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Old 03-03-2019, 02:52 PM   #1
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Club HS PLO Live Pro streams online poker inebriated!

Hi guys I'm Rin/Inky, or Rinky, and I stream as @RinPoker on twitch!



I've been in the poker world as a pro and 2+2/etc for something like 10 years now, ever since starting to play online poker during my university days, all the way through black friday, switching from various game formats, SnGs, MTTs, 6 Max Cash, HUSnGs, HU Cash, live NL, PLO, and some live tournaments.

I'd spent the first 4-5 years of my career playing online mostly, but eventually the games got tough and I got burnt out from poker and life/mental health stuff, and it became easier to play live poker instead of always having to fight to stay on top.

That said, I'd always played fairly competitively and at a reasonably high level. I've played up to 25/50 for the last 7 years or so, though my main game fluctuated between 5/10 and 10/25 depending on the availability. I still play some NL, but 80% of my volume is not PLO.

Here are some graphs of my previous 2 year's results at 2/5+



In the last 2 years I'd given I've been doing much better in things outside of poker and have started to really study and work on my game again and become more competitive, as a result, I tried giving online poker a shot again.

It started off really well, but by the end of last year my health deteriorated and I started running bad and self doubt crept in, and I gave it a pause. Still I had really good results at 1/2 PLO zoom, though I broke even/lost before rakeback at my 2/5 shots.

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Anyway, things are a bit calmer now, and although I'm still mainly playing live, I'm enjoying being at home with my friends/family more and not staying up late all the time, so I've decided to spend a bit more of my time studying and playing online instead of just grinding every hour of the night.

I've always enjoyed coaching, mentoring, or making coaching/review videos on some occasions, and after seeing some poker friends do some casual streaming (shoutout HorseofHell and Brudi, and the rest of the PLOMatrix crew for the support) I got the itch and gave it a try, and I've really enjoyed it.

I've always been not super keen on the idea because I respect my privacy, I get self conscious about my play being analysed or critiqued, or even just spreading too much information about the game and my own play style around, but YOLO, and I think if you enjoy it, you enjoy it, plus I highly doubt I'd get a large enough viewing that my educational videos would teach more than what some other more famous PLO streamers and coaches are already doing.

So even though originally I had planned to only stream low stakes or mixed games to mix around, I've decided to just full on grind 1/2 zoom as I would usually and stream with commentary.

I'm a fairly experienced coach/mentor and would be happy to respond to any questions either here in this thread and on stream, either strategical or just in general about being a poker pro, life decisions as a poker player, or mental health stuff, relationship stuff, lgbt stuff, or other hippy hipster goodie two shoes stuff, all of which I am an expert at

Right now I don't have a schedule as live poker is still my priority. I think I will probably stream every Saturday and Sunday, and potentially set up a schedule for that in the future, and pepper in some shorter streams throughout the week!

I'm hoping to stream some special events in the future, mostly involving me getting.. intoxicated with a friend or some famous person (or both), and doing some kind of interview, shooting the breeze, or headsup4rollz on stream with no delay. Or you know, all of the above!

Aside from PLO, I've also been interested in getting back into play NLHE and headsup, so when the opportunity comes I will start learning those games afresh, and post my progress and you can join me as I figure out how much the game has flown me by! If I'm lucky I can grab some of my HS NLHE friends to rail me on stream and laugh at me too! Preferably inebriated!

You can find my page with my user name @RinPoker, and also in my Bio. I'd done a stream already today and have a couple of older videos, and I plan on streaming again tonight. I'll post some hands after the session for those who don't feel like watching the stream or cannot!

Thanks for reading!



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Old 03-03-2019, 04:14 PM   #2
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what usa hours will you be streaming?
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Old 03-03-2019, 04:15 PM   #3
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damn bro your screen is so small I couldn't see the cards!
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Old 03-03-2019, 04:28 PM   #4
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Re: HS PLO Live Pro streams online poker inebriated!

Correction! It seems I wrote "but 80% of my volume is not PLO" but I meant to write "but 80% of my volume is now PLO"

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damn bro your screen is so small I couldn't see the cards!
Apologies! I will be playing zoom more so I might be able to make the screen a bit bigger now, at least only 4 max.

