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Old 03-14-2016, 01:15 PM   #176
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Re: Finally moving on up?

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nice work bro ! GL
Thanks guys. Early days but things are looking up again.

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Happy to see it turning around for you, keep it up! Do you still mix in Party or is it all FTP? Oh and what ratio 6max/FR do you play these days?
Still mixing Party and FTP. So far this year I've played 62k hands at FTP and 31k at Party. I expect to probably be splitting my volume at about 50% between them now that I've bought Party Caption. It really makes playing on Party so much easier. The graph below shows all my volume this year at Party, where I thought I was gonna go busto for the first time ever. I actually think some hands are missing as even taking bonuses into account I have more money in my account than my results show:



As for the split Between FR and 6max, I've only played 15k hands at FR this year (I thought it would've been less) and all of that was on FTP.
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Old 03-14-2016, 05:33 PM   #177
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Re: Finally moving on up?

Some hands from tonights session on Party

1) Versus a reg. Was surprised with the hand he showed up with


Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Hero (Button) ($26.28)
SB ($25.45)
BB ($19.65)
UTG ($31.73)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K
UTG raises $0.75, Hero raises $2.45, 2 folds, UTG raises $4.75, Hero raises to $26.28 (All-In), UTG calls $20.78

Flop: ($52.91) A, 10, 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($52.91) 6 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($52.91) 3 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $52.91

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2) Another reg

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Hero (SB) ($26.04)
MP ($26.84)
CO ($21.52)
Button ($25.59)
BB ($8.19)
UTG ($49.92)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, A
UTG raises $0.75, 1 fold, CO calls $0.75, 1 fold, Hero raises $3.35, 1 fold, UTG raises to $49.92 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $22.59 (All-In)

Flop: ($53.08) 3, 3, A (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($53.08) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($53.08) 8 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $53.08

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3) Villain was playing 32/22 over 500 hands

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP ($46.40)
Hero (BB) ($50.13)
CO ($28.52)
Button ($25)
SB ($25.10)
UTG ($24.04)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, 5
4 folds, SB calls $0.15, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.50) 4, J, 10 (2 players)
SB bets $0.25, Hero calls $0.25

Turn: ($1) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $0.75, Hero calls $0.75

River: ($2.50) 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.95, SB raises $5.25, Hero raises to $48.88 (All-In), SB calls $18.60 (All-In)

Total pot: $50.20

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4) Not something I ever really do but villain is cbetting flop 75% and turn 70% and has folded to 83% of turn raises (sample of 12)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

SB ($12.89)
Button ($25)
Hero (BB) ($28.17)
MP ($25.47)
UTG ($22)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 9, 9
UTG (poster) checks, MP raises $0.75, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.85) 4, 5, 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($3.85) K (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.25, Hero raises $6, 1 fold

Total pot: $8.35

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Graph below. As Party doesn't save the first hand at each table it missed a further buy in that I won. Bit of a strange one as I 3bet AKo in the BB v an UTG open and the villain called me down on a King high board with QQ





One thing I'm starting to notice on Party is that there is a fair number of aggro regs who seem to be losing players. The kind who 3bet a lot and barrel a ton etc. It's hard to tell for certain as I've only got samples of around 4 or 5k hands but there are a few who seem to play a similar style and all with poor results so far. Will get a better picture as I get a bigger sample on them.
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Old 03-14-2016, 10:27 PM   #178
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Re: Finally moving on up?

Good stuff mate. Those regs are terrible

I too found party aggro same with 888. Heaps of 3b and sq pf and overly large bets in 3b pots like 76-85% at 100bb stack depth.
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Old 03-16-2016, 03:11 PM   #179
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As I posted about earlier, seems to be so many players on Party who are just aggressive for the sake of it and are losing a fair bit. Both hands are against the same villain from a very short session

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

Hero (Button) ($27.67)
UTG ($36.62)
BB ($31.51)
MP ($32)
SB ($25.10)
CO ($28)

Preflop: Hero is Button with J, Q
2 folds, CO raises $0.75, Hero raises $2.45, 2 folds, CO calls $1.70

Flop: ($5.25) J, 8, 8 (2 players)
CO checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($5.25) 9 (2 players)
CO bets $4, Hero calls $4

River: ($13.25) 2 (2 players)
CO bets $9.50, Hero calls $9.50

Total pot: $32.25

Hero had J, Q (two pair, Jacks and eights).
CO had Q, A (one pair, eights).
Outcome: Hero won $30.64



Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Hero (SB) ($43.35)
BB ($25.35)
Button ($26.87)
UTG ($10)

Preflop: Hero is SB with A, Q
UTG (poster) checks, Button raises $1, Hero calls $0.90, 2 folds

Flop: ($2.50) 9, 6, A (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $1.75, Hero calls $1.75

Turn: ($6) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $4.25, Hero calls $4.25

River: ($14.50) 8 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $10.25, Hero calls $10.25

Total pot: $35


Button had Q, 10 (one pair, eights).
Hero had A, Q (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: Hero won $33.25
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Old 03-16-2016, 03:15 PM   #180
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Re: Finally moving on up?

