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prefer a 3bet pre to a flat

as played to get to the flop, being deep and otb, I like to flat IP, if OOP i would check raise most likely

ott when he leads again after leading flop into 3 people and getting called, his range SHOULD be very strong here, so a draw like ours ( big combo draw or maybe nfd ) or 2p+

if V is a fish then he may be overplaying 1p hands like TPTK/OPs, but if he is then raising turn to get him to fold these is optimistic.

ott with this big draw vs reg i would presume we now have dirty outs so would fold, since 9x does hit calling ranges harder than pfr's, therefore if V is reg he will know this and his turn barrel freq will go down. vs a fish who will overplay 1p hands i will call since vs that different range we still have lots of rivers to make money on

Ruffy asks about a hand then immediately reverts back to talking about him running bad when people respond

I should be clear that I would not have made this play vs any of the people outside of the who, (DISCLAIMER At the time) I would consider a good reg, I'm folding turn vs most villains here since the majority of Broadway players are just massive stations and, with the range I'm putting them on here this would be a losing play. I assumed however that, versus a person who sees my image as nitty on a wet board on the river as played that I'm turning up with better than AA the majority of the time so I believed the right amount of fold equity was there.

As far as flatting turn vs a reg, I think if we do that our hand as a draw is essnetially face up and, if the draw gets there, we will get no additional money out of villain here so at the time I thought they only real options for me were raise/fold.

Bitter Nick strikes again.

I believe the correct decision would be to fold and give up on poker

Well I am getting pretty good at Hearthstone tbh.

Update now I have time. I haven't been playing this week since I decided to give myself 3 days to churn out a 3000 word essay on something I had no idea about. All I can say for August is it has been a pretty horrific month for me booking one winning session for this month and a lot of losing ones through a mix of running badly whilst also not playing my best game either as I've had other things to do this month which have put me off actually putting much time into studying/theory. But it happens. Poker is a game of swings and its important to recognize that.

Only interesting hand I can think of which which I'm sure HU4Hoes wants me to post goes as follows

Villain 1 (£500~) - Resident Whale and the clear mark of the game who has a vpip close to 100%.

Villain 2 (£500~) - Weak player who calls with a pretty wide range. From history postflop he usually barrels very small (£25 on river into £200 when checked to him etc) with like 2nd/3rd pair where you can just call him off pretty confidently with like top pair etc.

Villain 3 (HU4HOES £400~) - Clear donkey who gets it in AIP 150bb effective with the resident whale with ace high and loses to whales AK! In all seriousness the only villain reg in the hand and losing a decent amount this session so far. He knows I'm pretty tight and knows it going to be hard to us to get it in without it being cooler-esque

Hero (£800~)

Whale opens EP to £10, Villain 2 calls, Villain 3 calls, I call in SB with 6 4 since we're all deep enough for it to be profitable esp with the whale in the hand. BB folds

Flop (£42)
A 7 5

I check, V1 checks, V2 bets £25, V3 raises to £55, I flat, V1 folds, V2 calls.

When V3 raises here I'm pretty sure he's strong as I don't think he'd be trying to steal here because the whale is in the hand who doesn't like to fold that much so bluffing is ineffective. He also makes it relatively small to induce so maybe like A7/A5/77/55/AJ/AQ/Axcc/75. I think 4-betting isn't really the best play if I'm ranging him on that as he's most likely going to be shoving most of that range in case I have a draw like I do.

Turn (£207)
4

I check, V2 checks, V3 checks

This is interesting here as when he's in position here and checks I think his range is narrowed down to AQ/AJ/Axcc/75 here as he's definately betting his sets on this board along with his top 2 type of hands to as there are a lot of draws that he isn't going to be giving free cards to.

River (£207)
10

I lead here for £130, V2 folds, V3 shoves for £330. Hero folds

I know nits gonna nit etc but against most over villains I'm just calling to taking the variance but there is a clear dynamic here where I don't think HU4Hoes almost never jamming here with worse with the history that we have and he can be playing Axcc definately like this here. It's one of those spots that I can't imagine him turning up with worse and there aren't that many bluffs/other hands that he's ever jamming for value here that we beat. Maybe we should have just taken a c/c line here but I think I'd be letting V2 off light here when he'd be paying me off like like weird straight/2 pair hands and I assume V3 would be folding out worse most of the time.

Anyway villain tells me later he had AQo with the A and he shoved as he had the blocker so GJ at levelling me Jason but you still got it in pre against Rosco when you were behind so you're not allowed full bragging rights.

