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09-11-2018 , 10:21 PM
Sweet sesion today
Spoiler:
imo atleast

Spoiler:





PokerStars - €0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: €9.15 (VPIP: 47.50, PFR: 17.50, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 40)
Hero (SB): €25.35
BB: €27.23 (VPIP: 26.44, PFR: 14.94, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 91)
UTG: €58.64 (VPIP: 17.36, PFR: 15.97, 3Bet Preflop: 11.11, Hands: 148)
MP: €25.00 (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 13.24, 3Bet Preflop: 7.41, Hands: 72)
CO: €17.96 (VPIP: 25.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 8)

Hero posts SB €0.10, BB posts BB €0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.35) Hero has Q Q

UTG raises to €0.75, MP raises to €2.60, fold, fold, Hero raises to €5.50, fold, fold, MP calls €2.90

Flop: (€12.00, 2 players) 9 7 6
Hero bets €3.00, MP calls €3.00

Turn: (€18.00, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, MP checks

River: (€18.00, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, MP bets €16.50 and is all-in, Hero calls €16.50

[spoiler] MP shows K A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 46%, Flop 30%, Turn 14%)
Hero shows Q Q (One Pair, Queens)
(Pre 54%, Flop 70%, Turn 86%)
Hero wins €48.45 [/spoiler]





PokerStars - €0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: €26.33 (VPIP: 14.40, PFR: 12.00, 3Bet Preflop: 5.13, Hands: 130)
Hero (SB): €39.28
BB: €62.18 (VPIP: 23.53, PFR: 12.75, 3Bet Preflop: 4.65, Hands: 102)
UTG: €29.48 (VPIP: 22.09, PFR: 14.13, 3Bet Preflop: 1.93, Hands: 833)
MP: €27.14 (VPIP: 20.90, PFR: 17.91, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 67)
CO: €23.00

Hero posts SB €0.10, BB posts BB €0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.35) Hero has 5 A

fold, fold, CO raises to €0.75, fold, Hero raises to €3.00, fold, CO calls €2.25

Flop: (€6.25, 2 players) 8 8 5
Hero bets €1.96, CO calls €1.96

Turn: (€10.17, 2 players) J
Hero checks, CO bets €4.75, Hero calls €4.75

River: (€19.67, 2 players) 9
Hero checks, CO bets €13.29 and is all-in, Hero calls €13.29

[spoiler]CO shows K A (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 69%, Flop 22%, Turn 15%)
Hero shows 5 A (Flush, Ace High)
(Pre 31%, Flop 78%, Turn 85%)
Hero wins €43.94[/spoiler]





PokerStars - €0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: €45.13 (VPIP: 18.49, PFR: 17.12, 3Bet Preflop: 5.77, Hands: 150)
Hero (SB): €33.89
BB: €5.32 (VPIP: 48.39, PFR: 35.48, 3Bet Preflop: 14.29, Hands: 33)
UTG: €8.04 (VPIP: 25.81, PFR: 9.68, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 32)
MP: €40.94 (VPIP: 24.42, PFR: 17.97, 3Bet Preflop: 3.26, Hands: 219)
CO: €15.20 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)

Hero posts SB €0.10, BB posts BB €0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.35) Hero has A K

fold, fold, CO raises to €0.75, fold, Hero raises to €2.50, fold, CO calls €1.75

Flop: (€5.25, 2 players) 6 4 2
Hero bets €1.65, CO calls €1.65

Turn: (€8.55, 2 players) T
Hero checks, CO bets €4.00, Hero calls €4.00

River: (€16.55, 2 players) K
Hero checks, CO bets €7.05 and is all-in, Hero calls €7.05

[spoiler]CO shows Q A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 25%, Flop 14%, Turn 7%)
Hero shows A K (One Pair, Kings)
(Pre 75%, Flop 86%, Turn 93%)
Hero wins €29.12[/spoiler]




:S

PokerStars - €0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: €24.65 (VPIP: 100.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 1)
SB: €87.70 (VPIP: 26.15, PFR: 18.97, 3Bet Preflop: 9.33, Hands: 198)
Hero (BB): €66.07
UTG: €9.44 (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 10.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 10)
MP: €51.90 (VPIP: 28.30, PFR: 23.58, 3Bet Preflop: 6.67, Hands: 109)
CO: €25.00 (VPIP: 21.73, PFR: 16.27, 3Bet Preflop: 8.02, Hands: 394)

