Oh man I love thessaloniki. If you didn't go when you were there, make sure to check out King Philips Tomb if you have any interest in historical sites, it is breathtaking.
Hey been following your thread for a bit now and I can relate alot to your situation.
I play and crush 100 PLO and find it hard for me to move up to 200 PLO even though I 10000% should (over-rolled and the skill level is almost identical).
Glad to hear your going to start moving up indefinitely. It motivates me to do the same within this month unless a doomswitch.
GL at the tables and look forward to your updates.
Oh man I love thessaloniki. If you didn't go when you were there, make sure to check out King Philips Tomb if you have any interest in historical sites, it is breathtaking.
I will do next time! Kinda itching to go back for another week already
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I think its a good combo to c/r and i will go for 3x size ish.
What times are you playing? Didnt see you at the tables lately
Yo, playing other main sites and not PS, gonna make a return at 500+ though for some table selection hows the grind going there?
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Hey been following your thread for a bit now and I can relate alot to your situation.
I play and crush 100 PLO and find it hard for me to move up to 200 PLO even though I 10000% should (over-rolled and the skill level is almost identical).
Glad to hear your going to start moving up indefinitely. It motivates me to do the same within this month unless a doomswitch.
GL at the tables and look forward to your updates.
Hey man, I feel you. Although looking back I only played 100plo for like 5-6 months so seems fine to me, I guess I coulda moved up faster though. Swings are bigger but just relative to the $ and yeh games arent much different, couple more regs who play slightly better. glgl moving up!
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Really nice to see your progress and hands you have played. Keep going!
Thanks man, enjoying your thread too!
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Another meh session, games were unbelievable just couldnt hold or got coolered over and over. EV dsnt represent it that much either, lots of guys just peeling 4bets with junk and flopping nuts I did win my biggest pot though.
Preflop: Hero is MP with J A A 2
UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $9, CO folds, BTN raises to $32, SB calls $31, 2 folds, Hero raises to $132, BTN folds, SB calls $100
Flop: ($300) 2 J 9 (2 players)
SB bets $300, Hero calls $299.05 and is all-in
Turn: ($898.10) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in) River: ($898.10) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $898.10 pot ($4.00 rake)
Final Board: 2 J 9 4 6
SB showed 8 Q A Q and won $0.00 (-$431.05 net)
Hero mucked J A A 2 and won $894.10 ($463.05 net)
such a sick spot 50% equity otf, just about no spades out there
Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 Q K Q
UTG raises to $7, MP calls $7, CO calls $7, BTN folds, Hero calls $6, BB raises to $42, UTG calls $35, MP calls $35, CO calls $35, Hero calls $35
Flop: ($210) A 3 2 (5 players)
Hero checks, BB bets $210, UTG calls $155 and is all-in, MP calls $139 and is all-in, CO folds, Hero calls $158 and is all-in
Turn: ($820) J (4 players, 3 are all-in) River: ($820) 3 (4 players, 3 are all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $820 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: A 3 2 J 3
Hero mucked 9 Q K Q and lost (-$200 net)
BB showed A 9 7 T and won $54 (-$146 net)
UTG showed 5 6 A 7 and lost (-$197 net)
MP showed 4 A 2 K and won $762 ($581 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$42 net)
Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 5 A 8
3 folds, Hero raises to $7, SB raises to $23, BB folds, Hero raises to $71, SB raises to $198.43 and is all-in, Hero calls $127.43
Flop: ($398.86) T Q J (2 players, 1 is all-in) Turn: ($398.86) T (2 players, 1 is all-in) River: ($398.86) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $398.86 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: T Q J T 7
SB showed A A 6 T and won $394.86 ($196.43 net)
Hero mucked A 5 A 8 and lost (-$198.43 net)
Hey been following your thread for a bit now and I can relate alot to your situation.
I play and crush 100 PLO and find it hard for me to move up to 200 PLO even though I 10000% should (over-rolled and the skill level is almost identical).
Glad to hear your going to start moving up indefinitely. It motivates me to do the same within this month unless a doomswitch.
GL at the tables and look forward to your updates.
The only level I can beat this month and overall is PLO200
Results: $56 pot ($2.80 rake)
Final Board: 2 5 Q Q J
Hero mucked 8 9 9 5 and won $53.20 ($25.20 net)
BB showed T 3 7 A and lost (-$28 net)
Still struggling to put together a decent winning session at 200 but playing very solid and kinda breaking even for now. Studying every single day at the moment with a mix of hand reviews for spots that cant be solved as easily, solver work and revision/drilling.
That second hand is gross but whenever i see things like that it reminds me that theres still $$$ in poker
Big fan of this thread hope to see you crush 200 PLO like you did 100 PLO
Yeah get this kind of thing quite a lot and it sux when you dont win many of them during some stretches. Thanks, gl to you too!
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So played 8 days in a row this month since I was away for the first part of the month and going away again tmoro for a 6 days. Totally removed 100, feeling very good at 200. Have even been reg battling occasionally and no one seems tough, just havnt been able to hold in many spots with decent equity vs fish.
Month so far + 450 rb
Had a couple days in there where I lost stack after stack in the first 30min and regrinded back somehow.
