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09-08-2020 , 05:18 AM
Oh man I love thessaloniki. If you didn't go when you were there, make sure to check out King Philips Tomb if you have any interest in historical sites, it is breathtaking.
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09-08-2020 , 12:57 PM
I think its a good combo to c/r and i will go for 3x size ish.
What times are you playing? Didnt see you at the tables lately
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09-08-2020 , 07:08 PM
Hey been following your thread for a bit now and I can relate alot to your situation.

I play and crush 100 PLO and find it hard for me to move up to 200 PLO even though I 10000% should (over-rolled and the skill level is almost identical).

Glad to hear your going to start moving up indefinitely. It motivates me to do the same within this month unless a doomswitch.

GL at the tables and look forward to your updates.
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09-08-2020 , 11:38 PM
Really nice to see your progress and hands you have played. Keep going!
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09-09-2020 , 04:35 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Arxontas
Oh man I love thessaloniki. If you didn't go when you were there, make sure to check out King Philips Tomb if you have any interest in historical sites, it is breathtaking.
I will do next time! Kinda itching to go back for another week already

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Originally Posted by Broederliefde
I think its a good combo to c/r and i will go for 3x size ish.
What times are you playing? Didnt see you at the tables lately
Yo, playing other main sites and not PS, gonna make a return at 500+ though for some table selection hows the grind going there?

Quote:
Originally Posted by whyem
Hey been following your thread for a bit now and I can relate alot to your situation.

I play and crush 100 PLO and find it hard for me to move up to 200 PLO even though I 10000% should (over-rolled and the skill level is almost identical).

Glad to hear your going to start moving up indefinitely. It motivates me to do the same within this month unless a doomswitch.

GL at the tables and look forward to your updates.
Hey man, I feel you. Although looking back I only played 100plo for like 5-6 months so seems fine to me, I guess I coulda moved up faster though. Swings are bigger but just relative to the $ and yeh games arent much different, couple more regs who play slightly better. glgl moving up!

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Originally Posted by MartinK1979
Really nice to see your progress and hands you have played. Keep going!
Thanks man, enjoying your thread too!

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Another meh session, games were unbelievable just couldnt hold or got coolered over and over. EV dsnt represent it that much either, lots of guys just peeling 4bets with junk and flopping nuts I did win my biggest pot though.

    $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

    SB: $843.32 (421.7 bb)
    BB: $200 (100 bb)
    UTG: $244.07 (122 bb)
    Hero (MP): $431.05 (215.5 bb)
    CO: $200 (100 bb)
    BTN: $245 (122.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is MP with J A A 2
    UTG calls $2, Hero raises to $9, CO folds, BTN raises to $32, SB calls $31, 2 folds, Hero raises to $132, BTN folds, SB calls $100

    Flop: ($300) 2 J 9 (2 players)
    SB bets $300, Hero calls $299.05 and is all-in

    Turn: ($898.10) 4 (2 players, 1 is all-in)
    River: ($898.10) 6 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

    Spoiler:
    Results: $898.10 pot ($4.00 rake)
    Final Board: 2 J 9 4 6
    SB showed 8 Q A Q and won $0.00 (-$431.05 net)
    Hero mucked J A A 2 and won $894.10 ($463.05 net)


    such a sick spot 50% equity otf, just about no spades out there

      $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

      Hero (SB): $200 (100 bb)
      BB: $256.75 (128.4 bb)
      UTG: $197 (98.5 bb)
      MP: $181 (90.5 bb)
      CO: $83 (41.5 bb)
      BTN: $254 (127 bb)

      Preflop: Hero is SB with 9 Q K Q
      UTG raises to $7, MP calls $7, CO calls $7, BTN folds, Hero calls $6, BB raises to $42, UTG calls $35, MP calls $35, CO calls $35, Hero calls $35

