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01-20-2016 , 04:22 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by PandaLife
Redline wr seems too low and the main issue here, should be like -10bb/100 so we are 'missing' 26 BI right there, and then showdown wr is on the low side as well especially when taking into account that redline is what it is.
Where did you get the -10bb figure from? I agree that a massively losing redline is probably a bad sign but I was under the impression that there was a fairly wide range when it comes to differences between winning players red lines, -10bb/100 seems very specific.
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01-20-2016 , 04:31 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by sirin
Where did you get the -10bb figure from? I agree that a massively losing redline is probably a bad sign but I was under the impression that there was a fairly wide range when it comes to differences between winning players red lines, -10bb/100 seems very specific.
Have heard that number being tossed around at couple different sites, mainly in coaching vids. One I can remember now is W34z3l from pokervip. Of course it's gonna be different for limits/player pools etc. but it sounds to me like a nice guideline to have around -10bb.
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01-20-2016 , 05:27 PM
Losing redline is for pussies!
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01-20-2016 , 08:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kangal_
H3 Bet/call he competent. Bet/fold a good exploit vs fish and weak regs.

H6. Raise flop. Ranges are super close on this flop, we probably have a slight advantage. This seems like one of the nut combos to raise.
These seemed good.
h6 Didn't want to raise because he could have all sets + T8s in his range, but that's something to think about.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
after preflop I don't see a whole lot wrong with villain's line there, he just smashed into the top of your range.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Not a huge fan of pre w/ regards to hand choice + sizing, but yeah post flop is whatever imo, not the greatest river to bluff but flop + turn is OK
In hindsight, I like his river bluff. PF is bad, flop + turn are debatable, river is best played imo.

Quote:
Originally Posted by PandaLife
Have heard that number being tossed around at couple different sites, mainly in coaching vids. One I can remember now is W34z3l from pokervip. Of course it's gonna be different for limits/player pools etc. but it sounds to me like a nice guideline to have around -10bb.
Red line depends on how much you can make other players fold, and how often you get bluffed out of the pot. It's also the way we approach the game. Some people want to see showdowns, others don't hesitate using the bet-button.
I know in theory which steps to take in order to improve the red line, practical implementation not there yet. Depends a lot on the players and how much you can get away with.


Gotta put in some hours today and see what develops. Can't plan too much ahead, just play and see what happens.

Last edited by Fishtankz; 01-20-2016 at 08:52 PM.
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01-21-2016 , 07:49 AM
Very happy about putting in the hours today. Going to take a lot of days like these to get out of the hole, but it's always better than nothing!
I'll continue playing small stakes 100-200nl. It feels like the responsible thing to do. Down approx -4.5k this month after RB. Would like to get close to 0 before shotting mid stakes again. Altho one might say that after winning 34k in 2 months (lol EV), I could afford the risk. Don't feel like it yet tho. It's important to develop patience. Responsible gambling...

Cleared bank job promo on Betfair. Don't feel like playing there after they increased the rake cap. Have 2 bonuses on MPN, need to rake 2k €. Then maybe Stars 200nl.
I made few adjustments to my game and things are starting to work out. Some old leaks are vanishing which is great.
Let's stay patient, put in the hours and crush!

small brag, finally won a pot at HU

Microgaming - €1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 101 BB (VPIP: 7.14, PFR: 7.14, 3Bet Preflop: 25.00, Hands: 15)
Hero (BB): 200.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 8 8

SB raises to 2.5 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, SB calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (18 BB, 2 players) 6 3 T
Hero bets 10 BB, SB calls 10 BB

Turn: (38 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, SB bets 14 BB, Hero calls 14 BB

River: (66 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, SB bets 68 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 67.5 BB

Spoiler:
SB shows A J (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 45%, Flop 28%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows 8 8 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 55%, Flop 72%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins 200 BB
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01-22-2016 , 05:22 AM
Had some thoughts yesterday about how it's all one long session. Bena made me realize that being down -4.5k is normal in these limits . No way I'm -EV and my net worth can handle the shots. Main thing to look for is not tilting, ever. Will have to see how it goes, might get back to mid stakes and just accept the losing month.
Also had this thought that most of our winnings are accumulated from very bad fish. Most my losses this month are from table starting / HU. If you play vs very bad fish there should be no issue

Played some more 1k. There one was regfish playing, saw him 3b jam 62o 50bb, so joined the table (he didn't get called but showed). The guy clearly hated money, so I was waiting for opportunities. Didn't get a chance unfortunately.
Overall played decent. Still gonna put in 2nd session with heavy emphasis on bumhunting. This session was +EV after RB but lost AKs vs AQo all-in so ended down a bit.

