HS live cash guy spending a year learning MTTs from scratch
08-03-2018
, 11:16 PM
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This first one perhaps highlights the dangers of playing really long sessions, at high stakes, deep vs creative opponents.I played this 42 hours into a 55 hour session. BTN was at that point a mostly unknown reg. He seemed reasonably good and had been pretty aggressive in a couple of spots. We previously played a hand where i lead 56 4 way on 234, he raises flop, overbets turn and then checked back on 3 river and claimed he had A6dd (turned bdfd, flop raise w just a 6 and ace blocker).
Blinds 1k/2k, He opens BTN 900k eff deep to 5k, I raise T
9 to 28k from BB, I think it's important to make sure you have board coverage playing 450bb deep OOP if you're going to 3bet at all, and being so deep I think you mostly have to use your best suited connectors (rather than like 64ss I might use playing 100bb poker).
He calls, Flop is J
J
5
I decide to cbet 29k, I think in hindsight I can probably check fold this, I was thinking that my Jxss blockers are kind of useful but seems reasonable to check fold this pretty low equity hand. He calls.
Turn J
So now I'm thinking I have two quite nice blockers to his most likely Jacks pre. I'm not sure if QJo peels preflop, I think it probably does this deep, but my 3bet is pretty huge so perhaps not. Anyway, since this hand is definitely the bottom of my range, it has some nice blockers and none of my other bluffs have much equity now it seems like a pretty good hand to barrel three with. I also like the 99/TT blockers as they are some of his most likely non Jx hands that could call three streets by the river.
So i bet 85k and he calls again.
River 9
When I saw this river I thought I could go for value here. Although I hadn't seen him make any huge pay offs myself, he'd talked about 'hero'ing some guy down with 3rd pair in a huge pot and showing the VIP' and it seemed like he liked to try and win big pots a little too much.
I felt that QQ+ should just 4bet preflop, this deep I think QQ doesnt need to worry about me shipping preflop so it can go for value. (Whereas off 200-250bb say, a 4bet risks me shoving and putting QQ in an awful spot). I know that my 3bet range is certainly wide enough to merit 4betting QQ+ for value here and I would expect it out of most regulars.
I also expected that AJ would mostly raise flop. And if I'm discounting KJ/QJ offsuit somewhat preflop then there's not so many Jx that I'm worried about, JTss and J9ss are two of the most worrying Jx and I block them perfectly.
I decided therefore to value bet river and call a shove because I thought my blockers were perfect to go for this play. I bet 220k and he tanks for a minute then ships 800k.
This is where I really **** up the hand. I think flop and river could easily be mistakes but I like my reasoning for doing them. Once he shoves though, it all falls apart. Instead of calling river like I had planned (and the river bet doesn't really make too much sense without calling vs shove) I sat there for 5 minutes, I asked myself does anybody really bluff enough here? The guy is fairly new to Macau and he's shoving $100k USD on the end here trying to rep 4 jacks. I really felt that I should call river but what eventually talked me into the fold was I would be too annoyed at myself if I call off, lose to obvious quads, all based off a thought process that was occuring whilst 40 hours into a session. I decided I was too tired to make this call and would be furious at myself if I called, lost, and woke up the next day thinking it was a trivial fold.
Eventually I reluctantly folded and he slumped in his chair then victory slammed AQ on to the table. It's a seriously sick bluff and an impressive play so props to him but I was obviously furious at myself for abandoning the plan and playing the river so badly by bet folding.
A small factor in my favour is that on talking about the hand to a couple of top players they said that if they were bluffing there they would be using TT as their main bluff and possibly QQ if they had it. Obviously if that's the case it would have been one of the most painful hands of all time, bet/call T9 and lose to TT
. Still though, angry at myself for messing up the river by bet/folding and for essentially playing without a plan.
Blinds 1k/2k, He opens BTN 900k eff deep to 5k, I raise T
9 to 28k from BB, I think it's important to make sure you have board coverage playing 450bb deep OOP if you're going to 3bet at all, and being so deep I think you mostly have to use your best suited connectors (rather than like 64ss I might use playing 100bb poker).He calls, Flop is J
J5I decide to cbet 29k, I think in hindsight I can probably check fold this, I was thinking that my Jxss blockers are kind of useful but seems reasonable to check fold this pretty low equity hand. He calls.
Turn J
So now I'm thinking I have two quite nice blockers to his most likely Jacks pre. I'm not sure if QJo peels preflop, I think it probably does this deep, but my 3bet is pretty huge so perhaps not. Anyway, since this hand is definitely the bottom of my range, it has some nice blockers and none of my other bluffs have much equity now it seems like a pretty good hand to barrel three with. I also like the 99/TT blockers as they are some of his most likely non Jx hands that could call three streets by the river.
So i bet 85k and he calls again.
River 9
When I saw this river I thought I could go for value here. Although I hadn't seen him make any huge pay offs myself, he'd talked about 'hero'ing some guy down with 3rd pair in a huge pot and showing the VIP' and it seemed like he liked to try and win big pots a little too much.
I felt that QQ+ should just 4bet preflop, this deep I think QQ doesnt need to worry about me shipping preflop so it can go for value. (Whereas off 200-250bb say, a 4bet risks me shoving and putting QQ in an awful spot). I know that my 3bet range is certainly wide enough to merit 4betting QQ+ for value here and I would expect it out of most regulars.
I also expected that AJ would mostly raise flop. And if I'm discounting KJ/QJ offsuit somewhat preflop then there's not so many Jx that I'm worried about, JTss and J9ss are two of the most worrying Jx and I block them perfectly.
I decided therefore to value bet river and call a shove because I thought my blockers were perfect to go for this play. I bet 220k and he tanks for a minute then ships 800k.
This is where I really **** up the hand. I think flop and river could easily be mistakes but I like my reasoning for doing them. Once he shoves though, it all falls apart. Instead of calling river like I had planned (and the river bet doesn't really make too much sense without calling vs shove) I sat there for 5 minutes, I asked myself does anybody really bluff enough here? The guy is fairly new to Macau and he's shoving $100k USD on the end here trying to rep 4 jacks. I really felt that I should call river but what eventually talked me into the fold was I would be too annoyed at myself if I call off, lose to obvious quads, all based off a thought process that was occuring whilst 40 hours into a session. I decided I was too tired to make this call and would be furious at myself if I called, lost, and woke up the next day thinking it was a trivial fold.
Eventually I reluctantly folded and he slumped in his chair then victory slammed AQ
on to the table. It's a seriously sick bluff and an impressive play so props to him but I was obviously furious at myself for abandoning the plan and playing the river so badly by bet folding.A small factor in my favour is that on talking about the hand to a couple of top players they said that if they were bluffing there they would be using TT as their main bluff and possibly QQ if they had it. Obviously if that's the case it would have been one of the most painful hands of all time, bet/call T9 and lose to TT
. Still though, angry at myself for messing up the river by bet/folding and for essentially playing without a plan.
Last edited by Harleyy30040; 08-03-2018 at 11:21 PM.
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