      Flop: ($210) A 3 2 (5 players)
      Hero checks, BB bets $210, UTG calls $155 and is all-in, MP calls $139 and is all-in, CO folds, Hero calls $158 and is all-in

      Turn: ($820) J (4 players, 3 are all-in)
      River: ($820) 3 (4 players, 3 are all-in)

      Spoiler:
      Results: $820 pot ($4 rake)
      Final Board: A 3 2 J 3
      Hero mucked 9 Q K Q and lost (-$200 net)
      BB showed A 9 7 T and won $54 (-$146 net)
      UTG showed 5 6 A 7 and lost (-$197 net)
      MP showed 4 A 2 K and won $762 ($581 net)
      CO mucked and lost (-$42 net)


      few of these

        $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

        SB: $198.43 (99.2 bb)
        BB: $262.39 (131.2 bb)
        UTG: $266.95 (133.5 bb)
        MP: $317.33 (158.7 bb)
        CO: $218.30 (109.2 bb)
        Hero (BTN): $228.39 (114.2 bb)

        Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 5 A 8
        3 folds, Hero raises to $7, SB raises to $23, BB folds, Hero raises to $71, SB raises to $198.43 and is all-in, Hero calls $127.43

        Flop: ($398.86) T Q J (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        Turn: ($398.86) T (2 players, 1 is all-in)
        River: ($398.86) 7 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

        Spoiler:
        Results: $398.86 pot ($4 rake)
        Final Board: T Q J T 7
        SB showed A A 6 T and won $394.86 ($196.43 net)
        Hero mucked A 5 A 8 and lost (-$198.43 net)
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        09-11-2020 , 02:56 PM
        Quote:
        Originally Posted by whyem
        Hey been following your thread for a bit now and I can relate alot to your situation.

        I play and crush 100 PLO and find it hard for me to move up to 200 PLO even though I 10000% should (over-rolled and the skill level is almost identical).

        Glad to hear your going to start moving up indefinitely. It motivates me to do the same within this month unless a doomswitch.

        GL at the tables and look forward to your updates.

        The only level I can beat this month and overall is PLO200
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        09-11-2020 , 04:04 PM
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        Originally Posted by MartinK1979
        The only level I can beat this month and overall is PLO200
        Martin takin over my thread


        few more hands from past 2 days

        errrm, wtf u doing bro

          $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
          Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

          SB: $188.60 (94.3 bb)
          BB: $194.95 (97.5 bb)
          UTG: $197.50 (98.8 bb)
          MP: $178.15 (89.1 bb)
          Hero (CO): $200 (100 bb)
          BTN: $228 (114 bb)

          Preflop: Hero is CO with 2 K 2 K
          UTG raises to $7, MP folds, Hero calls $7, 2 folds, BB raises to $29, UTG folds, Hero calls $22

          Flop: ($66) 9 K 7 (2 players)
          BB bets $66, Hero raises to $171 and is all-in, BB calls $99.95 and is all-in

          Turn: ($397.90) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
          River: ($397.90) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)

          Spoiler:
          Results: $397.90 pot ($4.00 rake)
          Final Board: 9 K 7 6 A
          BB showed 5 9 2 8 and won $393.90 ($198.95 net)
          Hero mucked 2 K 2 K and lost (-$194.95 net)


          same guy

            $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
            Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

            Hero (SB): $200 (100 bb)
            BB: $68 (34 bb)
            UTG: $489.95 (245 bb)
            MP: $252.83 (126.4 bb)
            CO: $121.25 (60.6 bb)
            BTN: $704.03 (352 bb)

            Preflop: Hero is SB with 5 K K A
            UTG calls $2, MP raises to $9, 2 folds, Hero raises to $31, 2 folds, MP calls $22

            Flop: ($66) 3 4 A (2 players)
            Hero bets $66, MP raises to $221.83 and is all-in, Hero calls $103 and is all-in

            Turn: ($404) 4 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
            River: ($404) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

