I've done numerous PG&C threads before. They all get off to an OK start, but as with many threads here they just die off. That's mainly due to myself setting unreasonable goals.

Previously I've tried to do $20 to millionaire etc etc, but I'm not going to set myself a financial target here.

I'm going to play 10,000 9-max Turbo SnGs on Stars. There's no timeframe.

I know I can be a winner at these games. my BB/100 is 7.49 over 33k hands, however I'm in the red. I've never made a real profit, but that's mainly due to poor BRM and just not playing properly. A lot is probably also down to poor bubble play.

Below are two graphs for Turbo SnGs since I started tracking:



I'm not going to set out a time frame for posting in this thread. I'll try to post how many games and how much +/- I am at least once a week, maybe some graphs or some interesting hands, but mainly this thread is to serve as some kind of documentation.

I started this last week but didn't get round to starting a thread, so at the moment we're 40 games in and +$9.08

GL me.

Been running pretty bad at 50-75bb, but running good in flips and short which is where it matters in these.

86 games - +$40.57

I also eventually just cashed in my SC for a $10 rebate, I'm going to track that here from now on so I have a record of my RB.

RB - $10

Also forgot to mention that I often finish the day by playing a few spins which I've been running OK in and have added a bit to the total so it's not entirely a FR Turbo SnG 'challenge'

Not going well over the last 85 games. Running -$35 below EV, and 350bb- ev.

We're now at 175 games and +$2.96

I'm going to cut the amount of tables I play until I am happy that I am playing well and making all the right decisions then will increase one table at a time.

Feeling like an utter loser today. Went on a 25BI streak of no cashes today. Just ran into the top of everyones range on what felt like every hand and then lost almost every flip. Got crushed on 75/25s when we were 4/5 handed.

Need to really try and pull my head together. The hardest thing I find is that obviously all my graphs are just pointing vertically down. Am I really running bad or just playing like a fish?

Now at 207 games and -$26.57

Hopefully have a great day tomorrow and feel better about things.

Ugh - still not going great.

Really feel like I am playing solid poker, but just keep running into the absolute nuts of peoples ranges. Ran thru all of my bustout hands yesterday on PT4 and had a look at the ICM calcs for each situation and in 90% I am making the right ICM decision but just getting **** on every time.

Seems like every time I have AQ 5 handed or 4 handed with ~10bb they just always have AK or AA.

Have been involved in set over set in first 3/4 hands like 5 times in the last 4 days - one managed to make quads... lol.

Going to play some Live poker tonight and hopefully feel better about the game. Have not played live for months, and playing a £10k gtd in plymouth. 25K starting with 25/50 blinds and a 25k add on for 1/2 of the entry price. 45 min levels so total opposite of 9man turbo SnGs but should be fun.

Looking forward to playing some deep poker again. Hopefully make a run.

Might post some graphs at the end of todays session. Down to playing only 4 tables now to see if I am making any glaring mistakes...

I've grinded the 9m for quite some time and made >10% evroi in the KO at 10$ stakes for ~20k games, so might give some advice:

- Volume in 9m is dead really, above 10$ nothing really runs so there is no room to move past the midstakes anymore. Ppl just don't like that structure anymore. Last time I played (couple months ago, pre chests), you could only get 15+ tables running on 10$+ stakes at peak (ko, hyper and turbo combined), otherwise needed to mix gametypes. Doesn't mean they aren't profitable, especially KO are incredibly soft and basically all 9m regs suck hard postflop in relation to 6m/hu/spins. Can print an ok~ish hourly in those with no perspective of moving up, imho right now not a good gametype to chose. MTT, Spins, HU, Cash, 6m are all better options.

- If u still wanna grind em hard, better measure only in evroi/hem2redline, not in cEV or evbb/100, that will lead to wrong conclusions. Huge edges come from ppl misplaying bubbles, 3h and 5-6h with uneven stack distributions. How to exploit pop tendencies at bubbles and adapt to regs that overplay some lines is pretty strong driver to evroi. Not so much for evbb/100. You can measure early game in evbb/100, that's ok cause ICM impact is low, can treat 7-9 as cashgame basically as long as the blinds are low. Again for high blinds, the evbb/100 isn't worth much as measure, cause the impact on $ev deviates strongly.

