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10-09-2017 , 03:47 AM
Hope you're well Matt and best of luck with your MTT endeavours.

Glad to hear Macau went well )

All the best

Robert Duboff
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10-09-2017 , 12:17 PM
I can sort of understand the move home with not wanting to be stuck (no pun intended) out in Macau in your latter 20s and socially missing out, makes sense. It must be v tough though playing low stakes (comparatively) online mtts vs nosebleed live cash vs whales. But possibly nice change vs 36hr stressful sessions I guess. Will you balance it somewhat with some higher stakes live cash here in London? As a side note I remember being in a private 5/10 (could’ve been slightly higher) game in the basement of a nightclub in central London one evening 4-5yrs ago (?), I think you were in that game iirc (you wouldn’t know who I am!)

Good luck!
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10-09-2017 , 12:41 PM
interesting thread, subbed & GL
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10-11-2017 , 10:50 AM
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Interesting thread. Question tho, will you be exclusively playing MTTs for the year or are you still mixing HS cash? And if you are still playing HS cash will that be part of this thread?
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I will still do trips to Macau, I think I will spend approx 3 months there over the next 12, with the other 9 being focused on MTTs when I'm playing. I might do small updates on that but I will mostly be focused on MTTs as that is my main challenge, getting good at those.

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Nice thread mate. Played with you a bit at the beginning of the day yesterday at DTD. How did you get on in the end? Any interesting hands?
Nice, I ended up coming fourth which I was really pleased with because I felt like I played really well and I have a tendency to lose my head on final tables due to excitement. I played a ton of interesting hands:

played a big one vs Jamie O'Connor (Boz) where I opened UTG1 w KTss to 130k at 60k blind, he peeled SB, BB folded. Flop was QJJhhs he ch I ch back, I think this flop absolutely smashes his range so I don't need to cbet it much at all. Turn 4s he ch I bet 225k into 380k, he raises to 650k, I call river 7s he shoves 1.4M and I call but am not that happy about it since I really think everybody is underbluffing here but there's really only two combos that beat me so I have to call, call and he has AJ which gave me chiplead w 16 left.

Then played a kind of spew hand which also was a live misclick making it a lot worse to give a ton of those chips back:

Open A3cc UTG1 130k this guy has shown a tendency to way over 3 bet with his offsuit broadways and he 3bets button to 375k playing 2.1M. I've been over active opening wise and it seemed like he was the type to go after that in position. On top of that I think he's only 3bet calling JJ+ AK so I think he's gonna be way over folding in this spot. So i decided to just shove for the 35BB after asking what he had and he said 2.1M. If my assumptions are correct I think the shove is good but they do need to be quite accurate.

He snap calls me w AQo, so obviously I was wrong and got pretty solidly owned. On top of that it turns out he had 2.1M back, so it was actually a 41BB shove not a 35BB shove. So solid spew in the end.

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Originally Posted by Robert12345
Hope you're well Matt and best of luck with your MTT endeavours.

Glad to hear Macau went well )

All the best

Robert Duboff
thanks mate nice to hear from you

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Originally Posted by dappadan777
I can sort of understand the move home with not wanting to be stuck (no pun intended) out in Macau in your latter 20s and socially missing out, makes sense. It must be v tough though playing low stakes (comparatively) online mtts vs nosebleed live cash vs whales. But possibly nice change vs 36hr stressful sessions I guess. Will you balance it somewhat with some higher stakes live cash here in London? As a side note I remember being in a private 5/10 (could’ve been slightly higher) game in the basement of a nightclub in central London one evening 4-5yrs ago (?), I think you were in that game iirc (you wouldn’t know who I am!)

Good luck!
It's not as tough as you might imagine, at least not yet. I'm genuinely still really just enjoying playing to try and get better, so the fact that the stakes are much lower haven't really affected my motivation. Perhaps in future I will start to get bored of it but right now my focus is on getting better.

Today I'm off to 888Live in London to play a £2k and then me and my friends are doing a weekend trip away so I'm not sure I'll be able to get any online sessions in until after the weekend
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10-11-2017 , 12:31 PM
Good luck mate, I have recently been trying to get into mtt's so will be really interesting for me to follow your progress.