            Spoiler:
            Results: $404 pot ($4.00 rake)
            Final Board: 3 4 A 4 9
            Hero mucked 5 K K A and won $400 ($200 net)
            MP showed J 7 A 2 and lost (-$200 net)


            calldowns vs regs

              $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
              Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

              Hero (SB): $222.80 (111.4 bb)
              BB: $77 (38.5 bb)
              UTG: $206 (103 bb)
              MP: $233.90 (117 bb)
              CO: $326.67 (163.3 bb)
              BTN: $117.60 (58.8 bb)

              Preflop: Hero is SB with 8 9 9 5
              4 folds, Hero completes, BB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

              Flop: ($12) 2 5 Q (2 players)
              Hero checks, BB checks

              Turn: ($12) Q (2 players)
              Hero checks, BB bets $8, Hero calls $8

              River: ($28) J (2 players)
              Hero checks, BB bets $14, Hero calls $14

              Spoiler:
              Results: $56 pot ($2.80 rake)
              Final Board: 2 5 Q Q J
              Hero mucked 8 9 9 5 and won $53.20 ($25.20 net)
              BB showed T 3 7 A and lost (-$28 net)


              Still struggling to put together a decent winning session at 200 but playing very solid and kinda breaking even for now. Studying every single day at the moment with a mix of hand reviews for spots that cant be solved as easily, solver work and revision/drilling.
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              09-12-2020 , 04:24 PM
              Few more from today

              ups

                $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
                Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                SB: $200 (100 bb)
                BB: $254.30 (127.2 bb)
                Hero (CO): $320.75 (160.4 bb)
                BTN: $202.97 (101.5 bb)

                Preflop: Hero is CO with 2 K Q J
                Hero raises to $7, BTN folds, SB raises to $23, BB folds, Hero calls $16

                Flop: ($48) 7 5 J (2 players)
                SB bets $48, Hero calls $48

                Turn: ($144) 6 (2 players)
                SB checks, Hero checks

                River: ($144) 9 (2 players)
                SB checks, Hero bets $144, SB calls $129 and is all-in

                Spoiler:
                Results: $402 pot ($4 rake)
                Final Board: 7 5 J 6 9
                SB showed A K 4 8 and won $398 ($198 net)
                Hero mucked 2 K Q J and lost (-$200 net)


                got em

                  $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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                  SB: $239.48 (119.7 bb)
                  BB: $396.27 (198.1 bb)
                  MP: $209.15 (104.6 bb)
                  CO: $198.05 (99 bb)
                  Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)

                  Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 J 7 J
                  MP raises to $7, CO folds, Hero raises to $24, 2 folds, MP raises to $75, Hero calls $51

                  Flop: ($153) 9 6 9 (2 players)
                  MP bets $134.15 and is all-in, Hero calls $125 and is all-in

                  Turn: ($403) 5 (2 players, 2 are all-in)
                  River: ($403) 9 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

                  Spoiler:
                  Results: $403 pot ($4 rake)
                  Final Board: 9 6 9 5 9
                  MP showed T K 6 8 and lost (-$200 net)
                  Hero mucked 7 J 7 J and won $399 ($199 net)


                  why

                    $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
                    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                    SB: $468.78 (234.4 bb)
                    BB: $206 (103 bb)
                    MP: $194.95 (97.5 bb)
                    CO: $520.53 (260.3 bb)
                    Hero (BTN): $200 (100 bb)

                    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A A 5 T
                    MP raises to $7, CO calls $7, Hero raises to $31, 2 folds, MP calls $24, CO folds

                    Flop: ($72) 2 5 Q (2 players)
                    MP bets $72, Hero raises to $169 and is all-in, MP calls $91.95 and is all-in

                    Turn: ($399.90) J (2 players, 2 are all-in)
                    River: ($399.90) T (2 players, 2 are all-in)