Full Tilt sounds so soft now.
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Old 03-25-2016, 05:35 AM   #181
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Full Tilt sounds so soft now.
Full Tilt was super soft last night. For some reason there seemed to be a lot of new players who were single tabling. It was kinda weird.
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Old 03-25-2016, 05:48 AM   #182
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Wtf hand against a fish

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

BB ($37.87)
Hero (UTG) ($25)
MP ($20.61)
CO ($43.94)
Button ($33.17)
SB ($25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with K, K
Hero raises to $0.75, MP calls $0.75, 1 fold, Button raises to $1.25, 2 folds, Hero raises to $4.85, 1 fold, Button calls $3.60

Flop: ($10.80) Q, 8, J (2 players)
Hero bets $6.48, Button raises to $28.32 (All-In), Hero calls $13.67 (All-In)

Turn: ($51.10) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($51.10) 5 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $51.10 | Rake: $2.55


Button had A, 4 (one pair, Queens).
Hero had K, K (flush, King high).
Outcome: Hero won $48.55



Cooler for aggro villain

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

BB ($25)
UTG ($42.58)
MP ($65.07)
Hero (Button) ($27.63)
SB ($27.90)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, Q
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.75, 1 fold, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.35) 2, Q, K (3 players)
BB checks, MP bets $1.50, Hero calls $1.50, 1 fold

Turn: ($5.35) K (2 players)
MP bets $3.50, Hero calls $3.50

River: ($12.35) 6 (2 players)
MP bets $8.50, Hero raises to $21.88 (All-In), MP calls $13.38

Total pot: $56.11 | Rake: $2.80


Hero had K, Q (full house, Kings over Queens).
MP had 2, 2 (full house, twos over Kings).
Outcome: Hero won $53.31


Only a few hands on this fish. He doesn't like folding...

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

SB ($24)
BB ($25.91)
Hero (UTG) ($33.22)
Button ($17.87)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 6, A
Hero raises to $0.75, 1 fold, SB calls $0.65, 1 fold

Flop: ($1.75) 7, 8, 5 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $1.22, SB raises to $3, Hero calls $1.78

Turn: ($7.75) 4 (2 players)
SB bets $3, Hero raises to $10, SB calls $7

River: ($27.75) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12, SB calls $10.25 (All-In)

Total pot: $48.25 | Rake: $2


SB had 8, K (one pair, eights).
Hero had 6, A (straight, eight high).
Outcome: Hero won $46.25




Bluffcatching against aggro reg

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

SB ($32.33)
BB ($66.54)
UTG ($30.45)
MP ($28.91)
Hero (CO) ($26.47)
Button ($49.01)

Preflop: Hero is CO with 3, A
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, Button calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) K, 7, 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.29, Button calls $1.29

Turn: ($4.43) A (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $3.10, Hero calls $3.10

River: ($10.63) 2 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $6.37, Hero calls $6.37

Total pot: $23.37 | Rake: $1.16


Button had 10, Q (high card, Ace).
Hero had 3, A (flush, Ace high).
Outcome: Hero won $22.21



Also, I had this villain at my table last night. He was down over 8 buy ins in 75 hands. The remarkable thing is that he wasn't even playing full stacked for a lot of hands. He'd reload to weird amounts like 57bb.

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Old 03-25-2016, 12:36 PM   #183
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Good stuff.

The a6 hand especially against a fella who doesn't enjoy folding probably plays better as an x/call on the flop. Especially with a bdfd. Would be a huge shame to have your cbet raised here (as it was)

Also a3o may be a tad on loose side for a CO open but if people aren't 3betting you can definitely get away with it and those gutter small Aces hands are definitely my first adds to Co open range at a soft table

Keep it up
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Old 03-25-2016, 12:50 PM   #184
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Good stuff.

The a6 hand especially against a fella who doesn't enjoy folding probably plays better as an x/call on the flop. Especially with a bdfd. Would be a huge shame to have your cbet raised here (as it was)

Also a3o may be a tad on loose side for a CO open but if people aren't 3betting you can definitely get away with it and those gutter small Aces hands are definitely my first adds to Co open range at a soft table

Keep it up
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Funnily enough I had a look at my low Axo opening range from the CO recently after looking at a few recommended ranges that didn't include those hands. It's been profitable for me so far:





Definitely something to keep an eye on though
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Old 03-25-2016, 01:18 PM   #185
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looking at profits by hand is a really ineffective way to analyse your db because so many hands will be very close to 0ev and there will still be a lot of variance... you will literally never get a significant sample
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looking at profits by hand is a really ineffective way to analyse your db because so many hands will be very close to 0ev and there will still be a lot of variance... you will literally never get a significant sample
Looking at that range of hands though shows it is profitable over a reasonable sample (Almost 2000 hands when I filter it). As ever in poker we'll never get our true winrate (or loss rate) here but we can only go with the info we have.
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Old 03-25-2016, 02:28 PM   #187
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Looking at that range of hands though shows it is profitable over a reasonable sample (Almost 2000 hands when I filter it). As ever in poker we'll never get our true winrate (or loss rate) here but we can only go with the info we have.
find the stdevbb/100 for that sample, and plug into pokerdope, assuming a true winrate of 0.3bb/100 or something
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find the stdevbb/100 for that sample, and plug into pokerdope, assuming a true winrate of 0.3bb/100 or something
Why would you assume a true winrate of 0.3bb/100? This seems super low
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Why would you assume a true winrate of 0.3bb/100? This seems super low
because we're filtering for super-marginal hands... basically, your winrate will mostly come from premiums (top 6-10%), and most other hands are quite close to 0EV.
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because we're filtering for super-marginal hands... basically, your winrate will mostly come from premiums (top 6-10%), and most other hands are quite close to 0EV.
Overall yeah but not when you filter for specific situations. For example, if I look at this spot (opening in the CO) and I take out TT+/AQ then my winrate is 40bb. Now obviously sample size is an issue but if my winrate with these hands wasn't at that sort of level then I'd be in trouble as my overall CO winrate would nosedive.
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Overall yeah but not when you filter for specific situations. For example, if I look at this spot (opening in the CO) and I take out TT+/AQ then my winrate is 40bb. Now obviously sample size is an issue but if my winrate with these hands wasn't at that sort of level then I'd be in trouble as my overall CO winrate would nosedive.
I'm somewhat surprised. What's your CO winrate with A2-A8o?

Also, note that for marginal opens, the value of DB analysis is likely to be skewed, because if you mostly fold them but open with a fish at the table, you're going to see a positive value, but not one which implies you should open them as part of a default/reg-only table range.
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I'm somewhat surprised. What's your CO winrate with A2-A8o?

Also, note that for marginal opens, the value of DB analysis is likely to be skewed, because if you mostly fold them but open with a fish at the table, you're going to see a positive value, but not one which implies you should open them as part of a default/reg-only table range.
If I filter for A2-A8o in the CO my winrate is 13.1bb.

If I run the same filter for where the pot is unopened and I am raising with these hands in the CO then the winrate is 25.1bb
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If I filter for A2-A8o in the CO my winrate is 13.1bb.

If I run the same filter for where the pot is unopened and I am raising with these hands in the CO then the winrate is 25.1bb
What's the sample and stdev?
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What's the sample and stdev?
For the latter example (unopened pot and I'm the preflop raiser) the results are over 1660 hands and the std dev is 7.22bb
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These hands don't seem to feel as bad when villain binks on the flop

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Hero (SB) ($61.89)
Button ($31.39)
BB ($25)
UTG ($8.20)
MP ($28.16)

Preflop: Hero is SB with K, K
2 folds, Button raises $0.50, Hero raises $1.90, BB calls $1.75, 1 fold

Flop: ($4.50) 8, 2, 3 (2 players)
Hero bets $2.75, BB calls $2.75

Turn: ($10) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $6.33, BB calls $6.33

River: ($22.66) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $14.35, BB calls $13.92 (All-In)

Total pot: $50.50

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Dream flop against bluffy villain. I'd have called down with Tx here but I think that river would've scared me a bit.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (8 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Button ($26)
SB ($25)
BB ($26)
UTG ($24.66)
UTG+1 ($33.54)
Hero (MP1) ($29.69)
MP2 ($42.41)
CO ($25.37)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with 10, 10
2 folds, Hero raises to $0.75, 4 folds, BB calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 2, 8, 10 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $1.12, BB raises to $3.25, Hero calls $2.13

Turn: ($8.10) 5 (2 players)
BB bets $7.75, Hero calls $7.75

River: ($23.60) 8 (2 players)
BB bets $14.25 (All-In), Hero calls $14.25

Total pot: $52.10 | Rake: $2.60

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Looks like I'll manage about 45k hands this month, which will be the most I've played post Black Friday.
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Results for the month. Disappointing ending when it was looking as though it could've been my best for ages:



Party doesn't save the first hand on every table so by checking my balance there and including bonuses I'm up $942.30 for the month. I'd have bitten your hand off for this at the beginning of the month but the dip at the end took the shine off it.
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nice month! you moving up now?
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+1 no excuses...just DO IT
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Awesome recovery from the mishaps of last month. Keep it up, maybe move up mid month next month if things are going well?
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nice month! you moving up now?
Yeah I'll take a shot at some point this month.

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I know. I've run out of excuses

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Awesome recovery from the mishaps of last month. Keep it up, maybe move up mid month next month if things are going well?
Ty, that's the plan. I've got a poker metrics review coming up with Alan Jackson so the plan is to take a shot after that.
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