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01-31-2013 , 05:59 PM
Beautiful red line
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02-01-2013 , 04:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Roszzz
Beautiful red line
Thanks, but I'm aiming to make the green line even prettier

Let's set February goals now...

Goals for February:

[ ] Play only at 5NL
[ ] Do not go checking the profit line every few hands! Checking it is only allowed once in an hour, at the start of the hour.
[ ] Review top & bottom 5 hands -in terms of profits/losses- after every day, post at 2p2 if necessary
[ ] Min. 30 hours of studying
[ ] Read Verneer's PDF
[ ] Profit
[ ] Keep SilverStar status (around 10k hands, this'll be tough as I'll be away from home for 10 days)
[ ] Get the first VIP Stellar Reward of the year


If I can pass the $200 profit total for 5NL this month, I will consider moving up to 10NL in march...

Wish me luck!
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02-01-2013 , 05:19 AM
First pocket Aces of the month, dully wasted...

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 107.6 BB
UTG+1: 40 BB
UTG+2: 64.2 BB
MP: 386.2 BB
MP+1: 42.4 BB
CO: 57.8 BB
BTN: 100 BB
Hero (SB): 100 BB
BB: 40 BB

Hero posts SB 0.4 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A A

fold, fold, fold, fold, MP+1 raises to 2 BB, CO calls 2 BB, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, fold, MP+1 calls 7 BB, CO calls 7 BB

Flop: ($1.40, 3 players) K K 9
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB

Turn: ($1.85, 3 players) 4
Hero checks, MP+1 bets 14 BB, CO calls 14 BB, fold

River: ($3.25, 2 players) 6
MP+1 bets 16.4 BB and is all-in, CO calls 16.4 BB

Spoiler:
MP+1 shows Q K (Three of a Kind, Kings) (Pre 60%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
CO shows 9 8 (Two Pair, Kings and Nines) (Pre 40%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
MP+1 wins 93.8 BB
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02-02-2013 , 11:32 AM
I just hit the $200 profit mark for 5NL.
However I'll continue at 5NL for a little more while though I might consider adding a $10NL table as I go.

I'm not sure what to do...

Any help appreciated on the following options:
1. Keep playing 5NL until X happens.

2. Move directly to 10NL as you have the $400 BR for it.

3. Keep playing at 5NL, reduce tables and add 1 10NL table.

4. Or else???
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02-02-2013 , 11:49 AM
Here's the graph of concept, it took me 22,888 hands to double up my BR (40 buy-ins) at this level, in less than 2 months from 1 to 5 tables at a time (which was about 12,5k hands for 2NL and something btw 20-40k hands at 4NL).

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02-02-2013 , 06:08 PM
Add a couple of NL10 tables to NL5, get comfortable in a week or so and then switch. Not much of a difference from what I've noticed between the two stakes.
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02-03-2013 , 01:54 AM
Nice read and graphs.
I think know what you are doing. This style of play is great. You probably observe the tables and are constantly looking for spots where villian has weak tendencys and then push him of his hand. This you can only see when you observe the tables en detail.

I lost horrible when multitabling. When multitabling(for me +4 tables) you are totally dependent on stats and and cards/flop. But when you analyse an opponent while playing until you know him like its your brother you can crush them.

Maybe Bring up the blue line some more. There is some potential. Betsizing when Villian is beat. Or min check raises on the river. Many Villians at 5nl want to see the cards lol or bet when the draw isnt completed when you show weakness/check on the river.

1. play until you bring your blue line up(while making more bb/100)

3. After you had a good 5NL session play some hands on 10NL until you are comfortable up there. Better then mixing.

Your blog motivates me to start one myself.

whats your 3bet%?
would you post your positional stats?(im assuming you have good bb/100 from all positions?)
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02-03-2013 , 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by asriva
Add a couple of NL10 tables to NL5, get comfortable in a week or so and then switch. Not much of a difference from what I've noticed between the two stakes.
When I first heard this, it sounded feasible, however playing different blind levels at the same time might cause some extra distraction, and distraction is what we don't want at poker right?

You might be correct about the small difference on gameplay btw 5-10NL, I'll look for the related posts in the beginners forum as well.

Thanks for the input!
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02-03-2013 , 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by icantfoldatc
Nice read and graphs.
I think know what you are doing. This style of play is great. You probably observe the tables and are constantly looking for spots where villian has weak tendencys and then push him of his hand. This you can only see when you observe the tables en detail.

I lost horrible when multitabling. When multitabling(for me +4 tables) you are totally dependent on stats and and cards/flop. But when you analyse an opponent while playing until you know him like its your brother you can crush them.
Thank you

This is exactly it! However, even when I'm multitabling 5 tables or more, I do have "favorite" tables. Those are the ones with more or a huge fish in them. So I pay more attention to them until I catch the fish there, and meanwhile otomatize my moves on the other tables.


