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02-03-2015 , 11:34 PM
Agreed on the live vs online. Online is great and all, but it gets repetitive and is a pretty anti-social activity. Live is so much softer and more interesting. It's also fun to interact with a group of people that you would never interact with outside of the poker table.

Once I am rolled for $1/$2, I am gonna cash out and take it live. Current BR: $900. Aiming for $2k before I cash out.
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02-04-2015 , 01:56 AM
Sucks to hear about poker. I came back from Vegas and won about 1000 in 14 hrs of play. I got AK 6 times during my trip, I don't think I won a single hand with it lol, as I got crappy flops with it.
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02-04-2015 , 12:44 PM
@bm303 @stunt. Thanks for support guys. Yea my original goal of this thread was to build enough to play live. Like bm303 said, live is easy and more social. I'm usually person at table chatting with people, keeping mood light n friendly. Also I like meeting people that otherwise I'd never met. Now folding for hours sucks, but it equals out bc ppl are making monumental mistakes right in front of you almost every hand. Plus u get the time tip dissect every decision.

But I go to Gulf coast next week. I will be there until the end of Mardi Gras. Ok plan to get a lot of hours in. The mood on Gulf Coast will be festive, with 75% of adults drunk lol. Hopefully I can make goid decisions and have hands hold up. Until then it's 50nl.
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02-08-2015 , 10:35 AM
Just left casino. 8 hour session. Lost 194. Played 3 huge pots, villains. Hit flush on the river. I swear If I could just run normal I could crush these games.
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02-08-2015 , 11:00 AM
Just keep playing with a positive attitude. You will crush soon enough. We both know you have done the work. 8 hours is nothing in the grand scheme of things. Simply one work day.
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02-08-2015 , 01:47 PM
I played my best poker. This breakeven stretch is making me better. I went to casino for first time not to play cards but play my opponents and their ranges. I got good bit of non showdown winnings. If not for that i would've lost more.

This month n half has been frustrating. I get down or up slightly, and lose big pots with lots of equity to get knocked back down. It has mad me better. I have opened my game and more aggro, bc I've learned I can't depths on making a hand. So I have to look for opportunities. I'm becoming better, a real player. It will turn around, but I haven't tilted and have left when the bad beats start getting to me.

I can't be mad bc I.choose to play this game. If I can run semi decent in big pots I would be up huge over last month and half. I'm bout to lay down, then back to grind.

Year to date

Live:-340 in 26 hours
Online: breakeven

I'm shooting for 500 hours live. I'm behind but I anticipate racking up his this summer

#SklanskyDollar thousandaire
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02-11-2015 , 12:08 PM
Took shot at 100nl. Went bad as usual. Lost $300. Losing 100bb when villain flops set in 4! Pot. Ran into top of someone playing 70% of hands range. My big issue is losing 40-80bb pots. These are spots where I'm way ahead and somehow villain hits a 5 or 6 outer OTR to scoop pot. This has been story of my month, make progress, lose a 80bb pot that I had 75% equity in. I honestly wouldn't believe it if I didn't live it. Once again I don't need to run good, if I could just realize my equity I'd be fine

I understand this is poker. Basically I'm just numb right now. I really don't know how I can run this bad every time I play 100nl. I just can't get hands to hold up. I walk into a fish heater everytime. O well. I'll just grind it back at 50th n give it back at 100nl. I'm not even losing to regs im losing to fish.

Idk. 100nl is more than beatable. As a matter of fact I'm crushing the game. Unfortunately u can't spend Sklansky dollars

I ***** love this gane

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02-11-2015 , 03:38 PM
Just got done reviewing all my 100nl hands for 2015. I had to make sure it indeed is variance well it seems it is, obviously like everyone else, I make mistakes. But I haven't won many big pots. I have a 1500 hand sample where I got AA-QQ 7 times, lost 5 of them, all for over 50bb, all in spots where I'm way ahead of villains range, and they either flop set in 3! Pot or call down and hit a miracle two pair or trips on the river .

So my confidence is there it's just annoying AF. But I also checked my folds, to make sure I'm not getting too nitty and cautious . Most my big folds where right, I think I got bluffed in 2 out of 10 spots so defiantly +EV there. Poker is weird bc technically I'm crushing the game right now , but I have no proof

But I know 20-30k stretches normal, I have to remember this. But again confidence is there. I've stayed away from tilt, and I'm making good decisions. Plus I'm improving my game.

