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01-03-2021 , 12:47 AM
Sick post! I love seeing your insta stories! Best of luck in 2021!
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01-03-2021 , 05:06 AM
Huge results, wp! Gl in 2021!
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01-03-2021 , 10:10 AM
EZ 200k!

Sick how you can balance all the extra work with playing 500k hands, and not lose your mind in this year of years.
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01-05-2021 , 08:47 AM
old man ben showing the kids how its done gg bud love to ****ing see a classic bena post again, didnt think i d see the day
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01-05-2021 , 09:10 AM
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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
3) Intentional/time effective study. As many already know I study with Clanty. We do 2 sessions a week and this year has truly been ridiculous in the amount we have both learnt. I've gone from playing like a fish, to playing like a semi-fish.
I wonder what the equivalent is for me if it's like that for you. That part is not the most motivating thing you've written

Jokes aside. What an amazing thread and results are just as amazing. People who can go through hell and back in this game and still stay on top of the pool are the ones I respect the most. Doesn't matter if it's 100nl or 5000nl. You have shown this incredible "intangible" skill that most people don't have, and I can't even imagine how much hard work it takes to get to that sort of mental stability towards variance. People like you probably have long careers in poker and always stay a few steps ahead of the field. If you somehow stop playing poker, you will definitely succeed in other fields that require the same category of skills.

Oladipo's post indeed is very powerful and motivating. Really glad he posted that. Definitely nudged me towards trying to be a lot more professional in the way I approach poker going forward.

If you don't mind sharing.. What are, in your opinion, the best ways to become more detached from variance and shifting attention towards something you have more control over?

GL Bena, and wish you all the best for 2021!

EDIT: that set-up is SICK! If you don't already use software to divide your screen into desired "invisible" boxes to maximize windows into: DisplayFusion (non-free) and PowerToys (free) are pretty decent. Makes things much easier. I use a template where I can tile tables into the exact same places every time I play, and also have a template for everyday use that divides the screen into 3 sections just like a triple monitor setup.

Last edited by Shipnickle; 01-05-2021 at 09:24 AM.
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01-09-2021 , 03:33 PM
Excellent results for the year. Good stuff.
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01-09-2021 , 07:24 PM
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Originally Posted by bigstealer
Great stuff. Go get ‘em this year.
thanks bro <3

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Originally Posted by Parsons Grinder
Amazing year, can't wait to see how 2021 goes for you. Probably my favourite PGC thread and should be a must read for anyone wanting to take poker seriously.
cheers jake! not sure i would wanna put anyone through reading every post of this thread

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Originally Posted by isunkurbttlship
Nice year Ben, well played!
yo thanks mate! hope you're still crushing and repping the old squad

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Originally Posted by yasuo
Hands down one of the most inspirational PGC threads
boom, thank you my man

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Congrats Ben!
cheers mate! see you at the tables throughout the year no doubt

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Originally Posted by davidnso
absolutely crushed the year! interested in what psychotherapy sessions you offer. unsure about the workshop (although I have zero experience here), but gut feeling is that some deeper layers wouldn't be uncovered due to the size of the group -- still interested in both nonetheless.

glgl in 2021!
you're absolutely right regarding the deeper layers perhaps not being uncovered. That said, the workshops won't be psychotherapeutically led, rather mental game coaching led. Whilst mental game coaching is still explorative and personal topics often arise, it is also more results/homework/cognitively driven and therefore better suited for group work. As mentioned I'm unsure how or if it'll work!

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Originally Posted by Mayox
super sick volume/results kid and overall impressive update <3
yo cheers frank. good to catch up the other day and hopefully more bouldering is allowed before you leave again <3

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Originally Posted by madmansam
Excellent Year Bena! Congrats! Can someone link the Oladipo post mentioned? Ty.
thank you! i think someone linked it.

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Originally Posted by DumbosTrunk
Googogo! Well done. Wishing you more rungood in the year ahead.
tytyty!

