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05-30-2015 , 07:15 AM
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I have noticed that sometimes the Bovada 50nl plays like 5nl and at other times it plays like 400nl.
That's what it seems like to me so far. Keep up the progress, gl!
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06-01-2015 , 07:34 PM
I've been playing mostly PLO lately. It has been going really well up until today I am down a few buyins. I got bored of the Hold'Em grind so I figured I'd switch it up, at least temporarily.

I cashed out $370 from ACR and will be redepositing it on Bovada when I get my check.

One thing is for certain.. the weekend games on Bovada are way better than weekdays. I saw less than 3 regs the entire weekend playing PLO50. I've seen about a dozen today.

May 2015 Graph:

(Redline is still awful?)

Winnings Summary:


-138.92
Bankroll: 3006.45
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06-01-2015 , 09:12 PM
Probably is softer overall on the weekend's but maybe after your earlier post about how soft the plo games were might of enticed a few ppl into playing them, never a good idea to alert others about soft games. Also why do you post your stats/%'s?
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06-03-2015 , 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by 4GET2PWNED0
Probably is softer overall on the weekend's but maybe after your earlier post about how soft the plo games were might of enticed a few ppl into playing them, never a good idea to alert others about soft games. Also why do you post your stats/%'s?
I think the games are just worse on the weekday afternoons but I agree that posting about soft games probably isn't the greatest idea.

I post my stats/%'s because I have had no coaching aside from the occasional training video, and I am open to any comments about my game. Most of my play is self-taught so I know there are areas where I need work and by posting my stats it allows for accurate criticisms in regards to my playstyle.

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PLO is a very dangerous game. I'll be following 100BI+ BRM from now on in regards to PLO. So at least $5k roll before I even step into those games again. It's way worse than it looks, too.



-212.22
Bankroll: $2794.23

Last edited by bm303; 06-03-2015 at 08:51 PM.
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06-08-2015 , 11:30 AM
Just read the whole thread, seems like you're definately improving since you first started.

Subbed. Keep up the hard work bro.
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06-09-2015 , 01:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Panlux
Just read the whole thread, seems like you're definately improving since you first started.

Subbed. Keep up the hard work bro.
Hey Panlux!

Thanks for checking out my thread. I really appreciate the words of encouragement. I plan on posting more HH's in the future... I think it will make the thread more interesting for the viewers. I do post HH's often, just not in this thread.

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Fortunately, things have turned around after dropping 12 buyins in the first few days of the month.

I didn't even consider buying in short to the PLO games. If I did half-buy I would have over 100 buyins for 50PLO at the moment. Playing nitty in these games and being patient is sooo profitable.

My WPN check should be here any day. I'll be putting that back on Bovada so I can work on hitting the $5k mark and move up to 100NL.

Once my cable company gets my internet issues situated, I'll also be playing MTTs one day a week. I miss that final table feeling!

Shortening my sessions and taking breaks/days off seems to be helping my mental game as well. I was definitely playing sessions that were too long and playing too many days in a row.

June 1-7 Graph:


+366.06
Bankroll: $3160.29

Last edited by bm303; 06-09-2015 at 01:51 AM.
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06-13-2015 , 02:04 AM
Last 2 days in summary below. The heater is in full effect. My 80/20s are holding, I am on the good end of the coolers, and I am playing great.

(I should have bet flop larger)

    Bovada, $0.25/$0.50 No Limit Hold'em Cash, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $50.25 (100.5 bb)
    BB: $51 (102 bb)
    Hero (UTG+1): $172.31 (344.6 bb)
    UTG+2: $33.25 (66.5 bb)
    MP1: $77.80 (155.6 bb)
    MP2: $46.04 (92.1 bb)
    MP3: $48.70 (97.4 bb)
    CO: $63.20 (126.4 bb)
    BTN: $24.75 (49.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+1 with 9 9
    Hero raises to $1.50, 3 folds, MP3 calls $1.50, 3 folds, BB calls $1

    Flop: ($4.75) J T 9 (3 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets $2.87, MP3 folds, BB raises to $7.24, Hero calls $4.37

    Turn: ($19.23) 8 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: ($19.23) 9 (2 players)
    BB bets $12, Hero raises to $55.23, BB calls $30.26 and is all-in

    Spoiler:
    Results: $103.75 pot ($3 rake)
    Final Board: J T 9 8 9
    SB mucked 8 K and lost (-$0.25 net)
    BB mucked J J and lost (-$51.00 net)
    Hero showed 9 9 and won $100.75 ($49.75 net)
    UTG+2 mucked Q 2 and lostMP1 mucked T 3 and lostMP2 mucked 5 8 and lostMP3 mucked T A and lost (-$1.50 net)
    CO mucked 2 7 and lostBTN mucked 6 A and lost


    +444.36
    Bankroll: $3604.65
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    06-16-2015 , 05:26 PM
    Yet another month where I crush NLHE and get crushed at PLO. I am done with PLO for awhile. I am very confident with my NLHE game right now and I know I can crush it every month. If I stay out of the PLO games I should be able to hit the $5k mark next month and move up to 100NL and be comfortably rolled.