Have you ever played in that short deck game that Jungleman was talking about with ChicagoJoey?.
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10-18-2017 , 02:25 AM
So as a quick update, I decided last minute to fly out to macau and play the big tournaments they have here right now and maybe some cash if I bust things early. There's pretty much a tournament to play every day though so probably won't be too much cash. Haven't been able to get any online play in as a result although I did get some more constructive study in.

Played the 250k six max yesterday, played really well was very happy with my focus and play but it's pretty turbo so TT vs KK and that was me.

Today I'm playing the 1M triton main event. Hoping to keep the focus I've had lately, play my best game and hopefully make the most of the deep blind levels today as that's where I'm best.

My Twitter is @mossy270, may update on there

Last edited by MossBoss; 10-18-2017 at 02:32 AM.
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10-19-2017 , 01:08 PM
Busted the 1M after taking a solid stack into day 2. Once again extremely happy with how I played and the entire experience filled me with confidence. I felt that I noticed plenty of mistakes that some top pros were making although this was mostly 100bb+ and I didn't think I made any obvious mistakes myself over the course of the 2 days.

I played a big hand in an early level w 160bb opening AKo utg vs dominik N utg1 3bet and then check called 3 big streets (flop was over 50%) on K74rT9 and beat AJ to get me started.

MP open SB Dan Smith call playing 220k @ 2.5/5k, i make 55k in BB w AKo, call and beat Dan's 88 reshove after MP also called my squeeze but then folded to the shove.

Made a couple of lighter 3bets against opponents I felt were opening too loose and had a tight image of me which all worked out, mostly stuck to what I consider to be appropriate ranges though throughout.

Then on day 2 I lost a couple of standard pots to chip down to 75bb (750k).

I then reshoved 230k KJo sb vs stefan schillabel btn AJo @ 10kbb lost

Then opened JTcc off 300k @ 10kbb to 23k, mateos makes it 80k in bb I call flop is Kc3d2d Mateos cbets 52k, wasn't sure if I should fold or float but I think overall I want to float, gives me some extra bluffs on some runouts and I have great backdoors. When I ran it in Pio, Pio wanted me to float JTcc always but it also wanted me to call all in on 4c turn for 162k. Said call was making 17k EV. Was surprised to see that result and given that my actual action was folding turn perhaps this makes flop call bad too. Was a tricky spot for sure.

Made a bluff vs Schillabel that I was really happy with. Peeled 33 off 430 (43bb) SB vs BTN 23k open w/ a tight BB. Flop AJJddh ch ch turn Ks. I decided to bet as I think 22-44 benefit loads from turning themselves into a 2 street bluff here. His air often has 12 outs, and vs bet turn, overbet river, all his non nutted hands are in a horrible spot and I had some reasons that I thought I might get more folds than average. So i bet 34k and bet 140k into 131k on 8o river. I ran the spot afterwards and Pio took my line at a low frequency, like 15% of its 33 combos, so the play is pushing it but certainly not outrageous. For river bluff to be breakeven/slightly losing it also requires he calls AQ AT KQ KT and some A7-A5 as well as almost always bluffing QQ TT based on my sim although I might have got the inputs wrong. If that's the case, and it's roughly how I was thinking in game to justify the bluff, then I'm pretty happy as I think it's extremely unlikely he really always goes for it w QQ TT and always makes that call w those best bluff catchers. Could well be wrong though.

Then i 3bet KTo btn vs stefan CO 78k vs 27k at 6k/12k/2k I was playing 350k. SB shoves 150k, I call and lose to AK.

Then raise call AKhh MP vs seidel 20bb reshove KK and suddenly left with 90k aka 7.5bb.

Busted by peeling J9o vs fairly tight utg 28k open at 6k/12k/2k. I peeled preflop w plan to shove any draw + pair since I think that my hand has enough equity to peel and with such short stacks is going to realise its equity really well. Flop was 983ssx, I shoved and got snapped by KK and the dream was over.

Really was happy though with my focus and the hands I played, felt like I pushed the envelope to the right amount, didn't get carried away but also didn't pussy out in spots either. Was extremely exhilarating to play a high stakes tournament and I hope to play many more. Guess if I do though I should probably keep my exact thought processes a little more guarded in case opponents read. I figure that almost all these hands went to showdown so shouldn't be a big deal.