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Originally Posted by mosquito!
grats on amazing year!!! Huge respect!
cheers!

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Originally Posted by CheckRais3r
Congrats Ben! Love your work ethic
<3 thanks

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Originally Posted by pontylad
Nice job Ben, very solid as always!
need a catch up man, been far too long. we still sometimes chat in the grey UK group on skype - you ever about!?

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Originally Posted by TheTyman9
You are definitely a great example to emulate for how to balance a successful life in and out of poker. Congrats on the great year and your therapy work!
very kind of you and appreciate the well wishes. take care

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Originally Posted by Jimmy Busto
Not bad for an avg Reg. WD.
ty boss

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Originally Posted by Slugant
interesting and inspiring ben, great job!
do you by any chance have a stake breakdown?
Thanks slug! afraid no stake breakdown this year

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Originally Posted by DrTJO
Appreciate the summary and congratulations! Fascinating, and reassuring, to see an effective relationship between poker and psychotherapy—and very pleased that you’ve demonstrated how theory can be put into practice.
it really means a great deal to me that this can be acknowledged by some of my poker colleagues. It really has been an arduous journey. <3

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Originally Posted by bob_124
enjoyed the EOY update, esp the snippet from your diss. GL on all fronts this year!
thanks a lot ben! i have just remembered that i have a piece of yours to read. I'm going to message you on skype now.

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Originally Posted by Oladipo
Hey man, really awesome post. I probably look up to you more than anyone I’ve met in the poker world , you just have such an admirable grasp on the game of poker and it’s place in your life in terms of how it affects you. You’ve been such a good influence on me and I really appreciate all you’ve helped me with.

I remember early on when we started talking, you were on that completely insane downswing, and I was thinking to myself, “I hope he’s ok, I hope he’s not losing his roll, etc”. And at that time I would b*tch to you about my own variance, which is so lol because:

A) it wasn’t nearly as extreme as yours, and
B) I was (am) a worse player than you, meaning your variance was so much more extreme than my own

- and you never batted an eye, never once complained, never lost your cool. You had complete confidence at every juncture.

It’s embarrassing to think about now but it was so awesome for me to see firsthand and showed me how far I had to go to get to where I want/need to be in terms of mental game.

GL in 2021 and looking fwd to more discussion regarding proper coffee intake and various pet ownership
This is pretty fkn beautiful man, thank you. Really looking forward to a time when i can travel and take full advantage of your epic living situation

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ping
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yes this

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gg on the year. Just wanted to say that this thread has always been very much worth reading (never posted here/slight guilt feelings). As far as I'm concerned you def deserve those 46k that you stole off David Sklansky. Also, your workshop idea sounds quite interesting for a mentalfishreg.
haha no need to feel guilty, glad you were able to lurk and find some interest! hahaha I'll most definitely take the ev and not feel too bad about it awesome, I'll be sure to post if and when the classes take place.

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Well done Ben, all the best for 2021!!!
thanks harvey!

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Sick post! I love seeing your insta stories! Best of luck in 2021!
plenty more on the way

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Originally Posted by Pabl0
Huge results, wp! Gl in 2021!
thank you brother!

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Originally Posted by PlasticElephant
EZ 200k!

Sick how you can balance all the extra work with playing 500k hands, and not lose your mind in this year of years.
haha yeah this is something I've been trying to take stock of. I think because i had no choice but to do all the academic stuff, deal with lockdown and generally get on with it, i somehow got through it. I absolutely need that break tho!

cheers for the kind words brother

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old man ben showing the kids how its done gg bud love to ****ing see a classic bena post again, didnt think i d see the day
haha yaassssss. loved your update too. all the old boys need to make a pgc together

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Originally Posted by Shipnickle
I wonder what the equivalent is for me if it's like that for you. That part is not the most motivating thing you've written

Jokes aside. What an amazing thread and results are just as amazing. People who can go through hell and back in this game and still stay on top of the pool are the ones I respect the most. Doesn't matter if it's 100nl or 5000nl. You have shown this incredible "intangible" skill that most people don't have, and I can't even imagine how much hard work it takes to get to that sort of mental stability towards variance. People like you probably have long careers in poker and always stay a few steps ahead of the field. If you somehow stop playing poker, you will definitely succeed in other fields that require the same category of skills.

