinder at reasonable stakes with good results for several years I think there's nothing to be concerned about so much with this downswing.
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11-18-2018 , 05:52 PM
Why do you think party will be higher ev than asian sites? Also, where is extra 15k in rb coming from(diamond club gives 50% if I'm not mistaken). Gl, hope you crush next year
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11-18-2018 , 08:50 PM
Thanks for sharing those pics Ben. They really showed some of the true beauty in the world!!!

Inspiring me to plan out travelling more in the future.
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11-19-2018 , 12:00 AM
The long exposure pic is class and the hike looked amazing!
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11-19-2018 , 12:13 AM
I have a colleague at work who is big into photography so I showed him your volcano pic. We started talking about how cool long exposure was and he brought this up...



So yea don’t catch yourself on fire but I thought you’d enjoy and maybe want to try sometime.
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11-20-2018 , 02:36 PM
man, that streak, went to something kiiiiiiinda similar and it was really hard to go grind while running bad, playing well*. its like you expect it too go that way. We believe thoughts become reality(i do)so what I tried to do was changing the pattern of my thoughts. in practice is hard obv. But its something Ive read and put in practice.

what I did to rewire* my brain was saying 3 things Im grateful for at any given moment and as many times as possible during the day. that makes your brainwaves go in a diff direction (positive)

it doesnt happen over night but in a couple weeks youll deff feel some changes. and has many advantages, its free, its a good approach towards your life, and if you believe it works it works (as most of the things of the mind go), etc. gl dude, next time you guys wanna come to central america Im in Costa RIca
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11-23-2018 , 03:57 AM
Hi Ben,

we all know bots are rampant on 10-50nl on party, what do you think the situation is like at 200nl?
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11-23-2018 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueCollarPoker
I feel bad for tasty. He had such a delusional thought process of how to play winning poker and when it all blew up in his face, because he was not a good player, he resorted to his terrible attitude to try and make himself feel better.

Then he got ousted from a community he was never really apart of and now resorts to troll accounts to try and boost his confidence by attxkkng others who are more successful than him. If he ever happens to read this, my honest piece of advice is to see a clinical psychologist. Dig deep into why he feels the need to do what he does and try to solve the core underlying issues there. Maybe if he can solve his mind he can have a shot at becoming a poker player
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Originally Posted by CRAIBaby
Agree with the above. Tastyy bro, give it a break, take some time off to reevaluate your life and come to terms with where you're at. Maybe see a psychologist that knows what hes doing. Mainly give it a break though, especially from poker. Relax for a couple of days and just go to a park and chill or something. Find a decent job, get some stability into your life and likely your psychological health has also impacted your physical health so get that sorted by working on a proper sleep schedule, diet and exercise. GL
Yeah... it's a shame obviously, but super standard for an internet forum! I'm not sure who has these unreal ninja skills but within 5 mins of his posts anywhere, they're deleted and he's banned.

Fwiw, i doubt he'll take any advice from anyone in the forums. Probably gotta take responsibility himself.

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Originally Posted by Princess Elsa
Happy to hear
<3 yaas

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Originally Posted by LucasVienna
Only just caught up for the first time in ages. The volcano photos are awesome! Best of luck for the rest of your travels and of course GLGL at the tables.
Yo Lucas, thank you! Yeah, i'm super proud of the volcano pic, especially as an extreme novice when it comes to photography.

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Originally Posted by Kiljusieppo
Nice photos!

For what it's worth I think your doing really well in life and look happy. Having finished with uni while playing at the same time, being long time grinder at reasonable stakes with good results for several years I think there's nothing to be concerned about so much with this downswing.
Thanks for the kind words man. I totally agree, I'm doing pretty great in life and am certainly very happy. Downswings get me down of course, but going away to places like where i am/have been help to put things back into perspective.

I also have no doubt that i'll be back to winning ways again soon. Cheers for your support brother

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Originally Posted by megalomaniac23
Why do you think party will be higher ev than asian sites? Also, where is extra 15k in rb coming from(diamond club gives 50% if I'm not mistaken). Gl, hope you crush next year
I don't necessarily think it'll be higher EV in terms of hourly, however chinese games only really run in the european morning (well, the games that are worth playing). That would leave me with many hours in the afternoon where i wouldn't be playing.

As for the rb, it's 50% from party and 15% more from my affiliate deal. I hope i'm allowed to say that... :s

thank you!

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Originally Posted by DivineGlory
Thanks for sharing those pics Ben. They really showed some of the true beauty in the world!!!

Inspiring me to plan out travelling more in the future.
Ah man, you gotta do it. It really has been one of the best decisions i ever made. Hmu or post in here with your plans and maybe people can help with planning you a route!

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Originally Posted by z0mgtiltz
The long exposure pic is class and the hike looked amazing!
bzz, cheers mate. Loving taking photos

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Originally Posted by Avaritia
I have a colleague at work who is big into photography so I showed him your volcano pic. We started talking about how cool long exposure was and he brought this up...



So yea don’t catch yourself on fire but I thought you’d enjoy and maybe want to try sometime.
Wow, that was so so cool. I really wanna try that kinda **** out now. I'm unsure if my camera is good enough to take those kinda photos though. Thanks mate!

