Mastering Mental Game and Mental Health
Originally Posted by Slugant
why do you think the qj was a bad bluff?
why do you think the qj was a bad bluff?
OP why are you flatting 3bets with QQ vs short stacks? lulz
"White Fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes
intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves. These moves include
the outward display of emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt, and behaviors such
as argumentation, silence, and leaving the stress-inducing situation."
intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves. These moves include
the outward display of emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt, and behaviors such
as argumentation, silence, and leaving the stress-inducing situation."
Or maybe white-privilege is marxist nonsense and is quite easily exposed as such, so instead of engaging in healthy debate with those who oppose the idea, many of the people advocating and promoting white-privilege have pathologised the arguments against it to perniciously discredit their opponents and, in the eyes of the more extreme proponents/manipulable supporters, eliminate the need for a debate entirely? Why argue the merits of your righteous ideology when your opponents are clearly suffering from white-fragility...
Or maybe white-privilege is marxist nonsense and is quite easily exposed as such, so instead of engaging in healthy debate with those who oppose the idea, many of the people advocating and promoting white-privilege have pathologised the arguments against it to perniciously discredit their opponents and, in the eyes of the more extreme proponents/manipulable supporters, eliminate the need for a debate entirely? Why argue the merits of your righteous ideology when your opponents are clearly suffering from white-fragility...
\derail
You guys know that Ben is only like 75% white, right?
Pahaha excellent
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multiple things i dislike about these two posts
Having Qh is very hurtful. Without it would be fine. It could be arguably ok exploitably anyway, until he calls AT, then it's atrocious!
this
i know
Interesting perspective. Can you explain why it's nonsense?
I realise that it's probably a very dangerous idea having this kinda debate over the internet, especially since i haven't read the entire book. I'd also like time to decide where i land wrt to the concept of white fragility as oppose to going into something all guns blazing.
I do find it your post on this topic interesting though and actually wanna hear more if you're willing.
you're a smart cookie, i'm sure you can figure it out!
Was this even a joke gaz? Can also confirm that i'm actually only half white
race chat innit. Well, actually, just me posting the cover of a book
haha ffs
Can a mod please ban smb from posting here ty
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Pretty swingy day today. Lost about 3k on other sites, yeye
lol from good reg
kid got heart
unreal rec taking me to the cleaners
vs reg
vs reg. Call 7h7c ever?
Clients tomorrow so no grind.
glgl
Imo its a spot where OP can show with strong hands and be balanced, and QJo is a decent bluff(maybe not with the H blocker though).
But usually in that spot, population is full of crap and most opponents that are capable to realize that will underfold, so OP has a lot of incentive to have 0 bluffs in that spot.
I think thats what he meant as a bad bluff. Its usually not a good idea to bluff in that spot just for the sake of balance.
And wtf is that book, man ._. Dont you prefer reading cool stuff like brave new world? Or even comics/manga lol.
I can send you harrington 6 max book and dnegs small ball poker(his second book) very interesting reads that will take your game to the next level lol!!!
But usually in that spot, population is full of crap and most opponents that are capable to realize that will underfold, so OP has a lot of incentive to have 0 bluffs in that spot.
I think thats what he meant as a bad bluff. Its usually not a good idea to bluff in that spot just for the sake of balance.
And wtf is that book, man ._. Dont you prefer reading cool stuff like brave new world? Or even comics/manga lol.
I can send you harrington 6 max book and dnegs small ball poker(his second book) very interesting reads that will take your game to the next level lol!!!
this
i know
"White Fragility is a state in which even a minimum amount of racial stress becomes
intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves. These moves include
the outward display of emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt, and behaviors such
as argumentation, silence, and leaving the stress-inducing situation."
Never heard of this book and was surprised by the response(unless this is inside joke, that I'm outside of). Fairly short summary available here
https://libjournal.uncg.edu/ijcp/art...ewFile/249/116
intolerable, triggering a range of defensive moves. These moves include
the outward display of emotions such as anger, fear, and guilt, and behaviors such
as argumentation, silence, and leaving the stress-inducing situation."
Never heard of this book and was surprised by the response(unless this is inside joke, that I'm outside of). Fairly short summary available here
https://libjournal.uncg.edu/ijcp/art...ewFile/249/116
Or maybe white-privilege is marxist nonsense and is quite easily exposed as such, so instead of engaging in healthy debate with those who oppose the idea, many of the people advocating and promoting white-privilege have pathologised the arguments against it to perniciously discredit their opponents and, in the eyes of the more extreme proponents/manipulable supporters, eliminate the need for a debate entirely? Why argue the merits of your righteous ideology when your opponents are clearly suffering from white-fragility...
I do find it your post on this topic interesting though and actually wanna hear more if you're willing.
you're a smart cookie, i'm sure you can figure it out!