I apologize if people think I'm whining . I'm really not but I think it's important to write down feelings, especially in a downswing . That way when my next one comes and I think it's end of world I can look back and reflect . Plus writing it down helps me see when I'm emotional.

Have to get in more volume . This year I have less than 20k hands, although I did take a week break n played live a couple weekends. But seeing I'm around 20k hands makes me feel better, hopefully we crush the next 20k.
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02-13-2015 , 06:45 PM
Down at the Gulf Coast. Will be playing in Biloxi and sending Tuesday in New Orleans on Mardi Gras Day. Should be a fun week
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02-18-2015 , 04:49 PM
Still down on Gulf Coast. Did Mardi Gras in NOLA, now n Mobile, AL bc I can't get to Tennessee bc there is a State of Emergency. I have played poker at Beau and made $20 in about 8hrs. I'ma focus on online bc I can't play my correct game due to fact I'm not rolled.

These games are really good at casino, but I'm making a decision to not go to casino. These games are extremely deep , and right now the variance isn't worth it. Losing 1k will hurt more than winning 1k will help. And losing 1k in these games is easy. So it sucks but whatever. Casino isnt going anywhere. My focus is online at least until I get to 3k.
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02-18-2015 , 05:08 PM
Post more hands here or on the forums for feedback...keep working.
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02-18-2015 , 05:41 PM
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Post more hands here or on the forums for feedback...keep working.
+1. Will start doing this ASAP
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02-25-2015 , 01:50 PM
Sup gamblers.(poker is gambling, but so is investing in genral) I have taken bout a 4 day break. First two was moving into new house, **** had me tired. Last two was taking a break/ getting lost in GTA 5. But since my last update I have made beck about $200 at 50nl.

My mindset is good. Eager 2 start back grinding. I've reviewed hands and I'm confident, plus I realize my failures at 10nl are due allot to lack of volume. I have less than 5k hands total at that stake.

With that being said I'm motivated to grind 50nl until I get there. I'm work in nit carrying about stakes or money, but wanting to beat people at this game. When I have that mindset I dint tilt and I make decisions with logicand zero emotion or entitlement. When I play 2 win money it ****s up everything.

GL to everyone not in my games
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03-01-2015 , 01:56 PM
New month. Will be posting graph next week. I'm stuck about $500 online and $200 live for 2915. Online losses are mainly running bad at 100nl. This is Definately my longest losing streak. I'm technically crushing the game and am up $1000's of Sklansky dollars. I just can't make progress. I'm running way under EV in pots 60BB+. No matter how I get the money in good, they will find a way to hit 2pr or whatever. But volume is key, so I have to do better

March Goal: 80 hours. No EXCUSES

I am proud I have not been tilting, even when I keep getting knocked down by 4-8 outers with one card to come. Even when someone playing 80% of hands is up 4BI and I can't win a 70/30

Just waiting on universe to even out
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03-06-2015 , 11:33 AM
I really hate the way this thread is turning out, but it is what it is. Lost 3BI last night in 30 minutes. Had a maniac playing 84/55 and I lose JJ<34o. Then lose nut straight to tunred boat, then finally I lose nut straight on TJQ33 to Q3. Yea he went runner runner for bat.

This **** is honestly getting ridiculous. I grind 10-15 hours,make money back, then lose it to villains hitting miracles or classic set up hands.

2 months of this ****. No progress, I haven't got AA or KK all in this year and won. No action on monsters unless I'm getting coolered.

My BR is bad. I have $500, but only $200 of that is online. I have paid over $2k in medical expenses, so I'm thankful bc I paid for that with poker money. But now Idk what to do. I'm not 're depositing, so it's either quit our play 25nl and build back up

Idk. I'm not a quitter. But 2 and a half months of losing to miracles while missing every thing yourself mixed in with set up hands and ridiculous amounts of losing 80-90% equity hands is taking its toll.

I feel like Derrick Rose. How many times do you come back and the same dumb **** happens.
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03-11-2015 , 04:07 AM
Your mindset is not so good at the moment.

Stick to your original plan. (jump down to 25nl zoom at 200)

Here's an idea, when you start back at 25nl, start by playing a less volatile style, more tight, less variance. This is to accomplish two things:
1- regain confidence by winning any small amount you can
2- build a momentum

After you build momentum with a few small wins, you will become more confident and the momentum will continue, you'll move up to 50nl, keep winning, etc

Just book a few small wins at 25nl, your mindset will be much better.
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03-11-2015 , 11:31 AM
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Your mindset is not so good at the moment.