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Originally Posted by Don Melchor
man, that streak, went to something kiiiiiiinda similar and it was really hard to go grind while running bad, playing well*. its like you expect it too go that way. We believe thoughts become reality(i do)so what I tried to do was changing the pattern of my thoughts. in practice is hard obv. But its something Ive read and put in practice.

what I did to rewire* my brain was saying 3 things Im grateful for at any given moment and as many times as possible during the day. that makes your brainwaves go in a diff direction (positive)

it doesnt happen over night but in a couple weeks youll deff feel some changes. and has many advantages, its free, its a good approach towards your life, and if you believe it works it works (as most of the things of the mind go), etc. gl dude, next time you guys wanna come to central america Im in Costa RIca
Yeah man, it's a ****ing grim stretch, and tbh, one that seemingly isn't ending. I like the idea of the 3 things you're grateful for. I've actually been doing something a little similar. I've written a journal every single day i've been away from london and also meditated daily too. Without a doubt the longest period of time i've committed to meditation and journaling (well i have never journaled before, bar my weekly journal we had to do at uni).

I notice that the benefits are very subtle, as are most mindfulness techniques, but i do sense a lessened tension in my body and more of an accepting stance. That could also be attributed to being away from playing poker and not having that stress on my mind. Who knows! But I'm aiming to continue the meditation when i'm home.

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Originally Posted by Barry Urinstein
Seems semi-relevant to thread, R.I.P.:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...riend-1729111/
Such sad sad news. Thanks for posting marcel. Reminds me of what happened to Clairic back in the day.

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Originally Posted by iluvcats
Hi Ben,

we all know bots are rampant on 10-50nl on party, what do you think the situation is like at 200nl?
Hi mate. Erm, I am of course aware that there are bots on party, but it seems that the player pool/support are tightening up on cheaters.

I also have close friends (one of them being my housemate) who have crushed party for over 4 years. And that's all at 200nl-20knl. It is clearly very beatable. Admittedly they are better players than me, but you get what i mean.

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Currently in Palenque, a small town in the region of Chiapas. Here for one more day before heading to Mexico City for two days before flying home. I'm gunna wait till i've done a couple other touristy things there before making my last update of the trip.

Today i've been running numerous sims and putting together a new routine/grinding plan for when i return. Super pumped to work hard and get all the knowledge/$$$.

glglgl
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11-23-2018 , 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Barry Urinstein
Seems semi-relevant to thread, R.I.P.:

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/2...riend-1729111/
Dreadful news. RIP


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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
Today i've been running numerous sims and putting together a new routine/grinding plan for when i return. Super pumped to work hard and get all the knowledge/$$$.

glglgl

Really great to see you're still putting in the work on your vacation. Hope things turn out for the best when you get home!
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11-23-2018 , 07:02 PM
Sorry to see the run bad mate, but as always top attitude, gl in December.
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11-24-2018 , 11:30 AM
Curious re this party stuff Ben. You have any idea yet how many hands/vpp type things required to get the full RB? Achievable at 200nl or need higher? Rough estimates of hands? When is RB paid out etc? I literally know nothing. But rakeback is so so sweet so wouldn't hate looking at it myself!

Also if you know the rake paid in BB/100 at like 200nl there , or if anyone else does, lmk!
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11-24-2018 , 11:32 AM
possible at 200nl if u play a lot of hands.

1 point for 1usd rake so 100k rake. payday every sunday
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11-24-2018 , 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Mayox
possible at 200nl if u play a lot of hands.

1 point for 1usd rake so 100k rake. payday every sunday
Cool, sweet. any idea of rake bb/100 at that level?
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11-24-2018 , 03:03 PM
no sorry
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11-24-2018 , 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mayox
no sorry
Ik on sites like iPoker, even though they have high rakeback options available, you end up paying more rake in BB/100 in the first place, so it's not like you're really being rewarded at all.

Granted, I think 65% rakeback would be +EV even if the rake was one of the higher out there.
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11-24-2018 , 04:18 PM
At micros (NL5,10,25) it was around ~10 bb/100 IIRC.
At higher stakes it's probably lower but I don't think lower than 8

Lost the samples though so would be nice if someone could confirm

Last edited by Menace_2_Society; 11-24-2018 at 04:33 PM.
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11-24-2018 , 04:22 PM
I pay ~6.5bb/100 at 200z on ignition
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11-24-2018 , 04:28 PM
And now I found these two articles, however it's difficult to guess their ages

http://www.rakeback.com/poker-rake/c...vs-partypoker/

https://worldpokerdeals.com/blog/rak...poker-networks

Anyway I'm 100% sure Party has significantly higher rake than pokerstars, however assuming top rakeback status (50%+), which on stars doesn't exist no more, it should compensate it easily.
It will be better better to pay 7bb/100 rake with 50% rakeback rather than 5bb/100 with 0% at stars, but the gross winrate is also important here
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11-24-2018 , 04:49 PM
Cool. 2.5bb/100 on Pokermater FYI, master race checking in.
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