Also I will be streaming in a couple of minutes! I can't say what it will be in the future, but USA morning and evening on saturdays and sundays would be the starting point. Unfortunately I can't really set a schedule on the other days as the grind must take priority.
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Old 03-03-2019, 06:20 PM   #5
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you're kinda on the loose side. I saw you open AQo33, is that usually a playable hand live? I insta-muck stuff like that.
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AQ33ss? That's a standard open, yes ^.^ It's a very strong hand for raising first in, even if queen suit.

Live is live, depends on so many factors; I would still usually open if nut suit.
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It was offsuit
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AQ33ss? That's a standard open, yes ^.^ It's a very strong hand for raising first in, even if queen suit.
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AQ33ss? That's a standard open, yes ^.^ It's a very strong hand for raising first in, even if queen suit.

Live is live, depends on so many factors; I would still usually open if nut suit.
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Ctrl+F > typed "A(Q3)3" > confirmed top 45% hand. "very strong hand" not confirmed. Unplayable from ep/mp
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I play a lot of suited aces but offsuit I think it's trash
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Re: HS PLO Live Pro streams online poker inebriated!

Just like me to embarrass myself on the first page!

You're right, I have both overstated slightly ("a very strong hand" may be said a bit more strongly than intended) and overestimated that particular hand strength a little, I suppose I was more emphasising that it's a playable hand, though after checking solver it seems that it's a borderline open in the CO with the queen suit. Still I think it's a reasonable hand to expand to for CO opens. That said in the actual hand on stream I did open it from MP, which is a -293msb open on my solver, so, oops!

In general I do open slightly too loose in EP (1-2% more than solver) so this is probably one of the categories I open a bit too much of. That said A(K3)3 is still a solid MP open and AQ33 with non nut suit is a fairly small combo so this is probably a fairly rare occurrence, so I imagine it's a relatively small leak in the grand scheme of things. Still good to watch it though.

Anyway, here are some hands from stream

PokerStars - $2 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 571.14 BB (VPIP: 37.33, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 78)
SB: 187.84 BB (VPIP: 35.68, PFR: 20.54, 3Bet Preflop: 8.39, Hands: 379)
BB: 67.01 BB (VPIP: 16.39, PFR: 11.48, 3Bet Preflop: 1.37, Hands: 187)
UTG: 107.24 BB (VPIP: 21.70, PFR: 12.55, 3Bet Preflop: 5.34, Hands: 480)
MP: 104.35 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 15.63, Hands: 82)
Hero (CO): 296.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A 3 A

fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, Hero calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (8.5 BB, 2 players) 2 9 J
MP bets 5.82 BB, Hero calls 5.82 BB

Turn: (20.13 BB, 2 players) 6
MP bets 13.77 BB, Hero calls 13.77 BB

River: (47.67 BB, 2 players) 2
MP bets 12.97 BB, Hero raises to 85.19 BB, fold

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So this one is a weird one. Pre, flop, turn seem relatively standard, but on that river card I'd be happy to get check checked, but once villain bets, we generally don't have too many nfb hands in our range, but still a fair number of value hands, so it seems jamming is better, but our hand does have some bluff catch potential, so I'm not too sure.

That said it'd suck if what happens in the next hand happens:

PokerStars - $2 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 103.63 BB
SB: 53.63 BB
BB: 100 BB (VPIP: 23.40, PFR: 13.83, 3Bet Preflop: 5.93, Hands: 287)
UTG: 111.76 BB (VPIP: 85.71, PFR: 42.86, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 7)
MP: 296.19 BB (VPIP: 21.77, PFR: 14.29, 3Bet Preflop: 1.64, Hands: 148)
CO: 104.2 BB (VPIP: 15.79, PFR: 10.53, 3Bet Preflop: 9.38, Hands: 78)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K A 3 J

UTG calls 1 BB, fold, fold, Hero raises to 4.5 BB, fold, fold, UTG calls 3.5 BB

Flop: (10.5 BB, 2 players) 3 A 8
UTG bets 9.98 BB, Hero calls 9.98 BB

Turn: (30.45 BB, 2 players) 4
UTG checks, Hero checks

River: (30.45 BB, 2 players) Q
UTG bets 16 BB, Hero calls 16 BB

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I don't even know anymore, did I just get massively owned? Takeaway: always pot nfb??

Here's a fun hand; I didn't recognise villain but a viewer told me he is usually quite tight, which makes the hand even more inexplicable. K blocker!!