Stick to your original plan. (jump down to 25nl zoom at 200)

Here's an idea, when you start back at 25nl, start by playing a less volatile style, more tight, less variance. This is to accomplish two things:
1- regain confidence by winning any small amount you can
2- build a momentum

After you build momentum with a few small wins, you will become more confident and the momentum will continue, you'll move up to 50nl, keep winning, etc

Just book a few small wins at 25nl, your mindset will be much better.
Thanks. Actually have been playing regular 25nl, since Sunday. But will be switching to zone probably. And yea, I had to move down to clear my head. It was becoming about the money I won/lost and not decisions, which isn't good. I have also talked with some 2+2ers and got to sweat a good player last night.

I do need to stick to original plan, and not worry about moving up so quickly. Also it wouldn't hurt to not be so aggro with my BR. I really appreciate u taking time or of your day to post here and give advice. Means allot. I'm no quitter and I'll be back and better
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03-11-2015 , 04:16 PM
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Thanks. Actually have been playing regular 25nl, since Sunday. But will be switching to zone probably. And yea, I had to move down to clear my head. It was becoming about the money I won/lost and not decisions, which isn't good. I have also talked with some 2+2ers and got to sweat a good player last night.

I do need to stick to original plan, and not worry about moving up so quickly. Also it wouldn't hurt to not be so aggro with my BR. I really appreciate u taking time or of your day to post here and give advice. Means allot. I'm no quitter and I'll be back and better
I can already tell you are the type of player who needs conservative BRM. You need to be able to take five 2 outers in a row and maintain your composure. If you can't then you are playing out of your roll. I am the same way. Playing minimum of 40 buyins has helped. I won't move up until I have at least 40 for the next stake.
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03-11-2015 , 07:27 PM
HiI think 40 is a bit too conservative. I'm usually pretty good with not letting downswings get to me. But this one has been a bit unique in that I ran bad live and online at once. Also it came at really bad time as I had some unexpected medical issues. Also I think it extra messed with my head bc instead of just losing I would win, lose to coolers or bad beats, drop down, build up, and same thing again. Like I said, I can usually hands it for a week or so, but going on 6 weeks messed with me. I have had bad downswings, but this one was different, but all I can do is learn like I have from the previous ones

Also I'm my thread I type posts when I'm emotional. It just helps 2 get it off my chest. Then I go back and read it, see that I sound like a whiny bitch, and get my head right. It just helps me to verbalize my feelings. So I know in my posts it sounds I'm close to suicide but it's not that bad.

I still Will practice better BR management, but at same time I still be fairly aggro. Especially at 25-50nl level. I'm just going to more or less follow my original plan in my first post. I know I can beat up to 100, so I will be aggro in getting back, but this time I may not play 100nl with 10BI lol. But seriously, 50nl is very soft, and 100 is as well. IMO u should waste little time as possible in getting to at least 50nl, especially on a no rakeback site.

But I'm proud of myself. I dropped down twice, I haven't tilted of Buy Ins bc of bad beats. I have maintained composure. Now obviously in my head things got out of control, but it took almost two months to get to that point. 2 years ago there is no way I get through this downswing bc I would've punted off money due to tilt and Not swallowed my pride and dropped down. I reached my limit mentally, I got over it, and now I'm better prepared for next downswing.

It is what it is. I'm still in action, that's all that matters

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03-16-2015 , 07:48 PM
*Rising from the bottom*

After my last post I had $215 on Bovada. I had option to add more, But when u are losing left and right and stressing mentally, well reloading isn't smart. So i came up with a plan. I will grind 20 hours of 25nl. If I lose I drop down to 10nl. But re-depositing isn't an option until I forced myself to play solid without worrying over money. Well I started off losing $75. So I'm at $150, and I tell myself, if you lose 2BI more, u are grinding 10nl. Surprisingly I was at peace with this. Obviously not what I envisioned, but some things are out of my control.

Fortunately though I proceeded to win $175 in the next 15 hours of play. I'm Definately glad I don't have to grind 10nl, But honestly I expect this. When I was at 100 and 50nl players were making HUGE mistakes, especially the medium/short stackers. Unfortunately I spent 2 months losing a very high number of pots to these guys where I had 65%+ equity. And when u have aggro BR management like me then an extended run bad is devastating.