                    Spoiler:
                    Results: $399.90 pot ($4.00 rake)
                    Final Board: 2 5 Q J T
                    MP showed 5 J 8 7 and won $395.90 ($200.95 net)
                    Hero mucked A A 5 T and lost (-$194.95 net)


                    got em

                      $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
                      Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                      SB: $368.57 (184.3 bb)
                      Hero (BB): $308.47 (154.2 bb)
                      MP: $225.30 (112.7 bb)
                      CO: $100 (50 bb)
                      BTN: $509.55 (254.8 bb)

                      Preflop: Hero is BB with J 3 9 Q
                      3 folds, SB raises to $6, Hero calls $4

                      Flop: ($12) J 4 6 (2 players)
                      SB bets $8, Hero raises to $30, SB calls $22

                      Turn: ($72) 2 (2 players)
                      SB checks, Hero bets $72, SB folds

                      Spoiler:
                      Results: $72 pot ($3.60 rake)
                      Final Board: J 4 6 2
                      SB mucked and lost (-$36 net)
                      Hero mucked J 3 9 Q and won $68.40 ($32.40 net)
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                      09-12-2020 , 09:38 PM
                      That second hand is gross but whenever i see things like that it reminds me that theres still $$$ in poker

                      Big fan of this thread hope to see you crush 200 PLO like you did 100 PLO
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                      09-13-2020 , 03:07 PM
                      Quote:
                      Originally Posted by iamayes
                      That second hand is gross but whenever i see things like that it reminds me that theres still $$$ in poker

                      Big fan of this thread hope to see you crush 200 PLO like you did 100 PLO
                      Yeah get this kind of thing quite a lot and it sux when you dont win many of them during some stretches. Thanks, gl to you too!

                      -------------------

                      So played 8 days in a row this month since I was away for the first part of the month and going away again tmoro for a 6 days. Totally removed 100, feeling very good at 200. Have even been reg battling occasionally and no one seems tough, just havnt been able to hold in many spots with decent equity vs fish.

                      Month so far + 450 rb

                      Had a couple days in there where I lost stack after stack in the first 30min and regrinded back somehow.



                      200 this year, looks a bit better since I won a bit the last couple months there when adding good tables

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                      09-20-2020 , 03:34 PM
                      Got back from Cannes yesterday, 2 holidays this month feeling ready to crush some souls again. Cannes is quite Hollywood - i think thats the term id use buy very cool and would visit again for sure. Just like Greece, the beaches were super clear, lots of fish swimming around and the water was very warm. We did all the touristy stuff, red carpet, went to Casino de Cannes (only NL running tho ate tons of fresh seafood and had some nice cocktails in the evening at the beach bars.

                      Few not so pro pics again have plenty more from the old town, food etc but need to load them first and might post later

























                      had a solid welcome back today from regs

                        $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
                        Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite.

                        SB: $228.89 (114.4 bb)
                        BB: $832.30 (416.2 bb)
                        MP: $250.15 (125.1 bb)
                        CO: $156.25 (78.1 bb)
                        Hero (BTN): $225.75 (112.9 bb)

                        Preflop: Hero is BTN with 7 K A 5
                        MP folds, CO calls $2, Hero raises to $9, SB folds, BB calls $7, CO calls $7

                        Flop: ($28) K Q 7 (3 players)
                        BB checks, CO checks, Hero checks

                        Turn: ($28) 4 (3 players)
                        BB checks, CO checks, Hero bets $18.76, BB raises to $84.28, CO folds, Hero raises to $216.75 and is all-in, BB calls $132.47

                        River: ($461.50) 5 (2 players, 1 is all-in)

                        Spoiler:
                        Results: $461.50 pot ($4 rake)
                        Final Board: K Q 7 4 5
                        BB showed 8 J T 8 and lost (-$225.75 net)
                        CO mucked and lost (-$9 net)
                        Hero mucked 7 K A 5 and won $457.50 ($231.75 net)