PokerStars - $2 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 442.73 BB (VPIP: 17.12, PFR: 12.33, 3Bet Preflop: 5.17, Hands: 147)
SB: 228.09 BB (VPIP: 31.57, PFR: 18.23, 3Bet Preflop: 5.40, Hands: 5,603)
BB: 108.1 BB (VPIP: 26.61, PFR: 16.53, 3Bet Preflop: 6.31, Hands: 253)
UTG: 88.57 BB (VPIP: 31.25, PFR: 6.25, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 16)
Hero (MP): 153.21 BB
CO: 105.25 BB (VPIP: 18.79, PFR: 12.12, 3Bet Preflop: 4.41, Hands: 168)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has 6 A 7 A

fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, CO calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (8.5 BB, 2 players) 9 2 6
Hero checks, CO bets 6.06 BB, Hero raises to 26.24 BB, CO raises to 86.8 BB, Hero raises to 147.35 BB, CO calls 14.96 BB and is all-in

Turn: (212 BB, 2 players) 3

River: (212 BB, 2 players) 6
Players agreed to run it twice.

Turn #2: (212 BB, 2 players) 5

River #2: (212 BB, 2 players) T

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Here's another hand I'm quite unsure about:

PokerStars - $2 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 193.28 BB
SB: 95.5 BB
BB: 110.48 BB
UTG: 103.23 BB
Hero (MP): 249.23 BB
CO: 383.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K A 8

fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, CO raises to 12 BB, fold, SB calls 11.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (37 BB, 3 players) J 3 4
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets 21 BB, fold, Hero calls 21 BB

Turn: (79 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO bets 36.27 BB, Hero calls 36.27 BB

River: (151.54 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 75.09 BB, CO calls 75.09 BB

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On a K river I feel like villain would be checking a big chunk of their range (AA and some trips), so leading seems reasonable, which I might want to do with any of my hands with no real SDV, but I'm just not sure on sizing. My default would be to pot, but I think I sized down exploitatively because I feel like there aren't going to be many boat combos in his range, but if I'm going to try to get a thin hero call against me anyway I should be potting. That said my experience is that people do tend to nit up quite a bit vs a psb on the river especially on a donk bet like this. Still I'm not very fond of the choice, and to be clear I said this before I saw what he called me with!

Finally, a hand I didn't butcher. I had been try to get my x/r up. Alas, it was still less than solver frequencies. Try better next time I suppose.

PokerStars - $2 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 117.75 BB (VPIP: 14.77, PFR: 10.23, 3Bet Preflop: 5.88, Hands: 89)
SB: 130.84 BB (VPIP: 23.88, PFR: 12.69, 3Bet Preflop: 6.61, Hands: 272)
BB: 196.86 BB (VPIP: 29.00, PFR: 16.44, 3Bet Preflop: 4.64, Hands: 1,600)
Hero (UTG): 109.86 BB
MP: 40.1 BB (VPIP: 20.00, PFR: 0.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 5)
CO: 139.86 BB (VPIP: 24.56, PFR: 14.86, 3Bet Preflop: 6.61, Hands: 2,478)

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A 6 8 5

Hero raises to 3.5 BB, MP calls 3.5 BB, CO calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (12 BB, 3 players) 7 7 A
Hero checks, MP checks, CO bets 3.76 BB, Hero raises to 17.01 BB, fold, fold

Spoiler:


I was pleased to find that this x/r was actually solver approved (tm), because I've done enough loosecrushing and spewing this stream. Still, if you don't let yourself make mistakes, you don't learn. That's what I say to myself anyway.
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PokerStars - $2 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 193.28 BB
SB: 95.5 BB
BB: 110.48 BB
UTG: 103.23 BB
Hero (MP): 249.23 BB
CO: 383.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K K A 8

fold, Hero raises to 3.5 BB, CO raises to 12 BB, fold, SB calls 11.5 BB, fold, Hero calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (37 BB, 3 players) J 3 4
SB checks, Hero checks, CO bets 21 BB, fold, Hero calls 21 BB

Turn: (79 BB, 2 players) 3
Hero checks, CO bets 36.27 BB, Hero calls 36.27 BB

River: (151.54 BB, 2 players) K
Hero bets 75.09 BB, CO calls 75.09 BB

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Good stuff and nice job crushing live poker--I'm assuming these are full ring 9 or 10 handed? Also, over time, I believe you will adjust to knowing that people are viewing your stream and you will get over the nervousness of it all. I've seen your posts in the strategy forums and I think you contribute some cool thoughts.

I had a question about the quoted hand. I feel like I am over folding my big pocket pairs to a cbet. Is this a standard call for you with KK? Is it because you have the K? Does this mean that you will be bluffing club flushes some of the time?

