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Living in Thailand on 0/Month - 100BI's, 1 Year Expenses Living in Thailand on 0/Month - 100BI's, 1 Year Expenses

11-20-2019 , 02:45 PM
I lurk a ton of pgc threads about live poker. I think this is the first online one that seems very interesting to me.
Gl!
11-20-2019 , 02:53 PM
Damn what about retirement? All well guess you think month to month. How much could you make doing a regular job? More than what you make?
11-20-2019 , 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jmurjeff
Damn what about retirement? All well guess you think month to month. How much could you make doing a regular job? More than what you make?
Not gonna make **** if I commit suicide

Grinding 200NL at 3bb with tiny rakeback over 7 years with intelligent investments and intelligent lifestyles, I would bet I would fair better than 90% of Americans once I hit 40 to 45 years old.
11-20-2019 , 03:14 PM
Gl man. This seems like prison to me lol, grinding 100k hands a month and eating rice every meal. But to each is own and hope you succeed.
11-20-2019 , 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
Not gonna make **** if I commit suicide

Grinding 200NL at 3bb with tiny rakeback over 7 years with intelligent investments and intelligent lifestyles, I would bet I would fair better than 90% of Americans once I hit 40 to 45 years old.
I wouldn't doubt you fairing better than most Americans as most don't have anything saved. I actually think what you are doing is not that bad. I wouldn't need much to live but I don't think I would live on your food budget. Then again it is probably a lot cheaper to eat out there. But hey at least you are independent.
11-20-2019 , 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
Not gonna make **** if I commit suicide

Grinding 200NL at 3bb with tiny rakeback over 7 years with intelligent investments and intelligent lifestyles, I would bet I would fair better than 90% of Americans once I hit 40 to 45 years old.
gotcha on the passive income. Thread stirred my interest, though I don't know if kitty would like Thailand. Well over 1.5k per month passive.
11-20-2019 , 06:50 PM
GL brother, this looks like it could be a fun read
11-20-2019 , 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
Not gonna make **** if I commit suicide

Grinding 200NL at 3bb with tiny rakeback over 7 years with intelligent investments and intelligent lifestyles, I would bet I would fair better than 90% of Americans once I hit 40 to 45 years old.
but theres no way u can hit 3bb at 200nl when u can barely beat 25nl after all these years and also think a major concrete city is a beach destination.

The dumbest thing in this thread is you playing a ton of 25nl tables with no rakeback. On party or other shitty sites you'd make 5-10$ an hour in rakeback if not more.
11-21-2019 , 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by dumbrussianlol
but theres no way u can hit 3bb at 200nl when u can barely beat 25nl after all these years and also think a major concrete city is a beach destination.

The dumbest thing in this thread is you playing a ton of 25nl tables with no rakeback. On party or other shitty sites you'd make 5-10$ an hour in rakeback if not more.
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11-21-2019 , 07:42 AM
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Originally Posted by dumbrussianlol
but theres no way u can hit 3bb at 200nl when u can barely beat 25nl after all these years and also think a major concrete city is a beach destination.

The dumbest thing in this thread is you playing a ton of 25nl tables with no rakeback. On party or other shitty sites you'd make 5-10$ an hour in rakeback if not more.
If his goal is to reach 200nl, then we should definitely assume he’ll keep working on his game. With his brm he’ll have plenty of time to do so. Obsessively spending countless days and nights thinking about poker without spending time with irrelevant things like spending money (on things that doesn’t impact your immediate survival) may make wonders.

But since op offered coaching, even though it’s very cheap, now I think you should improve your resume. Show at least a 4 bb/100 over 300k hands of 25z on stars and I’m sure you’ll get clients for your hourly

Anyway, GL, really hope you’ll succeed.
11-21-2019 , 08:28 AM
I suppose I'll announce that a high stakes NL player who has a few mid to high stakes students has accepted a contract with me for 60k, 50/50 splits.

He agreed to pay for my first few months living expenses if I start off shaky and don't profit. I will be 4 tabling normal tables on a softer site at 100NL to start.

