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01-05-2016 , 01:07 PM
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Originally Posted by doctor877
You really don't plan on making this poker a long time thing, do you? That's just very naive IMO.
No, I would say 2-3 years, trying to make as much money as possible. Evaluate every year.
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01-05-2016 , 01:20 PM
subbed - GL in 2016, positive thinking is the way forward for sure. Just hope i do (don't ) bump into you on MG sometime on the future
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01-05-2016 , 01:24 PM
Subbed GL boss
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01-05-2016 , 02:23 PM
gl
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01-05-2016 , 03:36 PM
glgl
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01-05-2016 , 04:24 PM
nice thread gl

Quote:
Originally Posted by Fishtankz
This was the KJ hand from yesterday. I suppose it's good, don't know if it's the most +EV, but I think he can bet that sizing w/ weaker Jx. Don't know if shoving is an overplay but I think it's +EV still.

iPoker - €6 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

SB: €1,657.00 (VPIP: 74.45, PFR: 51.82, 3Bet Preflop: 17.91, Hands: 141)
Hero (BB): €646.00

SB posts SB €3.00, Hero posts BB €6.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €9.00) Hero has K J

SB raises to €15.00, Hero raises to €48.00, SB calls €33.00

Flop: (€96.00, 2 players) 9 6 J
Hero bets €60.00, SB calls €60.00

Turn: (€216.00, 2 players) 2
Hero checks, SB bets €90.00, Hero raises to €538.00 and is all-in, SB calls €448.00

River: (€1,292.00, 2 players) 7

Spoiler:
SB shows J A (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 74%, Flop 87%, Turn 93%)
Hero mucks K J (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 26%, Flop 13%, Turn 7%)
SB wins €1,291.00

I actually think this hand is bad in a few places. Pre is just a flat (although I see a lot of players 3betting all of their offsuit broadway combos and I don't really understand why). Also it's worth considering a xc on this flop as we have a range disadvantage (betting obviously fine though). If you are going to 3b KJo pre then I suppose the combos with the Kc make a better xc since they can comfortably xc all the club turns. Don't know really what to make of the turn play, I think it's clearly a bet. The overbet jam doesn't really accomplish much IMO.
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01-05-2016 , 05:02 PM
Pre w-e. Flop xc or bet w-e. Turn obj prob default, xj good, bet small ok, xc ok. Hard to make huge mistake there.
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01-05-2016 , 06:18 PM
Also think its ok.
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01-06-2016 , 12:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Fishtankz
UTG was the fish of the table. He was open limping a lot which is a good sign for 2k games. He left soon afterwards though.
I don't check my results during session. Even though results were bad in that session I managed to hit peak-state, and that's a good time to shot higher.


I'm 22.
I was studying telecommunications. The financial success of poker came out of nowhere. I've been thinking about what money means to me, what are my long-term goals and so on. Most 22-year olds are either studying or then they work at trainee jobs. A lot of people have a dream of making it big financially.
Having achieved that dream, it makes you think again what you want to do for living and so on
Great thing about poker is that it makes you realize just how capable you are once you put your focus into something.
There can be so many setbacks in other areas of life which prevent you from succeeding.
Think it's becoming clear that if I keep making money at this pace, the value of the degree goes down. You would have to start all over again basically, climbing the corporate ladder and putting in the hours there. In tech fields there's also this "Keeping up the skills" which bothers me.
Then there's this whole economic recession, youth unemployment and so on... I'm just happy with playing poker, it's both challenging and rewarding.
But I haven't taken any action yet towards quitting the degree since I live in student apartment. Currently taking a year off.


Obviously can't go very in-detail but there will be some #strat every now and then.
Hi
positive attitude is the way to go for sure, but bolded part seems naive from someone who had 2 good months and recently (?) broke into +0.5/1. Would suggest to finish your degree. And for putting focus in to something...many of us are just lucky to find something (poker) with rewards so high compared to work/study required
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01-06-2016 , 07:41 PM
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01-07-2016 , 10:40 AM
400nl here we come, right back where we started from.
Not even mad, **** happens.

Biggest losing pots:

Snap call

Microgaming - €10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (CO): €2,430.75
BTN: €1,116.00 (VPIP: 24.11, PFR: 18.65, 3Bet Preflop: 9.23, Hands: 797)
SB: €1,467.97 (VPIP: 49.88, PFR: 26.67, 3Bet Preflop: 11.80, Hands: 852)
BB: €1,566.00 (VPIP: 35.99, PFR: 25.99, 3Bet Preflop: 9.46, Hands: 1,456)
UTG: €1,355.00 (VPIP: 26.48, PFR: 19.76, 3Bet Preflop: 13.46, Hands: 261)
MP: €6,436.25 (VPIP: 34.68, PFR: 23.89, 3Bet Preflop: 10.58, Hands: 2,763)