Was this even a joke gaz? Can also confirm that i'm actually only half white
race chat innit. Well, actually, just me posting the cover of a book
haha ffs
Can a mod please ban smb from posting here ty
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Pretty swingy day today. Lost about 3k on other sites, yeye
lol from good reg
Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935306
BTN: $600 (100 bb)
SB: $632.14 (105.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $1,005.45 (167.6 bb)
UTG: $606 (101 bb)
MP: $576.64 (96.1 bb)
CO: $641.52 (106.9 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
2 folds, CO calls $6, BTN folds, SB raises to $24, Hero calls $18, CO folds
Flop: ($54) 2 9 6 (2 players)
SB bets $16.93, Hero calls $16.93
Turn: ($87.86) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $63.27, SB calls $63.27
River: ($214.40) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $158.18, SB calls $158.18
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935306
BTN: $600 (100 bb)
SB: $632.14 (105.4 bb)
Hero (BB): $1,005.45 (167.6 bb)
UTG: $606 (101 bb)
MP: $576.64 (96.1 bb)
CO: $641.52 (106.9 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BB with T T
2 folds, CO calls $6, BTN folds, SB raises to $24, Hero calls $18, CO folds
Flop: ($54) 2 9 6 (2 players)
SB bets $16.93, Hero calls $16.93
Turn: ($87.86) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $63.27, SB calls $63.27
River: ($214.40) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $158.18, SB calls $158.18
Spoiler:
Results: $530.76 pot ($3.50 rake)
Final Board: 2 9 6 6 T
SB mucked A Q and lost (-$262.38 net)
Hero showed T T and won $527.26 ($264.88 net)
Final Board: 2 9 6 6 T
SB mucked A Q and lost (-$262.38 net)
Hero showed T T and won $527.26 ($264.88 net)
kid got heart
Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935307
Hero (SB): $629.66 (104.9 bb)
BB: $656.20 (109.4 bb)
UTG+1: $126 (21 bb)
UTG+2: $782 (130.3 bb)
MP1: $647.50 (107.9 bb)
MP2: $600 (100 bb)
MP3: $270.29 (45 bb)
CO: $603 (100.5 bb)
BTN: $620.11 (103.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K T
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $18, 5 folds, Hero raises to $60, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $42
Flop: ($126) 9 K 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $40.42, UTG+2 raises to $98.84, Hero calls $58.42
Turn: ($323.68) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $198, Hero calls $198
River: ($719.68) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $300, Hero calls $272.82
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935307
Hero (SB): $629.66 (104.9 bb)
BB: $656.20 (109.4 bb)
UTG+1: $126 (21 bb)
UTG+2: $782 (130.3 bb)
MP1: $647.50 (107.9 bb)
MP2: $600 (100 bb)
MP3: $270.29 (45 bb)
CO: $603 (100.5 bb)
BTN: $620.11 (103.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with K T
UTG+1 folds, UTG+2 raises to $18, 5 folds, Hero raises to $60, BB folds, UTG+2 calls $42
Flop: ($126) 9 K 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $40.42, UTG+2 raises to $98.84, Hero calls $58.42
Turn: ($323.68) 7 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $198, Hero calls $198
River: ($719.68) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG+2 bets $300, Hero calls $272.82
Spoiler:
Results: $1,265.32 pot ($3.50 rake)
Final Board: 9 K 3 7 6
Hero showed K T and won $1,261.82 ($632.16 net)
UTG+2 showed 5 A and lost (-$629.66 net)
Final Board: 9 K 3 7 6
Hero showed K T and won $1,261.82 ($632.16 net)
UTG+2 showed 5 A and lost (-$629.66 net)
unreal rec taking me to the cleaners
Poker Stars, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935308
SB: $427.52 (42.8 bb)
BB: $1,022.98 (102.3 bb)
Hero (UTG): $1,000 (100 bb)
MP: $1,027.30 (102.7 bb)
CO: $1,000 (100 bb)
BTN: $1,000 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3 A
Hero raises to $20.50, 2 folds, BTN raises to $46.26, SB folds, BB calls $36.26, Hero calls $25.76
Flop: ($143.78) 2 3 2 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $64.75, BB folds, Hero calls $64.75
Turn: ($273.28) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $124.32, Hero calls $124.32
River: ($521.92) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $238.70, Hero calls $238.70
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935308
SB: $427.52 (42.8 bb)
BB: $1,022.98 (102.3 bb)
Hero (UTG): $1,000 (100 bb)
MP: $1,027.30 (102.7 bb)
CO: $1,000 (100 bb)
BTN: $1,000 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is UTG with 3 A
Hero raises to $20.50, 2 folds, BTN raises to $46.26, SB folds, BB calls $36.26, Hero calls $25.76
Flop: ($143.78) 2 3 2 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets $64.75, BB folds, Hero calls $64.75
Turn: ($273.28) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $124.32, Hero calls $124.32