Oladipo's post indeed is very powerful and motivating. Really glad he posted that. Definitely nudged me towards trying to be a lot more professional in the way I approach poker going forward.

If you don't mind sharing.. What are, in your opinion, the best ways to become more detached from variance and shifting attention towards something you have more control over?

GL Bena, and wish you all the best for 2021!

EDIT: that set-up is SICK! If you don't already use software to divide your screen into desired "invisible" boxes to maximize windows into: DisplayFusion (non-free) and PowerToys (free) are pretty decent. Makes things much easier. I use a template where I can tile tables into the exact same places every time I play, and also have a template for everyday use that divides the screen into 3 sections just like a triple monitor setup.
Awesome post, thank you!

And in answer to your question, I could write reams and reams on this but I'll keep it as brief as possible. Paradoxically, i think you need to become more attached to variance but not in the way you may assume. I would change the words 'more attached' to 'more curious' as a starting point. Only by wallowing in the felt sense and taking the time to reflect on what is truly being activated within our emotional experience, can we begin to unpick and 'detach' ourselves from that way of being. Now you may well say that whenever you feel tilt you are wallowing in it. This is true, but seldom does one use that feeling as an object for reflection. They're far more likely to react to it or do something to dissipate the feeling as quickly as possible.

This is possible to do on your own through journaling and other meditative exercises but i would say that the best way of unearthing/processing these feelings is with a trained professional (this isn't a plug btw haha) who has the skill to see your blindspots and collaborate with you.

Please do feel free to PM me or whatever - i love this stuff more than anything.

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Excellent results for the year. Good stuff.
yo cheers husk! good to see you still knocking about.

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Happy new year guys. back in lockdown in the UK. the year has started very well poker wise. Not sure when I'll post again but hope you're all keeping safe! oh any ty whoever bumped the thread back to 5*! <3
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01-10-2021 , 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
Paradoxically, i think you need to become more attached to variance but not in the way you may assume. I would change the words 'more attached' to 'more curious' as a starting point. Only by wallowing in the felt sense and taking the time to reflect on what is truly being activated within our emotional experience, can we begin to unpick and 'detach' ourselves from that way of being. Now you may well say that whenever you feel tilt you are wallowing in it. This is true, but seldom does one use that feeling as an object for reflection. They're far more likely to react to it or do something to dissipate the feeling as quickly as possible.
A post like this would have went over my head a few months ago, this advice is actually gold to someone wanting to improve their mental game.
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01-29-2021 , 12:37 PM
Congrats on your previous year. Keep up the good work ethic. See you at the tables
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02-14-2021 , 01:10 AM
Just caught up on last years results! Insane and good luck in 2021 bro!


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02-14-2021 , 03:00 AM
Glad to see you're killing it man keep up the good work! I'm coming back to the game myself and remember you giving me some pointers a few years ago which were really helpful.

Since this thread has mental health in mind, what are your thoughts on microdosing if you have any? It's changed my life completely and fixed a lot of my emotional issues I had in the past to the point where I can shrug off bad beats and continue with my A game.
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02-14-2021 , 05:38 PM
Do you coach? I know you do mental but i prefer the poker part and i dont have instagram to check yours
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02-15-2021 , 09:27 AM
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A post like this would have went over my head a few months ago, this advice is actually gold to someone wanting to improve their mental game.
absolutely thrilled to read posts like this. closely following your PGC! take care and gl on your continued journey!

