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04-11-2018 , 01:13 AM
Lol playing live 5/10 for a week and thinks he’s an end boss. Good luck buddy. You’re gonna need all you can get.

This is what makes poker so amazing and like nothing else in the competitive world. Variance. It can make some of the worst players delusional into thinking they are Kings and make some of the best players question their own game.

Op is a prime example of the delusional guy who has put little to no real work into his game and can’t even spell poker yet books a few wins has a few large pots go his way and thinks nothing will stop all the way to the top. Yolo.

Oh yeah and you’re a classless douche. Thought maybe you’d redeem yourself. Unsubbing here as well.
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04-11-2018 , 06:16 AM
results 4/10: -$250


Aces Cracked

Hero BB (covers) - AA
Villain UTG ($1270)= 97ss

Villain raises to 35 UTG. 2 players call everyone else folds. Before I look at my cards I ask how much Villain has and he lifts his arms so I can see his stack. I look down and see aces and raise to 160. Villain raises to 485. Other 2 fold and its back on me. I think about it for a minute before I go all-in. He calls off for the rest of it. Board runs out giving him two pair. Sigh.

But you know what they say, that's poker. I took it like a champ. Bad beats roll off me like water off a duck's back. I was cracking jokes as soon as the hand was over. Looking up at the clock and telling myself it's early I'm down ~$1400 but I can come back. And if I don't then there's always tomorrow. Battled back, played well and ended the day down only $250. Not too bad. Gonna keep going and going and going.

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Originally Posted by Dubnjoy000
That last post from OP is as condescending/arrogant as could come and represents all that is wrong with the unseasoned live pros... Also very lol coming from a low stakes live grinder

Unsubbed, not even interested in the ensuing train/car wreck anymore.
Yeah that post was arrogant but not condescending.

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Originally Posted by Pots-For-Sale
Lol playing live 5/10 for a week and thinks he’s an end boss. Good luck buddy. You’re gonna need all you can get.

This is what makes poker so amazing and like nothing else in the competitive world. Variance. It can make some of the worst players delusional into thinking they are Kings and make some of the best players question their own game.

Op is a prime example of the delusional guy who has put little to no real work into his game and can’t even spell poker yet books a few wins has a few large pots go his way and thinks nothing will stop all the way to the top. Yolo.

Oh yeah and you’re a classless douche. Thought maybe you’d redeem yourself. Unsubbing here as well.
the part about the best players questioning there own game due to variance is lol to me. who? because no one is losing to variance that hard. the best players have confidence levels you can't imagine.

lol at you dude. what do you mean ive put little to no real work into my game? i just finished a 9 hour session, how much poker did you play today chump??? are you gonna say im bad at poker because i dont spend time looking at PIO solver and crap like that?? i play and think about poker all day.....maybe you should rethink your approach and your work ethic.

You guys don't know me and I'm glad you never will. Unsub away suckers.
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04-11-2018 , 08:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
results 4/10: -$250


Aces Cracked

Hero BB (covers) - AA
Villain UTG ($1270)= 97ss

Villain raises to 35 UTG. 2 players call everyone else folds. Before I look at my cards I ask how much Villain has and he lifts his arms so I can see his stack. I look down and see aces and raise to 160. Villain raises to 485. Other 2 fold and its back on me. I think about it for a minute before I go all-in. He calls off for the rest of it. Board runs out giving him two pair. Sigh.

But you know what they say, that's poker. I took it like a champ. Bad beats roll off me like water off a duck's back. I was cracking jokes as soon as the hand was over. Looking up at the clock and telling myself it's early I'm down ~$1400 but I can come back. And if I don't then there's always tomorrow. Battled back, played well and ended the day down only $250. Not too bad. Gonna keep going and going and going.