Also, what do you think of villain's 3bet preflop? I find having the dangler 3, in JT93 seriously devalues villain's hand.

Thanks and I hope to see more streams from you in the future.
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Good stuff and nice job crushing live poker--I'm assuming these are full ring 9 or 10 handed? Also, over time, I believe you will adjust to knowing that people are viewing your stream and you will get over the nervousness of it all. I've seen your posts in the strategy forums and I think you contribute some cool thoughts.

I had a question about the quoted hand. I feel like I am over folding my big pocket pairs to a cbet. Is this a standard call for you with KK? Is it because you have the K? Does this mean that you will be bluffing club flushes some of the time?

Also, what do you think of villain's 3bet preflop? I find having the dangler 3, in JT93 seriously devalues villain's hand.

Thanks and I hope to see more streams from you in the future.
Thanks for the kind words!

The games I play in are usually 9 handed, though it sometimes gets down to 7 when they want to play 4/5/6 card, though I am not a huge fan of that, mostly because people play very very slow and limpy.

Yeah starting to stream takes some getting used to, but I'm enjoying myself!

So about the hand, the Kc is a very strong card to have in our peeling range and gives us lots of options, and in general having the nut flush draw blocker makes us a lot more keen to cbet, peel, or even raise bluff.

In this case however, our hand is just too strong. This is a board that is cbet a lot by preflop 3bettor because it heavily favors a 3bettor's range of having lots of AA and defenders not having lots of AA. Not only is the 3 and 4 not connected enough (and too low), it gives a lot of those AA that the 3bettor has extra equity with wheel draws. Thus the preflop aggressor will end up cbetting a much higher frequency on this board than say J67ss.

The strength of villain's range, however, is still mostly supported by AA, and our AKK both blocks AA, and is also a very robust hand against the other sections of his range that are bluffs filled in and supported by AA, so it's just a very strong hand in general, and one of the stronger made hands we can have on this board for calling down bricks. We will of course have pair + draws or some sets occasionally, but in terms of just made hands that call down on bricks and board pairs, as happens in the actual hand, our hand is one of the better ones; most of our other hands would just fold on those cards, so this hand is just a slamdunk have to have in our call.

Generally speaking, if we defend AKK, and a board is good for AA, then we're going to want to stick around.

As for bluffing clubs, I think our hand has a bit too much sdv to be doing that too much, but that's definitely an option on the worst of run outs (7, 6 with a club, for instance.

Note of course it being 3 way does complicate things a little and makes everyone's range a little bit tighter, but the concepts still mostly apply, as a cold calling range does poorly on this board, so he should still be cbetting quite a lot.

As for his 3bet, well people will get out of line sometimes, but actually this hand is a very small frequency 3bet on some rake structures at 100bbs, and the EV is not too far off from calling, which is the majority play with the hand. JT9ds is just quite a strong combo in general. Especially considering we're super deep, it would not surprise me if it's actually a standard play with that hand.

Today I played some live, and won a little bit.



Some guy was buying in 7k or so in 20s, which was kind of funny. This reminds me, I once played in a game where someone tried to (and did) buy in 70k in 5s and 10s (some 20s I think), and was later told he was a gangster. Pretty funny, though I was told to not ever cross him. Thankfully for us, my friend and I lost in that game. XD
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Good to run bad when gangster EV is taken into account.

Thanks for the nice reply. I have some things to think about. Cheers.
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700+ notes for 1 stack lol. Imagine someone who isn't a gangster trying to do that for a £700 stack in £1...
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how did i not spot this straight away, subbed
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OP is live crusher??? Where are these mythical live games?!
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PokerStars - $2 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 571.14 BB (VPIP: 37.33, PFR: 20.00, 3Bet Preflop: 0.00, Hands: 78)
SB: 187.84 BB (VPIP: 35.68, PFR: 20.54, 3Bet Preflop: 8.39, Hands: 379)
BB: 67.01 BB (VPIP: 16.39, PFR: 11.48, 3Bet Preflop: 1.37, Hands: 187)
UTG: 107.24 BB (VPIP: 21.70, PFR: 12.55, 3Bet Preflop: 5.34, Hands: 480)
MP: 104.35 BB (VPIP: 30.77, PFR: 23.08, 3Bet Preflop: 15.63, Hands: 82)
Hero (CO): 296.1 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A 3 A