River: ($521.92) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, BTN bets $238.70, Hero calls $238.70
Spoiler:
Results: $999.32 pot ($3.00 rake)
Final Board: 2 3 2 8 2
Hero mucked 3 A and lost (-$474.03 net)
BTN showed 8 7 and won $996.32 ($522.29 net)
Final Board: 2 3 2 8 2
Hero mucked 3 A and lost (-$474.03 net)
BTN showed 8 7 and won $996.32 ($522.29 net)
vs reg
Poker Stars, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935309
Hero (MP): $1,036.50 (103.7 bb)
CO: $1,182.50 (118.3 bb)
BTN: $6,086.35 (608.6 bb)
SB: $2,263.66 (226.4 bb)
BB: $1,127.62 (112.8 bb)
UTG: $1,000 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 8 J
UTG folds, Hero raises to $20.50, 3 folds, BB calls $10.50
Flop: ($46) 2 5 J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14.50, BB raises to $61.90, Hero calls $47.40
Turn: ($169.80) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
River: ($169.80) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $297.04, Hero calls $297.04
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935309
Hero (MP): $1,036.50 (103.7 bb)
CO: $1,182.50 (118.3 bb)
BTN: $6,086.35 (608.6 bb)
SB: $2,263.66 (226.4 bb)
BB: $1,127.62 (112.8 bb)
UTG: $1,000 (100 bb)
Preflop: Hero is MP with 8 J
UTG folds, Hero raises to $20.50, 3 folds, BB calls $10.50
Flop: ($46) 2 5 J (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $14.50, BB raises to $61.90, Hero calls $47.40
Turn: ($169.80) K (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks
River: ($169.80) 9 (2 players)
BB bets $297.04, Hero calls $297.04
Spoiler:
Results: $763.88 pot ($3.00 rake)
Final Board: 2 5 J K 9
Hero showed 8 J and won $760.88 ($381.44 net)
BB showed 6 T and lost (-$379.44 net)
Final Board: 2 5 J K 9
Hero showed 8 J and won $760.88 ($381.44 net)
BB showed 6 T and lost (-$379.44 net)
vs reg. Call 7h7c ever?
Poker Stars, $5/$10 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935310
BTN: $1,000 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $1,000 (100 bb)
BB: $1,027.30 (102.7 bb)
MP: $1,000 (100 bb)
CO: $1,522.29 (152.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 7
3 folds, Hero raises to $30, BB calls $20
Flop: ($60) 4 4 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $29.80, BB raises to $88.25, Hero calls $58.45
Turn: ($236.50) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $233.50, Hero calls $233.50
River: ($703.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $439.34, Hero folds
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935310
BTN: $1,000 (100 bb)
Hero (SB): $1,000 (100 bb)
BB: $1,027.30 (102.7 bb)
MP: $1,000 (100 bb)
CO: $1,522.29 (152.2 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with 7 7
3 folds, Hero raises to $30, BB calls $20
Flop: ($60) 4 4 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $29.80, BB raises to $88.25, Hero calls $58.45
Turn: ($236.50) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $233.50, Hero calls $233.50
River: ($703.50) 3 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $439.34, Hero folds
Spoiler:
Results: $703.50 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 4 4 3 6 3
Hero mucked 7 7 and lost (-$351.75 net)
BB mucked and won $700.50 ($348.75 net)
Final Board: 4 4 3 6 3
Hero mucked 7 7 and lost (-$351.75 net)
BB mucked and won $700.50 ($348.75 net)
Clients tomorrow so no grind.
glgl
I can explain but I'm not sure if you or many of the readers here would want the thread to go down that path.
If your'e genuinely interested then we can move this convo to skype or something..
If your'e genuinely interested then we can move this convo to skype or something..
Like the above poster says, I can flesh out my thoughts in greater detail than I will below, although I'm also not sure this is the right place and consider it a potential lapse of judgement on my part for using this forum as a place to pass comment on the matter.
One thing I will re-iterate though is that I do firmly believe white-privilege (at least in the form that many vociferous proponents understand it), is an inherently racist ideology. It essentially seeks to address a (possibly perceived) societal inequality by condemning an entire group of people based on skin-colour and the crimes of their ancestors, and gives little to no consideration to the vast amount of random, non-race based differences that are more likely to create inequality and "privilege" for a select few.
Whilst this is clearly a crude example, a good looking, above average IQ, socially adept black person from a solid family is clearly, through no fault of their own, greatly advantaged over a white person from a poor background with the opposite traits. And yet, the doctrine of white-privilege assumes that the white person has some inherent advantage over the black person merely for being white, whilst largely ignoring the vast array of other factors that are more likely to lead to inequality.
