Again a pretty sick session yesterday

42 minutes 1/2, -57€
1:32h 1/3, -246€

The 1/2 table was not good and i was hoping to play 1/3 soon. The second hand i raised at the 1/2 table following happened...

I raise in mp 8€ with JT, my asian poker "friend" calls.
Flop (19€) 984
Usually i cbet here because of the huge equity and im happy to take down the pot with J high and the straight flush (high hand bonus) "never" comes but this time i decided to check, villain checks back.
Turn Q
check check
River 6
i bet 10€, V snap folds.
I show my hand and win 500€ because of the high hand promotion
Villain said he would have folded to a bet otf because he had nothing (i think it was KTo) so very happy that i checked. Unfortunately i didnt think about taking a photo
Luckily i was able to reconstruct the scene



Shortly after the hand they opened a 1/3 table.
First or second hand that i played at the 1/3 table there is a straddle, 1 limper utg+1, i call in sb with 66, bb calls, straddler raises to 26€, utg+1 calls, i call and bb calls.
Flop (104€) 996
all check
Turn (104€) 9966 (i just thought "wtf is going on today" )
i check, bb bets 50€, straddler folds, utg+1 calls, i call
River (254€) 99668
i check, bb checks, utg+1 bets 50€, i put my ~500€ stack in, bb folds, utg+1 snap calls. I show very proud my quads, utg+1 shows even prouder his 99 haha
Jackpot and we both get 500€ each. So i won around 200€ in the hand.

TRUE STORY



On the river i thought it would be really sick but normal, because of the last 4 or 5 weeks, if i would lose to a straight flush LOL. The last 4 or 5 weeks i floped or turned ~6 times quads and got coolered pretty hard the same amount of times. Before starting this blog i lost a pot (3 way allin otr) with top FH vs a straight flush on 887QT

Pretty funny that you dont get quads or a straight flush over a long period of time and then suddenly you get it a few times in a short period of time.
I think the last time i had a straight flush was 1,5 years ago.

The 1/3 table was good and 9 handed in the first 30 minutes. For the last hour we were 5 and 4 handed until the table broke. There was also one 1/2 table that didnt look very good and i didnt want to wait for a free seat so drove home.

Today i have to ask how exactly the quads over quads jackpot works because a friend told me that a few weeks ago two players got 1,5k each. Maybe it gets bigger over time.

Will start my session in about 2 hours.

GL everybody

Looks familiar LOL



~900€ POT

As a fellow Ösi I am wondering about your plan where your game is heading.

Like you said the highest NLHE runs in Vienna is 1/3, on the other hand PLO 2/2 runs round the clock, 5/5 nearly at every time and with T/T up to 20/40 at peak hours.
Just right now at a midweek afternoon there are 4 tables running at Simmering, 1x 1/1 NLHE, 2x 2/2 PLO and 1x 5/5 PLO.

Do you have any plans on moving over to PLO or do you want to grind it out til you can sit with the Roflers at 6+ Holdem 20/40.

For me it just seems you are limiting your potential earnings by sticking to NLHE when it's a dead game above 1/3 in Austria when you could use that time and energy to get into/better at a game that has a lot of upward potential.

what is the situation on plo 5/5 and higher at simmering? is there any chip dumping, checking back w nuts w their friends, throwing chips back across the table after someone wins a pot and that kind of stuff which i saw many times on 2/2?

dont know about NLH tables, but at plo 2/2 atmosphere is not that great when you see stuff like that

Griaß di

Im actually not exactly sure. Short term goal is to travel to las vegas for wsop 2019 and grind nlh until then to hopefully have a bigger br and more possibilities.

You are absolutely right with plo. I think in the long term there is a lot more money to be made in plo than in holdem...at least in vienna. Yesterday at 6pm there was 1 2/2, 2 10/10 and i think 1 5/5 plo. And at around 8 or 9 pm 1 20/40 plo. So it really has a lot more potential.

My plan is to play more live plo and study theory because im very inexperienced compared to nlh. I also want to start playing plo online and online mtts again.
The only thing i dont like about plo is the variance of the game which results in bigger swings.
I think 6+holdem also has a lot of potential but at the moment there is not much content. So its learning by doing
And im not as good as i want to be in nlh so i have to work on my holdem game as well.
Sometimes i feel kinda overwhelmed because i want to do a lot in poker and dont know where to start.

How often do you play poker?

