Pocket 7's would have caused a reaction

I've had worse today and managed to avoid going on the rampage. Just about to head out to the football though so someone may suffer

Last 2 days



Rivered a set, which also brought villain's J7 a straight
Flopped trips and villain triple barrels and binks his 2 outer boat on the river
A few 3bet pots where I have a slightly worse hands (JJ << QQ, JJ << AQ etc)

I think I need to review my play in 3bet pots as it feels as though I'm losing time after time in them. As I posted above I seem just to have a slightly worse hand a lot of the time and I'm not sure if it's variance or bad play. I did notice one hand where I called with KQ and the flop was King high and villain had AK. Looking at this positional stats though it should really have been a fold preflop against him. Will maybe look into it a bit more over the weekend.

Still being rivered hand after hand after hand. Rather than post them though I thought I'd post 2 hands I won.

1) For a change I had an absolute dream river. Villain must've been fuming but I don't have the chat on so I don't know if anything was said

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Hero (CO) ($26.22)
BB ($25)
MP ($26.14)
Button ($32.15)
UTG ($29.34)
SB ($25)

Preflop: Hero is CO with J, J
2 folds, Hero raises $0.75, 2 folds, BB raises $2.25, Hero calls $1.75

Flop: ($5.10) 9, K, 10 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks

Turn: ($5.10) 9 (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $3, BB calls $3

River: ($11.10) Q (2 players)
BB checks, Hero bets $7.91, BB raises to $19.50 (All-In), Hero calls $11.59

Total pot: $50.10


BB didn't show (He had QQ)
Hero had J, J (straight flush, King high).
Outcome: Hero won $47.60


2) Amusing hand. I was cursing the river again as every draw had got there. Or at least I thought they all had...

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com/

Hero (UTG) ($25.35)
CO ($25)
BB ($18.50)
SB ($27.50)
Button ($25)
MP ($25.35)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with 10, 10
Hero raises $0.75, MP calls $0.75, CO calls $0.75, 3 folds

Flop: ($2.60) 10, 3, J (3 players)
Hero bets $1.75, MP calls $1.75, 1 fold

Turn: ($6.10) 5 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.90, MP raises to $22.85 (All-In), Hero calls $17.95 (All-In)

River: ($51.80) 9 (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $51.80




Time to head out for the football. Stuck a few quid on Kane to score first and England to win 2 nil.

Quick question for anyone who's still reading. What's your winrate on the button when you filter for between 4-6 players and the pot is unopened? Also the results for the same filter but you include that you are opening preflop?

winrates cant be compared and it is a mistake to compare.
why ?
example:
compare vs river cbet.. normally it should be negative
but someone has it positive.... this would mean he play good river? maybe? but also it might mean he folds too much on turn.

even best database analysers do such mistakes ... and to get an answer for your questions you need a sample of players like 1 milion and each of them to give his answer.

Eh? Winrates can definitely be compared.

Very last hand of the session. All the other tables were closed down

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Hero (MP) ($58.47)
Button ($18.12)
BB ($29.27)
UTG ($22.40)
SB ($36.89)

Preflop: Hero is MP with A, A
UTG calls $0.25, Hero raises $1.25, 3 folds, UTG raises to $22.40 (All-In), Hero calls $21.15

Flop: ($45.15) J, 4, 2 (2 players, 1 all-in)

Turn: ($45.15) 10 (2 players, 1 all-in)

River: ($45.15) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $45.15




Obviously sat straight back in on the table but he left

You want lifetime? My best stake? My highest stake? All stakes?

Regular stake for this year.

Unfortunately for me, I don't have one. I've played 28k hands at 10nl, 48k hands at 5nl, and 26k hands at 2nl.

Nevertheless:

28k hands, 10nl, 6max Zoom:

Unopened BTN: 14.14 bb/100
When I open: 31.64 bb/100


48k hands, 5nl, 6max Zoom/Reg:

Unopened BTN: 11.01 bb/100
When I open: 24.51 bb/100


26k hands, 2nl, 6max Zoom/Reg:

Unopened BTN: 45.55 bb/100
When I open: 91.01 bb/100


Just to be clear, the amount of hands played is total at the stake, not hands played from the button.

I'm in a rush and don't have HEM working on this PC, but I'm posting now so that when I get the subscription email tomorrow, I'll have a reminder. I'll either PM you my stats or post in the thread, depending on how embarrassing my button results are!

As you know I mostly play untracked on Uni, but for the 888/Stars/MPN hands I have for a small sample of 4NL-10NL (mix of fast and regular) in the last 2 years (with an overall winrate of 5bb/100) I've got button EV winrates of
Unopened: 34.5bb/100
Opened: 96bb/100

At 2NL, both figures were significantly higher. The stats for Zoom were much lower.

FWIW I think I attempt steals OTB less often than most regs, but I'm not sure if I could increase the winrate much by opening wider.

Regarding the button winrates, mine is terrible on Party and I think this may be down to me not adjusting properly to facing more aggresive blind play.

