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05-14-2018 , 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Oladipo
Rich, Phil Me Up is giving you a lot of valuable advice here, and every one of his assessments in his last post is dead-on. Instead of swallowing your pride and listening, you go on the defensive right away. You should perk up up and pay attention.

I didn’t even address actual poker stuff in my post because I didn’t want to try to build a house with no foundation. But....(it you aren’t going to take any of my or others’ life advice), and you’re going to just keep playing, why don’t you TRY one month of tracking your results? It is blindingly obvious you are hiding your true results. You’re scared to look at what they really are, which is backwards from how it should be. When you find out you’re not a winning player, it will force you to learn how to get better.
Tracking results doesn't even matter. BRM is overrated nonsense too. Especially when playing poker professionally. If you read more Tom McEvoy, you'd know that. It's really more about the thrills, the chills, burning through a BR slowly (gotta draw it out of course), and developing a smug entitlement complex while we're at it. Didn't you know?

*** Except Rich's online results, which are totally sick, and matter alot. Trust him. They are very sick, definitely matter, and are pertinent to this conversation about his getting owned by LA randoms @ 2/5 live.
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05-14-2018 , 10:11 PM
Also, since everyone was too nice to answer "question" of "why would [OP] lie about losing more money". If there was lying involved, then it would be to make it seem like OP's running worse than he is, and make it look like the losses recently are more due to bad luck than bad play.
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05-14-2018 , 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
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Why did you edit your post?

Some nonsense about bread. A Scottish proverb I never heard.
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05-14-2018 , 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
But if I go broke I can just get a job and keep punting. Who needs BRM with that strat?? I have an infinite bankroll =D.
An infinite bankroll of making minimum wage living out of your car?

Sounds fulfilling.

Whole thread is a car crash and actually very sad.

You will do what you wish to do and that's fine, i can't imagine you ever being particularly happy with your situation, and it won't change because from what you have said you have neither the will or intellect to change your situation.

I do however wish you the best of luck with whatever you're doing.
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05-15-2018 , 04:07 AM
if you buy in for less, but the blinds stay the same, are you actually moving down stakes? question for the results tracking nerds itt
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05-15-2018 , 04:47 AM
So the most bizarre thing happened today. While I was sitting at the table the chip runner came over and asked me "Why aren't you playing 5/T?" To which I replied "No money". I've heard that before and it's always funny. In this case it's true. "I've been getting my butt kicked so I'm back here". And then she says "Well you can rebuild your bankroll here". And I'm thinking, are the rest of the players at the table a bunch of slugs?? Wtf? I answer "I don't even know if I'm a winner here". I don't know what to say I mean it's kind of inappropriate to talk about that kind of stuff right in front of everyone.

And about a month or so ago another chip runner came over and whispered to me, again while I'm seated at the table right after a table change "So who are you targeting?" What?! I can't and don't like to whisper. So I just respond "That last table was just really bad"... I mean like wtf is going on. If only these chip runners knew what a loser I am. I don't need anyone pumping up my already overinflated unjustified ego.

Results 5/14: +$395

Feels nice to book a win.

My Two Favorite Words

Hero BTN ($730) AQdd
Villain 1 UTG (covers)
Villain 2 UTG+1 (covers)
Villain 3 MP ($450)
Villain 4 CO (covers)

5 limps in front of Hero on BTN and I make it 30. 4 villains call.

Flop 982ddh ($150)

Everyone checks.

Turn Tc ($150)

V1 bets 55, V2 folds, V3 and V4 call. I think to myself "What would a bad player on a losing streak and scared money do here, just call, well that ain't me!". I announce "All-in" and everyone folds. They ask me what I have and I say I can't say and then they proceed to discuss the hand for 5 minutes. One guy thought I had aces or kings, one guy knew I had a straight, one guy said "you got us thinking" to which I replied "Well I did something right then."