Anyway, I'll be playing a solid session of live cash tomorrow as there's no big events and then will fire in for the 800k SHR ACOP on Saturday for more of the same. Looking forward to it for sure and really feeling on the ball at the moment in terms of my game which feels great.
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10-20-2017 , 08:23 AM
Thank you for the analysis. Really sounds like you're nailing PIO SIMS and hand ranges.

In your studying of MTTs, are you putting in ICM work? I believe this is also a gap between cash and tournament play.
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10-21-2017 , 01:56 PM
So today I played the 800k SHR ACOP. Field was a bit more agreeable today and I played some fairly insane hands.

This one was especially ridiculous but thank fk that MP had 55 and not SB! And pretty pleased to get that call with 44, if he finds the fold my stack gets decimated.

https://www.pokerstars.com/en/blog/t....shtml#whopper

After that I chipped up to 19M and was pretty happy with my play and my table, opening ranges were correct and expanded in right spots. I missed one squeeze w TT in bb vs SB wide flat and HIJ open. Didn't really want to squeeze get in 75bb with TT but also didnt wanna sqz/fold so I peeled. However when SB shows down K7hh which I guess is correct peel pre, feels like I should be squeezing more often to deny equity and get value vs wider ranges.

Anyway I got a little frustrated towards the end and made a pretty spew play against a wide and aggro BB line of peel BB vs UTG 2.15x flop 932r ch i bet 300 into 720, he calls. I size up this flop as i think a lot of my range wants to bet, some wants to deny equity vs wide peel and some wants to get value. Turn 9c bdfd he leads 1050k into 1320k and I raised to 3.8M when I should probably just fold. Think this was an ill disciplined hand and although I'm not gonna say my hand, I think my hand choice was not correct (although not too far from appropriate), so I'm annoyed at myself for getting out of line here and costing myself 3.8M. He called the 3.8M and then lead on 4 river for 1M into 9M and i was forced to fold which felt pretty stupid.


Lost a couple of hands before that which meant that I eventually bagged 12.5M which is 1.5x starting stack, down from 2.5x starting stack but still 75bb tomorrow and more than most people made on the day so I can't be too frustrated with the result, just a little annoyed at myself for playing less than perfectly in the last level of the day.

Back tomorrow at 1pm, hopefully get a decent nights sleep and come in refreshed, although my sleeping pattern has been pretty haywire.


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Originally Posted by daChimp
Thank you for the analysis. Really sounds like you're nailing PIO SIMS and hand ranges.

In your studying of MTTs, are you putting in ICM work? I believe this is also a gap between cash and tournament play.
Yes, I have been for sure, although given that currently I'm playing all these live tournaments I haven't had too many opportunities.

I definitely haven't done enough but basically every time I make a shove or consider one deep in a tournament or on a final table online I've been running the spot in ICMizer to get an idea of where I'm at. Some results have surprsied me for sure.
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10-29-2017 , 10:15 PM
Back from Macau now. I enjoyed playing all the highroller events and I certainly felt that my game was a lot sharper overall than it was, say, 6 months ago.

Initially I was really encouraged by how I felt I was faring against the world's big names and I certainly feel that my 75+bb game is at least on a par with most top tournament players.

However, at the 35-75bb range it slowly became clear to me that I've still got a long way to go. The areas I was most impressed by my opponents was finding leads on certain turns where I would have checked my entire range and also some flop leads too. I also found they worked in a few more flop check raises than I usually would.

One thing I noticed is that they were definitely doing less cbetting than me as EP-CO vs BB. Not sure how I feel about that as it was only a result of PIO sims that I started cbetting a lot of boards at 100% freq. Seems to me a lot of video makers and PIO itself agree with my approach. Examples being betting range at 40bb stack depth for 1/3 pot on K48r, K82ddx, Q53ssx, A83r, QQ4r, J22ddx, 422hhx. All boards that PIO suggest pushing your range advantage, apotheosis usually takes that approach too but I saw loads of top names checking back on these boards a ton, so I'm not sure what to make of it.

