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05-22-2010 , 07:55 PM
Ok so I’m tourney and a cash game player (not very good at either) but I’m going to make $2,000 by the end of this calendar year. I play 5-10nl, and any tourneys, small buy-ins and bigger buy-ins if I can satellite into them. I have a Bankroll of around $200 dollars, with another $100 to be added due to a return on a staked player.

I have been mainly a losing player for the last few years, but have made more money than I have lost because of a few mtt scores. I have decided that a big change in attitude is key to me making any tracks in the poker world. I’m a LAG player, who has tried tightening up but with no avail, so I guess I’m stuck with the style. I play 6-max cash and both 6-max and full ring tournaments.

I hope to have job this summer from so I will only be putting in sessions after 18:30, so although I want to improve and work on my tourney game, I have to play cash during the week. I can still put in 4-5 hours a day, and I play up to 16 tables at a time. At weekends I will be more or less concentrating on tournaments.

My aims for this summer (June-August)

-Become a winning player: 25nl by the end of the summer

-Reach silver/gold status on stars - or iron man on full tilt

-Play and have a few good runs in the mini series of poker hosted by ftp

-Have a few 3 figure tourney scores.

-Take down a 4 figured score

-Become a more frequent poster and researcher on 2+2 - devote more time -to study, paying attention to the strategy forums. I want to spend an hour a day studying

-Keep disciplined - playing within my BRM, but permission to take shots at tournaments every so often

-Play in the Sunday Million - once my tourney game has improved

-Improve my live play, and play live on a weekly/fortnightly basis.

-Learn a new game, along with improve my PLO game.

I am applying a different bankroll management strategy to any one I have tried before. I find it hard to stick to my BRM limits so here is the strategy I will use:

Cash Games - I'm going to be conservative on the Cash front, using the 20-25bi rule
Tournaments - Most follow the 2% rule. I'm applying a 2-7.5% rule, with the aim of satelliting into bigger events.
SNGs I'm also planning on returning to SNGs if i can string together a decent role and will be using 35-50bi dependin on level i play at.

Feel free to comment, tell me my post was too long and boring, criticise (constructively please :P) or ask anything u dont understand.

As u can see guys I can talk a good game, I'll have to show everyone I'm capable of playing one too. My challenge starts monday.
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05-22-2010 , 07:59 PM
What is your stars username please?
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05-22-2010 , 10:39 PM
Good luck! Biggest cash to date?
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05-23-2010 , 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Chepstow One
What is your stars username please?
mmm... i get edgy when people ask me this, why?

My biggest cash to date has been $345 in a tourney when i took down a micro buyin. in the beginning im goin to stick to $2.20 tourneys, until my roll gets bigger and my tourney game improves.
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05-23-2010 , 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Schoolboy
mmm... i get edgy when people ask me this, why?
Becouse they have huge bankrolls and they will try to bust you.

Spoiler:
Seriuosly, probably just to see if you are not lying about your stats and winnings, and maybe rail you if you go deep in an mtt or something
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05-23-2010 , 12:45 PM
Ah i get u now. my stats won't be of help to anyone i don't think as they are so inconsistant. When i deposit on stars i mainly only play tournaments out side of my Bankroll with 2000+ players, so obv they arent goin to be accurate. Stars was basically my recreational taking shots site. Full tilt got off to a terrible start but steadily improving, although not playin grreat for the last 2weeks.

2 moro thats gonna change guys. Im reading alot of strategy, relaxing, gettin a nice playlist together for grinding. im also goin to set myself a list of weekly goals. this should be enough to keep me motivated. will play a low buyin tourney or 2 tonite to see if i can boost my roll ahead of the challenge.
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05-23-2010 , 08:17 PM
A few sick beats tonite in the tourneys i played tonite didnt do me any good, but tomorrow is a new day, a new challenge.. 9.30 tomoro we shall commence...
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05-23-2010 , 08:28 PM
This is fascinating. So glad this new forum was made so i can read 10 new threads like this every day
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05-24-2010 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by MinSixBet
This is fascinating. So glad this new forum was made so i can read 10 new threads like this every day
haha how many are u goin to see succeed? im goin to make an alteration to my goal because i think im gonna ship my full roll to stars and concentrate on one site as opposed to ftp and pokerstars...

just started play this morning on ftp, but after playin for a few days on stars, the software is so much better
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05-24-2010 , 06:17 AM
-Become a winning player: 25nl by the end of the summer

-Reach silver/gold status on stars

-Play and have a few good runs in the mini series of poker hosted by ftp - not playin as many as i originally planned

-Have a few 3 figure tourney scores.