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Originally Posted by Sol Reader
Also, since everyone was too nice to answer "question" of "why would [OP] lie about losing more money". If there was lying involved, then it would be to make it seem like OP's running worse than he is, and make it look like the losses recently are more due to bad luck than bad play.
Yeah and I have more reason to lie about my stack size then Gazzy does(since it's relating to me he has none), so when he claims he is 100000% certain he counted my stack right, even though he wasnt at my table and had a bad angle, I seem like a liar. You shouldn't claim to be certain when you are wrong.

Losing 2k with KK is bad play. Losing 1k with KK is bad luck. So maybe I'm trying to make myself seem like a worse player?

It seems illogical that I would lie about my stack size knowing another poster in this forum is going to call me out on it. I mean the whole table erupted when it happened and I know he turned around to look. I introduced myself to him right after the hand even. But whatever I think I've made it clear I'm right and if you believe Gazzy then I don't care anymore.

Last edited by Rich Checkmaker; 05-15-2018 at 04:53 AM.
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05-15-2018 , 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Eudaimonia
That feeling when you have a -$2500 session at the casino at 2/5 and you still gotta type that **** in... lolz

Even on ignition you have to ****ing manually download stuff and i'm like god damn it hurts when ur losing
Yeah it's horrible keying in a brutal session. Which is probably why more people don't do it. Would be all fun and games to get to just type in however many hundos you won every time.
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05-15-2018 , 08:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
Going to track my results (hours played) once I quit weed. Which may be never. Let me look like the biggest fool in the world if I fail to do this.

Also, I have a flip phone still. Never owned a smart phone, don't want to. Never used an app. I am a different kind of millennial, a ******ed one.
I'm gonna toss in a couple of pennies. Not sure why...

First, this thread is great. I am rooting for you to turn it around, but probably will not pay much attention after you do. Won't be nearly as interesting.

Ive got quite a few years on you but can definitely relate. Been blazing daily for the better part of 3 decades now. Don't plan on stopping but I do take some breaks which are pretty eye opening after a few days. I've never been rolled for 1/2 but have had years where that's the only thing I've done to make money. Prob at +/- $2 per hour lifetime at this point. Last few years i have gotten better. Walked away from my career several years ago and survive only through barter with loving friends and family.

I used to be really intelligent. Weed and not challenging myself has led to a serious decline in my ability to process and retain info. Took me a long time to admit/realize this.

I also use a flip phone. More or less off the grid now.

So, here are some steps i took that you may consider.

1. Bought a spiral notebook for $0.23 and wrote things down. Poker, life, spiritual, whatever.

2. I take a few days off from the bud every now and then. You may find you dont need it or can't handle it like you think you can. You may not like it as much after a break. I sometimes even tell myself I don't want to live high anymore. Doesn't usually last for long but we ain't all Willie.

3. Play to make money, not to out play people. Your hand histories scream FPS. You don't have to prove anything to anybody, anywhere. I've been there.

4. I gave back to family. Love, appreciate, and give your time to your grandmother. Be in the moment when you are with her, even as she talks about the past.

5. I make sure I got wheels. Put money into your car or at least prepare for another. Like Bikeking says, it's the only home you got.

I wish you the best.

For those of you who think this is sad..look around. This is not even a blip on the sadness radar. Trainwreck? Maybe. But if you are trying to help Rich because you feel bad for him, find someone else more deserving of your pity and help. Some people are desperate for advice and support.

Flame away...
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05-15-2018 , 08:19 AM
I don’t even care whether it was true or not, I just think Rich saying “why would I even lie???” earlier is insulting our intelligence, and lashing out at a completely well meaning poster giving advice is extremely distasteful.

I’ve got a lot of empathy and sympathy for people dealing with mental or mindset stuff, but when you start being nasty to other’s, you begin to need to be held accountable.
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05-15-2018 , 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
-Don't know what my winrate is I should probably track it.

-Studying is for nerds. I think about poker all the time and analyze my play and what would be a better play constantly.

-Don't use any kind of software, never have. Yet I'm up tens of thousands of dollars playing online poker.