SB posts SB €0.10, Hero posts BB €0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.35) Hero has J K

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to €0.75, Hero calls €0.50

Flop: (€1.50, 2 players) 6 J 5
SB bets €0.47, Hero calls €0.47

Turn: (€2.44, 2 players) Q
SB checks, Hero bets €1.75, SB calls €1.75

River: (€5.94, 2 players) A
SB bets €9.90, Hero calls €9.90

[spoiler]SB shows 7 8 (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 37%, Flop 34%, Turn 18%)
Hero shows J K (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 63%, Flop 66%, Turn 82%)
Hero wins €24.45[/spoiler]




i am crazy here? xD

PokerStars - €0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: €21.83 (VPIP: 29.41, PFR: 17.65, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
Hero (SB): €29.68
BB: €33.24 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 7.14, Hands: 47)
UTG: €30.32 (VPIP: 16.59, PFR: 9.68, 3Bet Preflop: 1.10, Hands: 222)
MP: €75.15 (VPIP: 25.29, PFR: 20.02, 3Bet Preflop: 10.51, Hands: 3,417)
CO: €27.93 (VPIP: 18.02, PFR: 13.51, 3Bet Preflop: 4.35, Hands: 116)

Hero posts SB €0.10, BB posts BB €0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.35) Hero has Q Q

fold, MP raises to €0.75, fold, fold, Hero raises to €3.00, fold, MP calls €2.25

Flop: (€6.25, 2 players) 9 K 6
Hero bets €1.96, MP calls €1.96

Turn: (€10.17, 2 players) A
Hero bets €5.75, MP calls €5.75

River: (€21.67, 2 players) 7
Hero bets €18.97 and is all-in, fold

Hero wins €20.59



seems ok?

PokerStars - €0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): €34.45
SB: €51.59 (VPIP: 23.91, PFR: 20.65, 3Bet Preflop: 5.33, Hands: 189)
BB: €25.84 (VPIP: 12.50, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
UTG: €14.91 (VPIP: 34.04, PFR: 17.02, 3Bet Preflop: 2.78, Hands: 96)
MP: €32.23 (VPIP: 30.00, PFR: 30.00, 3Bet Preflop: 100.00, Hands: 10)
CO: €28.92 (VPIP: 26.85, PFR: 17.72, 3Bet Preflop: 3.18, Hands: 4,802)

SB posts SB €0.10, BB posts BB €0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.35) Hero has 9 J

fold, fold, CO raises to €0.60, Hero raises to €1.75, fold, fold, CO calls €1.15

Flop: (€3.85, 2 players) A K T
CO checks, Hero bets €1.21, CO calls €1.21

Turn: (€6.27, 2 players) 5
CO checks, Hero bets €5.00, CO calls €5.00

River: (€16.27, 2 players) 7
CO checks, Hero bets €26.49 and is all-in, CO calls €20.96 and is all-in

Hero shows 9 J (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 38%, Flop 19%, Turn 9%)
CO shows A K (Two Pair, Aces and Kings)
(Pre 62%, Flop 81%, Turn 91%)
CO wins €55.34




:S, think turn call is optimistic here? since he bet flop seems low amount of AQ, maybe KQ

PokerStars - €0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: €39.98 (VPIP: 23.06, PFR: 16.64, 3Bet Preflop: 6.80, Hands: 536)
SB: €37.12 (VPIP: 40.00, PFR: 40.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 5)
BB: €36.53 (VPIP: 25.69, PFR: 20.01, 3Bet Preflop: 10.67, Hands: 3,057)
Hero (UTG): €28.60
MP: €9.37 (VPIP: 37.93, PFR: 27.59, 3Bet Preflop: 10.00, Hands: 31)
CO: €39.60 (VPIP: 28.52, PFR: 20.94, 3Bet Preflop: 8.57, Hands: 281)

SB posts SB €0.10, BB posts BB €0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.35) Hero has A 9