My short game (35bb-) has definitely come on in strides, the coaching I had + some software work has made me feel much better and very rarely lost off properly short stack sizes, although I still need to improve my sub 30bb game at all late positions, notably BB vs SB, SB vs BB, blinds vs BTN/CO & the reverse. I find that I'm too eager to shove in a lot of these situations and am getting myself all in more than I need to. One such spot I shoved 20bb w K6o SB vs BB which is winning chips but a friend I talked to recommended I solve the spot with a preflop solver as it prefers to limp this hand and plenty of other ones because although shoving is winning chips, a strategy which involves more limping with this hand + plenty others is winning more. So I will need to look into that.

One major hand I played was with 19 left in the 300k single day highroller. 760k stack, 8k/16k blinds. Average stack 550k.

Fish2013 opens SB to 52k playing 800k, I have AQdd.
I think fish is gonna be mixing limping and raising here and probably opening at least 20%, most likely more. I think therefore, even though it kind of sucks to possibly get stacks in with such a valuable stack, we're not that close to the money and AQdd is surely making too much money by 3betting (getting folds and getting calls out of position by dominated hands) that I have to 3bet/call, even though it's a pretty terrible results when he rips.

So I made it 168k, he shoved and I lost to KK. That was the closest one I came to cashing so it was a particularly frustrating hand but I'm happy with it overall. I think trying to avoid variance at the cost of fairly large EV when still more than 50% of field needs to bust before we make the money would be a mistake.

So tournaments wise the trip was pretty bad, but meh, I bricked 5 tournaments, not particularly surprising stuff. However I managed to win most of my money back in a few cash sessions so was only a small losing trip in the end. Definitely enjoyed the experience and it has really got me fired up to keep improving.

Study wise I have a really good computer out in Macau, much better than my UK one. So I was able to come home and PIO every hand I had questions over, which I did every day. On top of that I improved my familiarity with the software, learned to use it for looking at what assumptions I need to justify X exploitative play and also ran a script for 25bb play BTN vs BB which helped clear up some questions I'd had about that since it's a super common situation.

Just finished a low table count Sunday session. Mincashed like 4 tournaments so losing day but was very happy with most of my play and I particularly felt that my short stack play was improved.

Did make one raise call that I'm pretty sure was terrible. Raised 77 off 23bb UTG1, SB shoved 18bb and I called it off. When I double checked the lobby after the hand I saw that it was 63 paid and 85 left which I think makes it a fold, and it probably is a fold anyway.

Definitely think the next step is putting in the same work into HRC for all these spots as I have been doing lately with PIO as I think I've failed so far to really get comfortable with the short stack software compared to the postflop software.

Anyway, nice to be back in England and back playing some online. I'm pretty busy seeing friends for the next week so will only be able to squeeze in a few sessions here and there. Then I'll have one more week to buckle down before I head to Punta Cana on the 16th.
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10-30-2017 , 07:21 AM
out of the boards you listed that the top guys were checking back, I think 3 of them make good check backs (potentially with full range) however the other four pio is very high freq small size 20-33%psb, so the checks are probably exploit based, ie they think BB plays worse vs a check than vs a bet, less common spot etc..
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10-31-2017 , 03:49 PM
Interesting thread, GL.

I'm not playing anywhere near your stakes but I'm also a cash player who is playing more and more tournaments so I'll be interested to follow along.

You mentioned both ICMIZER and HRC, I was under the impression that they both did basically the same thing, do you find you need both of them?

Finally, I see you mentioned 3betting KTo on the BTN vs a German CO - I would have thought that would leave you with far too many offsuit bluffs in this spot which seems like a problem vs a well balanced player - are you finding a way to limit the number of these combos you 3bet, or was it an exploit?
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10-31-2017 , 06:45 PM
Amazing thread, thanks for the posts. Also a cash game player trying to improve on tournament strat. I haven't used any of the software you mentioned but I have been watching all the big names play on Poker Masters on PokerGo which has been great. Where did all these Germans come from ?
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10-31-2017 , 07:28 PM
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out of the boards you listed that the top guys were checking back, I think 3 of them make good check backs (potentially with full range) however the other four pio is very high freq small size 20-33%psb, so the checks are probably exploit based, ie they think BB plays worse vs a check than vs a bet, less common spot etc..
which ones, the paired ones? I thought I ran all of them with like lojack vs BB ranges off 30-40bb and PIO had full range cbet on pretty much all. Maybe I got something wrong with my inputs.


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Interesting thread, GL.