                        glgl
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                        09-21-2020 , 01:41 AM
                        Nice pics and very good looking PLO200 graph.Wish I could make the same..
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                        09-21-2020 , 04:27 AM
                        Interesting flop check with kings and sevens. Heads up I think a solver would bet this in position (obviously we don't have to play like solvers) since we can push a lot of equity on this dry board and you just don't have that many types of strong hands given board texture. OTOH if you can get people to spew like that maybe checking flop is best! And obviously three way dynamics are different from heads up play. I really dislike BB's turn play, I mean he has a clear check and call with that hand. A decent amount of equity and outs, might want to bluff the river if a 5 or 6 comes in (although this is a really bad river bluffing candidate because he has flush draw and straight draw), but not really a hand that wants to play a massive pot. Not a strong enough hand to push equity, and far too strong to bluff with (a hand like JJA9 w/ the dry ace of clubs would make a nice check raise bluff candidate if he thought you were bluffing or weak semi bluffing a lot, very little equity but great removal effect).
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                        09-21-2020 , 01:46 PM
                        welcome back and GL at the tables
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                        09-21-2020 , 01:47 PM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by MartinK1979
                        Nice pics and very good looking PLO200 graph.Wish I could make the same..
                        Hey man, hows it going? study hard and graphs will come

                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
                        Interesting flop check with kings and sevens. Heads up I think a solver would bet this in position (obviously we don't have to play like solvers) since we can push a lot of equity on this dry board and you just don't have that many types of strong hands given board texture. OTOH if you can get people to spew like that maybe checking flop is best! And obviously three way dynamics are different from heads up play. I really dislike BB's turn play, I mean he has a clear check and call with that hand. A decent amount of equity and outs, might want to bluff the river if a 5 or 6 comes in (although this is a really bad river bluffing candidate because he has flush draw and straight draw), but not really a hand that wants to play a massive pot. Not a strong enough hand to push equity, and far too strong to bluff with (a hand like JJA9 w/ the dry ace of clubs would make a nice check raise bluff candidate if he thought you were bluffing or weak semi bluffing a lot, very little equity but great removal effect).
                        Flop check is kind standard here even HU, if you run some sims here top and bottom tends to check more than cbet. So 3 way its almost always gonna be a check I think. Kinda agree with the rest of the analysis tho
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                        09-21-2020 , 03:35 PM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
                        Interesting flop check with kings and sevens. Heads up I think a solver would bet this in position (obviously we don't have to play like solvers) since we can push a lot of equity on this dry board and you just don't have that many types of strong hands given board texture. OTOH if you can get people to spew like that maybe checking flop is best! And obviously three way dynamics are different from heads up play. I really dislike BB's turn play, I mean he has a clear check and call with that hand. A decent amount of equity and outs, might want to bluff the river if a 5 or 6 comes in (although this is a really bad river bluffing candidate because he has flush draw and straight draw), but not really a hand that wants to play a massive pot. Not a strong enough hand to push equity, and far too strong to bluff with (a hand like JJA9 w/ the dry ace of clubs would make a nice check raise bluff candidate if he thought you were bluffing or weak semi bluffing a lot, very little equity but great removal effect).

                        Checked vision and it's 98% check. KQ8r as KQ7 not available.
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                        09-21-2020 , 04:09 PM
                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by iamayes
                        welcome back and GL at the tables
                        Thanks bro, keep crushing it.

                        Quote:
                        Originally Posted by PLOPLOPLOP
                        Checked vision and it's 98% check. KQ8r as KQ7 not available.
                        Yep, most of these spots play as x back.

