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03-01-2018 , 07:56 AM
After so much work finally some really good results! Happy to see that*

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03-01-2018 , 09:06 AM
Graphs looking good.

That yearly one, you are up about 30 BIs then at 25NL in ~35k hands meaning you are running around 8bb/100 or something?

Well played if so.
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03-01-2018 , 02:24 PM
Graph is looking tasty mate, strong! Keep it up
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03-01-2018 , 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by pokkerreddu
After so much work finally some really good results! Happy to see that*

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Originally Posted by dev123
Graphs looking good.

That yearly one, you are up about 30 BIs then at 25NL in ~35k hands meaning you are running around 8bb/100 or something?

Well played if so.
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Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
Graph is looking tasty mate, strong! Keep it up
Cheers guys. Made some adjustments but as usual it's difficult to tell how much they are responsible for the results and how much may just be a bit of running hot.

Results are 8.45bb (7.31 ev)
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03-01-2018 , 05:50 PM
Some hands:

1) Almost the first hand of the month. Didn't like that river too much but villain was from Belarus so....

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

MP ($39.05)
CO ($25.25)
Button ($44.03)
SB ($18.75)
BB ($49.62)
Hero (UTG) ($25.25)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, Q
Hero raises to $0.75, MP raises to $2.25, 4 folds, Hero calls $1.50

Flop: ($4.85) Q, A, 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $2.32, Hero calls $2.32

Turn: ($9.49) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $6.80, Hero calls $6.80

River: ($23.09) K (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $16.54, Hero calls $13.88 (All-In)

Total pot: $50.85 | Rake: $2


Hero had A, Q (two pair, Aces and Queens).
MP had 9, 8 (one pair, fours).
Outcome: Hero won $48.85


2) Gotta admit, I hate seeing a reg getting rewarded after playing like this

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

SB ($25)
BB ($47.02)
UTG ($31.88)
MP ($33.07)
Hero (Button) ($45.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with K, K
UTG raises to $0.50, MP raises to $1.50, Hero raises to $4, 3 folds, MP calls $2.50

Flop: ($8.85) 10, 8, 6 (2 players)
MP checks, Hero bets $2.79, MP raises to $10, Hero calls $7.21

Turn: ($28.85) 6 (2 players)
MP bets $19.07 (All-In), Hero calls $19.07

River: ($66.99) A (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $66.99 | Rake: $2


Hero had K, K (two pair, Kings and sixes).
MP had A, Q (two pair, Aces and sixes).
Outcome: MP won $64.99


3) Not sure why I 3bet AJo here as it's not in my usual range. Villain was an aggro reg

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

UTG ($11.06)
MP ($27.70)
Button ($26.37)
Hero (SB) ($37.53)
BB ($25)

Preflop: Hero is SB with J, A
1 fold, MP raises to $0.62, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.50, 1 fold, MP calls $1.88

Flop: ($5.25) 5, 2, A (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $5, Hero calls $5

Turn: ($15.25) 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP checks

River: ($15.25) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, MP bets $20.20 (All-In), Hero calls $20.20

Total pot: $55.65 | Rake: $2


Hero had J, A (one pair, Aces).
MP had J, Q (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $53.65

4) Not a reg!

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Button ($27.30)
SB ($54.25)
BB ($34.89)
UTG ($30.26)
Hero (MP) ($29.43)

Preflop: Hero is MP with K, A
1 fold, Hero raises to $0.63, Button raises to $3.50, 2 folds, Hero raises to $29.43 (All-In), Button calls $23.80 (All-In)

Flop: ($54.95) 6, 4, 3 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Turn: ($54.95) 2 (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($54.95) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $54.95 | Rake: $2

Spoiler:

Button had 9, 6 (one pair, sixes).
Hero had K, A (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Button won $52.95
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03-10-2018 , 05:07 AM
A quick update.

Things still appear to be going well. My volume is still lower than usual but I'm doing a bit of work off the tables so that's responsible for some of it.