Yeah that post was arrogant but not condescending.



the part about the best players questioning there own game due to variance is lol to me. who? because no one is losing to variance that hard. the best players have confidence levels you can't imagine.

lol at you dude. what do you mean ive put little to no real work into my game? i just finished a 9 hour session, how much poker did you play today chump??? are you gonna say im bad at poker because i dont spend time looking at PIO solver and crap like that?? i play and think about poker all day.....maybe you should rethink your approach and your work ethic.

You guys don't know me and I'm glad you never will. Unsub away suckers.
Enjoy reading your thread bro. that's what is all about. enjoying yourself.

I gotta start enjoying looking into pio solver. is it something you could enjoy doing? Or do you enjoy putting in the time to play since playing actual poker is probably the best way to learn.
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04-11-2018 , 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
lol at you dude. what do you mean ive put little to no real work into my game? i just finished a 9 hour session, how much poker did you play today chump??? are you gonna say im bad at poker because i dont spend time looking at PIO solver and crap like that?? i play and think about poker all day.....maybe you should rethink your approach and your work ethic.
Just gunna throw this out there - in the 9 hours you played live poker you saw ~200 hands. You asked Pots-For-Sale how many hands he played in that time... I don't for sure, but I do know he plays online 1knl+ and easily sees 200 hands in 20 minutes. So if your plan is to play more poker than everyone to become the best, you might want to rethink playing live because you're falling further and further behind every day
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04-11-2018 , 02:23 PM
The reason poker pros play 2/5 instead of 5/10 for a living is because the difference in play is tremendous. 2/5 is a much easier game to beat, so depending on player pool you could make more at 2/5 then 5/10. So to just say they must all play 2/5 because of lack of funds or because of fear shows your obvious ignorance and arrogance.
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04-11-2018 , 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mttplayer
Enjoy reading your thread bro. that's what is all about. enjoying yourself.

I gotta start enjoying looking into pio solver. is it something you could enjoy doing? Or do you enjoy putting in the time to play since playing actual poker is probably the best way to learn.
Thanks buddy. Yeah I enjoy playing poker a lot more than studying it. I like talking about poker with good players and getting their perspective on how to play a hand. Generally I disagree with what they have to say, but sometimes I gain some valuable insight.

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Originally Posted by tgiggity
Just gunna throw this out there - in the 9 hours you played live poker you saw ~200 hands. You asked Pots-For-Sale how many hands he played in that time... I don't for sure, but I do know he plays online 1knl+ and easily sees 200 hands in 20 minutes. So if your plan is to play more poker than everyone to become the best, you might want to rethink playing live because you're falling further and further behind every day
I asked how much poker he played not how many hands he saw. Quality over quantity. Internet kids think just cause they played more hands of poker than Doyle Brunson that they are better than him. It doesn't work like that.

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Originally Posted by stlcardinals
The reason poker pros play 2/5 instead of 5/10 for a living is because the difference in play is tremendous. 2/5 is a much easier game to beat, so depending on player pool you could make more at 2/5 then 5/10. So to just say they must all play 2/5 because of lack of funds or because of fear shows your obvious ignorance and arrogance.
Some players will jump in the 5/5 games and 5/10 games. Those players maybe looking for the most profitable games. Some regs only play 5/5. Not because its more profitable, but because they are afraid. Afraid they can't hack it, afraid of the stakes, afraid of everything.

So for you to just say I'm ignorant of the way things work.....dude.... I spend all day at the casino.... Maybe I can spot these fearful pros. The 5/10 game is deeper and I can pretty much guarantee more profitable for a good player.
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04-12-2018 , 06:18 AM
Thanks everyone for pointing out how distasteful my arrogance has been, I will try to be more humble moving forward.

results 4/11: +$1,325

I just wanna say that I don't look down on $40 players or $300 reg/pros or whatever level you play. I get that some people play poker for fun and that most people are nowhere near my level. And everyone has to start somewhere. I get that some of the 300 players that are winning there maybe might not win more at 5/10 just because they aren't good enough.