3bet flop due to being oop

flat ip imo

wp jason

wrong HH
it's V1 who bets flop for £15, V2 calls. they both fold on the flop to my raise

and i do have bragging rights, i got out of it
get in 150bbs pre for image posting ldo
see i don't play a hand for hours and that black guy still knew i was more lag than you :P

I didn't raise flop as I thought he was strong and V2 is a fish and I'd rather keep him in if I get there to.

Ye it was last week and I didn't write down entire HH I knew you'd want it for said bragging rights V2 was 100% in after the flop though as that was a big part of me betting river.

As for the black guy(V2) I had history with him and he thinks I'm a nit because of things like not completing from the sb in a limped pot with any 2. He is awful but always ends up loads because he runs like God though.

second reason is a good reason to flat i agree

first reason is contradictory with what you wrote about him raising AQ/AJ for thin value vs whale. vs the range your initially put him on 3betting flop is great because are oop with 6 high vs a reg. loads of equity vs strong hands and will get lots of folds too

This is a pretty interesting hand.I think 3betting flop is ok as the majority of the time were gonna get loads of folds from villain as our range is now super strong, generally sets top 2 or nfds and thin value, especially with this sizing is villains most likely holding by far. Problem with 3betting is that were gonna 3b to £130, £140 and then have to stack off for the rest calling £260 into £620.

I gather villains range will look something like this (it's possible he might flat some of these combos but anyway):
Board: Ad7c5c
Equity Win Tie
CO 59.65% 59.65% 0.00% { AA, 77, 55, A7s, A5s, AcKc, AcQc, AcJc, AcTc, Ac9c }
BB 40.35% 40.35% 0.00% { 6c4c }

Actually doesn't seem a problem at all, you have more equity than I thought you would against this gii range. I think this 3b call off line is best as we can get him to fold out all Ax and Kxcc hands.

As played though I'd probably fold river aswell.

Update. This month I've been mixing in live 4/5/6 PLO into my routine whilst playing holdem on the better days in Birmingham which are usually Friday/Sunday. I personally feel like the games in Birmingham for holdem, outside of aforementioned days, is becoming pretty terrible as there is a surplus of good younger regs and as a result the average fishy regs has resorted to nut peddling in order to try and beat the games as I assume that when they were playing a wider range of hands like a fish would, they were getting crushed. As a contrast to this, I look at the PLO tables which are running just as regularly and the standard of play is literally terrible with hardly any decent regs at all (as an example, as I was playing on saturday a fish pots me on the river for £200 on a J287J board to which I fold my straight just for him to proudly show what he thought was quads in his hand only to realise that he only had one Jack and was actually playing trips. This guy was £1.5k deep and was arguably the best player at that table)

The downside to this is obviously far bigger variance, especially because the game is mostly 5/6 Omaha, but even so, higher variance doesn't equate to lower edge and I feel that the games are beatable if you have the roll to take said swings which, in the position I'm currently in where I don't have much in outgoing costs and a pretty secure roll I think it is worth taking a shot and the general consensus online it seems is, if you are fortunate to have a Omaha game going, you should probably be playing it. Regardless only time will tell (Inb4 OP is busto playing with all his roll on the line)

This month has been going pretty well anyway near enough to +£900 from playing PLO/Holdem. I actually wrote down every hand I played/opened on my Saturday holdem session which I might post sometime but that takes time so I'll have to see.

So update for the month. I think the tldr of it is that I've been running horribly for the second month in a row. I'm pretty happy with how I'm playing though as I'm getting it in in a lot of good spots but simply not holding or getting there in said spots. Since the last update I'm -£1400ish for the month which especially sucks since this was the last time I'd be able to play as much volume as I have before as Uni starts again next week. The only silver lining I have this month really is that the person I stake has ran pretty golden overall and I'll be settling with him next week for a pretty large amount. Because of these last two months it's going to be a real grind to get to my original target for the year which is pretty depressing but at least I've still got 3 months to try and get there.

Just doing a 3, 4 hours grind at prime time is good enough to make at least £1k/month, that's only £100/day counting losing days as well. It's doable, so i don't think Uni will get in too much of the way of achieving your target.

Gl at the table

If I minus the money I've made from staking, I'm going to have to make a lot more than £1k a month for the next 3 months so get there though unfortunately.

Necro bump I guess?

Since last time I posted I've been pretty busy with Uni stuff so I haven't been putting in the grind I was during the summer but I've still locked up ~£2k in profit from the limited time I've been playing so I'm out of my downswing I guess.

I settled with the guy I was staking over the summer for a nice £2.6k profit which at least made me feel a bit better about my own downswing. Currently staking a different guy whose doing well for me to so we'll have to see if my staking run good continues.