Gross spot and possible misplay. never gonna win at SD, SPR is very awkward (both turn + riv), sooooo....

Microgaming - €10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 115.4 BB
BB: 142.7 BB
UTG: 431.64 BB
UTG+1: 112.69 BB
MP: 83.45 BB
CO: 141.58 BB
Hero (BTN): 127.7 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, UTG+1 contributes 0 BB to the Bad Beat Jackpot

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T 9

fold, fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, Hero calls 3 BB, SB calls 2.5 BB, BB raises to 16 BB, fold, Hero calls 13 BB, fold

Flop: (38 BB, 2 players) 7 A J
BB bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

Turn: (70 BB, 2 players) 3
BB checks, Hero bets 26 BB, BB raises to 110.7 BB and is all-in, fold

BB wins 206.4 BB

guy claims he had AKo w/
only long run matters tho... he could be wide OTB too.

Microgaming - €10 NL (9 max) - Holdem - 7 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG+1: 59.2 BB
MP: 410.89 BB
CO: 127.6 BB
BTN: 344.35 BB
SB: 142.3 BB
BB: 122.2 BB
Hero (UTG): 123.08 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q K

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BTN raises to 11 BB, fold, fold, Hero calls 8 BB

Flop: (23.5 BB, 2 players) T 4 Q
Hero checks, BTN bets 9 BB, Hero calls 9 BB

Turn: (41.5 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BTN bets 23 BB, Hero calls 23 BB

River: (87.5 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, BTN bets 301.35 BB and is all-in, fold

BTN wins 388.55 BB

lol. table breaking.

Microgaming - €10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 102 BB
Hero (SB): 149.4 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J K

Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 22 BB, BB raises to 102 BB and is all-in, fold

Spoiler:
BB shows 8 Q ()

BB wins 123 BB


follow the leader
(table breaking again)

Microgaming - €1 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 24.71, PFR: 18.07, 3Bet Preflop: 9.14, Hands: 949)
Hero (SB): 168.5 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T A

Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB raises to 3 BB, Hero raises to 9 BB, BB raises to 21 BB, Hero raises to 168.5 BB and is all-in, BB calls 79 BB and is all-in

Flop: (200 BB, 2 players) 9 2 8

Turn: (200 BB, 2 players) 6

River: (200 BB, 2 players) J

Spoiler:
BB shows 5 5 (One Pair, Fives)
(Pre 51%, Flop 42%, Turn 59%)
Hero shows T A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 49%, Flop 58%, Turn 41%)
BB wins 199 BB


gotta reconsider my 4b strat on this site

Microgaming - €4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 108.25 BB
Hero (BTN): 114.75 BB
SB: 100.5 BB
BB: 102.76 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, BB contributes 0.01 BB to the Bad Beat Jackpot

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T T

fold, Hero raises to 2.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 9 BB, Hero raises to 22 BB, BB raises to 102.76 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 79.75 BB

Flop: (204 BB, 2 players) J 9 2

Turn: (204 BB, 2 players) 7

River: (204 BB, 2 players) 8
Spoiler:

