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04-14-2016 , 03:47 PM
Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Button ($38.66)
SB ($15.50)
Hero (BB) ($25)
UTG ($53.58)
MP ($46.60)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 4, 4
UTG raises to $0.75, 3 folds, Hero calls $0.50

Flop: ($1.60) 3, 3, 4 (2 players)
Hero checks, UTG checks

Turn: ($1.60) Q (2 players)
Hero bets $1.20, UTG raises to $2.50, Hero raises to $7, UTG calls $4.50

River: ($15.60) 8 (2 players)
Hero bets $10.92, UTG raises to $21.84, Hero calls $6.33 (All-In)

Total pot: $50.10 | Rake: $2.50


Hero had 4, 4 (full house, fours over threes).
UTG had 3, 3 (four of a kind, threes).
Outcome: UTG won $47.60





Villain: sick, i just had that feeling though.

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04-15-2016 , 06:11 PM
The Friday night limpers are out and I just flopped the world. MP had been spazzing out a fair bit so I was hoping he'd get aggro at some point but unfortunately he folded.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

UTG ($14.83)
MP ($25)
CO ($26.76)
Button ($25)
Hero (SB) ($28.72)
BB ($25.43)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 5
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1) 7, 4, 6 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold

Turn: ($2.50) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.50, UTG calls $2

River: ($7.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, UTG calls $11.58 (All-In)

Total pot: $30.66 | Rake: $1.53


Hero had 3, 5 (straight flush, seven high).
UTG had 6, 6 (full house, sixes over twos).
Outcome: Hero won $29.13


Aggro fish just can't help themselves

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

MP ($40.65)
CO ($26.72)
Button ($33.26)
SB ($93.48)
Hero (BB) ($25)
UTG ($48.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Button raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.65, Hero raises to $4.80, 1 fold, Button calls $3.05, SB calls $3.05

Flop: ($15.15) 3, A, 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $28.46 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $20.20 (All-In)

Turn: ($55.55) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($55.55) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $55.55 | Rake: $2.77


Button had 9, 9 (one pair, nines).
Hero had K, A (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won $52.78




Pretty sure I lost at least a couple of buy ins this session. I just can't seem toget any traction going at the moment so I'm kinda behind schedule with where I'd hoped to be.
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04-15-2016 , 08:41 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Husker
The Friday night limpers are out and I just flopped the world. MP had been spazzing out a fair bit so I was hoping he'd get aggro at some point but unfortunately he folded.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com/

UTG ($14.83)
MP ($25)
CO ($26.76)
Button ($25)
Hero (SB) ($28.72)
BB ($25.43)

Preflop: Hero is SB with 3, 5
UTG calls $0.25, MP calls $0.25, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.15, BB checks

Flop: ($1) 7, 4, 6 (4 players)
Hero checks, BB checks, UTG bets $0.50, MP calls $0.50, Hero calls $0.50, 1 fold

Turn: ($2.50) 2 (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $0.50, 1 fold, Hero raises to $2.50, UTG calls $2

River: ($7.50) 2 (2 players)
Hero bets $12, UTG calls $11.58 (All-In)

Total pot: $30.66 | Rake: $1.53


Hero had 3, 5 (straight flush, seven high).
UTG had 6, 6 (full house, sixes over twos).
Outcome: Hero won $29.13


Aggro fish just can't help themselves

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (6 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

MP ($40.65)
CO ($26.72)
Button ($33.26)
SB ($93.48)
Hero (BB) ($25)
UTG ($48.20)

Preflop: Hero is BB with K, A
1 fold, MP raises to $0.75, 1 fold, Button raises to $1.75, SB calls $1.65, Hero raises to $4.80, 1 fold, Button calls $3.05, SB calls $3.05

Flop: ($15.15) 3, A, 4 (3 players)
SB checks, Hero checks, Button bets $28.46 (All-In), 1 fold, Hero calls $20.20 (All-In)

Turn: ($55.55) Q (2 players, 2 all-in)

River: ($55.55) J (2 players, 2 all-in)

Total pot: $55.55 | Rake: $2.77


Button had 9, 9 (one pair, nines).
Hero had K, A (one pair, Aces).
Outcome: Hero won $52.78




Pretty sure I lost at least a couple of buy ins this session. I just can't seem toget any traction going at the moment so I'm kinda behind schedule with where I'd hoped to be.