-Take down a 4 figured score - if i am lucky enough!

-Become a more frequent poster and researcher on 2+2 - devote more time -to study, paying attention to the strategy forums. I want to spend an hour a day studying

-Keep disciplined - playing within my BRM, but permission to take shots at tournaments every so often

-Play in the Sunday Million - once my tourney game has improved - only if by BR lets me take shots at satellites

-Improve my live play, and play live on a weekly/fortnightly basis.

-Learn a new game, along with improve my PLO game.

The goals highlighted in green are my main focuses. Maybe i was being unrealistic with my origianal, so these are my goals to focus on and if i reach them i will add the others. these are my priorities. I still feel it is very realisable to reach 2000$ by December 31st 2010, but im hoping to have the majority of this done before august.
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05-24-2010 , 06:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Schoolboy
Ok so I’m tourney and a cash game player (not very good at either) but I’m going to make $2,000 by the end of this calendar year. I play 5-10nl, and any tourneys, small buy-ins and bigger buy-ins if I can satellite into them. I have a Bankroll of around $200 dollars, with another $100 to be added due to a return on a staked player.

I have been mainly a losing player for the last few years, but have made more money than I have lost because of a few mtt scores. I have decided that a big change in attitude is key to me making any tracks in the poker world. I’m a LAG player, who has tried tightening up but with no avail, so I guess I’m stuck with the style. I play 6-max cash and both 6-max and full ring tournaments.

I hope to have job this summer from so I will only be putting in sessions after 18:30, so although I want to improve and work on my tourney game, I have to play cash during the week. I can still put in 4-5 hours a day, and I play up to 16 tables at a time. At weekends I will be more or less concentrating on tournaments.

My aims for this summer (June-August)

-Become a winning player: 25nl by the end of the summer

-Reach silver/gold status on stars - or iron man on full tilt

-Play and have a few good runs in the mini series of poker hosted by ftp

-Have a few 3 figure tourney scores.

-Take down a 4 figured score

-Become a more frequent poster and researcher on 2+2 - devote more time -to study, paying attention to the strategy forums. I want to spend an hour a day studying

-Keep disciplined - playing within my BRM, but permission to take shots at tournaments every so often

-Play in the Sunday Million - once my tourney game has improved

-Improve my live play, and play live on a weekly/fortnightly basis.

-Learn a new game, along with improve my PLO game.

I am applying a different bankroll management strategy to any one I have tried before. I find it hard to stick to my BRM limits so here is the strategy I will use:

Cash Games - I'm going to be conservative on the Cash front, using the 20-25bi rule
Tournaments - Most follow the 2% rule. I'm applying a 2-7.5% rule, with the aim of satelliting into bigger events.
SNGs I'm also planning on returning to SNGs if i can string together a decent role and will be using 35-50bi dependin on level i play at.

Feel free to comment, tell me my post was too long and boring, criticise (constructively please :P) or ask anything u dont understand.

As u can see guys I can talk a good game, I'll have to show everyone I'm capable of playing one too. My challenge starts monday.

I have some advice. Let me tell you a story first. I met somebody here at 2+2 and we've been talking on AIM. He has no job but a college degree. He complains about looking for a job but not accepting them cause he doesnt like having a boss. Im somewhat of a poker coach so I wanted to speak to him and help improve his game because I told him poker may be just what he's been looking for and he agreed with me. He has a $200 bankroll and he has had this for as long as Ive known him (probably 2 months). After showing him some calculations and trying to get him set up he refused to do as I told him to. He has a laptop so he says he's unable to play >8 tables and he personally would NOT play more than 4 tables at a time. He cherishes his $200 bankroll cause its all the money he's got. He also refuses to play anymore than 4 hours of poker a day (he does have a girlfriend and a social life). He spends his time playing 10NL. Needless to say I stopped speaking to him cause he wouldnt listen to me. I tried explaining why it is he has only had this $200 for so long and he's not making money. The reason being is because he needs to put in MORE TIME and MORE VOLUME. If he is a 2bb/100 winning player at 10NL, and only plays 2 tables at a time for a maximum of 4 hours a day, he's only profiting $2 a day from 10NL (50 cents an hour).

So my advice to you if you want to make any sort of income and grow your bankroll you want to put in thousands of hands each day. You must understand realistic expectations. Some players after a few hundred hands of a given xNL have a winning rate of 10bb/100. This is NOT going to be their long-term profits but they think they can consistently earn this. Until they have a losing streak and see that figure drop to 1bb/100. Even over 50k hands there are large fluctuations to bb/100.