    I'm still not entirely sure if I just run bad at PLO or if I am actually just really bad at it. The games are ridiculously soft, it just seems like every time I get it 65/35 I lose.

    June 1-15 50NL Graph:


    June 1-15 50PLO Graph:


    GL at the tables everyone. Thanks for following my thread!

    +18.74
    Bankroll: $3623.12
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    06-23-2015 , 04:56 AM
    Quick update:

    Played Mad Monday and about 7 other MTTs today, lost about $250. Ran as bad as possible. Got it in with 70-80% equity a few times fairly deep into the tourneys and busted every one. Got limped by AA twice which induced me to shove broadways around 10bb deep. Got backdoored countless times. I cashed one $10 MTT for $27.

    I then started to play some cash and continued to run really bad. I ended up down $325 for the day or so. I plan on taking a day or two off to get these coolers out of my head.

    I am up about $1.3k this month in Hold'Em, down about $300 in MTTs, and down about $650 in PLO. I plan on not playing anything but NL cash games until I hit at least $5k. I really want to move up to 100NL ASAP. I am crushing the NL games this month at roughly 23bb/100(20bb EV) over 12k hands. Hopefully I can recover this 6.5 buyin downswing today and get back on track to hitting the $5k mark.

    -196.58
    Bankroll:$3426.54
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    06-24-2015 , 10:37 AM
    I nearly never shove Broadway's over limpers m5-10 late in mtts unless soul reads.
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    06-24-2015 , 01:18 PM
    are you just playing FR or 6 max NL as well
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    06-24-2015 , 04:23 PM
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    Originally Posted by LoudPacquiao
    are you just playing FR or 6 max NL as well
    Both, roughly 70% 6-max and 30% full ring. I am getting more comfortable playing short handed so I have been transitioning over to 6max mostly. Although I still think full ring is great if you want low variance, sustained winrates.

    A few posts ago I posted my winning summary which showed exactly how many hands I played in may for all game types.

    Right now my focus is on 6max unless I am doing something else, such as playing PS4, I will fire up 4 full ring tables and just play them on the side.
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    06-26-2015 , 09:42 AM
    Seems like you have a "plo problem" honestly. A few times ITT you have vowed to stay away from PLO, then a few posts later you are back at it!

    Best of luck
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    06-26-2015 , 12:34 PM
    after skimming this thread i think maybe if you put all your time into mtts your br would be much higher right now. why not just stick to multitabling mtts from now on? its all about the bottom line really so stick to what makes you the most money!
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    06-26-2015 , 02:52 PM
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    Originally Posted by thehacker0
    Seems like you have a "plo problem" honestly. A few times ITT you have vowed to stay away from PLO, then a few posts later you are back at it!

    Best of luck
    You are absolutely correct. Since my last update I am up a few hundred at NLHE and down about 10 BI at PLO. I will (actually) be staying away from PLO for the near future, lol.
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    06-26-2015 , 03:50 PM
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    Originally Posted by ih8ustfu
    after skimming this thread i think maybe if you put all your time into mtts your br would be much higher right now. why not just stick to multitabling mtts from now on? its all about the bottom line really so stick to what makes you the most money!
    Thanks for the tip. I sort of agree with you, mostly due to the rake I am paying at the moment. I am paying about $1300/month in rake, so about 1 buyin per day at 50nl. The issue is that I can't handle the 9 hour sessions with no breaks. My game suffers and I start playing poorly. So being able to play 2 or 3 hours and then take a few hours off and come back later that day is best for me at the moment.
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    06-26-2015 , 05:09 PM
    Plo8 is the way.
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    06-29-2015 , 02:11 AM
    Quick update:

    Moved up to 100NL this weekend. Some Zone, nitring and regular 6max. I've been playing really well and running well too. Down $1100 this month at 50PLO. I am officially retired and will be playing Hold'Em from here on out. I am up about 2k this month at Hold'Em. I'll be sticking with 100NL unless I drop below $3k at any point. I know I can handle the 100NL games and paying 20 buyins/month in rake at 50NL is killing me. So I plan on sticking with 100NL until I hit 10k.

    I am also trying to fix my sleep schedule somewhat. I usually stay up until about 4 am. Which is actually good for poker but bad for my health. So I am slowly going to move my schedule back to waking up around 11am each day. Being rested and having a somewhat normal schedule is probably more +EV than playing poker at 3 am. We'll see.

    +644.15
    Bankroll: $4070.69
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    06-30-2015 , 03:21 AM
    Rough day. KK into AA twice for nearly full stacks. AK into AA on KJ3r board for a big pot too. Backdoored by a few straights and flushes over my sets. 2.6 buyins is really not that bad considering how poor I ran overall. My game definitely fell off toward the end but I didn't make any 'critical' errors. I just ran bad. I'll continue playing 100NL as long as I am comfortable and over 30 buyins.

    Off to bed, goodnight.

    -257.05
    Bankroll: $3813.64
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    07-02-2015 , 03:04 AM
    July Graph:


    Winnings Summary:


    Overall the month went well. Besides the PLO.