I'm not playing anywhere near your stakes but I'm also a cash player who is playing more and more tournaments so I'll be interested to follow along.

You mentioned both ICMIZER and HRC, I was under the impression that they both did basically the same thing, do you find you need both of them?

Finally, I see you mentioned 3betting KTo on the BTN vs a German CO - I would have thought that would leave you with far too many offsuit bluffs in this spot which seems like a problem vs a well balanced player - are you finding a way to limit the number of these combos you 3bet, or was it an exploit?
Welcome

Yeah I think I just prefer the HRC interface. I bought ICMizer first tho so I've been using that which is why I mentioned both.



I think this is a reasonable 3 betting range for BTN vs CO sub 30bb where approx 50% of the combos are value which we dont fold to further action. That's been the rule of thumb I've followed for constructing a preflop range, do you think 50/50 is too unbalanced?

As you can see KTo is solidly in this range, might be better to take out JT replace w A9 but I just did it quickly to show a range where KT would fit in.

I much prefer flatting my suited combos off these stack sizes as they play so much better 3 way which is a very likely scenario given wide bb defense.

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Amazing thread, thanks for the posts. Also a cash game player trying to improve on tournament strat. I haven't used any of the software you mentioned but I have been watching all the big names play on Poker Masters on PokerGo which has been great. Where did all these Germans come from ?
Hey . Watched that coverage too, was pretty cool to be playing with them all a few weeks later even if it probably wasn't the greatest in terms of ev...

Yeah they have a strong team, definitely helps to have a bunch of other good poker brains to bounce your ideas off of.
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10-31-2017 , 10:50 PM
Today was going pretty terribly, bricked everything after 10xing my buy in on like 3 decent sized tournaments. Was playing really well I thought, decided to randomize a massive bluff at 10% freq in two spots where I rolled high and then got snap called both times. Bust super tuesday and 7pm party 500 and had just the 9pm 109 turbo uppercut on party left. If I got second place I would still be stuck on the day.

So quite nice to just outright bink it



weird colour is due to f.lux program which I just got and highly recommend, filters out the bluelight and lets you sleep easier after sessions.
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11-19-2017 , 03:28 AM
Cash Grind

So it's been a few weeks since my last post which is mostly due to an impromptu Macau trip that I had to do because a really big game kicked off and I felt like I couldn't miss out on it.

Within 3 hours of the big game kicking off I had booked a flight and I was in Macau around 18 hours later. By the time I arrived though, the game had died and the VIP it was running around had left. This is always a risk you take jetting across for one game though, and has happened to me before, so it wasn't as frustrating as it may sound.

Once I got here though I found that the action was better than usual so I felt like I had to stay and play, meaning that I ended up skipping Punta Cana. I've been doing pretty well so far and the 6 or so months I've mostly taken off cash poker have reinvigorated me for live cash, so it's been pretty fun too. The hours though, as always, are brutal, so it has been many 36+ hour sessions and yesterday I made a big mistake due to being exhausted that cost me approx 30k. I quit the game pretty much straight after that despite the game still been pretty good.

I really feel like overall this trip I've been playing the best cash poker I've ever played. I think this is down to a combination of the work I've been doing on tournament postflop play and also just down to playing my A game as I am interested in every hand much more than I used to be. Previously, when I played live cash almost every day for 3 years, I ended up more or less autopiloting every game. The main areas that I've improved are:

-Sizing: recognising where to size up/down, utilising overbets more and using multiple bet sizes on river. The biggest print in this area has been river blocker bets which I took from my pio work.

-Flop cbet: recognising when to cbet full range and which sizes to use. I am slightly more comfortable with which hands I should check back although that has always been a stronger part of my game.

-Flop check raise: This is another thing I've taken out of pio. There are plenty of RIO videos on this subject for tournaments and I've got more comfortable check raising for value (and therefore working in bluffs) as a result of those + my pio work. However, this is an area where it's important to be very careful as most of my games are 200bb+, often 500bb+ so it's a lot less inviting to put in more chips out of position on dynamic boards. I've been making sure to run sims on flop x/r 200bb+ specifically so that I don't end up making big mistakes OOP check raising too much.