You seem like a person who is devoted to making this happen. You can as long as you understand some things. If you're going to play 10NL how much do you plan on making? If you have never recorded your results and analyzed your game then this would be a good place to start. You want to know how you perform at these stakes. A lot of players have a tough time beating 25NL even if they are a winning player at 10NL or even in 1000NL in real life. So go download Poker Tracker 3 its free for 60 days. Play 16 tables and put in 4 hours a day that would be 5,000 hands a day you put in with full ring. If you're playing 10NL and can win at 2bb/100 (which is fair) then you would profit $20 a day. So playing 10NL cash without moving up to 25NL you would have $2,000 in <4 months (this includes taking the weekends off). If you do not perform 2bb/100 at 10NL over 50k-100k hands you'll want to seek advice for improving your game. With rakeback you'll reach the $2000 mark in 3 months and if you move up to 25NL when reaching $500, in 2 months.

As others have mentioned SNG would make you more money and they are right. But your goals are small and you can accomplish them with what you put forth here. And you should be able to much much sooner than by end of the year. So I suggest sticking with 10NL as your primary job and play the MTT on the weekends. This would be a piece of cake.
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05-24-2010 , 07:27 AM
Thanks a million for such a long detailed post, giving some great insight and great advice. yea so my BR will be about 200 to start this off cause im clearin money off ftp, similar to the person u were talkin about. but i will not be playin scared money, i will play poker to my strengths and will not be fazed by the money involved.

however i am goin to play a few 1000 hands at 5nl, just to get me back into cash poker again and used to cash games on stars.

i have hold'em manager but have never used it to its full potential, so i learn to use it to its full potential, and not just the HUD!

I hope to get back into SNGS after a while, but for now 5nl-10nl cash.

I know all about running bad, variance and bad play - common in my game. I know I will have losing days, losing weeks, maybe a losing month - but its how I deal with this that is important.

''it's not how hard u can hit, it's how hard u can get hit and keepin moving forward, that's how winning is down'' - Rocky Balboa!!
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05-24-2010 , 07:28 AM
wats the point in posting threads like this if u are not gonna give us your username
i mean seriously posting **** like "zomg i had a bad run tonite 2moro is a new dayy" etc
either post grafs or post s/n or something

btw listen to the guy above you stop playing on stars and get a rb acct somewhere
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05-24-2010 , 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Schoolboy
i am goin to play a few 1000 hands at 5nl
Quote:
Originally Posted by Schoolboy
i will play poker to my strengths and will not be fazed by the money involved.
sorry op i had to quote this
i do wish u the best of luck tho
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05-24-2010 , 09:59 AM
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Originally Posted by lolmahaha
wats the point in posting threads like this if u are not gonna give us your username
i mean seriously posting **** like "zomg i had a bad run tonite 2moro is a new dayy" etc
either post grafs or post s/n or something

btw listen to the guy above you stop playing on stars and get a rb acct somewhere
wat was this about? wats the point posting in someones thread if u havent god anythin productive to say? i was just wondering out of interest thats all, alot of people in these forums know me and my screenname, its not like its a secret. I was just wonderin why a complete randomer just asks for my screenname thats all. i have no problem givin it out if i know why the interest is there, so relax man.

the reason i didnt post graphs was cause i only play 3 micro buy in tourneys, and my challenge hadnt started? i had deep runs but just fell short of the cash.

and i have rakeback with ftp, but i want to play on stars cause the rewards are much better with volume. I can play both easy if i want.

i was actually readin ur thread earlier and was gonna pm u cause im 19 too and i could relate to ur poker goals and strategy and wish ya luck, but that outburst was uncalled for, wat diff does it make to u wat i post/dont post here?
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05-24-2010 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by lolmahaha
wats the point in posting threads like this if u are not gonna give us your username
i mean seriously posting **** like "zomg i had a bad run tonite 2moro is a new dayy" etc
either post grafs or post s/n or something

btw listen to the guy above you stop playing on stars and get a rb acct somewhere
wat was this about? wats the point posting in someones thread if u havent god anythin productive to say? i was just wondering out of interest thats all, alot of people in these forums know me and my screenname, its not like its a secret. I was just wonderin why a complete randomer just asks for my screenname thats all. i have no problem givin it out if i know why the interest is there, so relax man.