Hero shows T T (Straight, Jack High)
(Pre 82%, Flop 14%, Turn 14%)
BB shows 2 2 (Three of a Kind, Twos)
(Pre 18%, Flop 86%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins 203.25 BB
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01-22-2016 , 05:39 AM
T9 + first two HU hands seem like misplays to me
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01-22-2016 , 05:52 AM
ATs was ½ strat / ½ for the lol's. Just expected him to be super wide with 4-betting.
T9s we could make him fold something like KQ w/o , KTs, 89s etc. Betting 1/3 w/ GS doesn't need to work very often. Depends how wide he sqz and what hands.
KJo I play mixed with that hand. Don't mind 4-betting if his 3-bet range is wider than usual
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01-22-2016 , 05:57 AM
T9s doesn't seem like a turn it make a lot of sense for us to have a wide 1/3 pot range.
KJo seems far too strong to 4bet here (I mean, if he calls 4bets with a super-wide range here then sure it could be fine)
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01-22-2016 , 06:21 AM
I'm already very tight pre vs the big sqz. I have few flushes there and then a few gut-shots. FWIW 98s could be a fold OTF, since Tx gives KQ better straight.
What's the correct play for this range then? Jam would be 96 into 70 + he could be uncapped for checking so that's out of the question.
I know theoretically we're crushed in this scenario range vs range, but can we find some practical excuse?
If we were 100% crushed I would check, but I still think there's some fold equity.
25% pot could be an option too... probably accomplishes the same as 1/3.
would love some more feedback.
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01-22-2016 , 06:33 AM
T9s seems like a fold the flop or sometimes a raise, calling would be worst option with no bds.
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01-22-2016 , 06:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtankz
I'm already very tight pre vs the big sqz. I have few flushes there and then a few gut-shots. FWIW 98s could be a fold OTF, since Tx gives KQ better straight.
What's the correct play for this range then? Jam would be 96 into 70 + he could be uncapped for checking so that's out of the question.
I know theoretically we're crushed in this scenario range vs range, but can we find some practical excuse?
If we were 100% crushed I would check, but I still think there's some fold equity.
25% pot could be an option too... probably accomplishes the same as 1/3.
would love some more feedback.
I don't think we are crushed facing a turn check, but I don't think equity distributions are structured such that we want to use a merged betting range.
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01-22-2016 , 07:00 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ssg
T9s seems like a fold the flop or sometimes a raise, calling would be worst option with no bds.
I thought about that. Just depends on how valuable position is. And what's our objective pre with this hand.
Think this is one of the boards where we don't have to play back at.
Could just fold pre too though.
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
I don't think we are crushed facing a turn check, but I don't think equity distributions are structured such that we want to use a merged betting range.
Yeah I would xb something like AQs. Bet polarized range of gut-shots and flushes?
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01-22-2016 , 07:49 AM
Depends to what extent you have one-diamond hands here IMO. If you get here with them, I'd bluff TdT-8d8 ahead of this hand, and I really wouldn't mind developing a turn jamming range (it's like 130% pot right?) either, I guess bluffing hands with diamonds for a smaller size if we split. After that I'd need more info on your range than I have.
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01-22-2016 , 12:32 PM
Well things didn't work out today. I reviewed hands and not much you can do.
I could have been exploited by some weird lines by regs, but you can always take benefit of the doubt.
Ran poorly esp. vs fish. Poor board runouts and then the obvious river donk bet. Sigh...

flop too small vs fish but you get the idea. Q62r I think that's good for 1/3

PokerStars - $6 Ante $1.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): 112.15 BB
BB: 113.18 BB (VPIP: 26.62, PFR: 18.41, 3Bet Preflop: 10.29, Hands: 1,186)
UTG: 118.01 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 7.69, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 13)
MP: 171.33 BB (VPIP: 27.69, PFR: 17.32, 3Bet Preflop: 8.71, Hands: 1,766)
CO: 100.83 BB (VPIP: 21.40, PFR: 14.40, 3Bet Preflop: 8.70, Hands: 248)
BTN: 154.92 BB (VPIP: 25.41, PFR: 14.59, 3Bet Preflop: 5.43, Hands: 189)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 6 players post ante of 0.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.7 BB) Hero has Q Q

UTG raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, UTG calls 8 BB

Flop: (24.2 BB, 2 players) 6 2 Q
Hero bets 7.83 BB, UTG raises to 17.66 BB, Hero calls 9.83 BB

Turn: (59.53 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, UTG bets 20.33 BB, Hero calls 20.33 BB

River: (100.19 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero checks, UTG bets 68.82 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 62.96 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:
UTG shows 3 4 (Straight, Six High)
(Pre 20%, Flop 14%, Turn 9%)
Hero shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 80%, Flop 86%, Turn 91%)
UTG wins 225.64 BB


vs mark of the table.

PokerStars - $6 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 21.21, 3Bet Preflop: 12.24, Hands: 465)
UTG: 106.4 BB (VPIP: 24.00, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.69, Hands: 25)
MP: 102.3 BB (VPIP: 27.14, PFR: 19.06, 3Bet Preflop: 10.47, Hands: 1,066)
Hero (CO): 100 BB
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.61, PFR: 17.34, 3Bet Preflop: 8.14, Hands: 411)
SB: 105.89 BB (VPIP: 21.43, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 15)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A J

fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, SB raises to 11 BB, fold, Hero calls 8 BB

Flop: (23 BB, 2 players) 4 J 7
SB bets 30 BB, Hero calls 30 BB

Turn: (83 BB, 2 players) T
SB bets 64.89 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 59 BB and is all-in

River: (201 BB, 2 players) 4

Spoiler:
SB shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Fours)
(Pre 68%, Flop 80%, Turn 89%)
Hero shows A J (Two Pair, Jacks and Fours)
(Pre 32%, Flop 20%, Turn 11%)
SB wins 200.53 BB


bluff catcher vs fish.

