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10-05-2013 , 02:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Can I ask, is most of this theory things you've learned as you've played by simply being an intelligent/curious person?

Or were there standout books/websites where you read some "aha" theory?

Or 2+2?

So like if you had to weight it as an example:

50% trial by fire (experience)
20% books/training sites
30% 2+2

I tell you everytime you post some "basic" theory it truly sets a lightbulb off in my head.
In addition to my answer earlier, I also post stuff to stay sharp. For example yes I am being generous/paying it back with that post, but I'm also reading random threads and responding to them as a routine to help myself.

For example I just posted in a PLO thread where a guy is holding AKKQ on A77r in a 4-way pot. I replied with some basic math on how often someone will have a 7 here assuming they have random starting hands (which in this scenario seems reasonable- A22r would be different). So yea you guys can click the spoiler to see the math/answer, but it's good to solve for yourself every once in awhile to stay sharp because this is actually an extremely common scenario.

Spoiler:
12 cards out of 45 unknown, 2 of which are 7's. So there's a bunch of ways to do it but the easiest way to calculate it for me is chances that the first card isn't a 7 is 43/45, second card isn't a 7 is 42/44, etc. So chances no one has a 7 is 43/45 * 42/44 * 41/43 ... * 33/35 * 32/34 = 32 * 33 / 44 / 45 = 53% that someone doesn't have a 7, so it's 1.00 - .53 = 47% chance that someone does have a 7. In practice, saying "half the time" is OK.


Now in the particular thread I posted in, given that someone chose to lead into 3 people, chances the guy bet with 7xxx+ probably go up to over 90% so the math I just did is actually not that relevant.

However, it's obviously very important to know when you're deciding whether to bluff this board into 3 people, so I guess that's kind of what I meant earlier when I said I get more out of 2+2 than others. Someone else might read the OP in that thread and be like "lol fold flop", which would be, well, basically correct, but then you would ask that same person how often someone has 7xxx on that board and they have absolutely no clue. Then I would also ask them how much equity AKKQ with 1 backdoor flush draw has vs. a range of 7xxx, and they also have absolutely no clue other than "bad". Answer in spoiler, but it's good to get in the habit of checking these things yourself- will literally take 20 seconds:

Spoiler:
ProPokerTools Omaha Hi Simulation
600,000 trials (Randomized)
board: A77
Hand Pot equity Wins Ties
AhKhKdQc17.74% 106,353197
782.26% 493,450197


So actually if you asked me either of these questions yesterday: 1) chances someone has 7xxx on an A77r flop 4-ways, and 2) your equity with AKKQss vs 7xxx... I would give you a decent guess (better than most players because I do this kind of analysis fairly routinely), but I wouldn't know exactly. If you ask me a week from now, I will know exactly the answer to both questions.

But hey, chances are no one will ask me that question. But it just might come up when I'm playing poker and I'll make more $$$ than I would have if I hadn't just made this very post you're reading.

Last edited by Aesah; 10-05-2013 at 03:15 PM.
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10-06-2013 , 03:20 AM
bahh annoying i keep losing at hard rock's 5/10/25 game

down $4802 in 5 hours

lost with AAJ3ds AIPF to AA74ss, then got limp/raised and lost to TT98ds with AA76ss, sigh

Florida total: $3,452, 211 hours.
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10-06-2013 , 04:06 AM
I know you use the PPT website a lot but do you have the desktop app? It's pretty awesome for just $89. There's a 7 day free trial and if you don't restart your computer you can keep running it until you do restart (although I bought it after a month of that).
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10-06-2013 , 10:17 PM
this ~200 hour breakeven stretch/15k downswing sucks

i think i'm gonna take a short break from poker again
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10-06-2013 , 10:28 PM
Watching Eurorounders right now. It's pretty good...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBlBi...AB8h2tILYX10_g
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10-06-2013 , 10:47 PM
I wonder how much location factors in to your stretch?

Come back to LA bro.
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10-07-2013 , 03:00 AM
I'd ask the locals if the limits offered change in November/December after all the snowbirds (rich retirees) head back to FL. I heard that they do - stakes get bigger and games get way softer.
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10-07-2013 , 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by BradleyT
I'd ask the locals if the limits offered change in November/December after all the snowbirds (rich retirees) head back to FL. I heard that they do - stakes get bigger and games get way softer.
I wouldn't say this is a factor as much in Tampa as it would be in say South Florida. What I mean is Tampa has a local retiree population and snowbirds aren't 1) going to Tampa and 2) if they do aren't going to the Hard Rock. It's not like the SF rooms that are right next to beaches/shopping/city life.