Whilst there are many highly intelligent people who may present their ideas in a way that isn't immediately dangerous, I see little meaningful difference between the supportive furore generated for left/far-left ideas like white-privilege, and the intense support right/far-right ideas like ethno-nationalism have the power to create. Both sets of ideas are equally dangerous in their ability to create ideologues and tear down societies; the key difference being that white-privilege and other way left of centre ideologies seem to have a degree of social-acceptability and institutional power (professors, celebrities endorsing it, etc) whereas the way right of centre ideas are much more widely seen as abhorrent. In a way that makes the far-left ideas more dangerous at this point in time.
I think the superior social-acceptability of far-left ideas exists because the potentially devastating consequences of far-right ideology are way easier to identify and recognise, especially when using historical comparisons. The dangers of far-left thinking are much more subtle, but you don't need to be a big history buff to understand that extreme, ideologically possessed politics on both sides of the spectrum led to some of the most unimaginable occurrences in modern human history during the 20th century.
I've already written way more than I set out to but feel free to get in touch and we can discuss things further. I'm also open to looking into the matter more to see if my understanding is misguided, but my read on the situation is that the whole white-privilege/BLM type movements are marketed as tools for tackling inequality, when in actual fact they are tools for division along racial lines. Pretty scary ****.
One thing I will re-iterate though is that I do firmly believe white-privilege (at least in the form that many vociferous proponents understand it), is an inherently racist ideology. It essentially seeks to address a (possibly perceived) societal inequality by condemning an entire group of people based on skin-colour and the crimes of their ancestors, and gives little to no consideration to the vast amount of random, non-race based differences that are more likely to create inequality and "privilege" for a select few.
Whilst this is clearly a crude example, a good looking, above average IQ, socially adept black person from a solid family is clearly, through no fault of their own, greatly advantaged over a white person from a poor background with the opposite traits. And yet, the doctrine of white-privilege assumes that the white person has some inherent advantage over the black person merely for being white, whilst largely ignoring the vast array of other factors that are more likely to lead to inequality.
Whilst there are many highly intelligent people who may present their ideas in a way that isn't immediately dangerous, I see little meaningful difference between the supportive furore generated for left/far-left ideas like white-privilege, and the intense support right/far-right ideas like ethno-nationalism have the power to create. Both sets of ideas are equally dangerous in their ability to create ideologues and tear down societies; the key difference being that white-privilege and other way left of centre ideologies seem to have a degree of social-acceptability and institutional power (professors, celebrities endorsing it, etc) whereas the way right of centre ideas are much more widely seen as abhorrent. In a way that makes the far-left ideas more dangerous at this point in time.
I think the superior social-acceptability of far-left ideas exists because the potentially devastating consequences of far-right ideology are way easier to identify and recognise, especially when using historical comparisons. The dangers of far-left thinking are much more subtle, but you don't need to be a big history buff to understand that extreme, ideologically possessed politics on both sides of the spectrum led to some of the most unimaginable occurrences in modern human history during the 20th century.
I've already written way more than I set out to but feel free to get in touch and we can discuss things further. I'm also open to looking into the matter more to see if my understanding is misguided, but my read on the situation is that the whole white-privilege/BLM type movements are marketed as tools for tackling inequality, when in actual fact they are tools for division along racial lines. Pretty scary ****.
Haha yes it was genuinely didn't know you considered yourself half white though, despite knowing your heritage I would've thought you thought you were 100% white...
Like the above poster says, I can flesh out my thoughts in greater detail than I will below, although I'm also not sure this is the right place and consider it a potential lapse of judgement on my part for using this forum as a place to pass comment on the matter.
One thing I will re-iterate though is that I do firmly believe white-privilege (at least in the form that many vociferous proponents understand it), is an inherently racist ideology. It essentially seeks to address a (possibly perceived) societal inequality by condemning an entire group of people based on skin-colour and the crimes of their ancestors, and gives little to no consideration to the vast amount of random, non-race based differences that are more likely to create inequality and "privilege" for a select few.
Whilst this is clearly a crude example, a good looking, above average IQ, socially adept black person from a solid family is clearly, through no fault of their own, greatly advantaged over a white person from a poor background with the opposite traits. And yet, the doctrine of white-privilege assumes that the white person has some inherent advantage over the black person merely for being white, whilst largely ignoring the vast array of other factors that are more likely to lead to inequality.
Whilst there are many highly intelligent people who may present their ideas in a way that isn't immediately dangerous, I see little meaningful difference between the supportive furore generated for left/far-left ideas like white-privilege, and the intense support right/far-right ideas like ethno-nationalism have the power to create. Both sets of ideas are equally dangerous in their ability to create ideologues and tear down societies; the key difference being that white-privilege and other way left of centre ideologies seem to have a degree of social-acceptability and institutional power (professors, celebrities endorsing it, etc) whereas the way right of centre ideas are much more widely seen as abhorrent. In a way that makes the far-left ideas more dangerous at this point in time.
