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05-22-2016 , 09:34 PM
H1 (Q8dd): Standard

H2 (QcKd): You really only get called by a chop or better in this river spot I believe. Potentially you could check this hand otf/ott at some frequency. I know the result of this hand in question but you're going broke regardless of how you play it I expect.

H3 (AcQh): Hmmm... it would be nice to know his 4bet range in this spot in the case he may turn up with some AK. I personally feel like this is a fold since I don't think the average joe gets fruity enough with their KQJTdd kinda hands to stick it in as a x/r ott but is rather turning up with A9s,99 more often. Otherwise I would probably go with whatever stats you have to mainly inform your choice in this spot

H4 (JcJd): Standard

H5 (JsJh): Standard, nut bluff hand for villian to turn up with here

H6 (As6s): Nice value overbet

H7 (AcQc): Nice to know you can quit instantaneously. Not sure about backraising personally, I think your hand performs better as a flat even though it seems reasonable to isolate. Either way you're chunking it in on the flop and enjoying your flip equity vs whaley
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05-22-2016 , 10:28 PM
In the last AQ hand I'd flat too (but consider I dont play or know this limit very well), my thinking would be go like with iso 3betting we basically not invite any of the worse hands to the action and maybe fold out many of the weaker ones from COs opening range.

But in the meantime our hand is also not strong enough to effectively combat a lighter 4betting range OOP especially multi-way I think (correct me if I'm wrong dont exactly know the math on this). I wouldnt be too happy 5betting, but in the meantime I think its still a better solution than flatting multi-way and see if we could flop some semi-value / if vs overflopped us. I think our hand also becomes a lot harder to navigate postflop multiway.
On flop I think its player dependant, which better to shove, or bet small for inducing (and gii). I'm definitely wanting to SD from flop, as I cant imagine a range construction our hand would do too bad against, so would consider myself "did well" as long we could gii for stacks on flop. I believe in worse cases even if villain flopped sets or straights our nfd+2overs shouldnt be too bad considering all the dead money in the pot.
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05-23-2016 , 03:06 PM
strat itt
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05-25-2016 , 04:20 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by LiamFitzy
H1 (Q8dd): Standard

H2 (QcKd): You really only get called by a chop or better in this river spot I believe. Potentially you could check this hand otf/ott at some frequency. I know the result of this hand in question but you're going broke regardless of how you play it I expect.

yeah agree

H3 (AcQh): Hmmm... it would be nice to know his 4bet range in this spot in the case he may turn up with some AK. I personally feel like this is a fold since I don't think the average joe gets fruity enough with their KQJTdd kinda hands to stick it in as a x/r ott but is rather turning up with A9s,99 more often. Otherwise I would probably go with whatever stats you have to mainly inform your choice in this spot

I guess this has gotta be true and the sad reality cus people should be showing up here with worse than the nuts. Alas, he had AK ofc!

H4 (JcJd): Standard

H5 (JsJh): Standard, nut bluff hand for villian to turn up with here

H6 (As6s): Nice value overbet

H7 (AcQc): Nice to know you can quit instantaneously. Not sure about backraising personally, I think your hand performs better as a flat even though it seems reasonable to isolate. Either way you're chunking it in on the flop and enjoying your flip equity vs whaley

This guy was very very special so i think the 4b is a definite must
Thanks for the feedback again mate! hope you're doing well

Quote:
Originally Posted by U-n-o
In the last AQ hand I'd flat too (but consider I dont play or know this limit very well), my thinking would be go like with iso 3betting we basically not invite any of the worse hands to the action and maybe fold out many of the weaker ones from COs opening range.

But in the meantime our hand is also not strong enough to effectively combat a lighter 4betting range OOP especially multi-way I think (correct me if I'm wrong dont exactly know the math on this). I wouldnt be too happy 5betting, but in the meantime I think its still a better solution than flatting multi-way and see if we could flop some semi-value / if vs overflopped us. I think our hand also becomes a lot harder to navigate postflop multiway.
On flop I think its player dependant, which better to shove, or bet small for inducing (and gii). I'm definitely wanting to SD from flop, as I cant imagine a range construction our hand would do too bad against, so would consider myself "did well" as long we could gii for stacks on flop. I believe in worse cases even if villain flopped sets or straights our nfd+2overs shouldnt be too bad considering all the dead money in the pot.
While i tend to agree with a lot of the stuff you've said vs a 'normal' villain, when vs this player type you have to adjust accordingly. In this particular spot i'm fist pump getting AQs in pre and feel i massively lose out on value by not getting as much money in vs hands that i crush. As played i can get behind a small bet for sure though.