I also want to say to my haters/detractors/naysayers in this thread, I'm better at poker than you realize. I am doing things at the table that maybe no one else is. I'm paying attention to every hand every action looking for a weakness. I'm looking at people for tells all the time. I'm thinking all the time at the table. People sit me out, not the other way around. Games breakup when I still want to play. If I'm not the best player at the table then I'm the second best.

I'm gonna try to play on Live at the Bike some time in the near future so you guys can see how truly god awful I am at the poker.


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Originally Posted by Pots-For-Sale
Lol playing live 5/10 for a week and thinks he’s an end boss.
For the record I said that in 6months the other players at the casino would consider me an endboss. Not that I consider myself one now. Though I'm pretty damn good.
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04-12-2018 , 06:52 AM
dude, I don't want to come hating too hard, I wish you the best and want to see you keep climbing. But, if you are living out of your car and claiming to be "pretty damn good" at poker, I am just not so sure that you can be "pretty damn good."

I guess before I go too deep, I should stop and think a little deeper about the fact that being "pretty damn good" does not immediately equate to wealth or at least financial stability like I have experienced. There are always variables(where you live, off the table habits, access to games, hours played, etc) to perhaps why a "pretty damn good" poker player is living in a car but I find a huge contradiction in telling the world that you are a "pretty damn good" player and living in a car because, in my experience, possessing that skill (I'm "good, good is enough") has attributed to a pretty nice house being paid in full(paid it off years ago), two, now below-average cars being paid in full, a retirement fund funded pretty nicely for a 31-year-old, liquid cash(still HODLing some btc), I could go on.

I guess, just because I probably have more money than Chino Rheem(who knows, maybe he has mills) does not necessarily make me a better player(dude wins some titles, I have never played a WSOP or WPT ), I could say the same about you and I. But, at the same time, if you do possess the "pretty damn good" poker skill, and if you are going to claim that, I think you should have some proof, more or less(because it is a skillset that should lead to an accumulation of wealth). Maybe in 6 months, when you are the end boss, there will be more proof. I hope to see it and wish you the best on your journey Rich Checkmaker, keep the positive attitude and continue forward.

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04-12-2018 , 12:44 PM
^Very fun thread. I agree w/a lot of others about the possibility of you being a degen on a heater. Moving up to 5/10 bc you are bored--the times I've had this mindset and moved up I was really struggling and just needed to work hard on my game.

I wish you the best tho however it works out. Prove us wrong, maybe you are really good. Or if you find your game needs some work I hope you do said work. Either way, pretty interesting thread so far and I hope it continues for a long time. GL at the tables.
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04-12-2018 , 01:08 PM
I'm a SoCal resident who plays in the games you're moving up into. You are not in the top of the 5/10 field. Yes there are plenty of droolers and punters, and yes I believe you can make it.

But man if you don't start becoming more humble and admitting to yourself that some of the things you are doing are just not good you will end up struggling once you hit a true downswing.

Stay confident, you need to...but there's a very clear distinction between confidence and arrogance.

Good luck out there man...really do wish you the best.
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04-12-2018 , 01:12 PM
Hey rich, do you play at commerce or bike? I'm going to be in LA next week and looking to play some 5/10 with you
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04-12-2018 , 01:51 PM
You see, it's guys like this that believe poker is booming and HUUUUUUGE winrates can still be made playing 5/T. Or they're directly invested in the dream selling themselves, staking, coaching, stables, poker training sites etc etc.

I hope you run hot that way you can reinvest in yourself and find a decent career.
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04-12-2018 , 03:12 PM
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Originally Posted by p2 dog, p2
dude, I don't want to come hating too hard, I wish you the best and want to see you keep climbing. But, if you are living out of your car and claiming to be "pretty damn good" at poker, I am just not so sure that you can be "pretty damn good."