PokerStars - $4 NL - Holdem - 9 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (MP+2): 100 BB
CO: 136.92 BB (VPIP: 22.89, PFR: 16.69, 3Bet Preflop: 8.71, Hands: 4,466)
BTN: 93.62 BB (VPIP: 39.62, PFR: 18.87, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 54)
SB: 35.85 BB (VPIP: 22.02, PFR: 17.25, 3Bet Preflop: 7.80, Hands: 723)
BB: 132.21 BB (VPIP: 23.64, PFR: 19.39, 3Bet Preflop: 7.60, Hands: 591)
UTG: 150.8 BB (VPIP: 21.38, PFR: 16.05, 3Bet Preflop: 6.32, Hands: 12,346)
UTG+1: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.79, PFR: 17.66, 3Bet Preflop: 6.94, Hands: 5,209)
MP: 144.17 BB (VPIP: 22.25, PFR: 15.50, 3Bet Preflop: 6.61, Hands: 1,259)
MP+1: 121.51 BB (VPIP: 29.84, PFR: 20.16, 3Bet Preflop: 10.71, Hands: 125)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J 9

fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (9.5 BB, 3 players) 9 8 6
BB checks, Hero bets 6 BB, BTN calls 6 BB, BB calls 6 BB

Turn: (27.5 BB, 3 players) Q
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 13.4 BB, fold, Hero calls 13.4 BB

River: (54.3 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BTN bets 26.8 BB, Hero calls 26.8 BB
Spoiler:

BTN shows T 7 (Straight, Ten High)
(Pre 34%, Flop 95%, Turn 93%)
Hero mucks J 9 (Two Pair, Nines and Eights)
(Pre 66%, Flop 5%, Turn 7%)
BTN wins 107.2 BB


no idea what this means. double barrel is meh. can't be bad but maybe not optimal

iPoker - €4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

CO: 106.99 BB (VPIP: 32.46, PFR: 26.70, 3Bet Preflop: 14.86, Hands: 193)
BTN: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 28.18, PFR: 21.31, 3Bet Preflop: 11.16, Hands: 5,049)
SB: 109.8 BB (VPIP: 27.29, PFR: 18.08, 3Bet Preflop: 7.57, Hands: 4,186)
BB: 123.8 BB (VPIP: 28.21, PFR: 26.92, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 79)
UTG: 105.15 BB (VPIP: 53.33, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (MP): 102.88 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 9 J

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 3 9 3
Hero bets 5 BB, CO calls 5 BB

Turn: (17.5 BB, 2 players) 5
Hero bets 10 BB, CO calls 10 BB

River: (37.5 BB, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, CO bets 43.75 BB, fold

CO wins 80.25 BB
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01-23-2016 , 01:45 AM
let's do this!!!!!!
great start to the day, but he left unfortunately (I was lobby hunting)

iPoker - €10 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 111.1 BB (VPIP: 45.45, PFR: 18.18, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 11)
Hero (BB): 104.9 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

SB calls 0.5 BB, Hero raises to 4 BB, SB raises to 7 BB, Hero raises to 20 BB, SB raises to 111.1 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 84.9 BB

Flop: (209.8 BB, 2 players) 9 T 3

Turn: (209.8 BB, 2 players) 7

River: (209.8 BB, 2 players) Q

SB shows 9 K (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 28%, Flop 24%, Turn 11%)
Hero shows Q Q (Three of a Kind, Queens)
(Pre 72%, Flop 76%, Turn 89%)
SB wins 6.2 BB
Hero wins 209.7 BB
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01-23-2016 , 11:37 AM
zzzzz..... owning it up with the blue line again.
even when I feel like running good I run bad.


h1: not liking this one but it may be fine. fish jams pre. reg might fold JJ to my jam. maybe KK+ he 4-bets. QQ he could play this way... not happy shipping TT pre for 200bb, but it worked out, almost.