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                        swingy one today, couple fun hands

                        reg

                          $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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                          SB: $372.93 (186.5 bb)
                          BB: $288.97 (144.5 bb)
                          MP: $245.30 (122.7 bb)
                          CO: $261.07 (130.5 bb)
                          Hero (BTN): $405.46 (202.7 bb)

                          Preflop: Hero is BTN with 8 A 9 6
                          MP raises to $7, CO folds, Hero raises to $24, 2 folds, MP calls $17

                          Flop: ($51) 5 3 7 (2 players)
                          MP checks, Hero bets $25.50, MP raises to $127.50, Hero raises to $381.46 and is all-in, MP calls $93.80 and is all-in

                          Turn: ($493.60) A (2 players, 2 are all-in)
                          River: ($493.60) 6 (2 players, 2 are all-in)

                          Spoiler:
                          Results: $493.60 pot ($4 rake)
                          Final Board: 5 3 7 A 6
                          MP showed Q J 2 7 and lost (-$245.30 net)
                          Hero mucked 8 A 9 6 and won $489.60 ($244.30 net)


                          not reg

                            $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 5 Players
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                            SB: $212.50 (106.3 bb)
                            Hero (BB): $251.45 (125.7 bb)
                            MP: $208.60 (104.3 bb)
                            CO: $46.99 (23.5 bb)
                            BTN: $507.10 (253.6 bb)

                            Preflop: Hero is BB with A K K 5
                            MP folds, CO raises to $4, BTN folds, SB raises to $14, Hero raises to $46, CO raises to $46.99 and is all-in, SB calls $32.99, Hero calls $0.99

                            Flop: ($140.97) K 2 T (3 players, 1 is all-in)
                            SB checks, Hero bets $140.97, SB raises to $165.51 and is all-in, Hero calls $24.54

                            Turn: ($471.99) A (3 players, 2 are all-in)
                            River: ($471.99) 8 (3 players, 2 are all-in)

                            Spoiler:
                            Results: $471.99 pot ($4 rake)
                            Final Board: K 2 T A 8
                            SB showed Q T 7 J and won $467.99 ($255.49 net)
                            Hero mucked A K K 5 and lost (-$212.50 net)
                            CO showed 9 Q A 8 and lost (-$46.99 net)


                            using them trap readz

                              $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 3 Players
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                              Hero (SB): $256.46 (128.2 bb)
                              BB: $200 (100 bb)
                              BTN: $91.20 (45.6 bb)

                              Preflop: Hero is SB with Q J A Q
                              BTN raises to $7, Hero raises to $23, BB folds, BTN calls $16

                              Flop: ($48) 7 6 K (2 players)
                              Hero checks, BTN checks

                              Turn: ($48) J (2 players)
                              Hero checks, BTN checks

                              River: ($48) K (2 players)
                              Hero checks, BTN bets $48, Hero calls $48

                              Spoiler:
                              Results: $144 pot ($4 rake)
                              Final Board: 7 6 K J K
                              Hero mucked Q J A Q and won $140 ($69 net)
                              BTN showed 2 7 5 8 and lost (-$71 net)
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                              09-21-2020 , 05:41 PM
                              Quote:
                              Flop check is kind standard here even HU
                              yah you guys are right, I even played around with some settings changing board cards and different positions and top and bottom seems to be overwhelmingly a check. I guess we want to use top and bottom as one of our main protects, because it pushes less equity than stronger made hands so we are giving up less by playing it passively. And our range / polarity advantage isn't strong enough to where we can bet our entire range, we still have to do quite a bit of checking.
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                              09-22-2020 , 02:29 PM
                              Quote:
                              Originally Posted by PokerPlayingGamble
                              yah you guys are right, I even played around with some settings changing board cards and different positions and top and bottom seems to be overwhelmingly a check. I guess we want to use top and bottom as one of our main protects, because it pushes less equity than stronger made hands so we are giving up less by playing it passively. And our range / polarity advantage isn't strong enough to where we can bet our entire range, we still have to do quite a bit of checking.
                              That's true. I started thinking about this spot and wondered if multiway then we may be more inclined to bet and try to take it down as we are more vulnerable versus 2 ranges. I for sure like a check HU as we have a great call down hand and strengthens our flop checking range.
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                              09-22-2020 , 03:56 PM
                              Quote:
                              Originally Posted by PLOPLOPLOP
                              That's true. I started thinking about this spot and wondered if multiway then we may be more inclined to bet and try to take it down as we are more vulnerable versus 2 ranges. I for sure like a check HU as we have a great call down hand and strengthens our flop checking range.
                              This could be a thing (the hand is still sort of vulnerable hu too) - but intuitively, I still think checking is the line I prefer. I dont have multiway sims so I cant say with certainty. I still think we need to consider run outs/board coverage/equity, the fact we are multiway, and we do have a strong bdfd which gives us some extra/nice realization as the hand played out. It feels like betting bloats the pot with a hand which doesnt really want to over multiple streets.