With regards to my results so far I think 4 things are responsible for them (in no particular order)

1) Some rungood
2) I adjusted my preflop ranges based on last years results
3) I've made some changes postflop, that I'm still working on
4) I'm using TST for seating rather than doing things manually so I'm probably sitting on tables that are slightly less reg heavy than usual

It's impossible to tell how much each element is responsible for my improved winrate and my mind wants to downplay number 1 even though there's a chance it could be entirely responsible, although I hope not as that would mean I'm probably gonna have a helluva downswing at some point.

I'm having to fight the urge to work on too many things at once at the moment but I've mainly been concentrating on playing in position as the preflop raiser and I'm trying to get a really good understanding of that before moving on. One other thing I have started trying out from yesterday is including a limping range in the SB. I've always been of the understanding that it's not really a viable option in the micros due to the rake but having had a look at a few things I think I may be able to make it work. Time will tell though.

I'll post an updated graph in a few days when I have a few more hands as I've only got 5000 so far for the month.
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03-10-2018 , 11:09 AM
Couldn't help taking a peek at my graph for the month so far so I may as well post it

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03-15-2018 , 05:47 PM
That 2nd hand of the session feeling where you're just a bit too keen for some action

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - PokerStars Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Hero (SB) ($25.35)
BB ($25)
UTG ($25)
MP ($129.16)
CO ($20.55)
Button ($23.32)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 9, 10
4 folds, Hero raises to $0.63, BB raises to $1.89, Hero calls $1.26

Flop: ($3.78) 7, J, Q (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $1.98, Hero calls $1.98

Turn: ($7.74) 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $3.75, Hero calls $3.75

River: ($15.24) 6 (2 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $7.13, Hero raises to $17.73 (All-In), BB calls $10.25 (All-In)

Total pot: $50 | Rake: $2

Spoiler:

Hero had 9, 10 (high card, Queen).
BB had A, A (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: BB won $48


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03-20-2018 , 02:06 PM
Month so far:



Year so far:
Spoiler:


fishonaheater.gif
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03-20-2018 , 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
Month so far:



Year so far:
Spoiler:


fishonaheater.gif
Funny boy!!!! Great*

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03-30-2018 , 05:42 AM
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Originally Posted by pokkerreddu
Funny boy!!!! Great*

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wp
Thanks guys.
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03-30-2018 , 05:45 AM
For anyone reading this who uses PIO etc, I need to ask a favour. I'm looking at modelling resteal plays as I still believe my play in 3bet pots, especially OOP is a big weakness in my game. What bet sizings should I include in my sims and should I vary it based on flop types? Flop especially I'm torn between using only a 50% cbet sizing or sometimes using a 33% sizing, depending on the texture. Using a mixture of both and allowing the software to choose just complicates things. Happy for a PM if you don't want to post on here.
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03-30-2018 , 09:59 AM
Hadn't played against this fella before but I'll be searching him out from now on if he tilts this easily

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) - Converted at http://www.handhistoryconverter.com/

Hero (BB) ($25.83)
UTG ($26.32)
Button ($22.60)
SB ($41.05)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 10, 5
2 folds, SB raises to $0.75, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.50) K, 3, 2 (2 players)
SB bets $1, Hero calls $1

Turn: ($3.50) 10 (2 players)
SB bets $2.50, Hero calls $2.50

River: ($8.50) J (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $5, SB calls $5

Total pot: $18.50 | Rake: $0.83


angrychap: fantastic play you f ucking re tard
angrychap: can't fold 10 5 you utter c unt
angrychap: don't go anywhere spunkbubble


Spoiler:
He left before me
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03-30-2018 , 10:24 AM
What did he have? haha
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03-30-2018 , 10:48 AM
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What did he have? haha
Oops, didn't realise it hadn't shown. He had KT
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03-30-2018 , 07:48 PM
Graph for March