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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
strat itt
many!

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Had a day off yesterday for client work. Still waiting to hear back about the interview i had last week. What's standard procedure for these kinda things? If i was to be accepted onto the course i would need to have an essay completed by the beginning of July so i kinda need to know sooner rather than later. If anyone knows please shout!

On monday night some of the guys and i went to an awesome table tennis bar in central london. It's called Bounce and i strongly recommend anyone to go! It was so competitive that JVL_STARRR69 ended up splitting his trousers in the crotch

Unfortunately being back at the tables wasn't the best experience as seen in the graph. Another pretty terrible day.



There is a slight silver lining this time though. Smb sweated me for about 2 hours along with a pretty in depth hand analysis from the past week. It was so good for someone to witness some of the hell that's been going on the past 2 months and bar 1 hand that we reviewed, he was convinced that i'm playing well and that there has been close to nothing i could have done to change the way things have gone. I also liked getting a sanity check on small-medium sized pots where my redline is just plummeting beyond belief. Something that has been really getting to me is my extremely low wwsf. Having someone see hand after hand where i'm in 3b spots and have to give up 40-50bb pots just gives me a lot more confidence. I know loads of people have said that in here and to me, but it's good to confirm it by someone railing live. So yeah, kinda bitter sweet losses today.

vs fish:

    $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37341987

    MP: $680.76 (113.5 bb)
    Hero (BTN): $741.26 (123.5 bb)
    UTG: $643.35 (107.2 bb)
    SB: $602.78 (100.5 bb)
    BB: $671.90 (112 bb)
    CO: $335.12 (55.9 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q J
    UTG folds, MP calls $6, CO folds, Hero raises to $24, 2 folds, MP calls $18

    Flop: ($57) 5 9 2 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $24, MP calls $24

    Turn: ($105) T (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $81, MP calls $81

    River: ($267) 4 (2 players)
    MP checks, Hero bets $210, MP calls $210

    Spoiler:
    Results: $687 pot ($3 rake)
    Final Board: 5 9 2 T 4
    MP showed T A and won $684 ($345 net)
    Hero showed Q J and lost (-$339 net)



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    vs aggressive reg:

      $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37341988

      UTG: $406 (101.5 bb)
      MP: $566.50 (141.6 bb)
      Hero (BTN): $416.90 (104.2 bb)
      SB: $673.60 (168.4 bb)
      BB: $412.90 (103.2 bb)
      CO: $400 (100 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q T
      3 folds, Hero raises to $10, SB raises to $40, BB folds, Hero calls $30

      Flop: ($84) 8 3 T (2 players)
      SB bets $44, Hero calls $44

      Turn: ($172) K (2 players)
      SB bets $92, Hero calls $92

      River: ($356) 2 (2 players)
      SB bets $497.60 and is all-in, Hero calls $240.90 and is all-in

      Spoiler:
      Results: $837.80 pot ($3 rake)
      Final Board: 8 3 T K 2
      Hero mucked Q T and lost (-$416.90 net)
      SB showed A K and won $834.80 ($417.90 net)



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      vs tight reg:

        $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37341989

        BTN: $414.80 (103.7 bb)
        BB: $445 (111.3 bb)
        Hero (SB): $429.80 (107.5 bb)
        UTG: $683.24 (170.8 bb)
        MP: $175.50 (43.9 bb)
        CO: $404 (101 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is SB with Q Q
        3 folds, BTN raises to $8, Hero raises to $32, BB folds, BTN calls $24

        Flop: ($68) T 6 3 (2 players)
        Hero checks, BTN bets $38, Hero raises to $122, BTN calls $84

        Turn: ($312) 6 (2 players)
        Hero bets $275.80 and is all-in, BTN calls $260.80 and is all-in

        River: ($833.60) 7 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $833.60 pot ($3.00 rake)
        Final Board: T 6 3 6 7
        BTN showed T T and won $830.60 ($415.80 net)
        Hero showed Q Q and lost (-$414.80 net)



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        Feeling surprisingly upbeat about poker which is how i have dealt with downswings in the past. I'll definitely put in real effort to hold onto this new found good spirit.

        Going to see Radiohead live tomorrow night. Cannot wait!

        glgl
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        05-25-2016 , 06:05 PM
        Enjoy Radiohead. The new album is beautiful.
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        05-25-2016 , 09:58 PM
        Sounds like we're both going through similar things with regards to poker, sooo frustrating being helpless with the wwsf/red line. Anyways we've all been there just gotta keep the discipline and grind on outta it.