Hero raises to €0.75, fold, fold, BTN calls €0.75, fold, fold

Flop: (€1.85, 2 players) 9 5 2
Hero checks, BTN bets €1.25, Hero calls €1.25

Turn: (€4.35, 2 players) Q
Hero checks, BTN bets €6.00, Hero calls €6.00

River: (€16.35, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, BTN bets €21.00, Hero calls €20.60 and is all-in

[spoiler]BTN shows 3 3 (Three of a Kind, Threes)
(Pre 51%, Flop 11%, Turn 5%)
Hero shows A 9 (One Pair, Nines)
(Pre 49%, Flop 89%, Turn 95%)
BTN wins €54.70[/spoiler]




Love this one

PokerStars - €0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: €25.00 (VPIP: 17.78, PFR: 11.85, 3Bet Preflop: 2.02, Hands: 275)
SB: €29.14 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: -, Hands: 2)
Hero (BB): €27.95
UTG: €46.81 (VPIP: 23.54, PFR: 18.14, 3Bet Preflop: 9.47, Hands: 470)
MP: €25.00 (VPIP: 0.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)
CO: €25.16 (VPIP: 19.65, PFR: 17.14, 3Bet Preflop: 7.17, Hands: 760)

SB posts SB €0.10, Hero posts BB €0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.35) Hero has Q Q

fold, fold, CO raises to €0.75, fold, fold, Hero raises to €3.00, CO calls €2.25

Flop: (€6.10, 2 players) A J Q
Hero bets €3.19, CO calls €3.19

Turn: (€12.48, 2 players) 6
Hero checks, CO bets €7.10, Hero calls €7.10

River: (€26.68, 2 players) A
Hero checks, CO bets €11.87 and is all-in, Hero calls €11.87

CO shows A A (Four of a Kind, Aces)
(Pre 82%, Flop 95%, Turn 98%)
Hero shows Q Q (Full House, Queens full of Aces)
(Pre 18%, Flop 5%, Turn 2%)
CO wins €47.90




PokerStars - €0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: €50.17 (VPIP: 30.52, PFR: 16.06, 3Bet Preflop: 4.08, Hands: 255)
SB: €25.45 (VPIP: 33.33, PFR: 33.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 3)
Hero (BB): €28.26
UTG: €18.64 (VPIP: 31.58, PFR: 17.89, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 97)
MP: €19.14 (VPIP: 35.46, PFR: 18.33, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 258)
CO: €34.25 (VPIP: 50.00, PFR: 50.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 4)

SB posts SB €0.10, Hero posts BB €0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.35) Hero has T A

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to €0.75, Hero calls €0.50

Flop: (€1.50, 2 players) 7 8 9
SB bets €0.99, Hero calls €0.99

Turn: (€3.48, 2 players) 2
SB bets €2.32, Hero calls €2.32

River: (€8.12, 2 players) K
SB bets €5.40, Hero calls €5.40

SB shows K K (Three of a Kind, Kings)
(Pre 71%, Flop 56%, Turn 75%)
Hero mucks T A (High Card, Ace)
(Pre 29%, Flop 44%, Turn 25%)
SB wins €17.97


I can be puting hands here all day xD, I am destroying fishes imo
maybe i play one 20 mtt that night, seems good one and not touch one in this series


BR : 1.111

<3 <3

PD: why my spoilers donŽt work in hands? :S

Last edited by SlavaGZ; 09-11-2018 at 10:42 PM.
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-18-2018 , 02:27 PM
I realized that I need to analyze why I'm afraid to put effort, This is what I have to work on right now, I'm really afraid of suffering (as everyone I suppose) but mine is exaggerated (ansiety), This makes poker as professional really hardest for me I love poker, but I've always played / studied recreationally, I never forced myself too much to do it, so forcing myself to do it is suffering especially for me (because I love poker as I understand it now and I do not want it to be a suffering and for my anxiety that makes me anticipate suffering with more suffering).
I really did not go to the psychologist to see the anxiety, I realized that I had it (TOC) on the internet, because it is easy to realize that xD
And I really believe that I approached the problem well, I do not have at least the worst manias, it may be that some subconscious continue. but I can not be sure of having solved it, seeing how I approach Poker I think I really could not have solved it.