SB posts SB €5.00, BB posts BB €10.00, SB contributes €0.02 to the Bad Beat Jackpot

Pre Flop: (pot: €15.00) Hero has A 8

fold, MP raises to €30.00, Hero calls €30.00, BTN raises to €100.00, SB calls €95.00, fold, MP calls €70.00, Hero calls €70.00

Flop: (€410.00, 4 players) 6 2 7
SB bets €360.00, MP calls €360.00, Hero calls €360.00, fold

Turn: (€1,490.00, 3 players) 6
SB checks, MP checks, Hero bets €1,065.00, fold, MP raises to €2,130.00, Hero calls €905.75 and is all-in

River: (€5,431.50, 2 players) Q

Spoiler:
Hero shows A 8 (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 50%, Flop 27%, Turn 0%)
MP shows 2 2 (Full House, Twos full of Sixes)
(Pre 50%, Flop 73%, Turn 100%)
MP wins €5,428.50


Hand starts with a PF poster, so UTG could be a bit wider than usual.
Sqz is meh, same with calling 4b, I'd fold vs most but this is very loose reg. Flop is MEHHHH

Microgaming - €10 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BB): €2,179.48
UTG: €1,732.00 (VPIP: 37.92, PFR: 27.95, 3Bet Preflop: 10.82, Hands: 1,000)
CO: €1,000.00 (VPIP: 60.42, PFR: 35.07, 3Bet Preflop: 16.81, Hands: 293)
BTN: €1,057.00 (VPIP: 35.63, PFR: 24.71, 3Bet Preflop: 16.25, Hands: 179)
SB: €1,117.00 (VPIP: 37.14, PFR: 26.75, 3Bet Preflop: 12.88, Hands: 2,012)

SB posts SB €5.00, Hero posts BB €10.00, CO posts penalty blind €15.00, CO contributes €0.02 to the Bad Beat Jackpot

Pre Flop: (pot: €30.00) Hero has Q A

UTG raises to €45.00, CO calls €35.00, fold, SB calls €40.00, Hero raises to €190.00, UTG raises to €425.00, fold, fold, Hero calls €235.00

Flop: (€945.00, 2 players) T Q 6
Hero checks, UTG bets €320.00, Hero raises to €1,754.48 and is all-in, UTG calls €987.00 and is all-in

Turn: (€3,559.00, 2 players) 8

River: (€3,559.00, 2 players) 8
Spoiler:

Hero shows Q A (Two Pair, Queens and Eights)
(Pre 43%, Flop 3%, Turn 0%)
UTG shows T T (Full House, Tens full of Eights)
(Pre 57%, Flop 97%, Turn 100%)
UTG wins €3,556.00


No comment...

Microgaming - €6 NL (6 max) - Holdem - 5 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: €744.00 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 33.33, Hands: 10)
SB: €639.00 (VPIP: 34.78, PFR: 24.64, 3Bet Preflop: 16.13, Hands: 71)
BB: €606.00 (VPIP: 25.93, PFR: 20.37, 3Bet Preflop: 12.68, Hands: 500)
UTG: €915.90 (VPIP: 36.00, PFR: 25.74, 3Bet Preflop: 12.28, Hands: 2,286)
Hero (CO): €943.20

SB posts SB €3.00, BB posts BB €6.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €9.00) Hero has 7 7

UTG raises to €18.00, Hero calls €18.00, BTN raises to €75.00, fold, fold, UTG calls €57.00, Hero calls €57.00

Flop: (€234.00, 3 players) 9 8 7
UTG bets €117.00, Hero raises to €868.20 and is all-in, fold, UTG calls €723.90 and is all-in

Turn: (€1,915.80, 2 players) A

River: (€1,915.80, 2 players) 3

Spoiler:
UTG shows 9 9 (Three of a Kind, Nines)
(Pre 82%, Flop 93%, Turn 98%)
Hero shows 7 7 (Three of a Kind, Sevens)
(Pre 18%, Flop 7%, Turn 2%)
UTG wins €1,912.80
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01-07-2016 , 10:58 AM
Rough day. Make sure you take the time to do a thorough session review if you haven't already of course.

Good job with keeping good mind set!
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01-07-2016 , 11:13 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Brokenstars
Rough day. Make sure you take the time to do a thorough session review if you haven't already of course.