PokerStars - $6 Ante $1.20 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 101.6 BB (VPIP: 31.77, PFR: 21.44, 3Bet Preflop: 11.66, Hands: 531)
UTG: 239.61 BB (VPIP: 21.10, PFR: 13.68, 3Bet Preflop: 4.59, Hands: 2,988)
MP: 249.8 BB (VPIP: 24.95, PFR: 19.96, 3Bet Preflop: 9.71, Hands: 468)
CO: 86.52 BB (VPIP: 51.61, PFR: 32.26, 3Bet Preflop: 9.76, Hands: 94)
Hero (BTN): 207.66 BB
SB: 238.33 BB (VPIP: 26.42, PFR: 20.38, 3Bet Preflop: 11.06, Hands: 543)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB, 6 players post ante of 0.2 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 2.7 BB) Hero has T T

fold, MP raises to 2.25 BB, CO calls 2.25 BB, Hero raises to 11 BB, fold, fold, MP calls 8.75 BB, CO raises to 86.32 BB and is all-in, Hero raises to 207.46 BB and is all-in, fold

Flop: (186.34 BB, 2 players) 8 K J

Turn: (186.34 BB, 2 players) 3

River: (186.34 BB, 2 players) 9

Spoiler:
CO shows Q Q (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 82%, Flop 90%, Turn 95%)
Hero shows T T (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 10%, Turn 5%)
CO wins 185.88 BB


h2: reps narrow

iPoker - £4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 76.84 BB (VPIP: 44.12, PFR: 23.53, 3Bet Preflop: 11.76, Hands: 35)
SB: 50 BB (VPIP: 24.13, PFR: 18.56, 3Bet Preflop: 9.83, Hands: 446)
BB: 49.44 BB (VPIP: 30.29, PFR: 21.12, 3Bet Preflop: 7.86, Hands: 1,661)
Hero (UTG): 51.5 BB
MP: 70 BB (VPIP: 30.74, PFR: 21.50, 3Bet Preflop: 7.40, Hands: 3,190)
CO: 84.68 BB (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 21.57, 3Bet Preflop: 10.26, Hands: 264)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 6

Hero raises to 3 BB, MP calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 9 J K
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: (7.5 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 5 BB, MP calls 5 BB

River: (17.5 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero bets 13 BB, MP raises to 62 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 30.5 BB

Spoiler:
Hero mucks 6 6 (Three of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 53%, Flop 66%, Turn 84%)
MP shows A 8 (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 47%, Flop 34%, Turn 16%)
MP wins 122 BB


h3: regfish

PokerStars - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (UTG): 119.05 BB
MP: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.68, PFR: 18.93, 3Bet Preflop: 9.01, Hands: 3,190)
CO: 103.66 BB (VPIP: 30.36, PFR: 26.79, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 57)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.01, PFR: 19.61, 3Bet Preflop: 7.90, Hands: 2,450)
SB: 125.73 BB (VPIP: 30.46, PFR: 19.64, 3Bet Preflop: 10.08, Hands: 1,242)
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 27.22, PFR: 20.56, 3Bet Preflop: 11.63, Hands: 3,372)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has T A

Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, CO calls 3 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (7.5 BB, 2 players) T 9 2
Hero bets 5.01 BB, CO calls 5.01 BB

Turn: (17.53 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero bets 11.78 BB, CO calls 11.78 BB

River: (41.08 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO bets 31 BB, Hero calls 31 BB

Spoiler:
CO shows 7 8 (Straight, Ten High)
(Pre 39%, Flop 34%, Turn 100%)
Hero mucks T A (One Pair, Tens)
(Pre 61%, Flop 66%, Turn 0%)
CO wins 102.38 BB


h4: one of the rare hero calls.

PokerStars - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 118.8 BB (VPIP: 22.65, PFR: 16.22, 3Bet Preflop: 4.25, Hands: 796)
SB: 138.91 BB (VPIP: 26.51, PFR: 18.86, 3Bet Preflop: 8.84, Hands: 3,244)
Hero (BB): 100 BB
UTG: 127.61 BB (VPIP: 20.45, PFR: 13.40, 3Bet Preflop: 4.40, Hands: 2,697)
MP: 89.18 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 16.67, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 6)
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 22.83, PFR: 17.69, 3Bet Preflop: 6.95, Hands: 5,240)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A K

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 9 BB, CO calls 6.5 BB

Flop: (18.5 BB, 2 players) 7 7 6
Hero checks, CO bets 7.12 BB, Hero calls 7.12 BB

Turn: (32.74 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, CO checks

River: (32.74 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, CO bets 18.58 BB, Hero calls 18.58 BB

Spoiler:
CO shows T T (Straight, Ten High)
(Pre 56%, Flop 76%, Turn 86%)
Hero mucks A K (One Pair, Sevens)
(Pre 44%, Flop 24%, Turn 14%)
CO wins 69.21 BB


h5: prob could fold this riv, since it's a spot where we think "he's never folding Kx" but no idea if he is fish or reg

iPoker - €4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 4 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: 59.5 BB (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
Hero (BB): 136 BB
CO: 100 BB (VPIP: 37.14, PFR: 25.71, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 36)
BTN: 100 BB (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 20)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 3 K

fold, BTN raises to 2.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (5.5 BB, 2 players) 6 K 8
Hero checks, BTN bets 3.3 BB, Hero calls 3.3 BB