        ^ +1 Radiohead
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        05-26-2016 , 03:49 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by Bagpuss
        Sounds like we're both going through similar things with regards to poker, sooo frustrating being helpless with the wwsf/red line. Anyways we've all been there just gotta keep the discipline and grind on outta it.

        ^ +1 Radiohead
        Think we're all in the same boat (apart from having a Radiohead gig to look forward to)
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        05-26-2016 , 05:30 AM
        Above

        Worst ****ing day ever today

        Steaming lol

        Can't win a hand worst run outs ever

        Gl ben
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        05-26-2016 , 06:17 AM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
        Definitely more inclined to call if he bets smaller but yeah i think i did level myself somewhat. As i said though, i think the call is ok

        ---

        Was pretty pumped to grind today and got totally destroyed again. Losing for the month now. 120k hand losing stretch now and 10k from peak. Brilliant



        Please tell me what i've done wrong in these hands. I'm pretty sure i'm making mistake after mistake atm. Either that or this horrendous patch is starting to mess with my head

        vs reg:

          $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37336785

          UTG: $642 (107 bb)
          SB: $240 (40 bb)
          CO: $642 (107 bb)
          Hero (BTN): $600 (100 bb)
          BB: $908.15 (151.4 bb)
          MP: $588.75 (98.1 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is BTN with Q Q
          2 folds, CO raises to $13.50, Hero raises to $51, 2 folds, CO calls $37.50

          Flop: ($111) 3 T J (2 players)
          CO checks, Hero checks

          Turn: ($111) 4 (2 players)
          CO bets $163, Hero raises to $549 and is all-in, CO calls $386

          River: ($1,209) 2 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

          Spoiler:
          Results: $1,209 pot ($3 rake)
          Final Board: 3 T J 4 2
          CO showed J T and won $1,206 ($606 net)
          Hero mucked Q Q and lost (-$600 net)



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          reg

            $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37336786

            MP: $400 (100 bb)
            Hero (BTN): $909.69 (227.4 bb)
            BB: $57.33 (14.3 bb)
            SB: $478.40 (119.6 bb)
            CO: $1,172.30 (293.1 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 9
            MP raises to $10.80, CO folds, Hero raises to $32, 2 folds, MP calls $21.20

            Flop: ($70) 6 8 9 (2 players)
            MP checks, Hero bets $48, MP calls $48

            Turn: ($166) 9 (2 players)
            MP checks, Hero checks

            River: ($166) J (2 players)
            MP bets $112, Hero raises to $829.69 and is all-in, MP calls $208 and is all-in

            Spoiler:
            Results: $806 pot ($3.00 rake)
            Final Board: 6 8 9 9 J
            MP showed J J and won $803 ($403 net)
            Hero showed 8 9 and lost (-$400.00 net)



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            Awesome play man

              $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37336787

              BB: $400 (100 bb)
              CO: $160 (40 bb)
              Hero (SB): $612.34 (153.1 bb)
              BTN: $407.22 (101.8 bb)
              MP: $495.20 (123.8 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is SB with A A
              3 folds, Hero raises to $12, BB raises to $33.92, Hero raises to $80, BB calls $46.08

              Flop: ($160) 4 6 3 (2 players)
              Hero bets $74, BB raises to $320 and is all-in, Hero calls $246

              Turn: ($800) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
              River: ($800) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

              Spoiler:
              Results: $800 pot ($3 rake)
              Final Board: 4 6 3 4 7
              BB showed 5 6 and won $797 ($397 net)
              Hero showed A A and lost (-$400 net)



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              Fold river vs reg?

                [hand_history]$3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37336788

                MP: $620.70 (103.5 bb)
                CO: $719 (119.8 bb)
                BTN: $600 (100 bb)
                BB: $632.93 (105.5 bb)
                Hero (SB): $1,935.27 (322.5 bb)
                UTG: $687 (114.5 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 9
                3 folds, BTN raises to $12, Hero raises to $48, BB folds, BTN raises to $108, Hero calls $60

                Flop: ($222) 6 7 3 (2 players)
                Hero checks, BTN bets $75, Hero calls $75

                Turn: ($372) 6 (2 players)
                Hero checks, BTN checks

                River: ($372) 5 (2 players)
                Hero checks, BTN bets $417 and is all-in,


                Check back or shove river?