So I really have no idea how to approach the problem, I do not know if I should go to a psychologist or try to do some therapy by myself, or if I can really solve it with some reading, perhaps I relate in a wrong way suffering and effort, even though I think no, from what I heard they are very related, the important thing is the approach with which you face the suffering, so how can i change mine?

I suppose that reading what I say with so much suffering etc is easy to say then do not try to be professional, I really want to be, I do not want to touch the lottery or anything like it, it is not only for the money it is for much more, to become a professional is a experience that I want to live, also I would like to earn enough money to not have to work on something else anymore (I know it is very difficult and not only depends on my effort), Also poker seems to me a way in which you can make a lot of money in a morally clean way. I could say many more reasons why I want to be a professional, but I think those are the most important, the ones that move me the most.

In short, I am sure that I want to be a professional and not going for it is not an option for me, it is not the solution to any of my problems.

May i should put this in some forum about mental game, but I put it here first in case someone reads it and wants to give me some advice or recommendation of some reading or something like that, also think is good info of mine for be here.

Pathetic graph since start this :



Pathetic for the vol, not care about results obv, I really feel sorry for myself

Lost any money with any mtt too,
-I do not want to play anymore mtt until I play higher and have a good focus, they make me lose time
-I do not want to get drunk more than once a week
-I do not want to smoke weed before playing
-I do not want to play anything other game than poker cash games

I put out tobacco of my life 21 of las month (joints without it and not cigars), so go for a 1st month i am really happy for this
-Not smoke tobacco never more

BR : 881




I'm not going to play nothing today, I want to focus on the problems I talked about before, I will not upload more small graphics neither, only weekly and one monthly

Much love for all who read <3

Last edited by SlavaGZ; 09-18-2018 at 02:45 PM.
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-18-2018 , 03:04 PM
Hi slavaGZ!

I see myself in some things that you mention before, for example, the anxiety, the procastination. I havent overcome the anxiety, althought im way better at it than i was some years ago. With the procastination, imo it just comes from little steps by steps, you have to force to get those proper habits/routines in.
Im also trying to quit tobacco, smoked for years now, and its not been easy.
Weed, i try to only smoke during weekends, because what i have i will smoke it till it ends. So week days are off for me now. Tried many times to combine it with poker, it never worked out.
Ill be following this blog for sure, best of luck!
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-18-2018 , 03:59 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Lastime
Hi slavaGZ!

I see myself in some things that you mention before, for example, the anxiety, the procastination. I havent overcome the anxiety, althought im way better at it than i was some years ago. With the procastination, imo it just comes from little steps by steps, you have to force to get those proper habits/routines in.
Im also trying to quit tobacco, smoked for years now, and its not been easy.
Weed, i try to only smoke during weekends, because what i have i will smoke it till it ends. So week days are off for me now. Tried many times to combine it with poker, it never worked out.
Ill be following this blog for sure, best of luck!
ty mate, have you TOC? I really do not know much about anxiety because of what I said that I learned on the internet, do not talk about it with anyone else, only a friend who also has anxiety, but his type of anxiety is more ****ing than mine, he does not like to talk about it then it did not deepen in my case or in his
What I do know is that my type of anxiety at least occurs in my case with an "exaggerated fear of suffering", so that's why I started thinking that maybe it is what makes it really hard for me to start those routines, also I take a lot of time without having routines, this seems decisive to see it so complicated all i will to read something about what you say do it step by step

For put out tobacco I read "easy way to stop smoking", gave me some essential bases I think, even though I have not been for a long time yet, I really think that I did not go back to smoking tobacco, I really hate it with all my force, I quit smoking 3 months or more after to read it. It's a very famous book, maybe you've already read it

I also love weed, but I think it's very important to smoke it only when I want to be "smoked", not because I need to smoke something. And for this tobacco can't be in the middle (just trying to do it yet, I smoked hash 24/7 and cigars too for 10 years before day 21 last month xD)

Ty for follow, and GL to you too
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-18-2018 , 06:49 PM
Looks like you need some rapidesh coaching. Should solve your problems. Broke in about a week and no more anxiety.
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-19-2018 , 12:17 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
Looks like you need some rapidesh coaching. Should solve your problems. Broke in about a week and no more anxiety.
You're obsessed with him mate