I guess before I go too deep, I should stop and think a little deeper about the fact that being "pretty damn good" does not immediately equate to wealth or at least financial stability like I have experienced. There are always variables(where you live, off the table habits, access to games, hours played, etc) to perhaps why a "pretty damn good" poker player is living in a car but I find a huge contradiction in telling the world that you are a "pretty damn good" player and living in a car because, in my experience, possessing that skill (I'm "good, good is enough") has attributed to a pretty nice house being paid in full(paid it off years ago), two, now below-average cars being paid in full, a retirement fund funded pretty nicely for a 31-year-old, liquid cash(still HODLing some btc), I could go on.

I guess, just because I probably have more money than Chino Rheem(who knows, maybe he has mills) does not necessarily make me a better player(dude wins some titles, I have never played a WSOP or WPT ), I could say the same about you and I. But, at the same time, if you do possess the "pretty damn good" poker skill, and if you are going to claim that, I think you should have some proof, more or less(because it is a skillset that should lead to an accumulation of wealth). Maybe in 6 months, when you are the end boss, there will be more proof. I hope to see it and wish you the best on your journey Rich Checkmaker, keep the positive attitude and continue forward.
Thanks buddy I appreciate the sentiment and I agree. I rank poker player's mostly in terms of money won(at least for cash game players). But of course poker skill is entirely different than money won. There are certainly some low level grinders on 200zoom and levels like that that could crush higher stakes but just don't move up for some reason. At least I think they are there.

So yeah I don't have much to show for the 15 years I've been playing poker. I haven't really put the effort needed to be a successful poker player. I'm in the process of changing that.

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Originally Posted by EdNealy
^Very fun thread. I agree w/a lot of others about the possibility of you being a degen on a heater. Moving up to 5/10 bc you are bored--the times I've had this mindset and moved up I was really struggling and just needed to work hard on my game.

I wish you the best tho however it works out. Prove us wrong, maybe you are really good. Or if you find your game needs some work I hope you do said work. Either way, pretty interesting thread so far and I hope it continues for a long time. GL at the tables.
Thanks! Let's keep it fun!

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Originally Posted by bigdaddycope
I'm a SoCal resident who plays in the games you're moving up into. You are not in the top of the 5/10 field. Yes there are plenty of droolers and punters, and yes I believe you can make it.

But man if you don't start becoming more humble and admitting to yourself that some of the things you are doing are just not good you will end up struggling once you hit a true downswing.

Stay confident, you need to...but there's a very clear distinction between confidence and arrogance.

Good luck out there man...really do wish you the best.
Thank you sir! I was playing 5/10 late the other night 4 handed. Three of us were clearly waiting for the 4th guy to bust and when he did we kept playing for a few hands until the other players see that the dude has walked past the ATMs and out the casino, then they stopped playing. I didn't quit them. The 'pros' quit me. I got a willingness to do battle against everybody, if they are better than I will learn until I can beat them. Reverse game selection like jungleman.

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Originally Posted by tgiggity
Hey rich, do you play at commerce or bike? I'm going to be in LA next week and looking to play some 5/10 with you
Awesome! I would love to play with someone who can witness one of my epic punts and tell everyone I truly am a fish on a heater! I play at the Commerce almost exclusively but I'm gonna start going to the bike to try to get on LATB.

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Originally Posted by upswinging
You see, it's guys like this that believe poker is booming and HUUUUUUGE winrates can still be made playing 5/T. Or they're directly invested in the dream selling themselves, staking, coaching, stables, poker training sites etc etc.

I hope you run hot that way you can reinvest in yourself and find a decent career.
Lol. You're right, I've thought about that. I'm just really good at poker that's why, to me, it appears that poker is still massively profitable.

I had to go to high school early to take math classes because they kept testing me up. I was taking calculus as a sophomore in high school. I got 5's on pretty much every AP I took and 1440 SAT without studying. When I watch Jeopardy! I am getting questions correct enough that anyone else in the room will suggest I should be on the show. Not until I've read a dictionary and encyclopedia though. I have tremendous recall. I've been told several times in my life by people being sincere that I am a genius. And as smart as I am, I'm a better poker player. I've been playing poker nearly every day since I saw the WPT back in 2003. Honing my skills and refining my edges.