I think the superior social-acceptability of far-left ideas exists because the potentially devastating consequences of far-right ideology are way easier to identify and recognise, especially when using historical comparisons. The dangers of far-left thinking are much more subtle, but you don't need to be a big history buff to understand that extreme, ideologically possessed politics on both sides of the spectrum led to some of the most unimaginable occurrences in modern human history during the 20th century.
I've already written way more than I set out to but feel free to get in touch and we can discuss things further. I'm also open to looking into the matter more to see if my understanding is misguided, but my read on the situation is that the whole white-privilege/BLM type movements are marketed as tools for tackling inequality, when in actual fact they are tools for division along racial lines. Pretty scary ****.
One thing I will re-iterate though is that I do firmly believe white-privilege (at least in the form that many vociferous proponents understand it), is an inherently racist ideology. It essentially seeks to address a (possibly perceived) societal inequality by condemning an entire group of people based on skin-colour and the crimes of their ancestors, and gives little to no consideration to the vast amount of random, non-race based differences that are more likely to create inequality and "privilege" for a select few.
Whilst this is clearly a crude example, a good looking, above average IQ, socially adept black person from a solid family is clearly, through no fault of their own, greatly advantaged over a white person from a poor background with the opposite traits. And yet, the doctrine of white-privilege assumes that the white person has some inherent advantage over the black person merely for being white, whilst largely ignoring the vast array of other factors that are more likely to lead to inequality.
Whilst there are many highly intelligent people who may present their ideas in a way that isn't immediately dangerous, I see little meaningful difference between the supportive furore generated for left/far-left ideas like white-privilege, and the intense support right/far-right ideas like ethno-nationalism have the power to create. Both sets of ideas are equally dangerous in their ability to create ideologues and tear down societies; the key difference being that white-privilege and other way left of centre ideologies seem to have a degree of social-acceptability and institutional power (professors, celebrities endorsing it, etc) whereas the way right of centre ideas are much more widely seen as abhorrent. In a way that makes the far-left ideas more dangerous at this point in time.
I think the superior social-acceptability of far-left ideas exists because the potentially devastating consequences of far-right ideology are way easier to identify and recognise, especially when using historical comparisons. The dangers of far-left thinking are much more subtle, but you don't need to be a big history buff to understand that extreme, ideologically possessed politics on both sides of the spectrum led to some of the most unimaginable occurrences in modern human history during the 20th century.
I've already written way more than I set out to but feel free to get in touch and we can discuss things further. I'm also open to looking into the matter more to see if my understanding is misguided, but my read on the situation is that the whole white-privilege/BLM type movements are marketed as tools for tackling inequality, when in actual fact they are tools for division along racial lines. Pretty scary ****.
you're a smart cookie, i'm sure you can figure it out!
I didn't read the post in question, but this post coupled with the username is actual 10/10 bants
scared of AA
So you're saying that a black man who is successful, wealthy, well-connected, famous, living in a nice neighbourhood is immune from the prejudices inherent to their being part of an historically disadvantaged group... I say...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-gunpoint-home
This is just one example counter to that from the last few days.
Don't want to contribute to a derail if the consensus is to leave this but I think this is one of the more important issues of current social change, and OP brought it up, so I thought I'd try to balance things out a bit as most posts seem to be critical to OP's willingness to consider the issue of white privilege.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-gunpoint-home
This is just one example counter to that from the last few days.
Don't want to contribute to a derail if the consensus is to leave this but I think this is one of the more important issues of current social change, and OP brought it up, so I thought I'd try to balance things out a bit as most posts seem to be critical to OP's willingness to consider the issue of white privilege.
Like the above poster says, I can flesh out my thoughts in greater detail than I will below, although I'm also not sure this is the right place and consider it a potential lapse of judgement on my part for using this forum as a place to pass comment on the matter.
One thing I will re-iterate though is that I do firmly believe white-privilege (at least in the form that many vociferous proponents understand it), is an inherently racist ideology. It essentially seeks to address a (possibly perceived) societal inequality by condemning an entire group of people based on skin-colour and the crimes of their ancestors, and gives little to no consideration to the vast amount of random, non-race based differences that are more likely to create inequality and "privilege" for a select few.
Whilst this is clearly a crude example, a good looking, above average IQ, socially adept black person from a solid family is clearly, through no fault of their own, greatly advantaged over a white person from a poor background with the opposite traits. And yet, the doctrine of white-privilege assumes that the white person has some inherent advantage over the black person merely for being white, whilst largely ignoring the vast array of other factors that are more likely to lead to inequality.