Last edited by SlavaGZ; 09-19-2018 at 12:22 AM. Reason: lulz
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-20-2018 , 07:12 AM
Yes, hitting the bottle less frequently is a great idea! Hit the bottle yesterday again, oh, ouch my head.
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-21-2018 , 03:41 AM
3k yesterday

My questions on this hand are:
I am assuming flat it here is bad vs any villain
- should i have a lot of bluffs in raise flop range? KT, QT, K9, Q9, 45 can i raise here all this?
-should fold OTF KThh and this non bdf hands? or what i do with this?
-after raise flop, what should i do with my bluffs? push all in any 2 turn? or what?


PokerStars - €0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: €84.25 (VPIP: 20.33, PFR: 13.37, 3Bet Preflop: 3.01, Hands: 365)
SB: €25.04 (VPIP: 10.61, PFR: 6.06, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 69)
BB: €41.88 (VPIP: 21.54, PFR: 17.23, 3Bet Preflop: 5.22, Hands: 330)
UTG: €12.39 (VPIP: 38.89, PFR: 11.11, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 18)
MP: €23.07 (VPIP: 19.68, PFR: 14.52, 3Bet Preflop: 11.50, Hands: 322)
Hero (CO): €50.53

SB posts SB €0.10, BB posts BB €0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.35) Hero has T K

fold, fold, Hero raises to €0.75, fold, fold, BB raises to €2.78, Hero calls €2.03

Flop: (€5.66, 2 players) 7 J 8
BB bets €2.80, Hero calls €2.80

Turn: (€11.26, 2 players) 6
BB checks, Hero bets €8.03, BB calls €8.03

River: (€27.32, 2 players) J
BB checks, Hero bets €36.92 and is all-in, BB calls €28.27 and is all-in

Hero shows T K (One Pair, Jacks)
(Pre 32%, Flop 31%, Turn 16%)
BB shows Q Q (Two Pair, Queens and Jacks)
(Pre 68%, Flop 69%, Turn 84%)
BB wins €81.01

not go put more hands of yesterday, this is the biggest hand and sames suficient questions xD

cya

Last edited by SlavaGZ; 09-21-2018 at 04:07 AM.
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-21-2018 , 05:16 AM
fold turn fish.
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-21-2018 , 05:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mirage01
fold turn fish.
i am who bets turn bro
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-21-2018 , 05:52 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by SlavaGZ
i am who bets turn bro
Why do you bomb the turn like that?
If you want to get him of Ax and you plan on barreling some rivers your sizing is a bit weird. I also think that the J on the river is a very bad card for you to barrel on.
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-21-2018 , 06:32 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Einphone
Why do you bomb the turn like that?
If you want to get him of Ax and you plan on barreling some rivers your sizing is a bit weird. I also think that the J on the river is a very bad card for you to barrel on.
mirage? , only joke

My size is not with the intention of shoot an Ax, that too, bc OTT i don't go bet Jx, I tried to shoot pairs, at the time I felt that intuitively I had few bluffs (wrong bc i am overbluffing with this way if i bet 2 sweat brodways even without value raise flop), so I thought I could shoot AA if the opponent was a bit tight , I thought it would be the way I would play my best hands too.
Now I think I should raise on the flop, basically all sets and stright with bluffs like thes, because that's the way to put more pressure. I'm not sure if it makes sense either, of course, what you think?

Last edited by SlavaGZ; 09-21-2018 at 06:42 AM.
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-23-2018 , 11:07 AM
I played this hand two days ago, a friend who plays mtt told me to fold turn, I asked him why? He told me that he did not want to argue, because I'm always a stubborn, I think your range is 100% bluffs lol, what do you think? on the turn obviously, the villain obviously had aggressive tendencies, now we also know that he is a fish reg, he now also knows that I am a station