I love playing poker.
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04-12-2018 , 04:03 PM
Pics of car
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04-12-2018 , 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dairuss86
Pics of car
Oh man. If you guys could only see my car. It is not a good car to be sleeping in let me tell you that. I will post pics once I am no longer sleeping in it for sure, but not sure I want to post pics of it now, you know, cuz I sleep in it...

I was driving my mom's old Daewoo Lanos for a while, that was a better car than mine. Gave it to my cousin after teaching her how to drive and taking her to get her license a month ago and she rear ended someone 2 weeks ago. No one was hurt but the car is totaled. Whatever.

My mom btw leased a new Chevy Impala last year. I'm not sure how much debt she has but she has had credit card debt ever since she was a young adult and has been paying the minimum balance pretty much her whole life. And again my dad died when I was 13 from pancreatitis due to alcoholism. And his work had just changed life insurance policies when he died so he wasn't covered. Not that any amount of money can make up for a father. Insurance is a scam and a suckers bet.
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04-12-2018 , 04:45 PM
So this happened

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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
Thanks everyone for pointing out how distasteful my arrogance has been, I will try to be more humble moving forward.
then right after this happened

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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
I had to go to high school early to take math classes because they kept testing me up.
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
I was taking calculus as a sophomore in high school.
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
I got 5's on pretty much every AP I took and 1440 SAT without studying.
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
When I watch Jeopardy! I am getting questions correct enough that anyone else in the room will suggest I should be on the show.
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
I have tremendous recall.
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
I've been told several times in my life by people being sincere that I am a genius. And as smart as I am, I'm a better poker player.
wut. do you have a relative in the wh?

also, idk if sat's were different when you took them, but 1440 is kinda average
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04-12-2018 , 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by tgiggity
So this happened

then right after this happened

wut. do you have a relative in the wh?

also, idk if sat's were different when you took them, but 1440 is kinda average
SAT was out of 1600 back in my day and 1440 wasn't bad especially considering I literally did zero studying took the test once and was disappointed I didnt break 1500 but was like whatever good enough. 750 maath 690 verbal. Got 2 wrong on the math part.

And I'm not trying to be arrogant stating how intelligent I am, I just want to put perspective on my poker playing abilities so that those reading the thread will understand there's a chance that I am as good as I think I am and that amazing things will happen ITT to come. I know no one wants to hear me talk about how smart I am. I'm sorry.
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04-12-2018 , 05:27 PM
There are different types of intelligence. Bragging about intellectual intelligence is a shallow form of compensating for other aspects of life in which you feel lack. It demonstrates lack of intelligence socially and emotionally. It reveals narcissism, lack of self-awareness, and a deep sense of unworthiness you have this dying need to prove otherwise. But being intellectual or good at poker will never fill that deep hole inside you. In fact, the better you get and the more money you win, the deeper that existential angst gets. You'll still feel and know deep down that you're a loser.

I've read maybe 25-30% of the posts on here. OP, you might be making a bit money playing poker, but some of the things you've written reveal your lack of understanding the deeper aspects of the game and of life in general.

I feel for you. I have some of the same traits in my self -- the perfectionism, low self-esteem, arrogance, pride, etc. The need to prove myself was once extremely deep. I wanted to be recognized for my intellectual prowess and my skills at poker. I still get these feelings sometimes. But now, I just don't see the need to boost up my self-worth by beating people in poker. If being better at poker than your opponents is what your worth as a man relies on, you live a sad life. You're missing the big picture. Some of the "fish" at your table are actually sharks in real life. They're just there to have fun and gamble. The fact that they don't need to take poker seriously reveals their station in life.