Whilst there are many highly intelligent people who may present their ideas in a way that isn't immediately dangerous, I see little meaningful difference between the supportive furore generated for left/far-left ideas like white-privilege, and the intense support right/far-right ideas like ethno-nationalism have the power to create. Both sets of ideas are equally dangerous in their ability to create ideologues and tear down societies; the key difference being that white-privilege and other way left of centre ideologies seem to have a degree of social-acceptability and institutional power (professors, celebrities endorsing it, etc) whereas the way right of centre ideas are much more widely seen as abhorrent. In a way that makes the far-left ideas more dangerous at this point in time.
I think the superior social-acceptability of far-left ideas exists because the potentially devastating consequences of far-right ideology are way easier to identify and recognise, especially when using historical comparisons. The dangers of far-left thinking are much more subtle, but you don't need to be a big history buff to understand that extreme, ideologically possessed politics on both sides of the spectrum led to some of the most unimaginable occurrences in modern human history during the 20th century.
I've already written way more than I set out to but feel free to get in touch and we can discuss things further. I'm also open to looking into the matter more to see if my understanding is misguided, but my read on the situation is that the whole white-privilege/BLM type movements are marketed as tools for tackling inequality, when in actual fact they are tools for division along racial lines. Pretty scary ****.
One thing I will re-iterate though is that I do firmly believe white-privilege (at least in the form that many vociferous proponents understand it), is an inherently racist ideology. It essentially seeks to address a (possibly perceived) societal inequality by condemning an entire group of people based on skin-colour and the crimes of their ancestors, and gives little to no consideration to the vast amount of random, non-race based differences that are more likely to create inequality and "privilege" for a select few.
Whilst this is clearly a crude example, a good looking, above average IQ, socially adept black person from a solid family is clearly, through no fault of their own, greatly advantaged over a white person from a poor background with the opposite traits. And yet, the doctrine of white-privilege assumes that the white person has some inherent advantage over the black person merely for being white, whilst largely ignoring the vast array of other factors that are more likely to lead to inequality.
Whilst there are many highly intelligent people who may present their ideas in a way that isn't immediately dangerous, I see little meaningful difference between the supportive furore generated for left/far-left ideas like white-privilege, and the intense support right/far-right ideas like ethno-nationalism have the power to create. Both sets of ideas are equally dangerous in their ability to create ideologues and tear down societies; the key difference being that white-privilege and other way left of centre ideologies seem to have a degree of social-acceptability and institutional power (professors, celebrities endorsing it, etc) whereas the way right of centre ideas are much more widely seen as abhorrent. In a way that makes the far-left ideas more dangerous at this point in time.
I think the superior social-acceptability of far-left ideas exists because the potentially devastating consequences of far-right ideology are way easier to identify and recognise, especially when using historical comparisons. The dangers of far-left thinking are much more subtle, but you don't need to be a big history buff to understand that extreme, ideologically possessed politics on both sides of the spectrum led to some of the most unimaginable occurrences in modern human history during the 20th century.
I've already written way more than I set out to but feel free to get in touch and we can discuss things further. I'm also open to looking into the matter more to see if my understanding is misguided, but my read on the situation is that the whole white-privilege/BLM type movements are marketed as tools for tackling inequality, when in actual fact they are tools for division along racial lines. Pretty scary ****.
Thanks for taking the time - it's good for me to collate a whole load of different bits of information so as to make a well rounded opinion of my own.
haha A+
you got it mate! well done
and obviously ALWAYS scared of AA
So you're saying that a black man who is successful, wealthy, well-connected, famous, living in a nice neighbourhood is immune from the prejudices inherent to their being part of an historically disadvantaged group... I say...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-gunpoint-home
This is just one example counter to that from the last few days.
Don't want to contribute to a derail if the consensus is to leave this but I think this is one of the more important issues of current social change, and OP brought it up, so I thought I'd try to balance things out a bit as most posts seem to be critical to OP's willingness to consider the issue of white privilege.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-gunpoint-home
This is just one example counter to that from the last few days.
Don't want to contribute to a derail if the consensus is to leave this but I think this is one of the more important issues of current social change, and OP brought it up, so I thought I'd try to balance things out a bit as most posts seem to be critical to OP's willingness to consider the issue of white privilege.