Tournaments

Even though I've had to put cash first for this trip I've tried to make sure I'm still making progress on tournaments. I'm trying to play on Sundays and Tuesdays online but it does depend on who is in the game downstairs. Managed to play and make 4 finals last Sunday, all of them were small though and I didn't get better than third. I've been running more spots in PIO and have put mine on a server now + bought preflop solver so I've been able to do some work on SB vs BB which is the area I felt weakest. Planning to play this evening if the game remains quiet, looking forward to an MTT session after a week off.
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11-19-2017 , 04:50 AM
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One thing I noticed is that they were definitely doing less cbetting than me as EP-CO vs BB. Not sure how I feel about that as it was only a result of PIO sims that I started cbetting a lot of boards at 100% freq. Seems to me a lot of video makers and PIO itself agree with my approach. Examples being betting range at 40bb stack depth for 1/3 pot on K48r, K82ddx, Q53ssx, A83r, QQ4r, J22ddx, 422hhx. All boards that PIO suggest pushing your range advantage, apotheosis usually takes that approach too but I saw loads of top names checking back on these boards a ton, so I'm not sure what to make of it.
Hand in a one-off vacuum vs. inter-conectedness of current hand with (possible) future hands & considerations?

I.e., for a highly-skilled player in the ~50 bb +/- stack range, betting/inflating (and losing) the hand *could* reduce your maneuvarbility, lower the future +cev/hand when you're forced into push/fold mode, are now covered by tough players who can & will confrontation-tax you, there's 3-4 huge/weak fish at your table and you're not scheduled to table-break for many hours, etc.

Not that the example above is correct or that anyone should over-think the tourney aspects too much.
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11-28-2017 , 02:35 AM
It's been a fairly intense couple of weeks of grinding out here. Games were good and big so I was happy to be in there every day but they've calmed down a little now and I immediately feel less enthusiastic about 30+ hour sessions. I thought I played really well for the first week of grinding, was very focused, picking good sizings in a bunch of spots I've previously autopiloted and just generally playing my A game.

Definitely seen a slip in performance in the last week, the fatigue of playing huge hours every day got to me a bit and I've been enjoying taking it a bit easier the last couple of days.

Couple of HHs:

This first one perhaps highlights the dangers of playing really long sessions, at high stakes, deep vs creative opponents.I played this 42 hours into a 55 hour session. BTN was at that point a mostly unknown reg. He seemed reasonably good and had been pretty aggressive in a couple of spots. We previously played a hand where i lead 56 4 way on 234, he raises flop, overbets turn and then checked back on 3 river and claimed he had A6dd (turned bdfd, flop raise w just a 6 and ace blocker).

Blinds 1k/2k, He opens BTN 900k eff deep to 5k, I raise T9 to 28k from BB, I think it's important to make sure you have board coverage playing 450bb deep OOP if you're going to 3bet at all, and being so deep I think you mostly have to use your best suited connectors (rather than like 64ss I might use playing 100bb poker).

He calls, Flop is JJ5

I decide to cbet 29k, I think in hindsight I can probably check fold this, I was thinking that my Jxss blockers are kind of useful but seems reasonable to check fold this pretty low equity hand. He calls.

Turn J

So now I'm thinking I have two quite nice blockers to his most likely Jacks pre. I'm not sure if QJo peels preflop, I think it probably does this deep, but my 3bet is pretty huge so perhaps not. Anyway, since this hand is definitely the bottom of my range, it has some nice blockers and none of my other bluffs have much equity now it seems like a pretty good hand to barrel three with. I also like the 99/TT blockers as they are some of his most likely non Jx hands that could call three streets by the river.

So i bet 85k and he calls again.

River 9

When I saw this river I thought I could go for value here. Although I hadn't seen him make any huge pay offs myself, he'd talked about 'hero'ing some guy down with 3rd pair in a huge pot and showing the VIP' and it seemed like he liked to try and win big pots a little too much.

I felt that QQ+ should just 4bet preflop, this deep I think QQ doesnt need to worry about me shipping preflop so it can go for value. (Whereas off 200-250bb say, a 4bet risks me shoving and putting QQ in an awful spot). I know that my 3bet range is certainly wide enough to merit 4betting QQ+ for value here and I would expect it out of most regulars.

I also expected that AJ would mostly raise flop. And if I'm discounting KJ/QJ offsuit somewhat preflop then there's not so many Jx that I'm worried about, JTss and J9ss are two of the most worrying Jx and I block them perfectly.