Turn: (12.1 BB, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, BTN bets 8.47 BB, Hero calls 8.47 BB

River: (29.04 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BTN bets 20.33 BB, Hero calls 20.33 BB

Spoiler:
Hero mucks 3 K (Two Pair, Kings and Sixes)
(Pre 33%, Flop 30%, Turn 0%)
BTN shows 6 6 (Four of a Kind, Sixes)
(Pre 67%, Flop 70%, Turn 100%)
BTN wins 68.7 BB


h6: turn mistake vs russian reggish guy (?)

PokerStars - $6 NL - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 98.5 BB (VPIP: 25.06, PFR: 20.23, 3Bet Preflop: 10.26, Hands: 442)
UTG: 154.77 BB (VPIP: 42.86, PFR: 21.43, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 14)
MP: 44.09 BB (VPIP: 32.63, PFR: 13.68, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 95)
CO: 171.03 BB (VPIP: 64.71, PFR: 2.94, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 35)
BTN: 102 BB (VPIP: 20.93, PFR: 15.30, 3Bet Preflop: 8.05, Hands: 1,414)
Hero (SB): 100 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q 6

fold, MP calls 1 BB, CO calls 1 BB, fold, Hero calls 0.5 BB, BB checks

Flop: (4 BB, 4 players) J J 8
Hero bets 2.67 BB, BB calls 2.67 BB, fold, CO calls 2.67 BB

Turn: (12.02 BB, 3 players) 2
Hero bets 8 BB, BB raises to 25.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 17.5 BB

River: (63.02 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BB checks

Spoiler:
Hero shows Q 6 (Flush, Queen High)
(Pre 66%, Flop 26%, Turn 0%)
BB shows J 2 (Full House, Jacks full of Eights)
(Pre 34%, Flop 74%, Turn 100%)
BB wins 62.55 BB
Keep it simple 2016, 400nl+, 6m/HU Quote
01-24-2016 , 04:43 AM
My point of view from what ive read and the HHs you post:

Youre worried cause youre destroying the redline and you think that its because youre overfolding, so then you start to make bad calls but the redline wont go up while the blue one starts to decay too. So its not about calls, its probably youre bluffing and valuebetting waaaay less than you should, which is due to a lack of confidence in your game.

On the other hand, your HUD reading skills, or the HUD itself, are probably very poor and you just play the hands as you feel them and not as you should play them.

Dont take it bad, just trying to help cause i read the blog and feel like you need it
Keep it simple 2016, 400nl+, 6m/HU Quote
01-24-2016 , 05:42 AM
^^ All fair points.
Those hands I posted were all weird spots. I called because I thought I could be good. Then I made few crazy looking folds with TP because I thought I was beaten (by a close margin).
I don't call just for the sake of it, but maybe I call a little bit more on lower limits if I'm unsure.
I have a very detailed HUD and I'm guilty of just staring at HUD sometimes, so that's not an issue.
When it comes to bluffing it's important to understand that one may bluff all the big pots, but then skip bluffing 10 small pots. All that affects certain frequencies and the red line too.

I went completely mental at the end of this session. Just flipped out and quit quickly.
Results not as bad as I thought, ended breakeven. All hard work was destroyed within few hands, but that's poker as Doyle says.
I played HU match vs passive rec and outplayed him, before table filled up. Haven't had a positive red line in a long time (both 6m & HU) and high WWSF so maybe that's a good sign. I ran well in lower limits but losses stacked up from higher limits.

vs fish

iPoker - £10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 107.13 BB (VPIP: 27.36, PFR: 20.27, 3Bet Preflop: 10.03, Hands: 2,819)
CO: 152.16 BB (VPIP: 34.78, PFR: 21.74, 3Bet Preflop: 9.09, Hands: 48)
Hero (BTN): 128.38 BB
SB: 224.88 BB (VPIP: 28.95, PFR: 22.93, 3Bet Preflop: 5.83, Hands: 268)
BB: 184.95 BB (VPIP: 28.28, PFR: 21.42, 3Bet Preflop: 9.36, Hands: 1,618)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 4 4

fold, CO raises to 2.5 BB, Hero calls 2.5 BB, fold, BB calls 1.5 BB

Flop: (8 BB, 3 players) 2 4 3
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets 6 BB, fold, CO calls 6 BB

Turn: (20 BB, 2 players) K
CO checks, Hero bets 14 BB, CO calls 14 BB

River: (48 BB, 2 players) 8
CO bets 66 BB, Hero calls 66 BB

Spoiler:
CO shows 5 A (Straight, Five High)
(Pre 48%, Flop 65%, Turn 77%)
Hero mucks 4 4 (Three of a Kind, Fours)
(Pre 52%, Flop 35%, Turn 23%)
CO wins 179.6 BB


Without going in-depth, I think call is good here.