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500z was great today so i put in the first session of August. Unfortunately i got rekt in most all ins and got every bluff called!
vs my pig friend ishter. tank calls the river like a god, and by god, i mean dog. Tough spot m8
Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935362
BTN: $581.27 (116.3 bb)
Hero (SB): $680.23 (136 bb)
BB: $1,321.83 (264.4 bb)
UTG: $562.08 (112.4 bb)
MP: $526.89 (105.4 bb)
CO: $2,218.91 (443.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q J
UTG raises to $11.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $50, BB folds, UTG calls $38.90
Flop: ($105) 6 A 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $20.50, UTG calls $20.50
Turn: ($146) T (2 players)
Hero bets $107.25, UTG calls $107.25
River: ($360.50) J (2 players)
Hero bets $502.48 and is all-in, UTG calls $384.33
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935362
BTN: $581.27 (116.3 bb)
Hero (SB): $680.23 (136 bb)
BB: $1,321.83 (264.4 bb)
UTG: $562.08 (112.4 bb)
MP: $526.89 (105.4 bb)
CO: $2,218.91 (443.8 bb)
Preflop: Hero is SB with Q J
UTG raises to $11.10, 3 folds, Hero raises to $50, BB folds, UTG calls $38.90
Flop: ($105) 6 A 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $20.50, UTG calls $20.50
Turn: ($146) T (2 players)
Hero bets $107.25, UTG calls $107.25
River: ($360.50) J (2 players)
Hero bets $502.48 and is all-in, UTG calls $384.33
Spoiler:
Results: $1,129.16 pot ($3.00 rake)
Final Board: 6 A 4 T J
Hero showed Q J and lost (-$562.08 net)
UTG showed 6 6 and won $1,126.16 ($564.08 net)
Final Board: 6 A 4 T J
Hero showed Q J and lost (-$562.08 net)
UTG showed 6 6 and won $1,126.16 ($564.08 net)
sick vs humongous rec
Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935363
BTN: $394.54 (78.9 bb)
SB: $520 (104 bb)
BB: $557 (111.4 bb)
UTG: $500 (100 bb)
MP: $483.54 (96.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $1,041.75 (208.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with J A
2 folds, Hero raises to $10.25, BTN calls $10.25, SB folds, BB calls $5.25
Flop: ($33.25) J A 3 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16.43, BTN calls $16.43, BB raises to $65, Hero calls $48.57, BTN calls $48.57
Turn: ($228.25) T (3 players)
BB bets $177.95, Hero calls $177.95, BTN folds
River: ($584.15) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $303.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $303.80
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935363
BTN: $394.54 (78.9 bb)
SB: $520 (104 bb)
BB: $557 (111.4 bb)
UTG: $500 (100 bb)
MP: $483.54 (96.7 bb)
Hero (CO): $1,041.75 (208.4 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with J A
2 folds, Hero raises to $10.25, BTN calls $10.25, SB folds, BB calls $5.25
Flop: ($33.25) J A 3 (3 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $16.43, BTN calls $16.43, BB raises to $65, Hero calls $48.57, BTN calls $48.57
Turn: ($228.25) T (3 players)
BB bets $177.95, Hero calls $177.95, BTN folds
River: ($584.15) 7 (2 players)
BB bets $303.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $303.80
Spoiler:
Results: $1,191.75 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: J A 3 T 7
BB showed 3 3 and won $1,188.75 ($631.75 net)
Hero showed J A and lost (-$557 net)
Final Board: J A 3 T 7
BB showed 3 3 and won $1,188.75 ($631.75 net)
Hero showed J A and lost (-$557 net)
vs different, but equally bad rec. Would value shove TT+ here. Maybe i should just have no bluffs otr once he calls turn. guess i win sometimes vs turned smaller fd's and 67's
Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935364
Hero (BTN): $500 (100 bb)
SB: $1,012.94 (202.6 bb)
BB: $622.46 (124.5 bb)
UTG: $430 (86 bb)
MP: $1,805.12 (361 bb)
CO: $1,300.54 (260.1 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 K
UTG folds, MP raises to $12, CO folds, Hero raises to $37.50, 2 folds, MP calls $25.50
Flop: ($82.50) 5 2 4 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $26.24, MP calls $26.24
Turn: ($134.98) J (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $98.99, MP calls $98.99
River: ($332.96) 5 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $337.27 and is all-in, MP calls $337.27
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935364
Hero (BTN): $500 (100 bb)
SB: $1,012.94 (202.6 bb)
BB: $622.46 (124.5 bb)
UTG: $430 (86 bb)
MP: $1,805.12 (361 bb)
CO: $1,300.54 (260.1 bb)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 9 K
UTG folds, MP raises to $12, CO folds, Hero raises to $37.50, 2 folds, MP calls $25.50
Flop: ($82.50) 5 2 4 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $26.24, MP calls $26.24
Turn: ($134.98) J (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $98.99, MP calls $98.99
River: ($332.96) 5 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $337.27 and is all-in, MP calls $337.27
Spoiler:
Results: $1,007.50 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: 5 2 4 J 5
Hero showed 9 K and lost (-$500 net)
MP showed 6 4 and won $1,004.50 ($504.50 net)
Final Board: 5 2 4 J 5
Hero showed 9 K and lost (-$500 net)
MP showed 6 4 and won $1,004.50 ($504.50 net)