Hmm i actually dont know about that. I didnt witness anything like that but people get really mad at nlh tables so i imagine it could be a lot worse at the plo tables.

At first, I just reread my post and now it seems a little agressive to me, wasn't my intention. Quite the opposite, it's very interesting to see another perspective from someone that plays in the same rooms (or at least country lol).

I just saw your winrate which is quite good for the games you play and thought too bad the bigger NLHE games from like 5 years ago (2/4 in Simmering and 5/5 in Montesino) aren't running anymore except at the big tourney weeks.

While I think in the long run it would be good to learn PLO, a good NLHE understanding is a great base to start off especially if you want to play tourneys which are still primarely holdem.

The swings can be quiet big but a part of it is, because some people push really marginal spots too much even if they have a big edge. But the bankroll needs to be at least double and it's a little tougher on the mind.

I studied in Vienna where I played a lot but moved back afterwards and now play once or twice a week in Ibk or Kuf. Mostly it's 1/2 Holdem and 2/2 plo but in Kuf is a 5/5/T plo from Tue to Thu which is quiet nice but sucks if you have to work the next day.
My gf is from Vienna so we obviously are there from time to time where I visit the old felt in Simmering. I wish every CCC would have this much action lol.

Sorry for the late response!

Dont worry man, i didnt see it as aggressive at all...just good thoughts

Wow cool, didnt even know there were 2/4 games running in simmering

Ya thats why i still want to work on my nlh game. I see that im getting better, but i still have so much to learn. Not even close to where i wanna be.

Did you start with nlh and later plo? Do you prefer plo over nlh?

This week there were no interesting hands except the 2 coolers. Only played 20,5h and action was pretty bad. From monday to thursday i only had losing sessions. Only small losses. Monday i only was up because of the high hand bonus and the quads over quads jackpot. From tuesday to thursday there are no interesting hands to report, didnt win or lose a big pot. Friday was the only winning day because of a 1/3 table.

After thinking about and talking to friends i came to the conclusion to not post too many hands and details about my sessions because a few people have recogized me already (a lot quicker then i thought it would happen) and i think this has unfortunately more negative than positive effects. I will still post the most interesting hands even tho people remeber those hands the most. I will post updates about sessions and bankroll at least once a week.

Tuesday 4:45h -203€
Wednesday 2,5h -129€
Thursday 6,5h -122€
Friday 4,5h +656€ ->3:20h 1/3 +802€, 1:10h 1/2 -146€

1. 8 handed. Tight weak reg (~400€) raises in mp to 12, guy next to him calls (500€, was playing nl400 with a shortstack on pokerstars with his tablet), Hero (800€) squeezes in co to 48€ with Q9, weak reg folds, the other guy calls.
Flop (104€) A54
Hero cbets 45€, Villain calls
Turn (194€) A546
H checks, V checks
River (194€) A546A
V leads 95€, hero puts villain allin for around 400€, V tank-folds

He was really confused and for a long time in the tank. When he folded he said he had a straight but not sure about that.
Otr i also tanked for a long time because i was not sure if a shove is too thin. But thought he would valuebet bigger with a FH and the sizing looked like a valuebet from Ax. And otr there are only 9 combos that beat me...3 5s, 3 4s, 1 A5s, 2 A4s. So there are more worse hands than better hands that can call.

2. Hero raises utg 11€ wit AA, utg+2 calls (~250€, ABC), aggro spewy asian guy calls otb (330€, always bets aggressively ip), bb calls (tablet guy)
Flop (45€) 543
bb checks, hero checks (range check, i know its risky multiway but thats how i get the most out of the asian guy), utg+2 checks, asian guy bets 45€, only hero calls
Turn (135€) 543K
hero checks, asian guy bets 180€ lol, hero tank-calls
River (495€) 543K7
hero checks, asian spewtard goes allin for 100€, hero snap ofc, Villain mucks

3. 6 handed. Straddle, hero raise otb to 20€ with T8, only guy in straddle calls
Flop (44€) 988
Villain leads 40€, hero calls
Turn (124€) 9889
Villain bets 100€ with 20€ behind, hero calls
River (324€) 98895x
Villain goes allin for 20€, hero calls, villain show JJ

Villain in this hand was the last spot at the table so when he was broke the table wasnt good anymore and broke.
I drove with a friend to another pokerroom where i playe 1h 1/2 (-146€). Had to finish the session because of headache but the table wasnt good anyways.