I will say though that the games should see an influx after football season as a lot of the rec. crowd goes into hibernation this time of year.
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10-07-2013 , 05:22 PM
That's probably a very good point. The guy that told our PLO table that was from Miami.
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10-08-2013 , 12:28 AM
The good big games in south florida casinos are all private.
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10-08-2013 , 12:44 AM
**** south florida games
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10-08-2013 , 01:01 AM
I was shocked you went down there. Florida doesn't really seem like your scene.
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10-08-2013 , 11:46 AM
I must say overall I am not impressed with florida games either. I play in south florida and they are a joke. The juicy bigger games you would like to play in are all private so good luck with game selection.
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10-09-2013 , 04:07 AM
YEA DIAMOND IN LEAGUE OF LEGENDS SOLO Q
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10-10-2013 , 12:49 AM
Played a 1 hour session today, up $520.

Played 1 hand tricky... I thought I was trapping him pre/flop/turn but really he was trapping me!

Villain raises to $20 from CO, hero calls on BTN with AKQ2, SB calls.

Flop A92, pot $65
Villain bets $50, I call.

Turn K, pot $165
Check/check.

River 5, pot $165
Villain checks, I bet $100, villain just calls (??) with AAxx.

Florida total: $3,972, 212 hours.
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10-10-2013 , 12:55 AM
You still gonna work your way up the east coast after florida? New casino in maryland has some nice 5/5 plo and higher at times.
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10-10-2013 , 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by AllinPoker
The good big games in south florida casinos are all private.
That just amazes me that there can be a private game at a casino. Someone must be greasing the floor big time. And for that matter, the gaming commission.
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10-10-2013 , 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Tim Brice
That just amazes me that there can be a private game at a casino. Someone must be greasing the floor big time. And for that matter, the gaming commission.
The best reason I can come up with is before they had the laws down here with 100 max buyin. Everyone back then was playing in home games and I believe that the only way the casinos could get those games out of the homes and into the casinos was by allowing them to be private.

I eventually was able to get into one private game a few weeks ago and the coordinator of it said something along the lines of they have been playing for about 8 years or more.

Its the best guess I can come up with as to why the casinos would allow such a thing.
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10-10-2013 , 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
YEA DIAMOND IN LEAGUE OF LEGENDS SOLO Q
Needs more lolol

Read this thread maybe a month ago or so, glad to see you're still chugging along.

GLHF in the future!!
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10-10-2013 , 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Aesah
In addition to my answer earlier, I also post stuff to stay sharp. For example yes I am being generous/paying it back with that post, but I'm also reading random threads and responding to them as a routine to help myself.

For example I just posted in a PLO thread where a guy is holding AKKQ on A77r in a 4-way pot. I replied with some basic math on how often someone will have a 7 here assuming they have random starting hands (which in this scenario seems reasonable- A22r would be different). So yea you guys can click the spoiler to see the math/answer, but it's good to solve for yourself every once in awhile to stay sharp because this is actually an extremely common scenario.

Spoiler:
12 cards out of 45 unknown, 2 of which are 7's. So there's a bunch of ways to do it but the easiest way to calculate it for me is chances that the first card isn't a 7 is 43/45, second card isn't a 7 is 42/44, etc. So chances no one has a 7 is 43/45 * 42/44 * 41/43 ... * 33/35 * 32/34 = 32 * 33 / 44 / 45 = 53% that someone doesn't have a 7, so it's 1.00 - .53 = 47% chance that someone does have a 7. In practice, saying "half the time" is OK.

Question on this math. I did it this way.

45 cards left in deck. 2 are 7s. The odds that any random card is a 7 is 2/45, or 1/22.5 (yeah yeah, thats an improper number, but the math is easierish). So wouldn't you multiply that number by 12 (the 12 random cards of the opponent) to get 12/22.5, or a 53% chance that someone does have a 7, instead of 47%?
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10-10-2013 , 07:18 PM
no because the probability changes after each card. try using your method to calculate the probability that someone is dealt a 7 with 11 players who still have cards
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10-11-2013 , 12:06 AM
Love that you get check/called on the river by a set of aces in that last hand you mentioned. So scary that you tricky Asians will just always show up with a wheel there somehow!
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10-11-2013 , 11:26 PM
Played 6 hours of NO LIMIT HOLD EM today, up $2143. Thought I played A+, very confident in my NLHE game right now.

Hand I played badly:

5/10 NLHE. 3 limps, I raise to $60 with T9 from CO, BB calls, UTG limper calls. They both have around $400 total.

Flop 742, pot $205
Both check, I think I have a profitable bet here as long as I don't give them the illusion of fold equity, so I make it big and bet $150. BB folds, UTG limper jams for $250 more. Oops. I snapcall assuming I'm priced in (in retrospect it's still really marginal and fold is probably best since I won't always have 6 live outs).

Turn K, pot $1005
River Q, pot $1005

Villain shows 98. Sweet, the thinnest of value. I should just be exploitably jamming this flop myself for 2x pot though.

Florida total: $6,015, 218 hours.
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10-12-2013 , 12:36 AM
Hey where you go! We need our toplaner
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10-12-2013 , 04:35 AM
Why are u playing the silly 2 card game . Im telling Tyler!

Btw, loved the hand where u described villain and included that u had the same jacket, made me laugh.
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