                  $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37336789

                  UTG: $415.22 (103.8 bb)
                  BTN: $991.52 (247.9 bb)
                  Hero (CO): $410 (102.5 bb)
                  SB: $402 (100.5 bb)
                  MP: $400 (100 bb)
                  BB: $515.80 (129 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is CO with A A
                  UTG raises to $10.80, MP calls $10.80, Hero raises to $50, 4 folds, MP calls $39.20

                  Flop: ($116.80) 8 7 8 (2 players)
                  MP checks, Hero bets $38, MP calls $38

                  Turn: ($192.80) 4 (2 players)
                  MP checks, Hero bets $68, MP calls $68

                  River: ($328.80) 9 (2 players)
                  MP checks, Hero bets $254 and is all-in, MP calls $244 and is all-in

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $816.80 pot ($3 rake)
                  Final Board: 8 7 8 4 9
                  Hero showed A A and lost (-$400 net)
                  MP showed 4 4 and won $813.80 ($413.80 net)



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                  shove river? check fold flop? check fold turn? no idea vs reg

                    [hand_history]$2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 5 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37336790

                    MP: $394 (98.5 bb)
                    Hero (SB): $446.89 (111.7 bb)
                    CO: $400 (100 bb)
                    BB: $515.59 (128.9 bb)
                    BTN: $1,152.68 (288.2 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is SB with Q T
                    MP raises to $8, 2 folds, Hero raises to $32, BB folds, MP calls $24

                    Flop: ($68) 5 J 3 (2 players)
                    Hero bets $22, MP calls $22

                    Turn: ($112) 8 (2 players)
                    Hero bets $80, MP calls $80

                    River: ($272) 6 (2 players)
                    Hero has $260???


                    vs aggro reg. bet fold river?

                      [hand_history]$3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 2 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37336791

                      Hero (SB): $645 (107.5 bb)
                      BB: $605.56 (100.9 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is SB with A K
                      Hero raises to $15, BB calls $9

                      Flop: ($30) Q A A (2 players)
                      BB checks, Hero bets $15, BB calls $15

                      Turn: ($60) 8 (2 players)
                      BB checks, Hero bets $39, BB calls $39

                      River: ($138) 4 (2 players)
                      BB checks, Hero bets $105, BB raises to $310


                      Loads more hands but that'll do for now. My wwsf is just through the floor. It's like 39% atm which is soooooooo low even for me.

                      Won't be grinding till sunday now. Got a friends wedding which will be a nice break away from the tables.

                      Let's try gazzy style #prayforop

                      glgl
                      QQ is fine I think, it doesn't look like you're calling turn to fold river so I don't really expect him to bluff rivers so you're in essence just giving a free card by calling turn. Obv betting flop is OK as well.

                      99 honestly I don't mind calling pre instead of 3betting vs some opponents. These hands just play so bad vs 4bets imo and it doesn't do increadible even if they flat. But as played I fold river if he's a standard player.

                      QT I really don't like turn barrel. As played I give up, don't think he's folding Jx since u have so many broadways with a diamond, and he can still have flushes/sets.

                      AK is a clear fold imo. He's gotta be pretty sick in the head to bluff here.

                      GL
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                      05-26-2016 , 07:28 AM
                      I mean

                      Smb sweating being a good thing, what's the world come to?!

                      Jesus Christ is my n1gga btw
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                      05-26-2016 , 12:51 PM
                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by deathorglory0
                      Enjoy Radiohead. The new album is beautiful.
                      Yeah it really is. So excited!

                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by Bagpuss
                      Sounds like we're both going through similar things with regards to poker, sooo frustrating being helpless with the wwsf/red line. Anyways we've all been there just gotta keep the discipline and grind on outta it.

                      ^ +1 Radiohead
                      Stick at it man, that's all we can do

                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by Husker
                      Think we're all in the same boat (apart from having a Radiohead gig to look forward to)


                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by max85
                      Above

                      Worst ****ing day ever today

                      Steaming lol

                      Can't win a hand worst run outs ever

                      Gl ben
                      i know the feeling all too well mate

                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by imfromsweden
                      QQ is fine I think, it doesn't look like you're calling turn to fold river so I don't really expect him to bluff rivers so you're in essence just giving a free card by calling turn. Obv betting flop is OK as well.

                      99 honestly I don't mind calling pre instead of 3betting vs some opponents. These hands just play so bad vs 4bets imo and it doesn't do increadible even if they flat. But as played I fold river if he's a standard player.

                      QT I really don't like turn barrel. As played I give up, don't think he's folding Jx since u have so many broadways with a diamond, and he can still have flushes/sets.