PokerStars - $10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

MP: 98.91 BB (VPIP: 58.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 12)
CO: 107.52 BB (VPIP: 26.09, PFR: 16.21, 3Bet Preflop: 11.43, Hands: 258)
BTN: 145.46 BB (VPIP: 27.48, PFR: 19.85, 3Bet Preflop: 4.17, Hands: 133)
Hero (SB): 255.45 BB
BB: 134.83 BB (VPIP: 32.65, PFR: 23.47, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 103)
UTG: 186.66 BB (VPIP: 26.32, PFR: 16.82, 3Bet Preflop: 9.47, Hands: 653)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, CO raises to 2.72 BB, BTN calls 2.72 BB, Hero raises to 13 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 10.28 BB

Flop: (29.72 BB, 2 players) J 9 3
Hero bets 12.36 BB, BTN calls 12.36 BB

Turn: (54.43 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero bets 29 BB, BTN calls 29 BB

River: (112.43 BB, 2 players) A
Hero checks, BTN bets 91.1 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 91.1 BB

what ever this means.
Live to learn... sometimes pay the price. we have no history and I haven't seen this reg play much.

PokerStars - $10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 170.94 BB (VPIP: 32.69, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 15.00, Hands: 54)
SB: 137.44 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 24.24, 3Bet Preflop: 3.45, Hands: 68)
BB: 113.35 BB (VPIP: 27.10, PFR: 14.84, 3Bet Preflop: 10.17, Hands: 157)
UTG: 65.37 BB (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 31)
Hero (MP): 105.16 BB
CO: 93.84 BB (VPIP: 26.16, PFR: 16.28, 3Bet Preflop: 7.37, Hands: 523)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q Q

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, fold, fold, fold, BB calls 2 BB

Flop: (6.5 BB, 2 players) 5 8 T
BB checks, Hero bets 4.35 BB, BB raises to 13 BB, Hero calls 8.66 BB

Turn: (32.5 BB, 2 players) T
BB checks, Hero bets 20 BB, BB raises to 41 BB, fold

BB wins 72.2 BB

super tilty spot vs fish

PokerStars - $4 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

UTG: 100 BB (VPIP: 26.19, PFR: 18.45, 3Bet Preflop: 9.93, Hands: 690)
MP: 89.02 BB (VPIP: 45.83, PFR: 20.83, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 24)
CO: 158.66 BB (VPIP: 26.86, PFR: 20.29, 3Bet Preflop: 11.40, Hands: 3,528)
BTN: 200.39 BB (VPIP: 22.57, PFR: 17.95, 3Bet Preflop: 5.52, Hands: 1,107)
Hero (SB): 116.02 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 21.01, PFR: 16.22, 3Bet Preflop: 8.25, Hands: 1,591)

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J A

fold, MP raises to 2 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 8 BB, fold, MP calls 6 BB

Flop: (17 BB, 2 players) 9 T A
Hero bets 11.41 BB, MP calls 11.41 BB

Turn: (39.82 BB, 2 players) J
Hero bets 28 BB, MP calls 28 BB

River: (95.82 BB, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, MP bets 41.61 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 41.61 BB

Spoiler:
MP shows 8 9 (Three of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 37%, Flop 20%, Turn 23%)
Hero shows J A (Two Pair, Aces and Jacks)
(Pre 63%, Flop 80%, Turn 77%)
MP wins 178.35 BB


frustrating spot w JJ.... very close regardless. his main bluff hands have SDV so not sure if we're good here.

iPoker - €6 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 3 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 66.67, PFR: 66.67, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 3)
BTN: 135.67 BB (VPIP: 27.42, PFR: 20.31, 3Bet Preflop: 10.06, Hands: 2,841)
Hero (SB): 111.13 BB

Hero posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has J J

fold, Hero raises to 3 BB, BB raises to 10 BB, Hero raises to 22 BB, BB calls 12 BB