To Fazendeiro's post about getting 4bb at 25NL zoom. This is totally unnecessary if I'm charging $50/month lol - getting 1.6bb 4 tabling zoom while in a massive mindset paralyzing mood over a course of 6 weeks, to me, is very good. Let's be honest. If you are struggling to beat 5NL on any site, my abilities are already light years ahead of yours. Having 100NL+ winrate samples would just be overkill at that point lol

This means that even when I was playing my B game and C+ most of the time, I could still noticeably profit while playing 1000/hands per hour

If you go down to 2 zoom tables and I played my A game, I would certainly have hit minimum 3BB.

My main goal with that time span was not so much to make profits but to get a lot of hands in because I was also studying 5 hours daily.

Anyway I'm going to sweat and bleed poker every day for the next year with my new coach on this new site and all you haters are gonna wish your work ethic matched your level of negativity

For sure you will soon see posts of 18 year old angel faced hookers. Because I got no patience for the emotional roller coaster these bitches be putting you through.

Please subscribe.

Last edited by p0ker_n00b; 11-21-2019 at 08:36 AM.
11-21-2019 , 08:50 AM
The 4bb/100 is for credibility, potential students can´t really know you´re in a massive paralyzing mood. All they have to judge (before actually receiving the coaching obv) are your results, and no matter the price, there´s a minumum expected winrate. If 4 bb too high for 4 tabling 25z, make it 3.5 lol. I hope you didn´t imply I am also a hater here. As someone interested in getting a uNL coach next year, I think my points are perfectly reasonable. Anyway, GL!
11-21-2019 , 08:58 AM
I always thought about playing and visiting / living in Thailand. I always thought that I would need more funds for such a life. But now i think i was wrong.
BTW your place is better than my dormitory 😆
Best of luck mate !
11-21-2019 , 09:16 AM
Good luck sir. Congrats on the deal.

This thread reminds me the Broke brothers grinding and partying in Cambodia. Minus the partying.

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...bodia-1424119/
11-21-2019 , 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by FazendeiroBH
I hope you didn´t imply I am also a hater here.
Def not u lol
11-21-2019 , 10:03 AM
Holy fk. I have so many things to say about this. You and I are basically doing the same thing but with extremely different approaches. My weekly expenses are 5 times higher than your monthly nut lmao. I wouldn't rent out my balcony for 2100 a month so well done on the place!

I'll be pretty ***** impressed if after a few months you're still doing this thing on $200/month and aren't completely suicidal. $25 entertainment? What does that entail exactly?

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Also bitches cost money.
Not necessarily true. You can cop mad freerolls on the girlies, but this will be very difficult living the way you do, especially if you're not willing to buy drinks etc. As old mate said, I'd snap uninstall the Tinder and stay tf away from the girls for as long as possible - if you're anything like me, if there's one thing that will cause you to fail/fall behind it's the fkn girlies getting in the way!

Oh by the way you can definitely save some money on water too. Between us I think we pay ~200-300 baht to get 4-5x~5 gallon bottles delivered to the apartment each week. Just buy in bulk/as much as you can carry home obv instead of those tiny bottles.

What else. Don't bother coaching man. Don't even consider it. Even if you get some 5nl reg as a student, you're really still not qualified to teach them ****. There's really nothing you can teach them they can't learn for free, and they'll benefit from at least attempting to do it themselves. More importantly, the time you waste trying to help others will be WAY better spent doing exercises Lucas gives you/working on improving your game.

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Originally Posted by p0ker_n00b
I suppose I'll announce that a high stakes NL player who has a few mid to high stakes students has accepted a contract with me for 60k, 50/50 splits.

He agreed to pay for my first few months living expenses if I start off shaky and don't profit. I will be 4 tabling normal tables on a softer site at 100NL to start.
I think Lucas is an absolute spastic to give you anywhere near 50% tbh. Obviously 50/50 is the standard for these CFP type deals but I don't think you realise how good of a deal that is for you at this point in your career. You're basically a berakeven micro player at this point, likely pretty confused and if you're anything like I was when I was in your position, not really improving at any acceptable rate.