                      AK is a clear fold imo. He's gotta be pretty sick in the head to bluff here.

                      GL
                      thanks for this mate. Definitely agree with calling the 99 as an option but have to say that the QT is a fine barrel ott. Definitely not a river shove though. gl!

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                      Originally Posted by blakkman08
                      I mean

                      Smb sweating being a good thing, what's the world come to?!

                      Jesus Christ is my n1gga btw
                      are you high?!

                      ---

                      Another emotionally challenging day. wwsf 39, wasd 40 over 2k hands.



                      vs relatively spicy reg. Thoughts?

                        [hand_history]Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
                        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37342462

                        SB: $568.04 (142 bb)
                        Hero (BB): $401.40 (100.4 bb)
                        UTG+2: $234.87 (58.7 bb)
                        MP1: $261.84 (65.5 bb)
                        MP2: $154 (38.5 bb)
                        MP3: $430.80 (107.7 bb)
                        CO: $400 (100 bb)
                        BTN: $605.80 (151.5 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is BB with Q Q
                        3 folds, MP3 raises to $10, CO raises to $30, 2 folds, Hero raises to $80, MP3 folds, CO calls $50

                        Flop: ($172) T 4 6 (2 players)
                        Hero bets $76, CO calls $76

                        Turn: ($324) K (2 players)
                        Hero checks, CO bets $244 and is all-in


                        vs 29/23 wwsf 52, wasd 56. I think my flop sizing is off fwiw but yeah, thoughts please:

                          [hand_history]$2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players
                          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37342463

                          Hero (BB): $400 (100 bb)
                          BTN: $520.13 (130 bb)
                          SB: $400 (100 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is BB with A K
                          BTN folds, SB raises to $9, Hero raises to $32, SB calls $23

                          Flop: ($64) 2 8 7 (2 players)
                          SB checks, Hero bets $40, SB calls $40

                          Turn: ($144) K (2 players)
                          SB checks, Hero bets $80, SB raises to $328 and is all-in, Hero $248 to call???


                          Very sad day today, the first time i've redeposited since turning pro nearly 6 years ago. Oh well, it was gunna happen eventually!

                          Back on the horse tomorrow.

                          gl
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                          05-26-2016 , 01:19 PM
                          Rough few days mate, hope you can turn it around soon. Redepositing sucks, but I'm sure you've taken enough money out of the Stars client during your time.

                          Think we probably have to flick it in both of those hands fwiw. Horrible spots though.
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                          05-26-2016 , 02:25 PM
                          first hand call quite quickly. 2nd hand call very quickly. dw brother.
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                          05-27-2016 , 09:39 AM
                          Countdown to busto. So long. Gl w ur realjob!

                          If it makes u feel any better i never redeposited. Cheers!
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                          05-28-2016 , 08:10 AM
                          Keep your head up mate downswings are horrible. When I run bad I usually play bad too, so if you are running bad and still able to play good poker you are still ahead of the game.

                          Get MGOP on audiobook and let Jared talk you through it.

                          Would you ever consider dropping down stakes until you are running better or you prefer to just battle through it?
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                          05-28-2016 , 11:46 AM
                          Quote:
                          Originally Posted by dev123
                          Keep your head up mate downswings are horrible. When I run bad I usually play bad too, so if you are running bad and still able to play good poker you are still ahead of the game.

                          Get MGOP on audiobook and let Jared talk you through it.

                          Would you ever consider dropping down stakes until you are running better or you prefer to just battle through it?
                          i dont often post strat, but will make an exception today:

                          moving down is worst thing, cause if you catch heat you don't make it back
                          also have you seen his 200 winrate? he can't beat 200, so unsure how that would help him really, if he moved there.
                          moving up is the solution! you can win it back faster.

                          also when CHASING if you move up and you win, it turns out you were unnecesarily playing low, so you can just stay and not have to wait for buyin requirements, as you were just tested that you are beating that stake

                          Last edited by bigacsiga; 05-28-2016 at 11:55 AM.
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                          05-28-2016 , 01:10 PM
                          Quote:
                          Originally Posted by Kangal_
                          Rough few days mate, hope you can turn it around soon. Redepositing sucks, but I'm sure you've taken enough money out of the Stars client during your time.

                          Think we probably have to flick it in both of those hands fwiw. Horrible spots though.
                          Quote:
                          Originally Posted by SmbSmbSmb
                          first hand call quite quickly. 2nd hand call very quickly. dw brother.
                          Thanks boys.