Anyway, you make it seem like 5/T players are somehow superior human beings than people who play smaller stakes. Some players' decision not to move up to 5/T might not be out of fear. It might stem from another type of intelligence. The 3/5 games are still laughably soft. I'd much rather play in a soft 3/5 game than a much tougher 5/T with 6 or 7 grinders. Less stress, less variance, less being around predators. More guaranteed money, not too many 4 or 5 figure losing days, plenty of 4 figure winning days. Sounds intelligent to me: minimize risk, maximize long-term profitability, avoid negative unhealthy emotions if possible.

You say you spend all day at the casino, and you sound proud of it, like it somehow increases your standing among humans. Just know that the more time you spend in a casino, the bigger fish you are. You might think you are a shark at the table, but you are a huge fish of life. You just don't realize it. The casino owners love having people like you around. You're their customer, you're the ones who keep the games going for them so they can keep collecting and counting cash without doing anything.

The true pros know that they want to limit time in casinos. They're past the stage of having fun and seeing the casino as an exciting place to go. It's truly a business for them.

If you didn't play poker, would you know who you are as a man? Would you have a purpose or direction or mission in life? Would you feel good about yourself? These are the important questions. Winning at poker means nothing in the grand scheme of things. It doesn't lead to any type of real happiness.
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04-12-2018 , 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by spirit123
You'll still feel and know deep down that you're a loser.
Incorrect.

Your post is neither trying to help me nor enlighten me, but rather tell me how enlightened you are by comparison. You preach to me about my arrogance while at the same time being uncouth and condescending. You are not as enlightened as you claim to be. You lack tact and awareness.

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Matthew7:5: You hypocrite! First take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye.
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04-12-2018 , 05:56 PM
Lol, Rich.

I hope this journey has the middle and ending that you desire, I just can't see how that's going to be a possible reality given your current mindset. I imagine it's not your intention but what other posters are saying about how you're coming across is true. I no doubt believe that you believe what you're saying is true, however it certainly wouldn't help to take a step back and examine yourself. Humility and a humble spirit will take you a long way in this world, in addition to making others want to be around you. I've been down a similar road as you in the past and it gets lonely, quickly. Wishing you the best man, both on the tables and off.

As for Spirits post; I think he makes a lot of valid points, and I don't think he was referring to you specifically w/ the comment "You'll still feel and know deep down that you're a loser," rather individuals who possess these characteristics as a whole. If I were you I would try my best to read through it a few more times in a non defensive manner.

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04-12-2018 , 06:07 PM
I appreciate the insight. You guys are reading too much into a few posts ITT. You don't know me. I'm not as delusional and unaware as you guys all think. Thanks.

I sleep in my car, how much more humility do I need?
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04-12-2018 , 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Rich Checkmaker
I appreciate the insight. You guys are reading too much into a few posts ITT. You don't know me. I'm not as delusional and unaware as you guys all think. Thanks.

I sleep in my car, how much more humility do I need?
Since we don't know you in person our opinions can only be formulated by your posts. I don't think you're a bad guy, I just think you should pay a bit more attention at how you come across. Also, humility is a state of mind. Sleeping in your car is something that should give you humility, but doesn't in itself make you humble.
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04-12-2018 , 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by spirit123
There are different types of intelligence. Bragging about intellectual intelligence is a shallow form of compensating for other aspects of life in which you feel lack. It demonstrates lack of intelligence socially and emotionally. It reveals narcissism, lack of self-awareness, and a deep sense of unworthiness you have this dying need to prove otherwise. But being intellectual or good at poker will never fill that deep hole inside you. In fact, the better you get and the more money you win, the deeper that existential angst gets. You'll still feel and know deep down that you're a loser.

I've read maybe 25-30% of the posts on here. OP, you might be making a bit money playing poker, but some of the things you've written reveal your lack of understanding the deeper aspects of the game and of life in general.