-I occasionally post and analyze hands in LLSNL.

-Never had any coaching.

-Harrington's books are all published post 2003. So is Greensteins. And others. Also I read Every Hand Revealed. And Tom McEvoy's book. And Mike Caro's Book of Poker Tells is a great book (pre 2003).
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05-15-2018 , 08:59 AM
Having just finished reading this entire thread, it is somewhat a painfully good read.

Not quite sure whether i mean that as a compliment yet but good luck none the less!
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05-15-2018 , 09:57 AM
Legit, OP may be a bit delusional but this thread is a good read
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05-15-2018 , 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by CactusJack
I used to be really intelligent. Weed and not challenging myself has led to a serious decline in my ability to process and retain info. Took me a long time to admit/realize this.
This.
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05-15-2018 , 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by mirage01
Still making money unlike u. Any other questions chump? lolz
You must be printing at 50nl, hence why you haven't moved up after calling 200nl "easy" although you never played it on bonition Whats worse your trolling game or your poker game LOL? Not nice to come in someone elses thread and kick em while theyre down.


Glad ya booked a win yesterday OP. Sounds like you can use a trip to a different casino once in awhile. Howbout the 1/3(300max) or 2/5(500max) at San Manuel once in awhile?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB_LjL0lUJ4
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05-15-2018 , 02:40 PM
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Originally Posted by ALLNITSGOBROKE
You must be printing at 50nl, hence why you haven't moved up after calling 200nl "easy" although you never played it on bonition Whats worse your trolling game or your poker game LOL? Not nice to come in someone elses thread and kick em while theyre down.


Glad ya booked a win yesterday OP. Sounds like you can use a trip to a different casino once in awhile. Howbout the 1/3(300max) or 2/5(500max) at San Manuel once in awhile?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB_LjL0lUJ4
Go back through TT. Rich will not play anything below 2/5 until "desperate". His head is too big. He could probably make a living wage & rebuild his bankroll @ a full stack 1/2-2/3 game if he applied himself (though that's only an optimistic guess because he's already burned through his original BR & doesn't track his results/spending, so who TF knows), but he DGAF. Needling is a methodology meant to break through his ignorance/stubbornness. Certainly coddling/blind encouragement won't help anything -- it's infantlizing/patronizing really. Like I (and others) have stated in various ways, Rich treats poker like a weekend warrior/fantasy camp experience & is terrible at taking feedback. That's certainly his perogative, but it's also face-palm-stupid to anyone even half-experienced/thinking in poker/life.
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05-15-2018 , 03:00 PM
He's a stoner. Self-delusion comes with the territory. As does lack of motivation, paranoia. He's got it all, the classic symptoms.

I've seen it all before many times. I've been there myself.
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05-15-2018 , 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by GazzyB123
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I'm pretty sure you would have won if we fought. Glad you didn't snap accept lol. But you're smart enough to see there's not much value in engaging in a massively negative sum pissing contest. No hard feelings buddy, good luck!

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Originally Posted by Stormtrooper97
I saw on Airbnb rooms in La for like $27 to $37.
Yeah I need to look into it. I've got so much negative momentum wrt my sleeping situation. I just play poker all day til I'm dog tired then pass out in the car. Wake up, rinse, repeat.

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Originally Posted by Sol Reader
I'm sure this has been addressed since the post but, holy hell that's intense. You realise that lying is a normal thing people do. People make white lies all the time, lie about a movie or a meal they got treated they didn't like, or about being busy to hang out when they just wanna do their own thing, and people lie about hands, to not feel embarrassed, or to not make them feel bad.

Like how is a poster who doesn't know you to know you're someone who would never make these kinds of relatively harmless (certainly victimless) lies based solely on your presence on the forums. You shouldn't even trust people I play poker a ton to never lie about important stuff or to lend money and stuff, and that's ACTUALLY something that harms people. Why would it be reasonable to assume some rando you don't know that well would never lie to you about something that doesn't really matter?