                          Results

                          QQ: lost to AK
                          AK: lost to 78

                          Quote:
                          Originally Posted by TimStone
                          Countdown to busto. So long. Gl w ur realjob!

                          If it makes u feel any better i never redeposited. Cheers!
                          haha thanks for the support as always!

                          Quote:
                          Originally Posted by dev123
                          Keep your head up mate downswings are horrible. When I run bad I usually play bad too, so if you are running bad and still able to play good poker you are still ahead of the game.

                          Get MGOP on audiobook and let Jared talk you through it.

                          Would you ever consider dropping down stakes until you are running better or you prefer to just battle through it?
                          cheers boss, trying to keep my head high. Jared is always there in my mind, helping me along the way Yeah i've been strongly considering dropping down to 200nl recently. Fortunately i am well rolled for 600nl even if i was to continue losing for another few months. I guess you may mean for mental reasons as oppose to financial, and yeah i think if i lose for another month then i would prob drop down.

                          Quote:
                          Originally Posted by bigacsiga
                          i dont often post strat, but will make an exception today:

                          moving down is worst thing, cause if you catch heat you don't make it back
                          also have you seen his 200 winrate? he can't beat 200, so unsure how that would help him really, if he moved there.
                          moving up is the solution! you can win it back faster.

                          also when CHASING if you move up and you win, it turns out you were unnecesarily playing low, so you can just stay and not have to wait for buyin requirements, as you were just tested that you are beating that stake
                          great advice! Maybe i'll be moving up over the next couple weeks

                          ---

                          So radiohead were absolutely sick. They played a two and a half hour set of pure quality. Played a mixture of their new album and some of their old. They played a really weird version of ideoteque that i absolutely loved and finished with everything in it's right place.

                          Arbitrary stage photo



                          Played a bit yesterday and lost 800. Played a huge session today but didn't manage to get much going. Nice not to lose again though.



                          Such a dire spot vs fish:

                            $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
                            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37343983

                            MP2: $490.27 (122.6 bb)
                            MP3: $484.50 (121.1 bb)
                            BB: $458.08 (114.5 bb)
                            Hero (MP1): $478.80 (119.7 bb)
                            BTN: $438.85 (109.7 bb)
                            CO: $881 (220.3 bb)
                            SB: $823.07 (205.8 bb)
                            UTG+2: $400 (100 bb)

                            Preflop: Hero is MP1 with T 9
                            UTG+2 folds, Hero raises to $10, MP2 raises to $34.16, 3 folds, SB calls $32.16, BB calls $30.16, Hero calls $24.16

                            Flop: ($136.64) T T 6 (4 players)
                            SB checks, BB checks, Hero checks, MP2 checks

                            Turn: ($136.64) J (4 players)
                            SB checks, BB checks, Hero bets $76, MP2 folds, SB calls $76, BB folds

                            River: ($288.64) 6 (2 players)
                            SB bets $712.91, Hero calls $368.64

                            Spoiler:
                            Results: $1,025.92 pot ($3 rake)
                            Final Board: T T 6 J 6
                            Hero mucked T 9 and lost (-$478.80 net)
                            SB showed J J and won $1,022.92 ($544.12 net)



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                            fist pump call vs 25/18/8 wwsf 47 wasd 50?

                              [hand_history]$2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37343984

                              BTN: $400 (100 bb)
                              BB: $201.82 (50.5 bb)
                              CO: $508.07 (127 bb)
                              Hero (SB): $619.72 (154.9 bb)
                              UTG: $423 (105.8 bb)
                              MP: $146.53 (36.6 bb)

                              Preflop: Hero is SB with T Q
                              2 folds, CO raises to $8, BTN folds, Hero raises to $32, BB folds, CO calls $24

                              Flop: ($68) 9 5 8 (2 players)
                              Hero bets $28, CO calls $28

                              Turn: ($124) Q (2 players)
                              Hero checks, CO bets $72, Hero calls $72

                              River: ($268) 5 (2 players)
                              Hero checks, CO bets $176.66, Hero???