GL

Thanks so much for the reply man.

I am currently grinding $3.50 and have been keeping an eye on $7s as obviously that is next target and I agree that they really don't run that often.

The problem I have is that I can't really grind MTT's because of the time constraints, and I've just never been very good at cash. I've had periods where I've tried to grind it out playing 10NL but I just suck at not bluffing and calling down too light. Spins are OK, so I might start playing a few more of those and see where that goes.

Yeah, I figured that was the case with evBB but felt that as long as it wasn't massively going the wrong way I was still playing semi-solid. My cEV is not looking great right now, but I can't really work out how it's calculated? I played a game the other day and literally crushed it until HU and then got it in with AQs vs 89 and got sucked out then JJ vs K7 for the rest of the chips and me cEV was -$1.98?

So played Day 1b of this Live Tourney on Friday Night. Played really well, super happy with all of my decisions and felt like I didn't make a wrong decision all night.

I had never really set 'session goals' before, but had seen a few Pros doing it in the WSOP so decided to try it out. My goals were to be at 45k by the Add-on, and then 115k by the end of the night. That would have given me 60BB going into Day to.

Was at 48k by the first break which I was pumped about as I ran pretty good but felt like I got the maximum most times. I had a super clear read on pretty much the whole table and felt like a boss. I've never really felt like that before at the Live table. I've always not really had the confidence if there was a reg at the table.

Coming into the last level of the night I was at about 120k, and then with about 4 hands left there was a super short stack on the BB (he had about 25k and made it clear he was going to either spin it up or bust). The HJ opens to 2.5x (who I had been playing pots with all night and clearly wasn't happy) and I flat with ATo. The BB shoves blind and the HJ folds but is clearly pretty pissed about it.

We flip and he has 52o vs my ATo for a pot which would have given me chip lead for my day. Flop comes 2s9sJs (we have As), turn is the 8x so we now have two overs, OESD and FD, but we brick river.

So finished the day on 88k which I was obviously not pumped about but still happy with how I played.

PLayed day 2 yesterday and had a pretty good first table. We were first table to break which was a little disappointing but w/e.

Managed to chip up to 170k in the first level without being all-in. Just ran good and got the maximum..

Anyway, to stop this story dragging on - I feel like I played pretty well all day. Missed some value in some spots, but other than that I feel like I didn't put a foot wrong. I made some pretty light calls like I tend to do, but in each spot I really spent time analysing the situation and playing the hand out in my head which really helped.

We made the money with about 11bb, then ran ok in the run up to FT (15 paid). Made the FT in 7/9 with about 15bb and then got AQ vs AQ and made runner runner flush which was abit sick and I felt pretty sorry for the dude. I took 80% of his chips, but it did mean I had chips to play some pots which was great.

Ended up knocking a couple people out and went into 4 handed with about 35bb with a 30bb avg stack.

Managed to knock out the resident sicko reg in 4th with QQ vs QT sb vs bb and 3 handed we made a deal to even the payouts which I was pumped with because 3rd was £2,500 before deal and it bumped up to £3250. Even tho I had chip lead I knew the other guys were better than me so wanted to lessen variance.

Then the two other guys got into a huge pot for like 70% of the chips in play and left the other dude with 1bb so he busted and we were HU. I called a shove with JJ vs his QT and he flops trip tens which was a bit sick when we were 3 handed so I was already a bit short.

Got back to about a 55/45 chip distribution in his favour and then just ran bad. Ended up getting all in pre with KQs and he wakes up with AKs and we're no good.

Still took home £4250 and as you can probably tell by my rambling on here I'm pretty pumped. It was so good to play some deep poker again and I feel really happy with how I played and I know now that I can play with some of the better regs in my area and they aren't completely crushing me. I feel like I got some real respect from those guys and two of the dealers actually picked me ftw from how they saw me play on Day 1 which was super nice and gave me a massive confidence boost.

anyway, stoked on Poker right now even if I am running like dog-****e online!