Sounds familiar dude im getting crushed. When you had that downswing how many bi did you lose? I'm down about 17 atm
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04-16-2016 , 04:50 AM
I'm actually not sure exactly how much it was. At the start of the year I quickly won 16bi and then it went downhill from there. The graph below shows a 40bi downswing from that point but I think it was a bit less than that. Party doesn't save the first hand at every table and the cashier there always showed a few bi more than my results on hem so I can only conclude I do well with the first hand at the table. Maybe I should quit after that

Anyway, I think it was probably around 35bi at most.

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04-16-2016 , 06:09 AM
So looking back at it now how do you think the downswing could have been reduced? Less tilt? Play less tables? Etc

I have a tilt problem and click call too much lol
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04-16-2016 , 06:59 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by max85
So looking back at it now how do you think the downswing could have been reduced? Less tilt? Play less tables? Etc

I have a tilt problem and click call too much lol
I'm not sure it could have been reduced to be honest. I just ran really horribly. At a push I think the fact I'd started playing on a new site where everyone was new and the games were a bit more aggro than usual may have impacted a bit on things but I'm not even sure about that. The most important thing is not to let the frustration creep into your game but sometimes you've just gotta take what's coming. I just tell myself that I know I'm gonna come back from it and if I spew then it just means it's a longer road back.

I had a situation last night where I got owned hard by an aggro losing villain who plays 38/31/14 . Stacked twice in 3bet pots against him (AA>>>QQ, AK>>>>AQ) and then a ton of single raised pots where I had 2nd pair to his top pair or top pair against his 2 pair. I just ran into the top of his range all night and there's nothing I could do about that. Over the piece though he's just gonna keep spewing off a ton of money (hopefully back in my direction)

Fwiw here's the section of my graph following the low point of the downswing. I immediately when on a 50bi upswing (with a little downer at the end of it)



I think it's just a case of trying to get out of the mindset that you can't play the game when you start losing and also the one that convinces you that you've solved poker when you go on a heater
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04-17-2016 , 11:24 PM
awesome upswing i wish i could experience that lol
cheers for replys made me feel better ha
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04-18-2016 , 12:20 PM
Crazy start to a session today where I was losing to a lot of trash but also hitting hard with the occasional less than stellar hand myself.

Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (3 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

SB ($24.59)
BB ($13.87)
Hero (Button) ($25.40)

Preflop: Hero is Button with 6, 8
Hero raises to $0.62, SB raises to $1.50, 1 fold, Hero calls $0.88

Flop: ($3.25) 8, 4, 10 (2 players)
SB bets $2.10, Hero calls $2.10

Turn: ($7.45) 8 (2 players)
SB bets $4.90, Hero calls $4.90

River: ($17.25) 6 (2 players)
SB checks, Hero bets $12.07, SB calls $12.07

Total pot: $41.39 | Rake: $1


Hero had 6, 8 (full house, eights over sixes).
SB had A, A (two pair, Aces and eights).
Outcome: Hero won $40.39



Full Tilt No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (5 handed) - Full Tilt Converter Tool from http://poker-tools.flopturnriver.com/Hand-Converter.php

Button ($21.05)
SB ($37.84)
Hero (BB) ($25)
UTG ($25)
MP ($45.19)

Preflop: Hero is BB with 2, 4
2 folds, Button calls $0.25, 1 fold, Hero checks

Flop: ($0.60) 2, 2, Q (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.25, Hero raises to $0.91, Button calls $0.66

Turn: ($2.42) A (2 players)
Hero bets $1.69, Button calls $1.69

River: ($5.80) 4 (2 players)
Hero bets $4.60, Button raises to $18.20 (All-In), Hero calls $13.60

Total pot: $42.20 | Rake: $2.11


Button had Q, A (two pair, Aces and Queens).
Hero had 2, 4 (full house, twos over fours).
Outcome: Hero won $40.09
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04-18-2016 , 03:08 PM
If river isn't all-in with 86 that's suboptimal imo
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04-20-2016 , 03:59 PM
Not one of my usual lines

Villain was only folding 12% to flop cbets and wasn't folding to turn barrels either.