                              There could be some nuanced bet (sacrifice) type things with some K7RR type things ie (K788ds) but not too interested in hunting those (for now)
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                              09-23-2020 , 04:13 PM
                              No real cool hands today, got kinda frustrated in a few spots where I wasnt sure on the most +ev line vs certain players. Gonna chill and watch a bit of Galfond challenge.

                              Lower frequency 3b here, think im meant to pot river blocking the Q but gave up due to him being whale/station. Annoying though think it should still be decent

                                $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 4 Players
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                                Hero (SB): $200 (100 bb)
                                BB: $91.51 (45.8 bb)
                                CO: $144.13 (72.1 bb)
                                BTN: $241.21 (120.6 bb)

                                Preflop: Hero is SB with Q 9 7 6
                                CO folds, BTN raises to $7, Hero raises to $23, BB folds, BTN calls $16

                                Flop: ($48) A 8 4 (2 players)
                                Hero bets $15.84, BTN calls $15.84

                                Turn: ($79.68) Q (2 players)
                                Hero bets $39.84, BTN calls $39.84

                                River: ($159.36) 2 (2 players)
                                Hero checks, BTN checks

                                Spoiler:
                                Results: $159.36 pot ($4 rake)
                                Final Board: A 8 4 Q 2
                                Hero mucked Q 9 7 6 and lost (-$78.68 net)
                                BTN showed A 3 9 8 and won $155.36 ($76.68 net)


                                got there or held? lol vs regthing

                                  $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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                                  SB: $185 (92.5 bb)
                                  BB: $249.25 (124.6 bb)
                                  Hero (UTG): $299.31 (149.7 bb)
                                  MP: $108.70 (54.4 bb)
                                  CO: $27.27 (13.6 bb)
                                  BTN: $220.54 (110.3 bb)

                                  Preflop: Hero is UTG with K Q Q 8
                                  Hero raises to $7, MP folds, CO calls $7, BTN folds, SB raises to $30, BB folds, Hero calls $23, CO calls $20.27 and is all-in

                                  Flop: ($89.27) 6 8 J (3 players, 1 is all-in)
                                  SB bets $89.27, Hero raises to $269.31 and is all-in, SB calls $65.73 and is all-in

                                  Turn: ($399.27) Q (3 players, 3 are all-in)
                                  River: ($399.27) J (3 players, 3 are all-in)

                                  Spoiler:
                                  Results: $399.27 pot ($4.00 rake)
                                  Final Board: 6 8 J Q J
                                  SB showed T A J K and lost (-$185 net)
                                  Hero mucked K Q Q 8 and won $395.27 ($210.27 net)
                                  CO showed 9 A 5 6 and lost (-$27.27 net)
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                                  09-26-2020 , 02:05 PM
                                  Nothing much happening lately, grinding along will post results end of month. In other news, my flatmate/neighbour spins pro comes knocking loudly on my door, im like wassup? he can barely talk, binked the big jackpot for lots of monies.