Seriously I know people have said this at many points through this thread, and I always knew you were a bit unhinged, but for me this is the straw. Calm down a little. People have the right to be doubtful or suspicious, it's not a huge deal. If you were telling the truth, then you were, how the f were people supposed to know. And on what basis do they have to think Gazzy was lying (or I suppose made a mistake)?

You're saying someone is a dbag for not 100% believing you (he didn't even say he thinks you lied, only that he doesn't know), but they wouldn't be a dbag for disbelieving Gazzy? You're actually being insane.

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LOL literally just a few posts later you say:



SO YOU JUST ADMITTED YOU ARE A LIAR, AND YOU GO OFF AT A GUY FOR SAYING HE DOESN'T KNOW IF YOU LIED OR NOT??
Yeah I need to calm down. Thanks for pointing that out to me and I'm sorry to Oladipo for getting upset that he didn't automatically believe me. It's foolish of me to expect everyone to know the truth not having been there.

I lied to Kai aka stickyrice because I didn't want to upset him. He asked if the board paired on the river in a spot where he clearly boated up without realizing and doubled up a guy who turned a straight. So I lied. And said I didn't remember, which still isn't as bad a lie as saying the board definitely didnt pair. Instead of telling the truth and possibly getting him on tilt to which I would benefit. I instead made the choice to try to protect his feelings. A white lie is different than me materially misrepresenting my experience. I wouldn't do that.

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Originally Posted by Eudaimonia
That feeling when you have a -$2500 session at the casino at 2/5 and you still gotta type that **** in... lolz

Even on ignition you have to ****ing manually download stuff and i'm like god damn it hurts when ur losing
Yeah everyone likes to start keeping records on a win. I've posted all my results since deciding too. Not sure but I would guess my first green or red results post was a win.

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Originally Posted by cheltNAM
An infinite bankroll of making minimum wage living out of your car?

Sounds fulfilling.

Whole thread is a car crash and actually very sad.

You will do what you wish to do and that's fine, i can't imagine you ever being particularly happy with your situation, and it won't change because from what you have said you have neither the will or intellect to change your situation.

I do however wish you the best of luck with whatever you're doing.
I just mean that I can keep adding to my bankroll with a job so in that sense I have an infinite bankroll. It helps my mindset at least in making poker decisions to trick myself into believing that.

Also my last job was working for the state, great job, great co-workers, great location, super chill and making 20$/hour. I could go back whenever I want, I was never late, never called in sick, worked all the overtime they offered and was very professional, polite, and affable. I'm pretty sure everybody there liked me as much as I liked them.

Don't be sad, I'm not. Just enjoy reading and realize I am that last ray of light in pandora's box.

Thanks!

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Originally Posted by DrawNone
if you buy in for less, but the blinds stay the same, are you actually moving down stakes? question for the results tracking nerds itt
Well the 300-500 buy in game has blinds of 5/5 and the 200 game has 3/5 blinds. So different blinds lol.

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Originally Posted by WereBeer
Yeah it's horrible keying in a brutal session. Which is probably why more people don't do it. Would be all fun and games to get to just type in however many hundos you won every time.
I think we can get past that.

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Originally Posted by CactusJack
I'm gonna toss in a couple of pennies. Not sure why...

First, this thread is great. I am rooting for you to turn it around, but probably will not pay much attention after you do. Won't be nearly as interesting.

Ive got quite a few years on you but can definitely relate. Been blazing daily for the better part of 3 decades now. Don't plan on stopping but I do take some breaks which are pretty eye opening after a few days. I've never been rolled for 1/2 but have had years where that's the only thing I've done to make money. Prob at +/- $2 per hour lifetime at this point. Last few years i have gotten better. Walked away from my career several years ago and survive only through barter with loving friends and family.

I used to be really intelligent. Weed and not challenging myself has led to a serious decline in my ability to process and retain info. Took me a long time to admit/realize this.

I also use a flip phone. More or less off the grid now.

So, here are some steps i took that you may consider.