fold, MP raises to 3.5 BB, Hero calls 3.5 BB, fold, fold, fold

Flop: (8.5 BB, 2 players) 2 9 J
MP bets 5.82 BB, Hero calls 5.82 BB

Turn: (20.13 BB, 2 players) 6
MP bets 13.77 BB, Hero calls 13.77 BB

River: (47.67 BB, 2 players) 2
MP bets 12.97 BB, Hero raises to 85.19 BB, fold

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So this one is a weird one. Pre, flop, turn seem relatively standard, but on that river card I'd be happy to get check checked, but once villain bets, we generally don't have too many nfb hands in our range, but still a fair number of value hands, so it seems jamming is better, but our hand does have some bluff catch potential, so I'm not too sure.
Do you raise nut flush for value here this sizing? I wouldn't have expected so which makes NFB less relevant
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Welcome everybody!

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Do you raise nut flush for value here this sizing? I wouldn't have expected so which makes NFB less relevant
Actually, with a blocker, we're not trying to block the hands we want to have; rather, we want to block their value betting and bet/call range!

Since NF is one of the hands he'd be value betting (and potentially calling) here, blocking it means there's a higher chance he is bluffing or value betting thinly, which adds to the total fold equity we have.

Of course, in this case, blocking the nut flush isn't going to affect his hero call frequency much, as he's mostly going to call based on pair blockers, but being able to reduce his value bet combos still increase our overall fold equity in a situation where we think it's not good to call.

That said I'm not sure if I do like the bluff.

Anyway, I had a nice little stream earlier today. I paid some uni student some money to make some art for me and spent some time fixing my layout and adding hotkeys so I can focus the screen on individual tables. It actually takes a lot of focus, at least for now, to get used to. Last stream I also tried to do it, but I kept misclicking and I had to change my hotkeys to stop it from happening. It also meant between that and replying to questions I was really not focusing on the game. My loss is your reward though, I spewed a ton.

It was fun though, and I'll start up another one soon, so check in if you're around.

In the meantime, let me show off some tragedy:

PokerStars - $2 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 589.87 BB
SB: 100.5 BB
Hero (BB): 206.26 BB
UTG: 322.62 BB
MP: 186.07 BB
CO: 68.8 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, Hero posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has A A 7 8

fold, fold, CO raises to 3 BB, BTN calls 3 BB, fold, Hero raises to 12.5 BB, CO calls 9.5 BB, BTN calls 9.5 BB

Flop: (38 BB, 3 players) J 4 2
Hero bets 18.32 BB, CO calls 18.32 BB, BTN calls 18.32 BB

Turn: (92.95 BB, 3 players) Q
Hero bets 91.57 BB, CO calls 37.98 BB and is all-in, BTN calls 91.57 BB

River: (314.07 BB, 3 players) 4
Hero checks, BTN bets 312.69 BB, Hero calls 83.87 BB and is all-in

Spoiler:


This spot is just really gross. In the moment I was a bit flustered with the many tables and talking and I kind of just clicked call, but with such pot odds (200bbs in the sidepot alone) and enough draws missing I'm not sure I necessarily should have folded.

That said, &*^&*( jokerstars runout.

PokerStars - $2 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 105.98 BB
SB: 158.7 BB
BB: 199.54 BB
Hero (UTG): 102.94 BB
MP: 124.97 BB
CO: 100 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K 3 6 K

Hero raises to 3.5 BB, MP raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, fold, fold, Hero calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (25.5 BB, 2 players) 7 6 3
Hero checks, MP checks

Turn: (25.5 BB, 2 players) 4
Hero checks, MP bets 8.5 BB, Hero calls 8.5 BB

River: (42.5 BB, 2 players) 7
Hero checks, MP bets 32.9 BB, Hero raises to 82.44 BB and is all-in, MP calls 49.54 BB

Spoiler:


Here we just get snapped off.

PokerStars - $2 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 140.14 BB
SB: 654.94 BB
BB: 98.7 BB
Hero (UTG): 356.84 BB
MP: 99.5 BB
CO: 67.92 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J T 9

Hero raises to 3.5 BB, fold, fold, BTN calls 3.5 BB, fold, BB calls 2.5 BB

Flop: (11 BB, 3 players) A 6 3
BB checks, Hero checks, BTN bets 6.9 BB, fold, Hero calls 6.9 BB

Turn: (24.79 BB, 2 players) T
Hero checks, BTN checks

River: (24.79 BB, 2 players) 8
Hero checks, BTN bets 23.55 BB, Hero raises to 94.2 BB, BTN raises to 129.74 BB and is all-in, fold

Spoiler:


Here we also get snapped off.