What you're getting in exchange for your $30k is a methodology that will see you winning at midstakes pretty quickly if you apply yourself. And that's really a tiny price to pay for the skill set to be able to consistently pull a solid hourly playing midstakes. Right now you wouldn't be able to support yourself playing poker if you weren't living in a jail cell eating rice and onion every day. But soon you'll be able to pull out $50+/hour playing midstakes and that is actually a massive massive asset. You can do things with that ability. That's nearly 2x the average hourly rate in the USA. That's a serious skill set you can do stuff with. That asset is worth well over $30k, way way wayyy more. You'll actually be able to order a pad thai and have a beer occasionally, maybe barfine some cuties!

I don't know how long it'll take you to make $60K, but if you've really got 9 hours a day to put into it, I don't think it'll take very long. If I was Lucas I'd have paid you your $200/month and kept every penny of profit til you'd made closer to $100k. Because as soon as the contract is over you now have the skillset to go out and make a lot of money playing poker each year if you work hard.

So you should be really really pleased with the deal you've made in terms of the technical stuff, and you're also pretty damn lucky to get to work with this guy. Once you have your first $10k month you better bloody book a flight to Pattaya to celebrate with us lads. I'll get the champagne and turn the jucuzzi on.

All the best mate. I'm confident you'll do really well esp under Lucas' tuition AINEC.

GL
11-21-2019 , 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by meale
My weekly expenses are 5 times higher than your monthly nut lmao. I wouldn't rent out my balcony for 2100 a month so well done on the place!

Stahp it. Stop bragging lol

I'll be pretty ***** impressed if after a few months you're still doing this thing on $200/month and aren't completely suicidal. $25 entertainment? What does that entail exactly?

Really, I'm fine lol. I started cutting my budget before I moved here so I've had a bit of practice. Obviously once things start to pick up with LUCAS (since you already outed him LOL) I will not be in pure survival mode. For 25 USD/month it generally means every few days I get bubble tea and noodles and maybe once a month I go to a $7 buffet with a friend. This $25 usually hits $50 though so yeah.

Not necessarily true. You can cop mad freerolls on the girlies, but this will be very difficult living the way you do, especially if you're not willing to buy drinks etc. As old mate said, I'd snap uninstall the Tinder and stay tf away from the girls for as long as possible - if you're anything like me, if there's one thing that will cause you to fail/fall behind it's the fkn girlies getting in the way!

Truuuueeeeeee. They can **** off lol. Poker is my life and my wife right now.

Oh by the way you can definitely save some money on water too. Between us I think we pay ~200-300 baht to get 4-5x~5 gallon bottles delivered to the apartment each week. Just buy in bulk/as much as you can carry home obv instead of those tiny bottles.

I don't have a fridge and I refuse to drink warm water so I pay 5 baht per bottle for ice cold water lol

Don't bother coaching man. Don't even consider it. the time you waste trying to help others will be WAY better spent doing exercises Lucas gives you/working on improving your game.

I bolded the part I like the most. Solid advice.

I think Lucas is an absolute spastic to give you anywhere near 50% tbh. Obviously 50/50 is the standard for these CFP type deals but I don't think you realise how good of a deal that is for you at this point in your career. You're basically a berakeven micro player at this point, likely pretty confused

I can say with the most confidence in the world, that he has made a great decision to accept me and I think my work ethic and gameplan has already shown in the thread. Not that it reallllly matters lol but I was a full time pro for 2 years at MD live in Maryland and I'm not really at that "confused" stage anymore. As I told Lucas I do have a fairly solid foundation and I know I can currently beat 100NL 4 tabling on any semi soft site.
I am looking to go the distance though and take 1KNL shots before 2021.


What you're getting in exchange for your $30k is a methodology that will see you winning at midstakes pretty quickly if you apply yourself. And that's really a tiny price to pay for the skill set to be able to consistently pull a solid hourly playing midstakes. Right now you wouldn't be able to support yourself playing poker if you weren't living in a jail cell eating rice and onion every day. But soon you'll be able to pull out $50+/hour playing midstakes and that is actually a massive massive asset. You can do things with that ability. That's nearly 2x the average hourly rate in the USA. That's a serious skill set you can do stuff with. That asset is worth well over $30k, way way wayyy more. You'll actually be able to order a pad thai and have a beer occasionally, maybe barfine some cuties!

lol. **** pad thai and the occasional beer. I would prefer medium rare ribeye, sushi, top shelf margaritas and top shelf bar girls.
I definitely understand and appreciate fully the path Lucas and I agreed on.
I will not disappoint and will show followers of this thread what pure determination to succeed means in practice.