the reason i didnt post graphs was cause i only play 3 micro buy in tourneys, and my challenge hadnt started? i had deep runs but just fell short of the cash.

and i have rakeback with ftp, but i want to play on stars cause the rewards are much better with volume. I can play both easy if i want.

i was actually readin ur thread earlier and was gonna pm u cause im 19 too and i could relate to ur poker goals and strategy and wish ya luck, but that outburst was uncalled for, wat diff does it make to u wat i post/dont post here?
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05-24-2010 , 11:08 AM
k ill break it down for u..
when u make such a thread it really should be 2nd nature for u to post your screename in the op
ppl reading this forum
want to see your sharkscope
want to see pt3 stats or HEM or watever
want to see ptr cash game donking graphs
opr if u play donkaments etc
if u dont wish to divulge such information its kool and i totally understand but if thats the case u shouldnt really be making a thread like this imo

ppl who browse this particular forum either want to draw some motivation from your success or laugh at your trainwreck a very good example of multiple tr is bandichime threads search him and u wont be disappointed

/rant
seriosly though i hope u get where u wanna get by the end of this year
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05-25-2010 , 02:19 PM
yea thats ok i understand that, i was just wary thats all. i was goin to post it on my first update.
Had a break even session yesterday - put in 1880 hands of 5nl, profit of a 1.10 or somethin..

OMGbrainless on stars
Schoolboy90 on ftp

And best of luck with ur goals too lolmahaha
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05-25-2010 , 02:21 PM
I'm just starting for tonite now - will play 5nl again with a tourney or 2 on the side - playin both sites
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05-28-2010 , 02:20 PM
trying to work out what would be the easiest score tonite -

a home game - €10 entry with 1 rebuy - probably an €80 first prize
cash game grind - 5nl - 16 table - 3 and half hours
mtt grind - micro stakes - 5/6 table

mmm... all are possibly profitable, im thinkin if i start an mtt grind and go out early i could go to the home game... i could alway play cash and then head but i would prefer to take advantage of the weekend for mtts. i will be playing cash all next week to get fpps for my silver/gold status.
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05-28-2010 , 05:41 PM
Ah Current BR - 150 -> 130

not a good nite, probably shouldnt have played so many tourneys when i was feelin so tired. but i had to play some poker and wasnt really up for a grinding session. maybe i should have studied a bit or somethin. the home game is on tomoro nite so maybe i'll head there.

bubbled 1 tourney when i got it in post flop JJvsQQ ( QQ limped in mid pre - i had to shove on the 74T flop. i was card dead in a few and short stacked, tried to bluff for a few pots but forgot i was playin donkaments and my opponents were never folding T6 for top pair on a draw heavy board. ah well, tomoro is another day, i'll get some rest tonite. determined to at least have a break even week for my first one, i couldnt start the challenge losing!
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05-31-2010 , 02:11 PM
took a big step in the right direction, my tourney mentality really helped me last nite in the $2.20 6max on stars, came 4/5122 to take down a 4th place prize of $537. bad news tho, i lost holding AA to 99, could have taken down that 4 figure score i want so bad.

Last weeks results:
Online roll: $662
Live roll: $55
Total:$717 - a nice end to a week that didnt go according to plan. I play alot better when i have something to prove.
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06-09-2010 , 05:01 PM
ah well, im terrible at updating this, so im just gonna let u know how im gettin on, o always forget about this! so for anyone who is interested:
My aims for this summer (June-August)

-Become a winning player: 25nl by the end of the summer

-Reach silver/gold status on stars - or iron man on full tilt - this isnt an issue, i dont have enough time for any serious volume atm, its more hour sessions here and there at night.
-Play and have a few good runs in the mini series of poker hosted by ftp - focusing on other tourneys rather than strictly the series - it seems pointless

-Have a few 3 figure tourney scores. - only one so far, but a few nice 2 fig scores that boosted my roll nicely

-Take down a 4 figured score - it will come!

-Become a more frequent poster and researcher on 2+2 - devote more time -to study, paying attention to the strategy forums. I want to spend an hour a day studying

-Keep disciplined - playing within my BRM, but permission to take shots at tournaments every so often

-Play in the Sunday Million - once my tourney game has improved

-Improve my live play, and play live on a weekly/fortnightly basis.

-Learn a new game, along with improve my PLO game.

the other goals are goin according to schedule. BR around $750 again after a bad run at cash games - i reall suck at those!
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06-09-2010 , 06:22 PM
Veni, Vidi, Vici!

GL
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