The session on friday was my last session for january. Since april i never had more than 2 days off. Most of the time i only had 1 day off and sometimes i even played on sundays and played like 13 days in a row. So im pretty happy about not playing poker for 6 days even tho i think i will get bored

January was my best CG month ever but would have liked to play 11h more to reach 120h.

Only CG: 109h +5317€
With mtt: 114h +5067€

Yeah it was running pretty consistent, but not exactly when it stopped. I was in Vienna 2010-2015 and it stopped somewhere in the middle of that timeframe, pretty much at the same time that plo came up.

I'm a dinosaur in regards to poker so I started like everybody else with holdem in like 2006 or 07 (damn that makes me feel old) and played it exclusively until about 2014 and have played mainly plo since 15 or 16.

I like both variants for different reasons and would prefer if I could play more holdem but if the stakes are the same, it's more profitable and most times more fun at the omaha tables although rake is ridiculous.

If I could achieve a near 50€/h winrate at 1/2 or 1/3 I would put in a lot more hours at holdem tables.

What app do you use to track your results? Looks nice.

And congrats on a good start to the year, keep crushing.

Damn they should offer it again. Would be really cool.

How old (or young ) are you?
Was the transition learning by doing or did you study theory too? Did and do you also play online?

I didnt play much live plo because i found it online to be more fun and the few times i played live i was extremely card dead. But i mean i only have a small sample. What i dont like so much is that i think on a 9 handed plo table you have to be really nitty compared to nlh to really have an edge because equities are so close and everybody is so damn loose. Is that true?
Even tho i didnt have much fun i will force myself to play more live plo. I wanna be able to hop into any plo game and have an edge when nlh tables are bad.

haha luckily i ran pretty good in the right spots.
Like in plo i also want to be able to jump into any nlh game and have an edge or at least be able to compete with good players. Im just not that experienced compared to most players given that im not playing for a long time like many others.

The name is "poker manager pro". Costs 5$ or 6$ and im pretty happy with it. But maybe there are better poker trackers out there.

Thank you

AHOI

February was until saturday unspectacular. Was mostly super card dead and folded a lot. When i had strong hands the board runouts were so ****ty that i lost the hand. Nothing i could do about it. Just ran bad. But cant complain after the really good january

February:

01.02. 7h -90
04.02. 4:50h +34
05.02. 1h 1/2 +58, 4:40h 2/2 PLO -312, 2h 1/2 +337
06.02. 5h 1/2 -108
07.02 2:45h 1/2 +74, 1:40h 1/2 nm -287
08.02. 45 min 1/3 +112, 3:10h 1/2 -168
09.02. 5:15h APAT Turnier in Simmering -240

45h +611€

The tournament began on saturday at 5pm. 20k, 45 min
I started at 6:30pm and busted with the first bullet in the 2. hand. Got AKo and lost 18k at bb 100 in a 3b pot vs KQo. Wasnt really necessary but didnt want to fold TPTK in a 120€ tournament with re-entry possibility.
Second bullet wasnt much better...was so fuc**** card dead must have had a really nitty image because i kept folding and folding and folding. It began to tilt me a lot because im running like this for over 1 year now in live tournaments. I raise pre 2 times in 4,5h.
First hand i raise KJo, 2 calls, sb squeezed, i almost 4b because it was a good spot for sb to steal but didnt do it because i couldnt re-enter.
Second hand i raise KQo in ep, bb 3b for the first time, i fold and he shows AQo.

Blinded down to 10bb and doubled up with 55 vs T8s. Then i blinded down again to 9bb and tripled up with 88. I raised once otb with Q9o with 24k and bb 800, bb jams 70k, i fold. The very next hand i get AA (22k), hj limps, i raise to 2,4k, sb, bb and hj call.

Flop (10k) K54
sb donks 3,2k (did that before 2 times with TP), bb folds, hj calls, i call.
Turn (20k) K546
sb checks, hj checks, i jam 17k, sb tank-calls, hj snap-calls
River (71k) K5466
both check, sb had a King i think, hj 86o

Really unfortunate. Could have done a lot of damage with a healthy stack and a little bit of rungood
I guess i save up the rungood for las vegas

Almost went home after the tournament but luckily a friend convinced me to stay and play CG. So i sat down at his 1/2 table at midnight which was a really really good decision.