This was a shut-your-eyes-and-shove vs weak new reg/rec thing. Gave me the full time bank fold
Poker Stars, $2.50/$5 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935365
BTN: $539.74 (107.9 bb)
SB: $626.14 (125.2 bb)
BB: $519.14 (103.8 bb)
UTG: $3,469.91 (694 bb)
MP: $510.10 (102 bb)
Hero (CO): $948.60 (189.7 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with J 9
2 folds, Hero raises to $10.25, BTN folds, SB raises to $50, BB folds, Hero calls $39.75
Flop: ($105) J A 7 (2 players)
SB bets $31.62, Hero calls $31.62
Turn: ($168.24) K (2 players)
SB bets $135.58, Hero calls $135.58
River: ($439.40) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $654.60, SB folds
Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37935365
BTN: $539.74 (107.9 bb)
SB: $626.14 (125.2 bb)
BB: $519.14 (103.8 bb)
UTG: $3,469.91 (694 bb)
MP: $510.10 (102 bb)
Hero (CO): $948.60 (189.7 bb)
Preflop: Hero is CO with J 9
2 folds, Hero raises to $10.25, BTN folds, SB raises to $50, BB folds, Hero calls $39.75
Flop: ($105) J A 7 (2 players)
SB bets $31.62, Hero calls $31.62
Turn: ($168.24) K (2 players)
SB bets $135.58, Hero calls $135.58
River: ($439.40) T (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $654.60, SB folds
Spoiler:
Results: $439.40 pot ($3 rake)
Final Board: J A 7 K T
SB mucked and lost (-$217.20 net)
Hero mucked J 9 and won $436.40 ($219.20 net)
Final Board: J A 7 K T
SB mucked and lost (-$217.20 net)
Hero mucked J 9 and won $436.40 ($219.20 net)
Same again tomorrow but hopefully with some wins to report. I tell you what, posting a losing graph 6/7 days is absolutely no fun
glgl
EDIT:
Here are some goals for August.
[ ] A game
[ ] 40k hands
[ ] Win some thrice cash off 464 to celebrate his birthday
[ ] Cash EPT (or whatever it is now) Barca
[ ] Finish reading white fragility book
Heading to Vienna around the 25th for the birthday then flying straight to barca for the series, beach and partying. Intend on playing the 5k and possibly the 1+2k IPT events
So you're saying that a black man who is successful, wealthy, well-connected, famous, living in a nice neighbourhood is immune from the prejudices inherent to their being part of an historically disadvantaged group... I say...
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-gunpoint-home
This is just one example counter to that from the last few days.
Don't want to contribute to a derail if the consensus is to leave this but I think this is one of the more important issues of current social change, and OP brought it up, so I thought I'd try to balance things out a bit as most posts seem to be critical to OP's willingness to consider the issue of white privilege.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...-gunpoint-home
This is just one example counter to that from the last few days.
Don't want to contribute to a derail if the consensus is to leave this but I think this is one of the more important issues of current social change, and OP brought it up, so I thought I'd try to balance things out a bit as most posts seem to be critical to OP's willingness to consider the issue of white privilege.
Love your 3D and you seem such a nice person! Which origins do you have if I might ask?
This can only mean one thing imo...
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
Loool.
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Spoiler:
Get the tableeee
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Some food for thought here definitely. There are certain aspects, particularly the opening example that while i can see the logic, it feels to wildly miss some extremely important elements for consideration.
Thanks for taking the time - it's good for me to collate a whole load of different bits of information so as to make a well rounded opinion of my own.
Ye fair enough man. Obv the whole concept cannot be proven or disproved with a silly hypothetical situation comparing a mere two individuals. Whether it exists or doesn't, it's far too complex for that.
I've spoken with Lucas privately and have asked him to maybe send me a lecture or podcast on the subject. I've heard extensive speeches by Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson and I found their arguments against WP compelling. However, it seems the supporters I've heard haven't been such masterful public speakers / debaters like the two mentioned so it's hardly a fair debate being created in my mind.
If you know of any debates or speeches that I can listen to in favour of WP I'd really like that. Fully open to the possibility I've got it wrong and can be convinced so.
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/gina-...l?guccounter=1
Don't want to fuel the flames, but this article explains elements of WP pretty well. Also looks at examples whereby WP is confused with class privilege, gender privilege, naturalised citizen privilege, intellect privilege and a number of other things.
Don't want to fuel the flames, but this article explains elements of WP pretty well. Also looks at examples whereby WP is confused with class privilege, gender privilege, naturalised citizen privilege, intellect privilege and a number of other things.
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