PokerStars - €0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: €20.73 (VPIP: 18.52, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
SB: €56.46 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 18.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.98, Hands: 251)
Hero (BB): €25.00
UTG: €25.00 (VPIP: 23.58, PFR: 17.07, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 123)
MP: €9.24 (VPIP: 21.19, PFR: 12.58, 3Bet Preflop: 3.17, Hands: 155)
CO: €22.95 (VPIP: 18.79, PFR: 12.12, 3Bet Preflop: 3.28, Hands: 168)

SB posts SB €0.10, Hero posts BB €0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.35) Hero has 8 7

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to €0.75, Hero raises to €2.25, SB calls €1.50

Flop: (€4.50, 2 players) 8 4 9
SB checks, Hero bets €1.41, SB raises to €4.75, Hero calls €3.34

Turn: (€14.00, 2 players) 2
SB bets €11.25, Hero calls €11.25

River: (€36.50, 2 players) K
SB bets €24.28, Hero calls €6.75 and is all-in

SB shows T J (High Card, King)
(Pre 62%, Flop 46%, Turn 30%)
Hero shows 8 7 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 38%, Flop 54%, Turn 70%)
Hero wins €47.50



I'm not going to put graphics or something, I played almost nothing this week, I do not regret it, it's fine, soon I'll start being a grind machine. Today I'm in a hangover, I do not want to think, I went to play the league of legends a little bit and then maybe some mtt that I said was a waste of time, today I can not waste my time, because I do not intend to do anything serious, as much they can make me lose money, I'm poor but I do not care (they can also make me earn money lol).


<3 <3
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09-23-2018 , 04:24 PM
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Mirage how do you survive + 2k messages bro? XDD



#skill
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-23-2018 , 05:03 PM
Heh, u play league in wich server? I used too aswell, on EUW. Wich is ur fav champ?
I want to be a serious grinder Quote
09-23-2018 , 06:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by 1Lastime
Heh, u play league in wich server? I used too aswell, on EUW. Wich is ur fav champ?
EUW too



And with that skin xDD (I have 3 on she, but This is my favorite and I bought it 2 times in two accounts, ban lol), have 500k mp on she with the 2 accounts sum lol, I started playing she because my friends had been playing for years, and I wanted to play with them without ****ing them (now everyone plays fornite so I ended up playing alone with soraka without my friends, before fornite also played alone sometimes, but now there is no option to play with them, better for me ), it seemed very easy and very cool to save everyone the first time I played she xD



Think is reeally toxic game too xD, i hate it a lot, I would like never to have played, I have it uninstalled so as not to fall, I installed it today, normally when I install it again I get hooked and lose a lot of hours xD I may play a couple of games later and then I will uninstall it, add me, but I hope you do not find me online hahaha, I am really bad too as you can see

I really regret not playing dota2 instead of lol because people say it is less toxic and more strategic, but now I do not want to try it haha, Only POKER
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09-24-2018 , 01:21 PM
Hehe, throwing those bananas at ppls is fun indeed. Mine was twitch, but i also uninstalled it, was tilting more often than not when playing it so... fk that toxicity lol. And yeah, im kinda like you, and ive played a bunch of league back in the days, peak was d5, stoped for a long time, back at it and left it in g5. If only i had put in the hours on poker like that, fml. for now i can play it, focus is to climb from microstakes now
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09-25-2018 , 05:31 AM
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Hehe, throwing those bananas at ppls is fun indeed. Mine was twitch, but i also uninstalled it, was tilting more often than not when playing it so... fk that toxicity lol. And yeah, im kinda like you, and ive played a bunch of league back in the days, peak was d5, stoped for a long time, back at it and left it in g5. If only i had put in the hours on poker like that, fml. for now i can play it, focus is to climb from microstakes now
haha you are a lol crusher

gogo mate
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09-25-2018 , 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by SlavaGZ
I played this hand two days ago, a friend who plays mtt told me to fold turn, I asked him why? He told me that he did not want to argue, because I'm always a stubborn, I think your range is 100% bluffs lol, what do you think? on the turn obviously, the villain obviously had aggressive tendencies, now we also know that he is a fish reg, he now also knows that I am a station