    This month has been terrible. I am disgusted right now and tilting hard. Nobody gives a **** about bad beat stories but let's just say AA cracked by weaker aces twice in the last 2 hours, KK < A6, QQ<QJ for stacks. All of this is preflop. Took about four three outers as well. And a nice 2 outer to finish off the night against 66 for stacks on a J94 board. Feels great.

    I started the day at $4k.


    **** 100NL.

    -452.09
    Bankroll: $3361.55
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    07-04-2015 , 05:03 AM
    I took a day off since that awful tilt session and got back to playing a bit last night.

    I was up $600 at one point today, sitting with $4k bankroll. I made it all playing full ring 100NL. Then I switched to 6max and lost a bunch. Took a few coolers and suckouts for 300BB pots. Got it in with a set vs 5 hi flush draw on the turn for 300bb and lost. Got set over setted for stacks.

    I seem to do so much better playing 9max so I should probably just forget the 6max and short handed games. I am -$500 EV in the 6max games in the last 1500 hands, so that doesn't help my confidence there either.

    I was doing better with the tilt issue but got pretty tilted losing $400 of the $600 I was up. I played well and got the stacks in great, just got sucked out on in two big pots. Hopefully one of these days I can win the big pots and get into a comfortable spot with my roll. I know any of the last few sessions could have been a 4 figure difference if I ran better. I hope it's only a matter of time until I can have some big results for the effort I am putting in.

    +210.45
    Bankroll: $3572.0

    Last edited by bm303; 07-04-2015 at 05:10 AM.
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    07-05-2015 , 11:00 AM
    @bm303
    Hey man,
    I just subbed. Out of curiosity how did you originally start on Bovada? 5NL? SnGs? Any zoom? I have recently deposited $75 on Bovada and can't seem to figure out what I should play. In the past I have multi tabled 5NL and SnGs and have had some success with the DoNs and TU SnGs in particular, but then gambled it away on house games or sports like you've stated in the OP haha. I also don't have a HUD but that's because I feel as if these microstakes should still be very beatable regardless and that can be an investment further down the line. I have recently started writing down big hands and looking at them later, but I'm not sure if I am necessarily using the HH information to my benefit. Thanks for any advice in advance.

    Rianwanibazn
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    07-05-2015 , 01:48 PM
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    Originally Posted by Rianwanibazn
    @bm303
    Hey man,
    I just subbed. Out of curiosity how did you originally start on Bovada? 5NL? SnGs? Any zoom? I have recently deposited $75 on Bovada and can't seem to figure out what I should play. In the past I have multi tabled 5NL and SnGs and have had some success with the DoNs and TU SnGs in particular, but then gambled it away on house games or sports like you've stated in the OP haha. I also don't have a HUD but that's because I feel as if these microstakes should still be very beatable regardless and that can be an investment further down the line. I have recently started writing down big hands and looking at them later, but I'm not sure if I am necessarily using the HH information to my benefit. Thanks for any advice in advance.

    Rianwanibazn
    Hey Rian!

    I made a few deposits ranging from $20-$60. Busted about 5 of them until the final $50 deposit. I was playing a mix of things. Usually 5NL or 5NL Zone. Some 5PLO and the nightly $1-2 MTTs. Once I hit about $100 I was playing a lot of the $5 DoN's and found them very good for sustained bankroll building.

    I don't think it is critical for you to be reviewing hands and using a HUD at 5NL. Once you are grinding 25NL consistently, so roughly a $750+ bankroll, you could invest in these things. I think hand reviewing it critical for my game but I am playing 50NL+. You don't need hand review to beat 5NL. Just play a tight, solid game. Don't bluff.

    If your goal is strictly to improve your player reads then stay out of the Zone games. But I had a lot of success at 10NL zone in regards to building my roll. I now really enjoy the higher stakes Zone games as well.

    I would suggest a mix of every game format when first getting started. Try them all. Figure out what you like. One benefit of this is that it teaches you all stages of tournament play. DoN play is great to learn ICM and bubble play. HUSNGS are great for final tables. Cash is good for the early stages of MTTs. And the fast-fold Zone games will help you make decisions based upon the action, not player reads.

    So I'd stick with some relatively passive bankroll management until you get comfortable. 5NL, the $3 SnGs and the $5 DoN's.

    If you have any intention of making poker a serious hobby/career then you should request a ban from all house games ASAP. If you are playing strictly for fun and don't mind losing on house games then it's no big deal. I personally cannot mentally handle losing to the house so I got myself banned from all house games on all sites. If you really want to gamble your money then your probably better off shot taking at poker vs playing house games.

    Thanks for following. Feel free to ask any questions you want.
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    07-05-2015 , 02:39 PM
    Thanks for all of the advice! One question I do have regarding 5nl is how do you improve if you aren't beating 5nl if you're not reviewing hands, etc?
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    07-05-2015 , 02:56 PM
    I just read your thread and it got me pretty motivated.
    I want to deposit the initial 1k.
    In your opinion how would you go about clearing the bonus?
    I am thinking the zone games as long as i can break even or better?
    I usually play full ring though...
    I am comfy at 10nl on carbon.
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