1. Bought a spiral notebook for $0.23 and wrote things down. Poker, life, spiritual, whatever.

2. I take a few days off from the bud every now and then. You may find you dont need it or can't handle it like you think you can. You may not like it as much after a break. I sometimes even tell myself I don't want to live high anymore. Doesn't usually last for long but we ain't all Willie.

3. Play to make money, not to out play people. Your hand histories scream FPS. You don't have to prove anything to anybody, anywhere. I've been there.

4. I gave back to family. Love, appreciate, and give your time to your grandmother. Be in the moment when you are with her, even as she talks about the past.

5. I make sure I got wheels. Put money into your car or at least prepare for another. Like Bikeking says, it's the only home you got.

I wish you the best.

For those of you who think this is sad..look around. This is not even a blip on the sadness radar. Trainwreck? Maybe. But if you are trying to help Rich because you feel bad for him, find someone else more deserving of your pity and help. Some people are desperate for advice and support.

Flame away...
Yeah thanks the challenge will be to keep this thread entertaining once I've reduced my chance of failure to zero. Maybe I'll just never do that.

I post the most interesting hands and yeah some of them could be described as FPS. But for the record I'm at times the tightest player at the table and probably the whole casino. I'm a rock. Just patiently waiting. But yeah I could get more solid for sure.

And I agree I definitely need to spend more time with friends and family and doing things away from the poker table.

I'm not planning on quitting weed entirely but I'm working on taking a long break. And then I don't want to be a daily weed smoker going forward. If I'm at a concert or something yeah of course I'm gonna smoke weed, but I'm just wasting money and my potential the way I'm smoking presently.

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Originally Posted by PixieRust
I don’t even care whether it was true or not, I just think Rich saying “why would I even lie???” earlier is insulting our intelligence, and lashing out at a completely well meaning poster giving advice is extremely distasteful.

I’ve got a lot of empathy and sympathy for people dealing with mental or mindset stuff, but when you start being nasty to other’s, you begin to need to be held accountable.
Well said, thank you. Again I'm sorry and I will try to do better moving forward.

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Originally Posted by ItsMyShow
Having just finished reading this entire thread, it is somewhat a painfully good read.

Not quite sure whether i mean that as a compliment yet but good luck none the less!
Will try to take some of the cringe out. I mean if I do something cringeworthy I'm going to include it to keep me accountable, I'm just going to try to be a less cringeworthy person.

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Originally Posted by z0mgtiltz
Legit, OP may be a bit delusional but this thread is a good read
Thanks! Yeah I've read some other threads and sometimes they come across as too verbose. I'm trying to keep this thread as succinct and entertaining as possible and using everyone's support and interest for motivation to succeed.

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Originally Posted by ALLNITSGOBROKE
You must be printing at 50nl, hence why you haven't moved up after calling 200nl "easy" although you never played it on bonition Whats worse your trolling game or your poker game LOL? Not nice to come in someone elses thread and kick em while theyre down.


Glad ya booked a win yesterday OP. Sounds like you can use a trip to a different casino once in awhile. Howbout the 1/3(300max) or 2/5(500max) at San Manuel once in awhile?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SB_LjL0lUJ4
Yeah I feel like I needed the win to keep my psyche intact.

Played once at the San Manuel. Went there with my friend and his girlfriend so she could play slots. It was pretty cool I won like 700 bucks playing 2/5 after a few hours. Problem is, it's like a 90 min from LA so it's just a bit too far out of the way.

The Bicycle, The Hustler, and The Hawaiian Gardens are all on my list of casinos I need to visit.

Last edited by Rich Checkmaker; 05-15-2018 at 03:11 PM.
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05-15-2018 , 04:21 PM
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A white lie is different than me materially misrepresenting my experience. I wouldn't do that.
Yeah I don't think anyone thinks it's the same thing, or that white lies are bad. It was just brought up because it kind of puts it into perspective, that you seem to have gotten really upset at someone who was genuinely trying to help, saying that you are, absolutely not a liar when it turns out you admit do lie sometimes, just not in that specific situation.