I feel for you. I have some of the same traits in my self -- the perfectionism, low self-esteem, arrogance, pride, etc. The need to prove myself was once extremely deep. I wanted to be recognized for my intellectual prowess and my skills at poker. I still get these feelings sometimes. But now, I just don't see the need to boost up my self-worth by beating people in poker. If being better at poker than your opponents is what your worth as a man relies on, you live a sad life. You're missing the big picture. Some of the "fish" at your table are actually sharks in real life. They're just there to have fun and gamble. The fact that they don't need to take poker seriously reveals their station in life.

Anyway, you make it seem like 5/T players are somehow superior human beings than people who play smaller stakes. Some players' decision not to move up to 5/T might not be out of fear. It might stem from another type of intelligence. The 3/5 games are still laughably soft. I'd much rather play in a soft 3/5 game than a much tougher 5/T with 6 or 7 grinders. Less stress, less variance, less being around predators. More guaranteed money, not too many 4 or 5 figure losing days, plenty of 4 figure winning days. Sounds intelligent to me: minimize risk, maximize long-term profitability, avoid negative unhealthy emotions if possible.

You say you spend all day at the casino, and you sound proud of it, like it somehow increases your standing among humans. Just know that the more time you spend in a casino, the bigger fish you are. You might think you are a shark at the table, but you are a huge fish of life. You just don't realize it. The casino owners love having people like you around. You're their customer, you're the ones who keep the games going for them so they can keep collecting and counting cash without doing anything.

The true pros know that they want to limit time in casinos. They're past the stage of having fun and seeing the casino as an exciting place to go. It's truly a business for them.

If you didn't play poker, would you know who you are as a man? Would you have a purpose or direction or mission in life? Would you feel good about yourself? These are the important questions. Winning at poker means nothing in the grand scheme of things. It doesn't lead to any type of real happiness.
Wow, that's one of the better posts I came across on 2 + 2 Thx for taking the time to try to instil some wisdom upon OP ; as for myself, I have given up on his pathological nature... He has been playing poker for 15 years and still does not "get it", speak of deep rooted insecurities
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04-13-2018 , 04:30 PM
Playing poker against players who are scared is what you want to do. So if 5/5 if filled with scared opponents then that is where you want to play. Not 5/10 vs fearless, well bankrolled, solid competition. Ignorance.
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04-13-2018 , 05:09 PM
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There are different types of intelligence. Bragging about intellectual intelligence is a shallow form of compensating for other aspects of life in which you feel lack. It demonstrates lack of intelligence socially and emotionally. It reveals narcissism, lack of self-awareness, and a deep sense of unworthiness you have this dying need to prove otherwise. But being intellectual or good at poker will never fill that deep hole inside you. In fact, the better you get and the more money you win, the deeper that existential angst gets. You'll still feel and know deep down that you're a loser.
You are misreading my post. I'mm not bragging about my intelligence, I only brought it up because there are people who are doubting my ability to play poker and im simply trying to point out that i have the intellectual capacity and experience to recognize that im an excellent poker player. I really dont care how stupid people think I am, ive never told anyone irl im smart since i was 10 years old. I understand how cringeworthy it is. Dont read into my post as me "bragging" though, Im not. I did no hard work to earn my intelligence.
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I've read maybe 25-30% of the posts on here. OP, you might be making a bit money playing poker, but some of the things you've written reveal your lack of understanding the deeper aspects of the game and of life in general.
Provide examples then. Having a thought thats arrogant and observing to be such does not make me an arrogant person. Im extremely self aware and Im the observer of my own thoughts.