Good job with keeping good mind set!
I ran really badly vs regs. Also shipped TT twice vs fish (for 50-70bb), both failed.
I also bluff catched loosely vs fish in reasonable spots, but fish showed up with the nuts this time. Games were very good all day so I ended up playing nearly 8 hours in a row.
But yeah definitely gotta review all losing hands.
I don't think I made huge mistakes. Just those 3 hands I posted make up 2/3 of my losses.
I've had big losing days before but I don't feel nearly as bad, if not at all.
The AQ hand just really bothers me, 77 is played semi-poorly but it's reasonable given the board. I wouldn't do much differently. That's confidence
Quote:
Originally Posted by woolly
I actually think this hand is bad in a few places. Pre is just a flat (although I see a lot of players 3betting all of their offsuit broadway combos and I don't really understand why). Also it's worth considering a xc on this flop as we have a range disadvantage (betting obviously fine though). If you are going to 3b KJo pre then I suppose the combos with the Kc make a better xc since they can comfortably xc all the club turns. Don't know really what to make of the turn play, I think it's clearly a bet. The overbet jam doesn't really accomplish much IMO.
Quote:
Originally Posted by doctor877
Pre w-e. Flop xc or bet w-e. Turn obj prob default, xj good, bet small ok, xc ok. Hard to make huge mistake there.
Cheers for the feedback. I think the overbet jam might have been the biggest mistake. Just by logically thinking what does the jam accomplish and vs what hands?
imo. KJo is good enough to 3-bet vs both low and high FT3B %.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ruslanas
Hi
positive attitude is the way to go for sure, but bolded part seems naive from someone who had 2 good months and recently (?) broke into +0.5/1. Would suggest to finish your degree. And for putting focus in to something...many of us are just lucky to find something (poker) with rewards so high compared to work/study required
The entire 2015 was great. I was doing well already as a bumhunter, even better when I started working on my game. I'm confident that there's more 10k months coming.

Monthly update. Some work to do for the 10k. gladly there's some RB.
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01-08-2016 , 05:02 PM
Felt quite miserable after the yesterdays losses. Decided to have a day off to recover my mindset.
Just played a small HU match and actually won a bit.
Need to re-consider my goals after the big losing day. I have a small inner degen that wants to succeed at HU and take shots at higher stakes, no matter at what cost.
Then there's the rational side that wants to take action at any +EV game up to 1k, which is fine since I'm rolled for it. It's risky though.
Then there's the "Play it safe"-me, who wants to grind 400nl for a while. And that's completely against the inner degen who wants action!

I was on the ride, everything was going my way until that -7k day. It was a huge setback. It didn't ruin me financially, but I like to take shots and risks when I'm doing very well. Being breakeven/losing is not a good time for high risk games.
So either now continue like nothing happened, or be responsible, play 400nl until I have some momentum going again.

This is a mindset concept I'm working on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_gratification
Basically I'm trying to resist the inner degen and talk myself into taking a safer route. It's tough though, but not like there isn't enough money to be made at 200-400.

One hand from the HU match.
Could have bluffed the river here, but he had shown to be call happy in some spots (he saw me bluff wide). Turn is also a bit iffy, there's a lot of RIO but our equity looks good in paper. Nit poker wins again
It might be a must bluff, but what's the exploitative play given the history? My bluffs have had the worst success rate in HU and not that I bluff so much

iPoker - €6 NL (2 max) - Holdem - 2 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (SB): €612.00
BB: €817.30 (VPIP: 80.39, PFR: 54.90, 3Bet Preflop: 16.67, Hands: 53)

Hero posts SB €3.00, BB posts BB €6.00

Pre Flop: (pot: €9.00) Hero has J 9

Hero raises to €15.00, BB calls €9.00

Flop: (€30.00, 2 players) 8 6 Q
BB checks, Hero bets €20.00, BB raises to €66.00, Hero calls €46.00

Turn: (€162.00, 2 players) 5
BB bets €108.00, Hero calls €108.00

River: (€378.00, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero checks

Spoiler:
Hero shows J 9 (One Pair, Sixes)
(Pre 60%, Flop 78%, Turn 89%)
BB shows T 7 (One Pair, Sixes)
(Pre 40%, Flop 22%, Turn 11%)
Hero wins €377.00
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01-08-2016 , 06:18 PM
wtf is this rakeback

Last edited by valee; 01-08-2016 at 06:18 PM. Reason: nvm thats a showdown line
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01-08-2016 , 07:29 PM
Not bluffing either turn or river there seems bad without really significant reads.
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01-08-2016 , 07:32 PM
surely that hand is the very bottom of your range OTR. just has to be a jam.
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01-08-2016 , 08:06 PM
was thinking same thing before seeing last 2 posts
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01-08-2016 , 08:12 PM
My advice would be to put a lot more volume in at 200 and 400 before playing these games again. Just for mindset it's good to get a big winning sample at these limits behind you so you don't doubt yourself moving up.
I'd also pretty strongly disagree with that gordon video on the last page about mindset vs ability. The standard of reg at 600+ on stars compared to 200 is just absurdly higher, mindset is obviously important but no matter how good your mindset is, it's going to be hard to make up the EV you lose by having a less refined game plan.
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01-08-2016 , 09:33 PM
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The standard of reg at 600+ on stars compared to 200 is just absurdly higher
Seems to be pretty much the same bumhunters that play 200-600 that the games are usually filled up with at 600, filled with some good mid-highstakes regs. Yeah maybe it isn't your average 200 reg plays there. Dunno, have only small experience of the games where I have not been the mark at 600 lol.