I decided therefore to value bet river and call a shove because I thought my blockers were perfect to go for this play. I bet 220k and he tanks for a minute then ships 800k.

This is where I really **** up the hand. I think flop and river could easily be mistakes but I like my reasoning for doing them. Once he shoves though, it all falls apart. Instead of calling river like I had planned (and the river bet doesn't really make too much sense without calling vs shove) I sat there for 5 minutes, I asked myself does anybody really bluff enough here? The guy is fairly new to Macau and he's shoving $100k USD on the end here trying to rep 4 jacks. I really felt that I should call river but what eventually talked me into the fold was I would be too annoyed at myself if I call off, lose to obvious quads, all based off a thought process that was occuring whilst 40 hours into a session. I decided I was too tired to make this call and would be furious at myself if I called, lost, and woke up the next day thinking it was a trivial fold.

Eventually I reluctantly folded and he slumped in his chair then victory slammed AQ on to the table. It's a seriously sick bluff and an impressive play so props to him but I was obviously furious at myself for abandoning the plan and playing the river so badly by bet folding.

A small factor in my favour is that on talking about the hand to a couple of top players they said that if they were bluffing there they would be using TT as their main bluff and possibly QQ if they had it. Obviously if that's the case it would have been one of the most painful hands of all time, bet/call T9 and lose to TT . Still though, angry at myself for messing up the river by bet/folding and for essentially playing without a plan.



Next hand is another river bet/fold vs Katya.

1k2k

VIP limps utg, Katya 10k utg2, I flat JJ utg3, SB calls, VIP calls.

Flop JT3

Checked to me, I bet 30k, just Katya calls, 700k deep.

Turn A

Not the greatest turn, would expect him to check call KQ sometimes on this board, he could also have AK AQ, some overpairs including AA or some AJ AT. I would expect him to err on betting the high value portion of those with a VIP in the pot but it's definitely possible he has AA.

He checks and I bet 72k into 102k. Obviously I think my hand is clearly good enough to value bet and I think I can get called by AK AQ AT. I would expect KK/QQ to fold here but maybe he floats to bluff rivers? Not sure, seems fairly crazy and in my experience Katya is really good at letting go of marginal hands vs aggression early in the hand which lets him arrive to rivers with strong ranges. He calls.

River 7

Katya checks. I need to decide if I can value bet here. My image in these games is definitely on the loose and aggressive side compared to most regulars, so I feel some pressure to value bet thin. However this river is pretty terrible, it takes out my most likely bluff, 89s and I'm not actually sure what bluffs I'm going to find here. I'll bluff Q9s if I have it but unless I'm playing sloppily preflop I would expect myself to fold that from lojack, the VIP is good action but not so insane that I want to be in there super wide vs good reg ISO range. So possibly 78s or a QTs type hand I decided to turn into a bluff on the turn for bluffs. I have KQ and 89 at pretty much full frequency so in retrospect I think I should have checked back river.

I got caught up in focusing on my image, as it is pretty bluff heavy, and decided to bet 145k. He shoved river and I think I have a pretty trivial fold, given that I have no useful blockers and I was already debating on whether or not I can even value bet this hand I think it's pretty clearly the bottom of my range here and not a hand I want to be calling.

Despite these hands I've still done pretty well on the trip and it's been worthwhile. It has been a fairly disheartening experience though, repeatedly bet folding away my money, sometimes to bluffs is not exactly the most fun.

MTTs

I managed to get away from the live cash on Sunday and play a full schedule, it was a lot of fun to be back multitabling MTTs after 2 weeks of fairly intense and fairly boring live grind.