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I feel for you. I have some of the same traits in my self -- the perfectionism, low self-esteem, arrogance, pride, etc. The need to prove myself was once extremely deep. I wanted to be recognized for my intellectual prowess and my skills at poker. I still get these feelings sometimes. But now, I just don't see the need to boost up my self-worth by beating people in poker.
I dont feel the need to be perfect and I dont have low self esteem. Where are you getting that from?
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If being better at poker than your opponents is what your worth as a man relies on, you live a sad life. You're missing the big picture. Some of the "fish" at your table are actually sharks in real life. They're just there to have fun and gamble. The fact that they don't need to take poker seriously reveals their station in life.
You are very insulting to insinuate that my worth as a man is derived from beating people in a card game. Again you think you know me and you are being completely self righteous and arrogant in preaching down to me. I never said nor intimated that my self worth derives from being good at poker. You are a simpering arrogant fool. Your advice is wrapped in insults. Obviously I feel good that I am proficient at something that makes me money and that I feel I am very skilled at. But to suggest I derive my entire self worth from my poker skill is just low and insulting. This is a poker forum, most of my posts are focused on poker....

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Anyway, you make it seem like 5/T players are somehow superior human beings than people who play smaller stakes. Some players' decision not to move up to 5/T might not be out of fear. It might stem from another type of intelligence. The 3/5 games are still laughably soft. I'd much rather play in a soft 3/5 game than a much tougher 5/T with 6 or 7 grinders. Less stress, less variance, less being around predators. More guaranteed money, not too many 4 or 5 figure losing days, plenty of 4 figure winning days. Sounds intelligent to me: minimize risk, maximize long-term profitability, avoid negative unhealthy emotions if possible.
I'm not talking about them as people. I'm talking about them as poker players. Again you are reading your own arrogance and past problems into my post. I'm already enlightened. I'm sure they are average good people that just enjoy playing poker. I get that. I love playing poker, even if I wasnt good at it I would still play. I would want to play high stakes too because I'm a gambler. I'm a degen I love to play. So I look down at players playing penny stakes because that wouldn't even get my blood flowing. Not because they are bad people. I hear stories of Bill Gates playing $1-$2 and I think "loser" about him in my head. Obviously I'm not stupid enough to think I'm better than BG or that he is actually a loser in my head. But I think he's a loser for playing $1-2 although for him its a little different and I can understand him wanting to play small since he couldn't play high enough to really matter anyway and it would look bad and he'd rather play with his customers. I'd still think he was a loser. I hope that can put some perspective on my previous statements.

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You say you spend all day at the casino, and you sound proud of it, like it somehow increases your standing among humans. Just know that the more time you spend in a casino, the bigger fish you are. You might think you are a shark at the table, but you are a huge fish of life. You just don't realize it. The casino owners love having people like you around. You're their customer, you're the ones who keep the games going for them so they can keep collecting and counting cash without doing anything.
How do I sound proud of it? Rather I sound like someone who thinks he knows what he's talking about because of experience. And maybe I'm right. Again I don't need you to preach to me, you are still reading your own personal flaws into my posts that just arent there. I'm not proud of spending all day at the casino and I've never intimated as much. I'm proud of the fact that I'm proficient and skilled at something that takes effort, intelligence, discipline, and it's something not many people can do profitably. I don't think I'm a better person because of it.

You call me a huge life fish. Again talking down to me and insulting me, and again based on assumptions you've read into my post combined with your own flaws projected.
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The true pros know that they want to limit time in casinos. They're past the stage of having fun and seeing the casino as an exciting place to go. It's truly a business for them.
I was watching the Joe Ingram podcast with Garrett Adelstein and he said he loves playing poker. It's more than just a business for the true pros, it's a passion. So you truly don't know what you are talking about.
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If you didn't play poker, would you know who you are as a man? Would you have a purpose or direction or mission in life? Would you feel good about yourself? These are the important questions. Winning at poker means nothing in the grand scheme of things. It doesn't lead to any type of real happiness.
Yes, yes, and yes. Again you assumed the answers were no and proceeded to condescend to me and try to teach me things you don't know anything about. Projecting your own flaws onto my posts when they weren't there.

Thanks for trying, but next time you want to help someone try not being so condescending and projecting your own flaws onto what you are reading.


results 4/12: -$420

Is it coincidence that I left the casino to smoke weed and watch survivor with my friend while being down exactly 420 bucks? Yes.
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