200 this year, looks a bit better since I won a bit the last couple months there when adding good tables
Got back from Cannes yesterday, 2 holidays this month feeling ready to crush some souls again. Cannes is quite Hollywood - i think thats the term id use buy very cool and would visit again for sure. Just like Greece, the beaches were super clear, lots of fish swimming around and the water was very warm. We did all the touristy stuff, red carpet, went to Casino de Cannes (only NL running tho ate tons of fresh seafood and had some nice cocktails in the evening at the beach bars.
Few not so pro pics again have plenty more from the old town, food etc but need to load them first and might post later
Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 K A 5
MP folds, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $9, SB folds, BB calls $7, CO calls $7
Flop: ($28) K Q 7 (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero checks
Turn: ($28) 4 (3 players)
BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $18.76, BB raises to $84.28, CO folds, Hero raises to $216.75 and is all-in, BB calls $132.47
River: ($461.50) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $461.50 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: K Q 7 4 5
BB showed 8 J T 8 and lost (-$225.75 net)
CO mucked and lost (-$9 net)
Hero mucked 7 K A 5 and won $457.50 ($231.75 net)
Interesting flop check with kings and sevens. Heads up I think a solver would bet this in position (obviously we don't have to play like solvers) since we can push a lot of equity on this dry board and you just don't have that many types of strong hands given board texture. OTOH if you can get people to spew like that maybe checking flop is best! And obviously three way dynamics are different from heads up play. I really dislike BB's turn play, I mean he has a clear check and call with that hand. A decent amount of equity and outs, might want to bluff the river if a 5 or 6 comes in (although this is a really bad river bluffing candidate because he has flush draw and straight draw), but not really a hand that wants to play a massive pot. Not a strong enough hand to push equity, and far too strong to bluff with (a hand like JJA9 w/ the dry ace of clubs would make a nice check raise bluff candidate if he thought you were bluffing or weak semi bluffing a lot, very little equity but great removal effect).
Nice pics and very good looking PLO200 graph.Wish I could make the same..
Hey man, hows it going? study hard and graphs will come
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Interesting flop check with kings and sevens. Heads up I think a solver would bet this in position (obviously we don't have to play like solvers) since we can push a lot of equity on this dry board and you just don't have that many types of strong hands given board texture. OTOH if you can get people to spew like that maybe checking flop is best! And obviously three way dynamics are different from heads up play. I really dislike BB's turn play, I mean he has a clear check and call with that hand. A decent amount of equity and outs, might want to bluff the river if a 5 or 6 comes in (although this is a really bad river bluffing candidate because he has flush draw and straight draw), but not really a hand that wants to play a massive pot. Not a strong enough hand to push equity, and far too strong to bluff with (a hand like JJA9 w/ the dry ace of clubs would make a nice check raise bluff candidate if he thought you were bluffing or weak semi bluffing a lot, very little equity but great removal effect).
Flop check is kind standard here even HU, if you run some sims here top and bottom tends to check more than cbet. So 3 way its almost always gonna be a check I think. Kinda agree with the rest of the analysis tho
Interesting flop check with kings and sevens. Heads up I think a solver would bet this in position (obviously we don't have to play like solvers) since we can push a lot of equity on this dry board and you just don't have that many types of strong hands given board texture. OTOH if you can get people to spew like that maybe checking flop is best! And obviously three way dynamics are different from heads up play. I really dislike BB's turn play, I mean he has a clear check and call with that hand. A decent amount of equity and outs, might want to bluff the river if a 5 or 6 comes in (although this is a really bad river bluffing candidate because he has flush draw and straight draw), but not really a hand that wants to play a massive pot. Not a strong enough hand to push equity, and far too strong to bluff with (a hand like JJA9 w/ the dry ace of clubs would make a nice check raise bluff candidate if he thought you were bluffing or weak semi bluffing a lot, very little equity but great removal effect).
Checked vision and it's 98% check. KQ8r as KQ7 not available.
Preflop: Hero is BB with A K K 5
MP folds, CO raises to $4, BTN folds, SB raises to $14, Hero raises to $46, CO raises to $46.99 and is all-in, SB calls $32.99, Hero calls $0.99
Flop: ($140.97) K 2 T (3 players, 1 is all-in)
SB checks, Hero bets $140.97, SB raises to $165.51 and is all-in, Hero calls $24.54
Turn: ($471.99) A (3 players, 2 are all-in) River: ($471.99) 8 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $471.99 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: K 2 T A 8
SB showed Q T 7 J and won $467.99 ($255.49 net)
Hero mucked A K K 5 and lost (-$212.50 net)
CO showed 9 Q A 8 and lost (-$46.99 net)
yah you guys are right, I even played around with some settings changing board cards and different positions and top and bottom seems to be overwhelmingly a check. I guess we want to use top and bottom as one of our main protects, because it pushes less equity than stronger made hands so we are giving up less by playing it passively. And our range / polarity advantage isn't strong enough to where we can bet our entire range, we still have to do quite a bit of checking.
yah you guys are right, I even played around with some settings changing board cards and different positions and top and bottom seems to be overwhelmingly a check. I guess we want to use top and bottom as one of our main protects, because it pushes less equity than stronger made hands so we are giving up less by playing it passively. And our range / polarity advantage isn't strong enough to where we can bet our entire range, we still have to do quite a bit of checking.