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Originally Posted by A_Paleface
Congrats on your previous year. Keep up the good work ethic. See you at the tables
thanks bro <3 good to see you back in the mixer

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Originally Posted by Morris2790
Just caught up on last years results! Insane and good luck in 2021 bro!
yo, ty morris. gl in vegas

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Originally Posted by DeNdReTiC
Glad to see you're killing it man keep up the good work! I'm coming back to the game myself and remember you giving me some pointers a few years ago which were really helpful.

Since this thread has mental health in mind, what are your thoughts on microdosing if you have any? It's changed my life completely and fixed a lot of my emotional issues I had in the past to the point where I can shrug off bad beats and continue with my A game.
hey! it's so awesome seeing so many old timers get back into the game. you may remember coinflip_si, he quit poker and worked for a couple years and now coming back to the game.

Wrt microdosing, i feel i have to be really careful what i say. Yes there can be benefits to microdosing for some people, but also, there can be grave detriment to those who are predisposed to being negatively effected by any sort of mind altering drugs.

Good and general therapy is definitely a safer (but slower) road into a top notch mental game in my opinion, though.

I'm really glad to hear you've have a super positive experience!

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Originally Posted by dont3betme
Do you coach? I know you do mental but i prefer the poker part and i dont have instagram to check yours
hey, afraid i don't offer poker coaching, but if you send me a PM with a few details (what limits you play/what you're looking for) i can refer you to a couple coaches who i would hard vouch. cheers!
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04-08-2021 , 02:54 PM
Amazing 2020 results! Congrats!
GL for 2021
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05-11-2021 , 06:54 AM
Yo guys, just a quick one to say i'm doing two twitch streams this week for Mental Health Awareness Week. It'll be Wed/Sat from 6pm GMT with all donations going to charity.

Will be playing 2x500z so come check in if you're about!

glgl
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05-11-2021 , 07:05 AM
Hey man! Saw you in a couple of Nick's videos, definately helped me a lot while moving up in the micros! Will try to drop by the stream on wed
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06-14-2021 , 09:41 AM
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Hey man! Saw you in a couple of Nick's videos, definately helped me a lot while moving up in the micros! Will try to drop by the stream on wed
thanks bro!

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Thought i'd drop in and share my first ever proper highstakes shot

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06-14-2021 , 10:39 AM
I'm sure you don't need to hear it given everything I know about you but keep at it, you'll break into these games and find your groove soon.
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06-14-2021 , 03:16 PM
Do you have 100% of the action? That’s brutal
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06-14-2021 , 04:24 PM
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06-14-2021 , 05:08 PM
brutal, sorry to hear brother

2+2 needs more OPs like you, bena, always so transparent and honest

reg tables I’m assuming, how’s the competition like compared to 500z?
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06-14-2021 , 05:09 PM
In for the regrind, GL!!

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reg tables I’m assuming, how’s the competition like compared to 500z?
I imagine if you are bumhunting and not reg battling, it's pretty similar if not softer than 500z. Just harder to put volume in
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06-14-2021 , 06:32 PM
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I imagine if you are bumhunting and not reg battling, it's pretty similar if not softer than 500z. Just harder to put volume in
I've seen a couple of people say this recently - there are some HS games that run that are softer than 500z when big fish are around but on average the regs playing are way better than the 500z guys.

500z/midstakes in general is full of regs with strategies that are bad/ inflexible enough you can kind of go for max exploit lines in a lot of spots, vs most at HS you just can't get away with such lines and the midstakes tricks quite often just result in you wrecking yourself.

Glgl though Ben, obviously you're easily good enough for these games and just the classic baptism of fire.
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06-14-2021 , 07:11 PM
how are you guys defining hs

5k+?
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06-14-2021 , 07:14 PM
Yeah I was just talking about like 1knl-5knl, since that's probably most relevant to what Bena is playing. A 40k game will still be much harder than 500z even with a big whale, but don't think that a 2k game with a good fish is going to be tougher than the average 500z pool.
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