Quote:
Originally Posted by icantfoldatc
Maybe Bring up the blue line some more. There is some potential. Betsizing when Villian is beat. Or min check raises on the river. Many Villians at 5nl want to see the cards lol or bet when the draw isnt completed when you show weakness/check on the river.

1. play until you bring your blue line up(while making more bb/100)

3. After you had a good 5NL session play some hands on 10NL until you are comfortable up there. Better then mixing.
I agree with trying to improve the blue line and will be working on that, but for how long I'm not sure. However I won't be playing another session after a 5NL session as I'll be tired even if I was victorious.

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Originally Posted by icantfoldatc
Your blog motivates me to start one myself.

whats your 3bet%?
would you post your positional stats?(im assuming you have good bb/100 from all positions?)
Thanks, your posts motivate me to post more

Overall:
VPIP: 27,94
PFR: 19,46
3B PF%: 4
C-bet F: 84
C-bet F Success: 51
C-bet T: 64
C-bet T Success: 29

And for the positional stats:
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02-03-2013 , 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by PokeRock
When I first heard this, it sounded feasible, however playing different blind levels at the same time might cause some extra distraction, and distraction is what we don't want at poker right?

You might be correct about the small difference on gameplay btw 5-10NL, I'll look for the related posts in the beginners forum as well.

Thanks for the input!
Varies from person to person.

You're playing 4 tables right ? Start with 2 tables of NL10, add more as you get comfortable. This way worked for me when I moved from NL2 to NL5.
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02-03-2013 , 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by asriva
Varies from person to person.

You're playing 4 tables right ? Start with 2 tables of NL10, add more as you get comfortable. This way worked for me when I moved from NL2 to NL5.
Thanks. My transition from 2NL to 4NL was directly moving to 4NL when I had the BR, going from 3 tables to 1 at first.

Then I moved from 4NL to 10NL, playing 45MTTSNG tourneys in between. And I was struck by lightning, that was probably because I had adapted to tourney play at that time and was playing bad for the cash tables.

Then I started playing 5NL on 1 table, then 2, then 3, then came the others. Depending on my mood and energy, the tables are numbered from 3-8 during the latest sessions. And I sometimes close other tables and focus on only 1 when I'm hunting for a particular fish.

Also, I just had the best AK hand of the years. The raiser is a fish, unfortunately sitting on my left. His PFR was 0 before this hand over 70+ hands. I thought he had a pair of 88+, and AA also KK was in the range, but the flop made me smile

PokerStars - $0.05 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 126.8 BB
UTG+2: 41 BB
MP: 125.8 BB
MP+1: 100 BB
CO: 107 BB
BTN: 45.4 BB
SB: 125.8 BB
Hero (BB): 129.8 BB
UTG: 77.4 BB

SB posts SB 0.4 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.07) Hero has A K

UTG raises to 16 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 15 BB

Flop: ($1.62, 2 players) A K A
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($1.62, 2 players) J
Hero checks, UTG checks

River: ($1.62, 2 players) 9
Hero bets 23 BB, UTG raises to 61.4 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 38.4 BB

Spoiler:
UTG shows 9 9 (Full House, Nines full of Aces) (Pre 56%, Flop 0%, Turn 0%)
Hero shows A K (Full House, Aces full of Kings) (Pre 44%, Flop 100%, Turn 100%)
Hero wins 148.8 BB
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02-03-2013 , 10:04 AM
I think it is time for a leap of faith.

I'm moving up to 10NL right now...
I'll move down to 5NL if I go -5BI.

Goals update:
[X] Play only at 5NL
[ ] Keep playing at 10NL

5NL Monthly Graph (hopefully my final 5NL graph):


Wish me luck gentlemen!
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02-03-2013 , 03:48 PM
I started playing 1 table sessions until I got used to the higher blinds, now I'm adding a second table.

I'm seeing some regs from 5NL, who now seem to be grinding 10NL tables. It's as if I'm seeing mates from high school at the university, thehehe
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02-03-2013 , 04:03 PM
PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 8 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 6.2 BB
SB: 228 BB
BB: 151.4 BB
UTG: 35 BB
UTG+1: 328.3 BB
MP: 103 BB
MP+1: 228.8 BB
Hero (CO): 209.3 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has A 4

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BTN raises to 6 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 10 BB, fold