Played an interesting hand in Sunday 2100:





    Poker Stars, $2,000 Buy-in (500/1,000 blinds, 100 ante) No Limit Hold'em Tournament, 9 Players
    Poker Tools Powered By Holdem Manager - The Ultimate Poker Software Suite. View Hand #37877186

    MP3: 29,649 (29.6 bb)
    CO: 27,820 (27.8 bb)
    BTN: 53,225 (53.2 bb)
    SB: 22,263 (22.3 bb)
    BB: 67,494 (67.5 bb)
    UTG+1: 40,770 (40.8 bb)
    Hero (UTG+2): 19,979 (20 bb)
    MP1: 34,898 (34.9 bb)
    MP2: 27,500 (27.5 bb)

    Preflop: Hero is UTG+2 with A K
    UTG+1 folds, Hero raises to 2,000, 6 folds, BB calls 1,000

    Flop: (5,400) 2 T 6 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero bets 1,674, BB raises to 5,500, Hero calls 3,826

    Turn: (16,400) 3 (2 players)
    BB checks, Hero checks

    River: (16,400) J (2 players)
    BB bets 14,500, Hero calls 12,379 and is all-in

    Spoiler:
    Results: 41,158 pot
    Final Board: 2 T 6 3 J
    BB showed J K and won 41,158 (21,179 net)
    Hero showed A K and lost (-19,979 net)



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    In this hand I think I get to range bet flop and am happy treating AK as a value bet vs BB. There's definitely a ton of check raising flop as BB short stacked at HSMTT at the moment in my experience. I certainly do a lot of it myself. I would therefore expect him to xr flop w 6x, Tx, some gutshots and some flush draws. I don't really want to get AK in vs this range but also don't think folding is an option. I figured I can call and stack off on most turns as my equity vs his bluffs is so much better on turn than it is on flop and I think I can comfortably fold on club turns and on 789 turns. Maybe I should just be getting it in on flop, I'll have to run it but currently running a preflop SIM that's taking forever so don't have access right now.

    On turn I'm pretty sure I'm ahead as I think he just shoves all pairs for value, could be losing to 35s 34s but should almost always have the best hand. I didn't really see any logic to shoving in game but all his bluffs are gonna have like 25% equity so actually I should probably just shove to deny his equity. Not totally sure about turn.

    River I think I'm clearly forced to call and seeing his hand makes me feel a bit better about flop play at a minimum (although still maybe shoving is best).

    I also dusted the $2100 high rollers 1MM gtd in the first level getting in KK for 250bb in classic tournament pro fashion lol.

    All in all it was looking like a pretty bleak Sunday but then I managed to bink the 109 cooldown for $18k, saving the day and bringing me to 30% ROI on the year at $200 ABI. It's only 700 games and I'm still stuck $50k due to WCOOP dusting so definitely no proof of improvement and I still have a lot of work to do to catch the high end tournament pros but I'm definitely enjoying and noticing the progress I'm making.

    With the games here in Macau drying up a little and my fire to play every day dwindling, I booked my flight to Vegas for WPT 5 diamond in two days time, looking forward to getting back in there for some live tournaments.

    Will probably play a full Tuesday schedule tonight as I'm much more keen to play an MTT session than another live grind and then off to Vegas!
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    11-28-2017 , 02:59 AM
    GL, love the hand analysis, thanks
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    11-28-2017 , 05:38 AM
    cool hhs and gl in vegas, who did that "new reg" end up being?
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    11-28-2017 , 12:47 PM
    nice catch up mossy gl in vegas you wonderful man
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    11-28-2017 , 03:10 PM
    Subbed, loved the HHs, plz keep them coming!
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    11-28-2017 , 04:01 PM
    did you run that AKo in PIO, feels like river should be a fold or like even-ish call chips wise, and given that your last bigblinds are worth more $ I would tend to fold it

    anyway keep it up, fun read thus far
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    11-28-2017 , 08:00 PM
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    Originally Posted by day'n'night
    cool hhs and gl in vegas, who did that "new reg" end up being?
    Played w him loads since then so know his game better now but idk who he is in terms of screen name. He's a big name in mixed games online I think but idk who.

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    nice catch up mossy gl in vegas you wonderful man
    thanks goose

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    did you run that AKo in PIO, feels like river should be a fold or like even-ish call chips wise, and given that your last bigblinds are worth more $ I would tend to fold it

    anyway keep it up, fun read thus far
    Yeah I ran it, PIO never checks turn as him, but it does bet really small fairly often, vs line of small turn bet, river shove, PIO folds AK 75% and calls 25%. So probably should be folding but it is close.

    Fired the 10k highroller thing today, going well so far, pretty fun
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    11-29-2017 , 06:57 AM
    Just echoing the others that the hand histories are excellent and I'm enjoying your unique perspective. Looking forward to your next update.
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