I don't know how long it'll take you to make $60K, but if you've really got 9 hours a day to put into it, I don't think it'll take very long. If I was Lucas I'd have paid you your $200/month and kept every penny of profit til you'd made closer to $100k. Because as soon as the contract is over you now have the skillset to go out and make a lot of money playing poker each year if you work hard.

The $200/month is of course deducted from any winning months. Drop in the bucket for the overall 30k gameplan. But don't give him any ideas, I think the contract is already mutually beneficial lol

So you should be really really pleased with the deal you've made in terms of the technical stuff, and you're also pretty damn lucky to get to work with this guy. Once you have your first $10k month you better bloody book a flight to Pattaya to celebrate with us lads. I'll get the champagne and turn the jucuzzi on.

Mark it. I accept. Top shelf everything for multiple nights lol


All the best mate. I'm confident you'll do really well esp under Lucas' tuition AINEC.

GL
On a more serious note, I am bowing down and leaving my ego at his feet. Total submission. Complete acceptance that his method will work. He apparently saw something in my thread that translates to what he would like to see in a successful player. I'm going to prove him right.

Btw, can we invite the haters to Pattaya too, or are they gonna be too busto to join us?
11-21-2019 , 11:18 AM
Gogogogo start printing
11-21-2019 , 11:37 AM
I hope you do it bro! Let the haters hate. Vision and work ethic is the most dangerous thing an individual can have.
11-21-2019 , 01:10 PM
OP what kind of visa did u get to stay there what are the requirements
11-22-2019 , 07:59 AM
really excited about this thread gl
but please dont study 3 hours EVERY day! you'll burn yourself out
11-22-2019 , 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by IAmCapitano
really excited about this thread gl
but please dont study 3 hours EVERY day! you'll burn yourself out
Why? If that gets him to the mark sooner, 9 to 10 hour work days are normal to climb any corporate ladder. OP is young, he can do it.
11-22-2019 , 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Fiszu
I always thought about playing and visiting / living in Thailand. I always thought that I would need more funds for such a life. But now i think i was wrong.
BTW your place is better than my dormitory ��
Best of luck mate !
You would need about $7,000k. $1,000 for plane ticket, $1,300 for visa, plus it will take your a few months before you even know how to live on $200 in Thailand. Plus 25NL bankroll and 1 year expenses.

Seriously don't go any less than that. It's not good for your mental health.

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Originally Posted by Jordsta
I hope you do it bro! Let the haters hate. Vision and work ethic is the most dangerous thing an individual can have.
Yes.

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Originally Posted by IAmCapitano
really excited about this thread gl
but please dont study 3 hours EVERY day! you'll burn yourself out
No.

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Originally Posted by FutureInsights
Why? If that gets him to the mark sooner, 9 to 10 hour work days are normal to climb any corporate ladder. OP is young, he can do it.
Yes.

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Originally Posted by IllSkill
Gl man. This seems like prison to me lol, grinding 100k hands a month and eating rice every meal. But to each is own and hope you succeed.
Prison, sure. Without the fear of being raped and murdered I suppose

Also Pretty sure Inmates don't drink bubble tea.

Also I remember a Dragon Ball Z episode where Goku or someone entered some time chamber to train and only ate brown rice and nothing else for at least a year. Inspiration.

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Originally Posted by sevendeuce4evr
OP what kind of visa did u get to stay there what are the requirements
It is a one year visa. I had to go to a Vietnam embassy for a few days to complete the paperwork. You might be able to complete it before you arrive I suppose. Spent a bit more than I expected because the first person that spoke to me was a cute massage girl. For 3 days I passed her on my way to snag some food and eventually I gave in. lol.

Requirements are pretty easy. The hardest part is paying a school to make it all official. That costs about $1,000-$1,500. I am a student of a self defense school. Try to do that instead of going to a language school. Unless of course you want to learn Thai. I don't plan on this. I get by fine without knowing any.
11-22-2019 , 05:07 PM
fine
good luck still
and who is that lucas?
11-22-2019 , 05:15 PM
GL dude, but those conditions seem almost worse than a prison sentence.

      
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