So at around $400 it's back to 50nl for a 4BI shot. I just know it's Damn hard to lose 4BI at 50nl. Obviously I fully realize that I can run like dog poo, but I'm willing 2 drop back to 25nl and grind again. I just know that I'm a big favorite in these games. When I'm losing bc I'm running into top of ranges or losing to 2-6 outers then I'm not waiting to get back in. If I was getting exploited left and right that's different.

Back to the basics. Aggro BR management until I get back to 100nl.

I have $330 on Bovada right now. Check the beginning of my thread. I have been here before. I was broken down but it won't be last time so I'm more prepared for the next stretch of cards where things go completely horrible lol. This will be my second time turning $200 into ~$2k.

**I am still up ~900 since start of this thread technically, but I had medical bills that I used some poker money for, plus I am stuck still around $700 on the year from live and online. So in reality out of the $1900 I had at end of December I have $200 at my house and $330 online. But whatever, with hard work and volume I will climb back up.

**I would like to thank BrokenStars
For letting me sweat him, and thanks to everyone who had words of encouragement. It was really appreciated.

Only stat that matters:
30/80 hours for March
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03-23-2015 , 07:03 PM
Not much to report. Still grinding 25nl, players still throwing money away every chance they get, but I'm still losing 50-100bb in crazy spots where villains have 20%-4% equity

And that's a summary of my year on Bovada
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03-23-2015 , 09:55 PM
Keep grinding. gl
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03-23-2015 , 10:04 PM
I recently went through a 35k hand break even stretch on bovada. It can feel like eternity when you can only 4 table the site + no rb. Just have to keep grinding through it and work on your game and realize if you have a edge eventually graph will start going back up again. Gl man.
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03-24-2015 , 11:10 AM
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I recently went through a 35k hand break even stretch on bovada. It can feel like eternity when you can only 4 table the site + no rb. Just have to keep grinding through it and work on your game and realize if you have a edge eventually graph will start going back up again. Gl man.
I'm sure this is the issue. It takes soooo long to get volume on this site. It takes 10 hours to get 2500 hands. So any real downswing is going to take a very long time. I know u can run bad for 30 - 50k hands , but on Bovada that's like 100-150 hours of play.


But thanks for encouragement broken stars and spacehippie
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05-24-2017 , 03:37 PM
TWO YEARS LATER!!!! Wow time flies. I have played poker off and on. I went back to my bread and butter of Triple up SNG over the last two years to make some money here and there. But for most part poker largely been on back burner. I have been doing ebay and FBA (fulfillment by amazon). I also created a Private Label product that I sourced from China. It was a golf set (1000 wooden tees, divot tool, greens towel,small bag for tees, and, golf brush). I sold this on Amazon( Look for "duvera golf gift set).

I have grown a lot. After reading Think and Grow Rich, Rich Dad Poor Dad, and Richest Man in Babylon, I'm really motivated to become the best version of myself I can be. I will also add that meditation and quarterly LSD trips have greatly helped me grow. Life is so much bigger than the bull**** we tell ourselves is "real" or "standard".

I only have 7 golf sets left, but I need to find a USA manufacturer because shipping from China just killed my margins. I'm no longer selling used books on FBA because they upped their fees and its just not profitable. (I was buying gaylords from the local goodwill outlet) I really don't want to do basic arbitrage because these are usually "one offs". I want repeatable income. Which brings us back to poker...

My goal for the rest of my life is to try to create things and build businesses around it. I refuse to ever get a 9-5. Just not me. I think I can use poker, in conjunction with other income streams, to start building my net worth. Will poker make me rich? Who knows? But it can provide enough income that I can roll over into something else. The key thing is always making my money work for me. I'm in Nashville and have family deep into real estate and remodeling houses. I have access to the best minds and talent in Nashville, and I'm ready to take advantage. Also there are some other areas that I am eyeing, but more on that in future posts.

At any rate, I'm focused for poker. I come planning to DESTROY competition. This means not playing auto pilot, waiting for good hands, and just trying to outplay fish. I'm coming for the regs. Anybody can beat fish. But what do u do when the fish dry up? Well the worst regs become fish. My point is, if i can win from regs I will profit from poker forever because most regs refuse to work on their game. All they care about is exploiting fish.

This has been a huge wall of text lol. But we can get to details later. Im back. I'm coming to destroy regs. I'm using this thread mainly as a place to get advice on my hands, grow as a player, and meet other players and help each other grow.
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