That's true. I started thinking about this spot and wondered if multiway then we may be more inclined to bet and try to take it down as we are more vulnerable versus 2 ranges. I for sure like a check HU as we have a great call down hand and strengthens our flop checking range.
That's true. I started thinking about this spot and wondered if multiway then we may be more inclined to bet and try to take it down as we are more vulnerable versus 2 ranges. I for sure like a check HU as we have a great call down hand and strengthens our flop checking range.
This could be a thing (the hand is still sort of vulnerable hu too) - but intuitively, I still think checking is the line I prefer. I dont have multiway sims so I cant say with certainty. I still think we need to consider run outs/board coverage/equity, the fact we are multiway, and we do have a strong bdfd which gives us some extra/nice realization as the hand played out. It feels like betting bloats the pot with a hand which doesnt really want to over multiple streets.
There could be some nuanced bet (sacrifice) type things with some K7RR type things ie (K788ds) but not too interested in hunting those (for now)
No real cool hands today, got kinda frustrated in a few spots where I wasnt sure on the most +ev line vs certain players. Gonna chill and watch a bit of Galfond challenge.
Lower frequency 3b here, think im meant to pot river blocking the Q but gave up due to him being whale/station. Annoying though think it should still be decent
Preflop: Hero is UTG with K Q Q 8
Hero raises to $7, MP folds, CO calls $7, BTN folds, SB raises to $30, BB folds, Hero calls $23, CO calls $20.27 and is all-in
Flop: ($89.27) 6 8 J (3 players, 1 is all-in)
SB bets $89.27, Hero raises to $269.31 and is all-in, SB calls $65.73 and is all-in
Turn: ($399.27) Q (3 players, 3 are all-in) River: ($399.27) J (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $399.27 pot ($4.00 rake)
Final Board: 6 8 J Q J
SB showed T A J K and lost (-$185 net)
Hero mucked K Q Q 8 and won $395.27 ($210.27 net)
CO showed 9 A 5 6 and lost (-$27.27 net)
Nothing much happening lately, grinding along will post results end of month. In other news, my flatmate/neighbour spins pro comes knocking loudly on my door, im like wassup? he can barely talk, binked the big jackpot for lots of monies.
Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 5 3 A
UTG calls $2, MP raises to $6, CO raises to $23, Hero raises to $80, SB folds, BB calls $78, 2 folds, CO calls $51.90 and is all-in
Flop: ($243.90) 9 T 8 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
BB checks, Hero bets $38, BB raises to $200.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $162.80
Turn: ($645.50) 4 (3 players, 2 are all-in) River: ($645.50) 2 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $645.50 pot ($4 rake)
Final Board: 9 T 8 4 2
BB showed 8 6 7 5 and lost (-$280.80 net)
CO showed Q Q 8 K and lost (-$74.90 net)
Hero mucked A 5 3 A and won $641.50 ($360.70 net)
another big one vs couple spazzers - wanted to ram over bb sqz here but went for the meh call and then call off
Preflop: Hero is UTG with A J J 4
Hero raises to $7, MP folds, CO calls $7, BTN calls $7, SB folds, BB raises to $36, Hero calls $29, CO calls $29, BTN raises to $126.17 and is all-in, BB raises to $289.73 and is all-in, Hero calls $164 and is all-in, CO folds
Flop: ($563.17) Q 7 5 (3 players, 3 are all-in) Turn: ($563.17) 8 (3 players, 3 are all-in) River: ($563.17) 2 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
Spoiler:
Results: $563.17 pot ($4.00 rake)
Final Board: Q 7 5 8 2
BB showed 8 9 T K and lost (-$200 net)
Hero mucked A J J 4 and won $559.17 ($359.17 net)
BTN showed 4 J 4 T and lost (-$126.17 net)
Qx barely infrequently as IP has few Qx combos in his range after calling flop. Also want to be barrelling the broadway gutshots over the lower ones. Any "bluff" combo that doesn't have Ax is likely to be infrequently betting. Also consider that this turn is good for your range and you will have a lot of better Qx hands to barrel (KKQx, QJJx, Q:wrap)
Nice one S1C..I guess the Q976ds I would check/fold the turn after he calls the flop. Not sure, if a 2nd barrel works here...
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Qx barely infrequently as IP has few Qx combos in his range after calling flop. Also want to be barrelling the broadway gutshots over the lower ones. Any "bluff" combo that doesn't have Ax is likely to be infrequently betting. Also consider that this turn is good for your range and you will have a lot of better Qx hands to barrel (KKQx, QJJx, Q:wrap)
Hey guys, only had a quick look for turn play didnt end up checking river. Seems like our combo bets, Fitz I think Qx is a relatively high % turn bet even the very worst Qx excluding any gutter which is rare not to have (like we do). Ill have a look at river later on, seems like a good spot to ram even from an exploitative standpoint vs reg - maybe not vs donk tho.