                              i enjoyed this one. kinda went into psychotic laughter for a while

                                $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37343985

                                CO: $283.45 (47.2 bb)
                                SB: $726 (121 bb)
                                Hero (BB): $1,178.80 (196.5 bb)
                                UTG: $693.27 (115.5 bb)
                                MP: $392.08 (65.3 bb)
                                BTN: $600 (100 bb)

                                Preflop: Hero is BB with 5 6
                                2 folds, CO raises to $13.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $39, CO calls $25.50

                                Flop: ($81) 8 9 7 (2 players)
                                Hero bets $63, CO raises to $244.45 and is all-in, Hero calls $181.45

                                Turn: ($569.90) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
                                River: ($569.90) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                                Spoiler:
                                Results: $569.90 pot ($3 rake)
                                Final Board: 8 9 7 7 4
                                CO showed T J and won $566.90 ($283.45 net)
                                Hero showed 5 6 and lost (-$283.45 net)



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                                Should have folded turn here vs loose but extreme non-bluffing reg. When i snap folded river he said, 'oh, i was sure you had an overpair '. He had 55

                                  Poker Stars, $2/$4 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 8 Players
                                  Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37343986

                                  MP3: $445.75 (111.4 bb)
                                  CO: $83.69 (20.9 bb)
                                  Hero (BTN): $490.61 (122.7 bb)
                                  SB: $494 (123.5 bb)
                                  BB: $440.70 (110.2 bb)
                                  UTG+2: $444 (111 bb)
                                  MP1: $515.17 (128.8 bb)
                                  MP2: $412 (103 bb)

                                  Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A
                                  3 folds, MP3 raises to $8, CO folds, Hero raises to $32, 2 folds, MP3 calls $24

                                  Flop: ($70) 3 5 T (2 players)
                                  MP3 checks, Hero bets $24, MP3 raises to $56, Hero calls $32

                                  Turn: ($182) 7 (2 players)
                                  MP3 bets $88, Hero calls $88

                                  River: ($358) 8 (2 players)
                                  MP3 bets $269.75 and is all-in, Hero folds

                                  Spoiler:
                                  Results: $358 pot ($3 rake)
                                  Final Board: 3 5 T 7 8
                                  MP3 mucked and won $355 ($179 net)
                                  Hero mucked A A and lost (-$176 net)



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                                  Time is running out to get out of it for the month, but tbh that's not high on the agenda. I just wanna keep making correct folds and keeping a real reign on the urge to blow up. fwiw i'm 100% succeeding in this so all good. Past 2 sessions showdown stats have been a ton better, 47 wwsf and 54 wasd. Shame i havent won any money! I guess that'll just come in time.

                                  Gym now, then champions league final. Very exciting. Oh also, i'm going to the quarter finals in Lille with the boys. The way it's worked out, if England finish top of the group and win the game of the final 16, we'll be watching them. It would be sooo sick to see england play at that stage of the tournament.

                                  glgl.
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                                  05-28-2016 , 01:51 PM
                                  Quote:
                                  Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
                                  Should have folded turn here vs loose but extreme non-bluffing reg. When i snap folded river he said, 'oh, i was sure you had an overpair '. He had 55
                                  sharkneb?


                                  Quote:
                                  Gym now, then champions league final. Very exciting. Oh also, i'm going to the quarter finals in Lille with the boys. The way it's worked out, if England finish top of the group and win the game of the final 16, we'll be watching them. It would be sooo sick to see england play at that stage of the tournament.

                                  glgl.
                                  england looking pretty decent for the first time in a long time gl
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                                  05-28-2016 , 01:53 PM
                                  Quote:
                                  Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat


                                  The way it's worked out, if England finish top of the group and win the game of the final 16, we'll be watching them. It would be sooo sick to see england play at that stage of the tournament.

                                  glgl.
                                  It would be sick indeed if this came to pass
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                                  05-28-2016 , 01:57 PM
                                  Wow radiohead live nice brag! Gl at the tables, variance can be a bitch.
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                                  05-28-2016 , 06:35 PM
                                  Just gotta grind trought the downswing and if you are properly rolled this shouldnt be too hard even for mental game etc. You have a good sample of you beating the games you play so just gotta always remember that. Variance can be a real bitch. For me it helped a lot to drop down and grind stress free, but if you are properly rolled, I don't think you should necessarily do this.

                                  And this comes from a ****reg that had a huge downswing earlier this year, dropping from NL400-600 games and shotting 1k games, to dropping to even at NL100 for brief period, because almost going busto, but now I'm slowly easing back into NL400+. But then again one could question if I was even beating the games at upper midstakes or just on a huge upswing.


                                  For me it always helped doing some sims at pokerdope variancecalcs to get idea of what variance looks like, even if it was just to fool me.




                                  Can't even imagine what lolmttregs go trough.
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                                  05-29-2016 , 07:06 PM
                                  Quote:
                                  Originally Posted by woolly
                                  sharkneb?