To fishtankz, don't want to be harsh, but unless you have gotten a lot better from the ipoker days (which you seem to have done) I wouldn't suggest playing 600-1k until you have proper sample of lower part of midstakes. Especially as you seem to have some mindset problems attached to having losing days. Then again jumping in to higher limits with 1 proper fish can't be that bad even if one were to be at disadvantage against the regs there, as long as the losing more $$ isn't going to affect your normal grind. 200-400 is still good money, and it's not like there are just plenty of 600-1k tables filled with fish all the time laying around.

Last edited by doctor877; 01-08-2016 at 09:40 PM.
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01-09-2016 , 05:26 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by doctor877
Seems to be pretty much the same bumhunters that play 200-600 that the games are usually filled up with at 600, filled with some good mid-highstakes regs. Yeah maybe it isn't your average 200 reg plays there. Dunno, have only small experience of the games where I have not been the mark at 600 lol.



To fishtankz, don't want to be harsh, but unless you have gotten a lot better from the ipoker days (which you seem to have done) I wouldn't suggest playing 600-1k until you have proper sample of lower part of midstakes. Especially as you seem to have some mindset problems attached to having losing days. Then again jumping in to higher limits with 1 proper fish can't be that bad even if one were to be at disadvantage against the regs there, as long as the losing more $$ isn't going to affect your normal grind. 200-400 is still good money, and it's not like there are just plenty of 600-1k tables filled with fish all the time laying around.
Nope. 600>>>>>200. tbh 200 to 400 historically was always the big jump in skill level at stars, with scripts there are a lot of the same people, the difference with 600 is very large now though, more due to the type of players that start games there (analog, KTclubs, D7o, katallo, kalben, tenuss etc etc) lots of these guys are playing anywhere from 2-5 handed with each other so there are generally a lot less seats for the bumhunters at 600 than say 400 (where there are very few players that still play reg only tables 2-5 handed). Nowadays 600+ is the big step up in terms of 6m.
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01-09-2016 , 05:42 AM
Back in business. Some of my best customers were playing so I couldn't resist playing higher.
It was my turn to hit the nuts every hand.
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01-09-2016 , 06:19 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by valee
wtf is this rakeback
Yeah flat showdown line may look like RB. Very important to pay attention to the blue line when you suspect you run bad. That's the story of my HU results, I have the worst blue line ever while I don't play crazy (the 3-barrel bluff style).
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Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
Not bluffing either turn or river there seems bad without really significant reads.
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Originally Posted by Big_Mick00
was thinking same thing before seeing last 2 posts
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Originally Posted by woolly
surely that hand is the very bottom of your range OTR. just has to be a jam.
I agree. Vs good reg if we don't bluff this we're never bluffing this spot.
Now I suspected there was something weird in the hand, not as simple as it may seem.
I think it's possible villain plays weak flushes like this.
I'm not sure which bluffs he folds OTR (which bluffs should he jam?). We could fold out JT Ad7x something like that. T9 T7 we beat. vs J9 we chop but it's still +EV to check.
If he jams a weak flush, I'm not sure if he will get called by worse often enough. My best bluff catchers are like AdQx AdAx. It's a spot where I don't have an obvious bluff catcher.
Now thinking of which hands we can fold out. VS a station I'm never trying to make him fold a big hand. Q6/86 both made a boat. Q8 might still call. I could try to make him fold 97s or 74s straight.
It's also tricky if we think about our range. With sets and good 2p we might wanna re-raise flop. Same with jamming turn with best flushes. If we had a weak flush, do we really wanna jam once the board pairs? Vs a station yes though.
so tldr; we beat some of his bluffs he gives up with. his range is not capped. gotta check this spot using some programs. T9 I'd snap jam, JT is the best checking hand, J9 is the closest.
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01-09-2016 , 06:23 AM
Subbed. Gl op.

Your approach to shot taking in general seems pretty irresponsible. Especially considering the effect that a losing day appears to have on you. If you're going to be playing 2k 6m/HU regularly then those 7k rolling swings are going to happen pretty often.

You're pretty young at 22. So aggressive shot taking might be the most +EV approach for you at this point. But definitely consider how much the; a) financial implications of going broke (probably pretty low tbh) and b) the opportunity cost of not being able to play in really +EV spots at high limits as and when they appear; will mean to you.

Just my 2c. Right now you seem to be looking for any opportunity to play as high as you can afford. Which is pretty common coming off the back of some big winning months.
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