The table was good at the beginning and got better and better and better. I think it was the best 1/2 table i have ever been at. There was 4k or more at the table which is really sick considering that there is a 200€ max buy in

I was quickly up 600-700. Then there came a drunk action player. He raised every hand to 10€ and bet every board till the river no matter how many players were in the hand and no matter what he had.

I doubled him up right at the beginning:

I raise in mp to 10 with 76, action player and blinds call.
Flop (40) J96
i cbet 25, action player and bb (400€) call.
Turn (115) J96A
i bet 70, action player jams 150, bb folds, i call
River (415) J96A8
he shows A8 LOL

Shortly after the hand i lost another pot and was only up 300 bucks.
Then the action player lost a big pot with T4s vs Qx on QQQTK and i said to my friend that if i had quads vs this guy i would just jam because he would never ever fold a FH. Funnily enough 15-20 minutes after i said that following hand happened:

Action player limps utg, 3 more limpers, sb completes, ich check in bb 94
Flop (12) 444
sb checks, i check, utg bets 10, sb calls, i call
Turn (42) 4443
utg bets 10, sb calls, i call
River (72) 4443
utg bets 30, sb calls, i raise to 300 (utg had 297), utg calls, sb folds.

utg had this time 55. But he would have also called with a 3. If he had 1k i would have raise to 1k and he also would have called

I found it to be really funny because of talking to my friend about that spot and then it really happens haha.

I also won a fat 800€ pot with QQ on A3Q5T After the guy called my allin otr with AK he said "i put you exactly on this hand or on AQ"...so thanks a lot for calling anyways Its really funny when people say that.

Table broke at 7:30am. In for 400€, out for 1601€ -> +1201€

My best 1/2 session ever

Hi everybody

Was pretty lazy and unmotivated with playing and writing the blog

Short update:

Played in February 115h, +3354€

In march i only played 28:42h , +1364€



Somehow i wasnt motivated to go playing.

I went again yesterday and 2 days ago. Had a lot of fun even thou i didnt run good. But i feel ready to go grinding again.

Was pretty card dead yesterday and couldnt hit a flop. But got dealt JJ 3 times and won 3 times which isnt always the case. Made a bluff that cost me about 500€.

After around 1 hour at the tabe i get JJ (only raised once before and x/f otf). 1 Limper, i raise to 15€ (~600€ stack), villain (~1k) calls in bb, limper calls.

Flop (46€) 982
both check, i cbet 32€, only V in bb calls
Turn (110€) 9823
V checks, i bet 80, he calls
River (270€) 9823A
V checks, i bet 135, he tank-calls with TT

1 or 2 orbits after the hand i get dealt AQ. Same villain raises in ep to 15, i 3b to 50, he calls.
Flop (104) 743
i cbet 45, he calls
Turn (194) 7438
V checks, i bet 122, he calls
River (438€) 74382
V checks, i bet 255. He thinks for a while and wants to fold a few times but calls in the end with AKo

I thought i could get him to fold because of my tight image and because of the JJ hand before. Thought he has a pp again.

Finished the session with -197€

2019 was really good so far. But only played 264,5h. +9611€



Hopefully it continues like that

great results!

I've been to Vienna a couple times, played tournaments and cash in monetsino, softest games i ever saw. couldn't stand the cigarette smoke, do they still allow that?
are the dealers still so pushy about tips? very annoying.

played my worse PLO hand there ever.

https://www.trzesniewski.at/

enjoyed this place a lot too!

i am also from vienna and playing there too (CCC,Montesino,Bond,...evrywhere)

PLO is printing money since the biggest donks u can imagine are playing there PLO. lol.
you just need enough BR to overcome the variance, they luck a lot this fish.
but in longrun its easy to win for advanced plo players.

Nice win rate man. GL, keep crushing

Ya smoking is still allowed...I also dont like. But there are non smoking areas too.
Not all dealers are like that but they dont get a normal salary. They have to pay i think 7€ for 0,5h thats why they need the tips.

I like that place too

I like playing plo here and there but i dont like the variance. I agree that they are clueless. Even more clueless then in nlh.
You play a lot?

Thank you

at the moment i play a lot online, also having here my own PLO Challenge (you can look here in the same section). i also play a lot live, i have been playing in kings casino this week and in another casino, now i am back in vienna

i also dont like the variance, but you can`t change it
its a high variance game, but when you are good and have enough bankroll/buy-ins for your limit, you should overcome it. aber es ist echt manchmal frustrierend man, das muss man echt aushalten können!