                                  95% otf, dreammm

                                    $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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                                    SB: $458.72 (229.4 bb)
                                    BB: $280.80 (140.4 bb)
                                    UTG: $191 (95.5 bb)
                                    MP: $265.81 (132.9 bb)
                                    CO: $74.90 (37.5 bb)
                                    Hero (BTN): $673.23 (336.6 bb)

                                    Preflop: Hero is BTN with A 5 3 A
                                    UTG calls $2, MP raises to $6, CO raises to $23, Hero raises to $80, SB folds, BB calls $78, 2 folds, CO calls $51.90 and is all-in

                                    Flop: ($243.90) 9 T 8 (3 players, 1 is all-in)
                                    BB checks, Hero bets $38, BB raises to $200.80 and is all-in, Hero calls $162.80

                                    Turn: ($645.50) 4 (3 players, 2 are all-in)
                                    River: ($645.50) 2 (3 players, 2 are all-in)

                                    Spoiler:
                                    Results: $645.50 pot ($4 rake)
                                    Final Board: 9 T 8 4 2
                                    BB showed 8 6 7 5 and lost (-$280.80 net)
                                    CO showed Q Q 8 K and lost (-$74.90 net)
                                    Hero mucked A 5 3 A and won $641.50 ($360.70 net)


                                    another big one vs couple spazzers - wanted to ram over bb sqz here but went for the meh call and then call off

                                      $1/$2 Pot Limit Omaha Cash, 6 Players
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                                      SB: $357.32 (178.7 bb)
                                      BB: $289.73 (144.9 bb)
                                      Hero (UTG): $200 (100 bb)
                                      MP: $97 (48.5 bb)
                                      CO: $521.95 (261 bb)
                                      BTN: $126.17 (63.1 bb)

                                      Preflop: Hero is UTG with A J J 4
                                      Hero raises to $7, MP folds, CO calls $7, BTN calls $7, SB folds, BB raises to $36, Hero calls $29, CO calls $29, BTN raises to $126.17 and is all-in, BB raises to $289.73 and is all-in, Hero calls $164 and is all-in, CO folds

                                      Flop: ($563.17) Q 7 5 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
                                      Turn: ($563.17) 8 (3 players, 3 are all-in)
                                      River: ($563.17) 2 (3 players, 3 are all-in)

                                      Spoiler:
                                      Results: $563.17 pot ($4.00 rake)
                                      Final Board: Q 7 5 8 2
                                      BB showed 8 9 T K and lost (-$200 net)
                                      Hero mucked A J J 4 and won $559.17 ($359.17 net)
                                      BTN showed 4 J 4 T and lost (-$126.17 net)
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                                      09-27-2020 , 03:14 PM
                                      Nice one S1C..I guess the Q976ds I would check/fold the turn after he calls the flop. Not sure, if a 2nd barrel works here...
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                                      09-27-2020 , 10:10 PM
                                      Qx barely infrequently as IP has few Qx combos in his range after calling flop. Also want to be barrelling the broadway gutshots over the lower ones. Any "bluff" combo that doesn't have Ax is likely to be infrequently betting. Also consider that this turn is good for your range and you will have a lot of better Qx hands to barrel (KKQx, QJJx, Q:wrap)
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                                      09-28-2020 , 08:21 AM
                                      Quote:
                                      Originally Posted by MartinK1979
                                      Nice one S1C..I guess the Q976ds I would check/fold the turn after he calls the flop. Not sure, if a 2nd barrel works here...
                                      Quote:
                                      Originally Posted by f1tz
                                      Qx barely infrequently as IP has few Qx combos in his range after calling flop. Also want to be barrelling the broadway gutshots over the lower ones. Any "bluff" combo that doesn't have Ax is likely to be infrequently betting. Also consider that this turn is good for your range and you will have a lot of better Qx hands to barrel (KKQx, QJJx, Q:wrap)
                                      Hey guys, only had a quick look for turn play didnt end up checking river. Seems like our combo bets, Fitz I think Qx is a relatively high % turn bet even the very worst Qx excluding any gutter which is rare not to have (like we do). Ill have a look at river later on, seems like a good spot to ram even from an exploitative standpoint vs reg - maybe not vs donk tho.
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