In your head you probably knew what you had meant, but you did add that extra bit of disclaimer/exception only afterwards. How are we supposed to know exactly what you mean if clearly sometimes you don't spell everything you mean out. How was he supposed to know that saying that he doesn't 100% believe you would piss you off? Guy is clearly being real with you; if someone who means you well don't believe you, then I think you should think about why that is... unless, you know, you think he's lying about meaning well.

And besides, lying about stacks and stuff really isn't that big a deal either, since it doesn't really hurt anyone. It seems like Gazzy finds it distasteful, and that's his prerogative, I think that's reasonable, but like, it's whatever man. You don't need to get caught up in it that much. I bet most readers of this thread don't even care.

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Well said, thank you. Again I'm sorry and I will try to do better moving forward.
Everyone gets in weird moods or does/says things they might rather have not, that in itself is no big deal. It's what we do about these habits that defines us. I think you're dealing with a lot of stuff, personal stuff, other people stuff, and poker related stuff, but everyone does to some degree, and with a good attitude a lot can be helped. Good luck.

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05-15-2018 , 04:29 PM
impressive post OP, and it takes a ton of strength to admit our mistakes/weaknesses, especially publicly ; kudos bro

Lol at posters coming to kick OP when he is down ; public forums brings out the worst in human nature
Spoiler:
grow the frack up
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05-15-2018 , 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
impressive post OP, and it takes a ton of strength to admit our mistakes/weaknesses, especially publicly ; kudos bro

Lol at posters coming to kick OP when he is down ; public forums brings out the worst in human nature
Spoiler:
grow the frack up
Yeah, more this:

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05-15-2018 , 04:47 PM
Dude, the guy is a 30+year old dope smoker living in his car kidding himself that he can survive playing poker full-time. Nobody is kicking him. People are trying to offer him sound advice though, which is mostly well intentioned I believe.

And yeah, the cheerleading is pathetic.
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05-15-2018 , 05:15 PM
I don't think anyone is cheerleading or being unrealistically optimistic in wishing me luck.

And there is a difference between saying that I won't succeed vs I don't think you'll succeed. Or you need to do this or you will fail vs this might help.

Also the socratic method(asking questions) is very helpful in getting someone to think about their problems or situation. agamblerthen's post was very helpful and I'm still mulling over some of the questions he asked and I will address them later after I've given it some more thought.

Like someone said you can lead a horse to water but you can't force him to drink. Well some of you guys are trying to force me to drink the water.
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05-15-2018 , 05:39 PM
Good Luck Rich. I wish you all the best on your journey.
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05-15-2018 , 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by BroadwaySushy
Dude, the guy is a 30+year old dope smoker living in his car kidding himself that he can survive playing poker full-time. Nobody is kicking him. People are trying to offer him sound advice though, which is mostly well intentioned I believe.

And yeah, the cheerleading is pathetic.
Meanie. Stop ruining OPs LARP:



Tbf though, idgaf about op living out of his car or enjoying cannabis. That's his business & it's not an indictment of his character. I don't really think that's what's holding him back. I'm just picking on him about his general approach to winning @ poker, which I (& many others) find lacking, & for my part at least, would like OP not to bottom out completely.

As always, GL Rich.
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05-15-2018 , 06:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Phil Me Up
Meanie. Stop ruining OPs LARP:



Tbf though, idgaf about op living out of his car or enjoying cannabis. That's his business & it's not an indictment of his character. I don't really think that's what's holding him back. I'm just picking on him about his general approach to winning @ poker, which I (& many others) find lacking, & for my part at least, would like OP not to bottom out completely.

As always, GL Rich.
LOL You're right.

I should shut-up. I'm going to spoil everyone's entertainment if I get him to face reality. I know what I'm talking about with the weed though, believe me. It really is LALA land. Been there done that.

However, good luck from me too Rich. Sincerely. W'ere all rooting for ya deep down.

Never know, you might surprise us all.
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