Party Poker No-Limit Hold'em, $0.25 BB (4 handed) - Party-Poker Converter Tool from http://flopturnriver.com

Hero (UTG) ($25.70)
SB ($44.68)
Button ($38.04)
BB ($31.06)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A, 4
Hero raises $0.75, Button calls $0.75, 2 folds

Flop: ($1.85) K, 8, 9 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $0.88, Hero calls $0.88

Turn: ($3.61) 5 (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $2.57, Hero calls $2.57

River: ($8.75) Q (2 players)
Hero checks, Button bets $4.16, Hero raises $10, 1 fold

Total pot: $17.07


Hero had A, 4 (high card, Ace).
Outcome: Hero won $22.06
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04-20-2016 , 04:38 PM
seems bad tbh, though I suspect his river sizing is just bare Kx 100% of the time so it might be fine for that reason

consider bet flop overbet turn vs that strat
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04-20-2016 , 04:47 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
seems bad tbh, though I suspect his river sizing is just bare Kx 100% of the time so it might be fine for that reason

consider bet flop overbet turn vs that strat
I don't even think he has Kx to be honest.
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04-20-2016 , 05:47 PM
really tough to see what else he has which b/f river this size... like AJ I guess
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04-21-2016 , 03:51 AM
He just constantly tries to take people off hands. I don't think he's even bothered with his own holding in this spot.
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04-21-2016 , 05:01 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDefiniteArticle
though I suspect his river sizing is just bare Kx 100% of the time so it might be fine for that reason
Seems fine for this reason yes.
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04-21-2016 , 12:16 PM
If I got him off a bare king then I'm happy with that but I was mainly trying to fold out all the other crap he has, hence the smallish raise size.
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04-22-2016 , 06:20 PM
I just received my Pokermetrics stuff today. The spreadsheet shows various spots and how my frequencies and winrate compare to winning regs. If I had to take a guess I'd say there are over 1000 different situations listed. It could be pretty damn overwhelming but thankfully it also includes a couple of videos from Alan Jackson going over the areas that seem to be my biggest leaks and how to solve them. Really looking forward to going over them in detail over the weekend and implementing some things.
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04-24-2016 , 08:02 AM
So I've started implementing some of the things I've posted about above. Basically my non showdown losses are way higher than they should be. I kinda new this was the case and I've been able to get away with it at FR but at 6 max I really need to be playing a number of spots better. I'm not looking to become some redline warrior but I've got a target to achieve in terms of how much I should be losing and I'll be working towards this while trying to maintain sd winnings.

It's very early days but as you can see from the graph below for the month the losses have levelled off for the last couple of sessions I've played.

Note this isn't losses for the month, it's non showdown losses only.

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04-24-2016 , 10:25 AM
Looks like some significant changes are working mate. As long as your green line isn't suffering it looks like you're doing something right!
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04-24-2016 , 12:20 PM
PM me some of this advice Husker to save me from any possible future distress at 6 max
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04-24-2016 , 12:26 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by BenaBadBeat
Looks like some significant changes are working mate. As long as your green line isn't suffering it looks like you're doing something right!
I'll be keeping an eye on my SD winnings. I expect them to drop a bit but I've been given a range of figures that are considered good so as long as my SD winnings remain in that range I should hopefully be okay.
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04-24-2016 , 03:11 PM
Since you're using HM2, filter for pots "won or lost less than 4bb" and see how you fare in all positions. A sample of atleast 50k hands should do. Post it here if you wish and it would be good discussion.

As always Go Husker!!
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04-24-2016 , 04:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Squanderer
Since you're using HM2, filter for pots "won or lost less than 4bb" and see how you fare in all positions. A sample of atleast 50k hands should do. Post it here if you wish and it would be good discussion.

As always Go Husker!!
Okay



This is one of the areas that I expect to see a bit of an improvement in.
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04-24-2016 , 06:07 PM
Interesting, subbed and gl.
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04-25-2016 , 03:41 AM
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Originally Posted by jalfrezi
Interesting, subbed and gl.
Thanks and welcome.
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