PokerStars - $2 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

Hero (BTN): 164.65 BB
SB: 104.35 BB
BB: 627.05 BB
UTG: 156.98 BB
MP: 47 BB
CO: 165.5 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has K J 4 6

fold, fold, CO raises to 3.5 BB, Hero raises to 12 BB, fold, fold, CO calls 8.5 BB

Flop: (25.5 BB, 2 players) 6 2 8
CO checks, Hero bets 12.12 BB, CO calls 12.12 BB

Turn: (49.73 BB, 2 players) 5
CO checks, Hero checks

River: (49.73 BB, 2 players) K
CO bets 42.55 BB, Hero calls 42.55 BB

Spoiler:


And here he just... well... has it.

This one actually is a bit weirder. Preflop is not standard, but KJ65 is a 3b, and, reads blah blah blah seems close enough. On stream I said I should probably check (at least based on 100bb play), but perhaps again because of my read on the villain I felt like a bit is okay. I also went for smaller, not being sure; I know at 100bbs we'd be potting most of our bet range, but with this hand and at 160bbs it seemed like smaller is better, but I am not sure if that's true with out particular hand, so I actually quite dislike this hand in general.

Turn and river is just, you know. I don't know how to really think about his flop call range and if there's going to be like AT98 and such enough that would take this line even, but we do have a fairly strong hand in this spot. I don't know if villain would even lead turn with his straights so he may have more value hands than he's even supposed to.

Gotta end on a high note though! Here's a massive pot I scooped:

PokerStars - $2 PL Hi FAST (6 max) - Omaha Hi - 6 players
Hand converted by PokerTracker 4

BTN: 95.77 BB
SB: 584.82 BB
BB: 104.14 BB
UTG: 266.51 BB
Hero (MP): 193.08 BB
CO: 166 BB

SB posts SB 0.5 BB, BB posts BB 1 BB

Pre Flop: (pot: 1.5 BB) Hero has Q T A Q

UTG raises to 3.5 BB, Hero calls 3.5 BB, CO calls 3.5 BB, BTN calls 3.5 BB, fold, BB raises to 21.5 BB, UTG calls 18 BB, Hero raises to 93.5 BB, fold, fold, BB raises to 104.14 BB and is all-in, UTG raises to 266.51 BB and is all-in, Hero calls 99.58 BB and is all-in

Flop: (497.79 BB, 3 players) 3 Q J

Turn: (497.79 BB, 3 players) Q

River: (497.79 BB, 3 players) 6

Spoiler:


Not even gonna bother analyzing this one. 36% 3 way and 53% equity headsup, seems like a cooler to me!
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Old 03-10-2019, 04:46 PM   #22
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Re: HS PLO Live Pro streams online poker inebriated!

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Old 03-14-2019, 10:18 AM   #23
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Re: HS PLO Live Pro streams online poker inebriated!

Hello there! A quick question! What do you think is the most +EV to master to play highstakes? NLHE or PLO? What is the most profitable in your mind for the upcoming years?Are there enough games for high stakes PLO cash? Also for example NLhe was said to be dead but we see many people still making 6 or even 7 figures profit from it.
I really want to hear from someone good and smart who plays PLO and the reasons behind it.
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Re: HS PLO Live Pro streams online poker inebriated!

Hey Veggie,

I think that answer is too dependent on circumstances to really answer. Not only does it depend on what the future brings, it depends on where you live geographically, and a lot of personal life factors.

There's certainly enough game availability for either if you're good enough. Recently NLHE has had a resurgence, and PLO is becoming tougher, but I would generally still prefer PLO for it. A lot of what I know is based on hearsay, from people I trust, but hearsay nonetheless. The games and how good they are also fluctuate a lot every few months, and every person's opinion would be affected by sample size, so I don't think there's much I can do to get deeper than that.

They are both close enough that I'd focus on the game that you enjoy most or feel most motivated to play, and also that you have more short term access to.

If you're truly a talented player, you should be able to switch between them.

I personally prefer NLHE in a game vs weaker creative players, but such as it is, PLO allows pushing of edges more vs tighter or less wild players.
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Old 03-18-2019, 04:14 AM   #25
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Thanks for the answer! I am talking mostly about online cash games since i dont have access to much live anyway!
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