Flop: (44 BB, 2 players) 9 T K
Hero checks, BB checks

Turn: (44 BB, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, BB bets 17.6 BB, fold

BB wins 60.93 BB

Last edited by Fishtankz; 01-24-2016 at 05:47 AM.
Keep it simple 2016, 400nl+, 6m/HU Quote
01-24-2016 , 09:20 AM
you need to realise that you are a regfish and will go broke if you keep playing >nl400.
Keep it simple 2016, 400nl+, 6m/HU Quote
01-24-2016 , 11:07 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtankz
Those hands I posted were all weird spots. I called because I thought I could be good. Then I made few crazy looking folds with TP because I thought I was beaten (by a close margin).
Ok you "thought" you were doing the right move. Is that enough? Of course not, because your thinking can be right as it can be wrong. You post a lot of HHs but still havent seen any really analysis based on stats and not on feelings.

Anyway i dont mean to tell you how to play, just have been reading your blog and felt you were hitting against the wall over and over, so just left my opinion trying to help.

Keep improving and GL.
Keep it simple 2016, 400nl+, 6m/HU Quote
01-24-2016 , 01:34 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiei20
Ok you "thought" you were doing the right move. Is that enough? Of course not, because your thinking can be right as it can be wrong. You post a lot of HHs but still havent seen any really analysis based on stats and not on feelings.

Anyway i dont mean to tell you how to play, just have been reading your blog and felt you were hitting against the wall over and over, so just left my opinion trying to help.

Keep improving and GL.
River spots are all math. You have to figure out if villain is bluffing enough. I've spent hours doing this so I claim that my intuition is strong. That's one reason why I dumb down my thought process, saying "he could be wide" etc.
Stats are an exploitative read for me, but big enough sample is required. I don't focus so much on stats these days. It's more about the board texture (the situation) + the type of villain (personality) I'm playing against. Then you apply villains personality to the situation.
It's not always that simple though. Some spots may look good in theory, but there's practical reasons why you should fold. Like maybe the QQ hand I posted.
A lot of my readers are advanced players, so we don't need to discuss theory that much, it's more about practical adjustments.
I hope that answers.

Quote:
Originally Posted by chardy
you need to realise that you are a regfish and will go broke if you keep playing >nl400.
We'll see who's the regfish once I start winning again
You have no idea how frustrating it is to run bad for 3 weeks while knowing you are +EV in the games. I have done a ton of reviewing and it's not like I'm tilting off stacks either. I regret playing HU as much as I did, but you learn from your mistakes. Other than that there's not much I would do differently.
There's a saying like "if you apply a drop of poison into pure water, the whole fluid becomes poisonous". It's not true in poker. One or two leaks doesn't ruin your entire game.
There can be 8/10 things working for us. Then in some months we run so bad, that we would need 10/10 things to work for us in order to win.
There's also a saying "What doesn't kill you makes you stronger". I'm working on my leaks. I hope the end result of this downswing is good. I have learned a lot during this period.
that's w/e rant. After all of this I'm still having a positive attitude.
and FWIW I base being +EV in the games based on the fact that I play a lot vs fish. Not claiming to be +EV vs regs at Stars 1k or anything like that.

Last edited by Fishtankz; 01-24-2016 at 01:43 PM.
Keep it simple 2016, 400nl+, 6m/HU Quote
01-24-2016 , 02:34 PM
Todays results. Very close to making profit.
I have a lot of work to do next week. 2 bonuses on MPN worth 1500€ rake. Then rake as much as possible on iPoker. Will have to set up alarm clocks. I also have clear strategic goals what to work on, which feels great. Finally unveiling some old persistent leaks.
Down quite a bit but not letting it bother. Full steam ahead, but obv keeping an eye on game selection.

HU match vs the passive rec at 600nl. It's nice when the guy believes in folding
Keep it simple 2016, 400nl+, 6m/HU Quote
01-24-2016 , 02:41 PM
folding's boring.
Keep it simple 2016, 400nl+, 6m/HU Quote
01-24-2016 , 02:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by shipit2kg
Don't wanna be a negative nancy, but I would focus on a lot more 200 and a lot less 1k if I were you.

A lot of these hh's are a reflection of a lack of game plan/range understandings. Not saying your not good (idk), but I'd refine some things before you play 600+ again. That being said, I start tables all day at 200/400 on your site if u wanna help a brother out, pm for skype.

GL man.

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Also hate to be a negative nancy, but this is spot on. Also, consider at least taking a few classes part-time. At 22, you should have plenty of time to mange both. Dropping out of school entirely is a big mistake imo.
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