                                  england looking pretty decent for the first time in a long time gl
                                  ha, nope. a reg who i barely ever see play actually. yes they do! hoping for good things

                                  Quote:
                                  Originally Posted by Husker
                                  It would be sick indeed if this came to pass
                                  haha, you're scottish right?

                                  Quote:
                                  Originally Posted by LittleGoliath
                                  Wow radiohead live nice brag! Gl at the tables, variance can be a bitch.
                                  yeah man, it was amazing. it really can, feels like it's never ending.

                                  Quote:
                                  Originally Posted by doctor877
                                  Just gotta grind trought the downswing and if you are properly rolled this shouldnt be too hard even for mental game etc. You have a good sample of you beating the games you play so just gotta always remember that. Variance can be a real bitch. For me it helped a lot to drop down and grind stress free, but if you are properly rolled, I don't think you should necessarily do this.

                                  And this comes from a ****reg that had a huge downswing earlier this year, dropping from NL400-600 games and shotting 1k games, to dropping to even at NL100 for brief period, because almost going busto, but now I'm slowly easing back into NL400+. But then again one could question if I was even beating the games at upper midstakes or just on a huge upswing.

                                  For me it always helped doing some sims at pokerdope variancecalcs to get idea of what variance looks like, even if it was just to fool me.

                                  Can't even imagine what lolmttregs go trough.
                                  Thanks for your insight man. It can be a very tough pill to swallow to move down but there's no shame in doing so. hoping things turn around before doing that though! Yeah the mtt guys must be in such a horrible state all the time, very pleased i became a cash reg for that reason.

                                  ---

                                  Had a great first session, was brimming with confidence and then got totally annihilated to bring me back down to earth. I got super angry and tilted pretty badly unfortunately.



                                  ugh vs weak reg:

                                    $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 3 Players
                                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37344025

                                    BTN: $640.20 (106.7 bb)
                                    Hero (BB): $609 (101.5 bb)
                                    SB: $965.20 (160.9 bb)

                                    Preflop: Hero is BB with Q 8
                                    BTN raises to $18, SB folds, Hero calls $12

                                    Flop: ($39) J T A (2 players)
                                    Hero checks, BTN bets $27, Hero raises to $78, BTN calls $51

                                    Turn: ($195) 4 (2 players)
                                    Hero bets $144, BTN calls $144

                                    River: ($483) A (2 players)
                                    Hero bets $369 and is all-in, BTN calls $369

                                    Spoiler:
                                    Results: $1,221 pot ($2 rake)
                                    Final Board: J T A 4 A
                                    BTN showed J A and won $1,219 ($610 net)
                                    Hero showed Q 8 and lost (-$609 net)



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                                    Session quitting hand vs whale. I got up and walked around the room after this one:

                                      Poker Stars, $3/$6 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 6 Players
                                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37344026

                                      Hero (BTN): $600 (100 bb)
                                      SB: $522.10 (87 bb)
                                      BB: $659.48 (109.9 bb)
                                      UTG: $1,291.76 (215.3 bb)
                                      MP: $614.95 (102.5 bb)
                                      CO: $791.63 (131.9 bb)

                                      Preflop: Hero is BTN with K K
                                      UTG folds, MP raises to $13.44, CO folds, Hero raises to $48, SB calls $45, BB folds, MP calls $34.56

                                      Flop: ($150) 5 5 Q (3 players)
                                      SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets $46.88, SB raises to $93.76, MP folds, Hero calls $46.88

                                      Turn: ($337.52) 2 (2 players)
                                      SB bets $90, Hero calls $90

                                      River: ($517.52) 9 (2 players)
                                      SB bets $290.34, Hero calls $290.34

                                      Spoiler:
                                      Results: $1,098.20 pot ($3.50 rake)
                                      Final Board: 5 5 Q 2 9
                                      Hero showed K K and lost (-$522.10 net)
                                      SB showed Q Q and won $1,094.70 ($572.60 net)



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                                      Busy with family things tomorrow day but will no doubt grind in the evening.

                                      gl
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                                      05-29-2016 , 09:28 PM
                                      how can we jam river on the q8dd hand when all that will call is boats or kd flush?
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                                      05-29-2016 , 09:29 PM
                                      Quote:
                                      Originally Posted by max85
                                      how can we jam river on the q8dd hand when all that will call is boats or kd flush?
                                      not entirely true

                                      but i gotta go with the x/f on this one unless >70% rfi otb
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                                      05-29-2016 , 09:41 PM
                                      Follow and gl!
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