PokerStars - €0.25 NL FAST (6 max) - Holdem - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: €20.73 (VPIP: 18.52, PFR: 7.41, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 55)
SB: €56.46 (VPIP: 22.22, PFR: 18.93, 3Bet Preflop: 6.98, Hands: 251)
Hero (BB): €25.00
UTG: €25.00 (VPIP: 23.58, PFR: 17.07, 3Bet Preflop: 3.77, Hands: 123)
MP: €9.24 (VPIP: 21.19, PFR: 12.58, 3Bet Preflop: 3.17, Hands: 155)
CO: €22.95 (VPIP: 18.79, PFR: 12.12, 3Bet Preflop: 3.28, Hands: 168)

SB posts SB €0.10, Hero posts BB €0.25

Pre Flop: (pot: €0.35) Hero has 8 7

fold, fold, fold, fold, SB raises to €0.75, Hero raises to €2.25, SB calls €1.50

Flop: (€4.50, 2 players) 8 4 9
SB checks, Hero bets €1.41, SB raises to €4.75, Hero calls €3.34

Turn: (€14.00, 2 players) 2
SB bets €11.25, Hero calls €11.25

River: (€36.50, 2 players) K
SB bets €24.28, Hero calls €6.75 and is all-in

SB shows T J (High Card, King)
(Pre 62%, Flop 46%, Turn 30%)
Hero shows 8 7 (One Pair, Eights)
(Pre 38%, Flop 54%, Turn 70%)
Hero wins €47.50

I agree with your friend, even though you found one of the few bluffs you wanted opponent to have I think you should make a fairly routine fold on turn.
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09-25-2018 , 07:39 AM
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I agree with your friend, even though you found one of the few bluffs you wanted opponent to have I think you should make a fairly routine fold on turn.
Welcome mate <3

I did not expect to have this hand hahaha JTo call 3bet? : S

why fold the turn? Did we pay the flop to fold the turn? I can not see how this is good.

Also his turn sizing is very bad against avg pool as value because people (like you and my friend) folds here, and I had no history with him, therefore I expect very little value here, of course he would be printing against me if he uses those sizings for value, that's the strategy that destroys me, because they confuse me with apparent little value in his sizing, but he's honest here, he would probably never use this sizing as value because apparently it's easy fold a lot for the avg reg here, obv he is trying put pressure on my overpairs.

I do not think that the heart of the turn is too bad, even if he was not paying with these hands preflop (JTo), his sizing on the turn, makes me on the river only have to win 7% of the time xD, it is crazy low amount of the time i should win, crazy low, and since he is agro and since his turn sizing he will hve suficient bluffs for sure. I also thought what would happen if the river were a Q? ahhaha

I really think fold turn here is a mistake vs thes agro bad regs, obv not vs a good one or vs a nit

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Welcome mate <3

I did not expect to have this hand hahaha JTo call 3bet? : S

why fold the turn? Did we pay the flop to fold the turn? I can not see how this is good.

Also his turn sizing is very bad against avg pool as value because people (like you and my friend) folds here, and I had no history with him, therefore I expect very little value here, of course he would be printing against me if he uses those sizings for value, that's the strategy that destroys me, because they confuse me with apparent little value in his sizing, but he's honest here, he would probably never use this sizing as value because apparently it's easy fold a lot for the avg reg here, obv he is trying put pressure on my overpairs.

I do not think that the heart of the turn is too bad, even if he was not paying with these hands preflop (JTo), his sizing on the turn, makes me on the river only have to win 7% of the time xD, it is crazy low amount of the time i should win, crazy low, and since he is agro and since his turn sizing he will hve suficient bluffs for sure. I also thought what would happen if the river were a Q? ahhaha

I really think fold turn here is a mistake vs thes agro bad regs, obv not vs a good one or vs a nit


Actually it's more like 15% you need on river.

But given the SPR on river after calling turn you should be considering the turn bet an allin jam, and should probably be shoving or folding on turn. So if we consider the turn as a jam by opponent then you need to call 18 into a pot of 32. Meaning you need about 55% equity vs their range to "call" allin on the turn.

Now when you consider their turn range will also consist of a bunch of hands you are drawing dead or close to dead vs (if they flat 3b with JTo they will surely have stuff like 76hh they can play this way or JTo with a heart, some sets, even some stuff like A9 etc etc) then there's no way you can call this turn. You came up against one of the weakest hands opponent could have in their range and you still only had 70% equity vs that single hand. Vs their entire range you didn't get the right odds to "go allin" on turn.
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09-25-2018 , 01:55 PM
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Actually it's more like 15% you need on river.