I'm only winning 20.42bb which is at least 10bb below where I'd want to be

In an unopened pot it's 17.4bb

When I open it's 34.07bb. In this spot I've got a sample of just over 5k hands on the button and my winrate peaked after 2.7k hands and has been breakeven since then. Hmmmm

In other news.....I've booked up for a week in Vegas in September

Should have gone for wsop

I probably won't play any poker. Will just be lots of eating and drinking etc. Maybe some black jack as well

Today was just dirty

1) Versus aggro reg

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

Hero (UTG) ($25.70)
Button ($25.50)
SB ($44.48)
BB ($25)
MP ($47.99)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with Q, J
Hero raises $0.75, 1 fold, Button calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) 3, 8, 10 (2 players)
Hero bets $1.25, Button calls $1.25

Turn: ($4.35) K (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.75, Hero raises $6.87, Button calls $4.12

River: ($18.09) 9 (2 players)
Hero bets $11.75, Button raises to $16.63 (All-In), Hero calls $4.88

Total pot: $51.35


Button had A, 9 (flush, Ace high).
Hero had Q, J (flush, King high).
Outcome: Button won $48.79


2) Versus aggro reg part 2 (He's restealing 30% from the SB)

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Hero (Button) ($31.50)
BB ($28.34)
MP ($66.67)
SB ($25)
UTG ($45.30)

Preflop: Hero is Button with Q, K
2 folds, Hero raises $0.62, SB raises $1.88, 1 fold, Hero calls $1.36

Flop: ($4.21) K, 9, K (2 players)
SB bets $2, Hero calls $2

Turn: ($8.21) A (2 players)
SB checks, Hero checks

River: ($8.21) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $4.50, Hero raises $12, SB raises to $21.02 (All-In), Hero calls $9.02

Total pot: $50.25

Hero had Q, K (three of a kind, Kings).
SB had K, A (full house, Kings over Aces).
Outcome: SB won $47.74


3) Unknown fish

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

CO ($25)
Hero (BB) ($25)
Button ($31.56)
SB ($25.06)
MP ($25)
UTG ($52.65)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2, 2
3 folds, Button raises $0.75, SB calls $0.65, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($2.25) 9, 2, K (3 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold

Turn: ($3.25) 10 (2 players)
SB bets $0.50, Hero raises $2.90, SB raises $4.80, Hero calls $2.40

River: ($13.85) 6 (2 players)
SB bets $3.50, Hero raises $15.77, SB calls $12.27

Total pot: $45.39


SB had 10, 10 (three of a kind, tens).
Hero had 2, 2 (three of a kind, twos).
Outcome: SB won $43.13


4) Against a whale

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://www.flopturnriver.com

SB ($26.28)
Hero (BB) ($34.43)
Button ($13.10)
UTG ($34.87)
CO ($28.18)
MP ($16.42)

Preflop: Hero is BB with A, A
1 fold, MP raises $0.75, 3 folds, Hero raises $2.45, MP calls $1.95

Flop: ($5.50) K, 4, 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $3.25, MP calls $3.25

Turn: ($12) 6 (2 players)
Hero bets $11.40, MP calls $10.47 (All-In)

River: ($32.94) Q (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $32.94


Hero had A, A (one pair, Aces).
MP had 5, 3 (flush, King high).
Outcome: MP won $31.30


5) Final one for the lols versus a fish

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Hero (Button) ($35.08)
BB ($26.85)
SB ($25)
CO ($45.14)
MP ($47.27)
UTG ($10.07)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 9, 9
UTG calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero raises $1, 2 folds, UTG calls $0.75

Flop: ($2.35) 4, 3, 4 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $1.62, UTG calls $1.62

Turn: ($5.59) 5 (2 players)
UTG checks, Hero bets $8, UTG calls $7.45 (All-In)

River: ($20.49) K (2 players, 1 all-in)

Total pot: $20.49


Hero had 9, 9 (two pair, nines and fours).
UTG had 6, K (two pair, Kings and fours).
Outcome: UTG won $19.47

Holy hell man, that's a sick day. Nothing you can do against those aggro regs in my eyes, seems like variance just kicked your ass today. Hows the month going overall?

those hands were real nasty. i would play nearly all of them the same apart from the KQ 3b pots raise call otr. raise folding is much better.

chin up and keep grinding man glgl

Not really a fan of turn xr with QJhh fwiw

Yeah I just had to take it. I'm down 2bi for the month overall, which is disappointing.

Really difficult for me to raise fold in that spot (in any spot on the river to be fair ). I was telling myself that with his range being so wide it was possible he had KT, KJ.

I'll keep fighting. I've just looked at my results and I've played 117k hands at Party (all 6 max) and I'm a losing player, which is difficult to take. I wish I could change the thread title to 'Making the switch to 6max', I think I jinxed the thing. Anyway, good luck in your own game and hop you get back to crushing.

It's definitely not my usual line but villain bets 100% versus a missed turn barrel so I thought I'd take this line instead and if he folded I'd look at doing it with semi-bluffs etc in the future. My inner nit wanted to test things with a value hand though.

Wow, I've just (accidentally) picked up on something pretty incredible while looking at HEM.

It feels as though it's gotta be wrong but when I check some hand histories I can't find anything wrong. Anyway, to show what it is, here's my graph for all my hands at Party. I'm actually a few buy ins better off than the graph shows as it doesn't pick up the first hand at every table.




Now, here's my graph when I filter for 4-6 players:



And finally here's my graph for 2-3 handed





I'm actually genuinely stunned to discover this. I don't start tables or really play short handed when a table's breaking unless there's a fish there and even then I don't hang around to battle much. On the one hand I actually feel kinda good about it as it's an easy leak to plug but it's incredibly bad to look at.

You're probably way too tight in the blinds. That's all I can think of for losses like that.

FWIW, I vaguely recall a 20k sample (so about 3500 hands in each seat) where I somehow lost money on the button, but was profitable in both blind positions. #variance.