As far as online, since I haven't been able to play live much I've been grinding the $15 Spin and Go's and which has been going pretty well getting about ~$1500 in profit over the last two weeks from them, despite only having one 25x as my biggest multiplier which I bricked along with five 10x's which I've bricked three of. But whatever I can't really complain.

For the rest of the year I'll be putting in a reasonable amount of volume but nothing crazy since my uni schedule is pretty restrictive for how much I can play but I reckon, if I add in staking at least, I'll get to the £12k for live this year which I'll be pretty happy with considering I haven't really been running particularly good at any point of the year really. Only thing I can say is I hope I don't go into another downswing and can ride out the year reasonable well.

Because I hardly update anymore here are some mildly interesting HHs from the which I don't know if I played badly or not

The "Should I value bet hand"



The "Am I getting the right price hand"



The "Do I just pay this guy off hand"



The "I have top pair I'm not folding **** you hand"



The "Can I call with second pair here hand"

Check calling with the JJ on the flop is pretty bad. You will hardly ever win that hand. Just cbet or check fold.

The plan was to c/f there but the fact that he's betting £25 into £95 is usually a sign of weakness there and there are plenty of draws/worse hands that may bet there like 85/89/810 that just want to take it there. I feel if I call I can reevaluate on the turn if he decides to bet again, and with those hands I'm sure after I c/c he'll just want to get to showdown where I win.

November Update;

As far as this month goes, it was refreshing to actually run good and not constantly be getting sucked out on which had been the tldr of August-October. From 1st November I've made

- £2500 live playing purely cash at Broadway/Gala
- £1000 from Spin and Go's mainly in the 15's
- £1000 from coming 2nd in some 5.50 turbo online
- £500 from horses

As far as getting to £12k from Live though, I probably need another £2500 month to hit the target if I'm excluding staking and online and December is a month where I don't expect to get as much volume in so I'm unsure if it's achievable but we'll see. Next year I'll probably be making another goals thread where I'll be shooting for £15-20k next year considering that, for the first 4-5 months of this thread, I really wasn't playing seriously in terms of volume, skill and how deep I was playing which I'm far more comfortable buying in for max and reloading whenever needed as opposed to the start of the year.

So the year has come to the end and I'd like to think overall it has been pretty successful. In my limited time playing in December I managed to squeeze out just over £1k profit which I'm happy with and as far as my overall goal I just did the numbers and I think I'm just under what I wanted to get which I can live with considering between August to the end of September I was on a £4-5k downswing and I've definately been on the bad end of coolers a lot more than the good end this year. But on the flip side I've been successful with the people I've picked to back and ran good in that respect putting me past the £12k mark I wanted to hit.

As far as my skill level, I feel like I am now miles better than I was at the start of the year. Right now I feel most comfortable playing in 200bb+ games as opposed to at the start of the year where I was too scared to play 100bb deep at Broadway where my range was so nitty and exploitable I feel bad thinking about it. I've been able to disassociate myself with the money on the table to, possibly because I'm actually appropriately rolled to play these games now meaning that I'm working on trying to play optimally and making the correct calls/bluffs regardless of how much it will cost me to do it. I definitely take the philosophy that I'd rather play good and run average than play average and run good and that I should be looking over long term results to find my true live EV. I still have leaks that I definitely need to plug before I'm going to start crushing the Birmingham games and potentially travelling to take shots at different places but for my first year playing live, I think I definitely have an edge in the majority of games that run in Birmingham which I'm happy enough with.

My goals for 2015 look something like
- Focusing on playing the deepest games in Birmingham possible
- Continue studying/looking to leaks in my game I can plug
- Stop playing nightly donkaments
- Actually travel to different places to find different games
- Start playing better structured, higher entry tournaments like GPS/DTD/other now I'm rolled to do so.
- Try and take at least some shots in higher juicer games if/when they come along.
- Continue trying to find competent people to stake
- Run better (hardest task obv)

I'll probably open another thread some time in January and I'll try to make it more interesting than this one where I just gave boring updates/HH and stop talking about hands where I have AA/KK .

GL to everyone playing in 2015

from what i've read and seen since playing with you more recently, defo a significant improvement from the early posts in terms of thought process etc

the deeper/bigger live games run much better when they are 5-6 handed rather than 3-4 handed, so i hope to see you sitting when they run!

gl and keep working on that gurn eh?

wp ruffy

- well done for for somewhat making your goal

- how will you ever compete with hmj for being the best in Birmingham?

- Plz don't do drugs

- will I fold kings to you pre in 2015?

- Gl