But given the SPR on river after calling turn you should be considering the turn bet an allin jam, and should probably be shoving or folding on turn. So if we consider the turn as a jam by opponent then you need to call 18 into a pot of 32. Meaning you need about 55% equity vs their range to "call" allin on the turn.

Now when you consider their turn range will also consist of a bunch of hands you are drawing dead or close to dead vs (if they flat 3b with JTo they will surely have stuff like 76hh they can play this way or JTo with a heart, some sets, even some stuff like A9 etc etc) then there's no way you can call this turn. You came up against one of the weakest hands opponent could have in their range and you still only had 70% equity vs that single hand. Vs their entire range you didn't get the right odds to "go allin" on turn.
Uff mate, i canŽt understand you.

Is true we need win 13.5% of the time on the river, not 7%, okey.

why bc the spr on the river is low, i should think in the turn bet as a push? it has not sense for me, Push or fold turn is suicidal since he has bluffs (a lot imo, bc not is a sizing what people as he use as value), we are bluffcatching here. Why we need think in turn bet as a jam and change all maths of hand? lol i canŽt understand this. Even if spr is 0,x on the river maths not change.

why invent the odds? the odds are there, why change them because it's a small spr? you are directly inventing the numbers in this hand

You're talking about going all in on the turn as if the hand consisted of that, Against a polarized bet I do not want to go all in, neither here nor anywhere, this is a basic concept and I do not understand why I would change this just for that the spr on the river is small, it seems suicidal and I do not see a single hand that wants to go all in here

I already told that I did not expect to see JTo, thinking about JTo is results oriented, but it does not matter, this benefits my call does not make it worse even if he has 6 combos with hearts for each hand offsuit, he has 6 without hearts, this means that each hand offsuit that he have benefits me a lot...



31 value combos on turn aproximately (what i think is crazy low amount when this guy use that sizing and it is obv important), OTR 13,5% of 31 is 4 combos of bluff i need on the river for make my call brake even. Think that even in a Qh river he can keep has hands like 65(3) and 76(2) what are 6 combos of bluffs so i can still call here in a Qh, is true when we see JTo we are more fcked in a Qh but still close thinking he has 65 (3) 76 (2) hands yet (and this is the worst river)

our hand block sets and outs of villain bluffs on the turn too, only a point

I donŽt try says i am in the true, only canŽt udnerstand your points

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09-26-2018 , 07:33 AM
I decide not to continue with this thread, This forum is becoming toxic for me, I read too many idiots and I do not like to shut up, people like rent a beach so that the poor do not have access, jesus christ, those people who want to be like ronaldo, dirty the name of poker posting their stupid banalities in this forum, they will alone realize how crap they are, but not while others support their idiocies, As I said, stupidity feeds itself in this way, it is sad and motivating at the same time to see how high stakes players support their ****s, this means that their heads are empty. I am getting angry and losing more time than I am learning here, of course I love some threads here and I will follow them. I also do not see how this thread can help me climb faster, instead I think the opposite now. I will work for myself, I alone, this is what I have to do, without distractions. Maybe I'll be back soon to do a 500z challenge, who knows lol or maybe IŽll continue with this thread, but not before being a serious grinder, not before playing levels where I can pay my leave expenses atleast.
I am sorry to have opened this thread and end it so fast, but it is the best I can do, I could just let him die without saying anything, but I think that is stupid, I prefer to make it clear to myself and everyone why I do not want to continue.

All the best for the good people of this forum, I will follow your threads of course, tons of love <3 <3



Shellys feel free to reply last hand if you want please

CYA <3 <3 <3 <3

(and no, no busto xDD)

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09-26-2018 , 09:03 AM
Do you have a garden? Or do some of your friends have houses with gardens? Are you offended by that too?

And how about garages?
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09-26-2018 , 10:04 AM
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Do you have a garden? Or do some of your friends have houses with gardens? Are you offended by that too?

And how about garages?



your skills, i am owned mate


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