Hey, man, nice results! I'm planning to visit Vienna - will I have problems at the tables without knowing German?

no, its german or english on table, and almost all speak english here so when you speak english, its all ok. but they talk german a lot, but they can`t talk about their hands or somethign during the hand, because the dealer (and other players too) are listening, so no problem

Cheers!

what limits are you playing online? How was it at Kings?
Will have a look at your challenge later.

Ja ist echt frustrierend

Played yesterday my worst session ever. Didnt happen too much because i didnt get too many playable hands and rarely hit a flop.

Thursdays session:

Started in Montesino. There were 2 1/2 tables and i asked if we could change it to no max which is uncapped but a player didnt want to. Not a big deal because the table wasnt really good anyways.
Played 1 bigger pot were i got coolered...

- 1 limper, a donk limps, i try to isolate the donk and raise to 12€ with T7 in lp, btn, bb and both limper call. Could have raised bigger but i always raise to 8+1bb per limper at 1/2 and dont like to change that.

Flop (61€) KT7
bb donks 21€, 1 guy calls, donk folds, i raise to 86€, btn folds, bb calls, the other guy also calls and is allin with 70€.
Turn (303€) KT78
bb donks 80€, i go allin for 180€ total. BB doesnt like it and says the way he played the hand he has to call now. I thought great he has for sure a FD or QJ like i suspected.
River is a 2 or 3, i show my hand thinking im good and he shows KTo

- mp raises to 6€, co calls, i squeeze to 35€ in sb with TT, mp folds, co calls.
Flop (78€) Q85
i cbet 37€, co calls
Turn (152€) Q856
check check
River (152€) Q856K
check, he checks back, i lose to KT and he says he put me on JJ LOL

Later i drove to Simmering because my table wasnt good and because of a 1/3 table running there. Was a pretty swingy session...

-Right at the beginning i lost a big pot with AA vs 22 on J8249
He called 40 pre, only called otf and ott and moved allin otr. Didnt think im good otr very often but had to call 150€ for an ~800€ pot.

- Then i won a medium sized pot with KQo on JT7AA
I moved allin otr but unfortunately i didnt get called

- Straddle to 6, 1 caller, i raise to 30€ with 76, donkey in straddle calls, limper calls.
Flop (94€) T26
i cbet 50€, donkey moves allin for 180€, i call and lose to 62

-I folded in a 3b pot AK on KJ9 vs a x/r allin against a nitty player.

- Straddle, i raise 20€ with A5 in mp, 5 caller lol
Flop (120€) AT3
all check
Turn (120€) AT35
nitty player in bb leads 70€, i just call, loose asian bluff happy player to my left raises to 300€ (300€ behind). I thought about jamming, but just called because i wanted to give him the opportunity to give me his whole stack otr.
River (790€) AT352
i check, he puts me allin for ~300€, i snap-call and win against Q5

It played a lot bigger than 1/3 because of the straddle and a lot of times restraddle and rerestraddle to 12€ and 24€.

Montesino -268€, Simmering +542€. Session +274€


Yesterdays session:

In my very first hand i raise to 20€ after 2 limpers (both 100€) with KQo, 1 limper calls, the other one goes allin for 100€, i called and lost vs ATo.

After the KQo hand i lost every hand and was quickly down about 400€.
Then...

-i raise in lp after 3 limpers to 25€ with J9, 2 players call
Flop (80€) Q73
both check, i cbet 50€, both call
Turn (230€) Q73T
both check and because one player is kinda signalizing that he going to fold i bet 200€ and put them allin (they had between 150€ and 190€).
One of them calls. River 8

- about 30 minutes after the hand i tried to bluff a new player. He was sitting at the table for 20 minutes and trippled his stack to 600€ in 3 hands because of rungood.
Straddle to 6, he raises in mp to 20€, i 3b to 62€ in mp with A4, he calls.
Flop (134€) JJ7
i cbet 52€, he calls
Turn (238€) JJ75
i bet ~130€, he calls
River (498€) JJ752
i bet ~250€, he tanks and says he has to call and wins with QQ

I thought about giving up otr because i didnt exactly know what im trying to rep but just couldnt help myself

A few minutes after the hand he left

Finished the session in the end with -780€

After the session i drank my first beer after not drinking alcohol for a year. Had my last beer on march 26 or 28 and goal was to not drink for 12 months.
Really proud that i did it

The beer had nothing to do with the session