Spoiler:
Hero wins 13.5 BB


Spoiler:
lol, please note the BTN's stack size.
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02-04-2013 , 02:25 AM
I'm liking this thread. I saw that you were very results oriented. That is a good goal to strive for, but can be more costly when you account for the opportunity cost of learning while at a very low level. I guess I'm saying just don't be too hung up on it, and don't be afraid to try new things. BTW I noticed you were a Biological engineer, I am looking to get into an engineering field and was considering Biological. I have read that the field is expected to increase more than any other engineering field, but was told it's hard to get a solid job at the moment. Is there any advice you would give to a student considering the field?
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02-04-2013 , 04:03 AM
Good luck at 10NL!
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02-04-2013 , 05:15 AM
Yer good luck, have this feeling you're gonna do well
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02-04-2013 , 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by shredhead84
I'm liking this thread. I saw that you were very results oriented. That is a good goal to strive for, but can be more costly when you account for the opportunity cost of learning while at a very low level. I guess I'm saying just don't be too hung up on it, and don't be afraid to try new things. BTW I noticed you were a Biological engineer, I am looking to get into an engineering field and was considering Biological. I have read that the field is expected to increase more than any other engineering field, but was told it's hard to get a solid job at the moment. Is there any advice you would give to a student considering the field?
Thanks for the input.
I know that I'm quite a bit result oriented, that's a side effect of working in the pharma industry. That's why I'm trying to force myself to study more while at this level.

My field is "biomedical" engineering not biological.
Biomedical Engineering is a multidisciplinary field in which medicine and many different fields of engineering fuses. The opportunities in research and development are plenty depending on your specialty, you can work with medical lasers, medical imaging, robotics, developing biochemical tests, etc etc. But the job opportunities depend on your country or the country you want to live in.
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02-04-2013 , 11:25 AM
Do you stack or tile tables?
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02-04-2013 , 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by fegelein
Do you stack or tile tables?
Tile, so I can see them all(most) at once.

However, blackrain recommends stacking, so that you automatize your actions in a limited time and it might be more helpful as you add more tables.

One option can be to stack them and then seperate some with huge fish or good action from the crowd.
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02-04-2013 , 12:54 PM
What I've seen so far at 10NL is that I have to tighten up my preflop range.
I get called with idiot hands on the river, even by high cards on a very draw heavy board and even if I had done my bet sizings correctly.

So if I tighten up and push it when I have it, it'll be golden value town for me.

I currently have a wavy graph over 700 hands, going up to a $36 profit (sunday play)! And down back to -$5 (monday after work play).

The games of 5NL and 10NL are definitely not the same, for example I saw a few supernovas at this level, but there are still plenty of fish around.

So, I have to table select more and tighten up and value town those bitches.

Let's do this!
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02-04-2013 , 04:46 PM
Bink!

[X] Get the first VIP Stellar Reward of the year

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02-04-2013 , 05:27 PM
I'm always being shown the top of the ranges today...

PokerStars - $0.10 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 55.4 BB
BTN: 101.2 BB
SB: 49.7 BB
BB: 110.1 BB
UTG: 113.9 BB
Hero (UTG+1): 112.3 BB
UTG+2: 86.4 BB
MP: 102.8 BB
MP+1: 40 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: $0.15) Hero has Q Q

fold, Hero raises to 4 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, fold, SB calls 3.5 BB, fold

Flop: ($0.90, 2 players) 8 T Q
SB checks, Hero bets 6 BB, SB calls 6 BB

Turn: ($2.10, 2 players) K
SB checks, Hero bets 20 BB, SB raises to 39.7 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 19.7 BB

River: ($10.04, 2 players) 3

Spoiler:
SB shows A J (Straight, Ace High) (Pre 29%, Flop 24%, Turn 77%)
Hero shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens) (Pre 71%, Flop 76%, Turn 23%)
SB wins 95.9 BB
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02-04-2013 , 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by PokeRock
What I've seen so far at 10NL is that I have to tighten up my preflop range.
I get called with idiot hands on the river, even by high cards on a very draw heavy board and even if I had done my bet sizings correctly.
Draws that completed by the river right? If not, it's kind of standard to call down with high cards on uncompleted draw boards. Value with overbets when confronted with these types of players.

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Originally Posted by PokeRock
So if I tighten up and push it when I have it, it'll be golden value town for me.
I just noticed you played full ring. Is that your normal game or do you play 6max for the majority of your results? Because the stats you provided are LAG even compared to 6max standards.
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02-04-2013 , 06:12 PM
Ahh figured it out the gap in your VPIP and PFR comes from limping the small pairs in EP,

I don't think it's a good idea, I'd just drop the small pairs from my EP range in FR, you won't ever get involved in a big postflop pot without having the sucker set.

It might work in rare cases though that you can limp-call and then x/r your set into overpairs not believing you

But anyone with half a brain will realise that your limping range consists exactly of 22-66 in EP and nothing else

So anyone who can hand read will raise you to 4-5x and cbet any flop & turn and every card >6 that's coming on turn/river as you're forced to play fit or fold on the flop OOP with a small pair.

You'd have to limp some of your bigger hands as well for balance but you're probably not going to start limping AA UTG I hope

It's easier to just cut that part from our EP range
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