Meh
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03-31-2018 , 01:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
For anyone reading this who uses PIO etc, I need to ask a favour. I'm looking at modelling resteal plays as I still believe my play in 3bet pots, especially OOP is a big weakness in my game. What bet sizings should I include in my sims and should I vary it based on flop types? Flop especially I'm torn between using only a 50% cbet sizing or sometimes using a 33% sizing, depending on the texture. Using a mixture of both and allowing the software to choose just complicates things. Happy for a PM if you don't want to post on here.
If you give Pio multiple bet sizings it tends to just divide its bets between them rather than picking one sizing over the other. Id say give Pio one sizing for each street and try to learn how it plays its ranges. You could always run the same sim twice to see how it differs to bet 33% each street vs 50%. Then when you are at the tables figure out what bet sizing strategy seems most appropriate for the current spot considering your range, the board and the villain.
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04-01-2018 , 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by dev123
If you give Pio multiple bet sizings it tends to just divide its bets between them rather than picking one sizing over the other. Id say give Pio one sizing for each street and try to learn how it plays its ranges. You could always run the same sim twice to see how it differs to bet 33% each street vs 50%. Then when you are at the tables figure out what bet sizing strategy seems most appropriate for the current spot considering your range, the board and the villain.
+1
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04-01-2018 , 08:32 AM
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Originally Posted by dev123
If you give Pio multiple bet sizings it tends to just divide its bets between them rather than picking one sizing over the other. Id say give Pio one sizing for each street and try to learn how it plays its ranges. You could always run the same sim twice to see how it differs to bet 33% each street vs 50%. Then when you are at the tables figure out what bet sizing strategy seems most appropriate for the current spot considering your range, the board and the villain.
I'd initially given it the option of a couple of sizings but as you say it just complicates things by betting the various sizings a certain percentage of times. I've actually run different board types with specific sizings and when I feel a bit less hungover I'll get round to trying to analyse them to see if the EV of certain sizings are higher EV.

All these years of playing poker and I've never really felt all that confident playing resteal pots oops.
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04-02-2018 , 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Husker
I'd initially given it the option of a couple of sizings but as you say it just complicates things by betting the various sizings a certain percentage of times. I've actually run different board types with specific sizings and when I feel a bit less hungover I'll get round to trying to analyse them to see if the EV of certain sizings are higher EV.

All these years of playing poker and I've never really felt all that confident playing resteal pots oops.
If you give it say two sizings, 33 and 55%, find out which one it prefers in a spot and then figure out why. Apply a simplified strategy of just using one sizing (the one it prefers). You can actually re-solve using one sizing (i.e. the one it suggests) and quite often the EV of the simplified strategy is very close to the Strat with multiple sizings.

Knowing how to simplify Pio strats effectively is really valuable imo.
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04-14-2018 , 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by meale
If you give it say two sizings, 33 and 55%, find out which one it prefers in a spot and then figure out why. Apply a simplified strategy of just using one sizing (the one it prefers). You can actually re-solve using one sizing (i.e. the one it suggests) and quite often the EV of the simplified strategy is very close to the Strat with multiple sizings.

Knowing how to simplify Pio strats effectively is really valuable imo.
When I looked at sizings in another spot I was actually quite surprised to find that changing sizings didn't actually make much, if any, difference to the EV.
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04-14-2018 , 08:54 AM
My positional winrates are pretty ****ed up. BTN winrate is shockingly bad



Digging around to see where the issue is my cold calls and 3bets on the button are both profitable.

When I filter for unopened pots as pfr I get this:


Probably running hot in EP and MP but CO and BTN are bad.

So I'm either not doing well enough when I open on the button and get a flat or when I open and face a 3bet.
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04-14-2018 , 08:57 AM
the values are legit pointless to look at right now fwiw


edit - sample size issue
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04-14-2018 , 09:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Brokenstars
the values are legit pointless to look at right now fwiw


edit - sample size issue
Yeah, I'm a worrier though
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