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Old 08-05-2017, 04:07 PM   #126
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Really hoping the pace picks up soon. Either way, it will in due time. Your hard work WILL pay off.

Inspiring stuff Meale.

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Old 08-06-2017, 01:11 AM   #127
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Really hoping the pace picks up soon. Either way, it will in due time. Your hard work WILL pay off.

Inspiring stuff Meale.

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Thanks very much for the kind words.

Daily Update - Sat 5 Aug 2017

Hours Played: 8
Profit: $1,361
Variance: 8

Notes: It felt like I was playing a completely different card game last night. That session was the polar opposite of the entirety of my last week. I actually won some hands! Curiously, I didn't managed to flop a set, straight, or flush a single time. But I was able to get extremely lucky in the timing with which I picked up big hands. I did make a mistake I think but still for the most part played pretty solid overall. Super nice to get the week off to a good start.

Hands

Hand 1

Limp, limp, I complete Q9 from SB, check.

Flop $20: 983

I lead $15, call, call, fold.

Turn $65: 983 Q

I bet $40, villain jams $189, fold, hero calls and loses to JT...

Like he basically has to have the nuts here... Sets or two pairs (other than maybe Q8) are going to raise flop, I don't think Q8 shoves turn anyway. Need to be more disciplined in folding here, plain and simple.

Hand 2

Hero opens from EP w KJ to $20, villain calls in CO, two other callers. A very very optimistic open, didn't really want to limp call this and didn't really want to open fold it either...

Flop $80: QJ7

Hero checks, villain bets $35, fold, fold, hero calls.

Turn $160: QJ7 8

Check, check

River $160: QJ7 8 Q

Hero vbets $55, villain calls with Q6s.

Hand 3

Villain to my left remarks about how the game is in the dumps and that someone needs to get a straddle going to pick things back up! You can't straddle in my game but you can "blind bet" which is a non-live straddle. Anyway, he received his cards, puts $25 on his cards and waits til it's his turn to act. Basically the whole table knows he's going to raise to $25 without looking at his cards...

Limp, limp, hero looks down at AA and begins licking his lips, hero then limps, villain to my left blind raises to $25 as previously broadcasted, call, call, call, call, hero isos to $125, villain folds, fold, one of the limpers moves all in for $237, folds to hero who calls and scoops vs 65. This is an example of pure luck and timing, no real edge manifestation unfortunately.

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A bit later in the night we get a spastic show up and start open jamming more or less every hand or every other hand for $500. He manages to get AA and gets 2 callers and ends up losing to AK lol. So he's pretty tilted, has gone to the ATM a few times, he open jams again, I have AKs, call and win about $500 there... Some other spooky spots where a nit will raise AI to $125 randomly, a guy to my left w $450 will call, I'll jam forcing $450 stack guy out, and I'll hold with AK. Won a bit of money with AK last night.

Anyway, that's all for me rn, I'm going to go pack my **** and get moving!

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Old 08-06-2017, 04:33 AM   #128
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Congrats on finally booking a winning session! Keep it up!
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Old 08-06-2017, 04:46 AM   #129
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Cool thread. You're very organized.
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Old 08-06-2017, 04:48 AM   #130
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Just arrived at the casino at 11:30am. Tables open at 10am and there's currently 1 full table and I'm 10th on the list. Guy was like hooopefully we'll open another table soon. It's pretty bs though. Always have this problem here. My other option is to get here at like 9:30am in future and hope I get on the first table. That would require getting up at like 6:30-7am though and I'd like to avoid that if possible. Won't have the issue in Melbourne I wouldn't think. You can't ring up and put yourself on the list either I don't believe.

Just going to sit here with my coffee and read my book til I get a text.
Read the WSJ while you wait.
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Old 08-06-2017, 05:39 AM   #131
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Congrats on finally booking a winning session! Keep it up!
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Cool thread. You're very organized.
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Yeah I generally have a book and some headphones with me. It's annoying though, waited 2.5 hours to get on a table yesterday. Pretty tough to put in the right amount of volume of this is going to be regular.
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Old 08-06-2017, 06:52 AM   #132
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So I have officially moved in. I've got to head back home tomorrow to pick up a few more bits and pieces but other than that, we should be good to go! I've actually just walked to the casino now @ around 8:30pm on a Sunday and there's 3 tables running and I'm 15th on the list. Asked the floor if there was any chance of a 4th table and he said a very very slim chance. It's annoying because part of the reason I moved here is that I can just jet over to the casino and play a session whenever without organising too much. But ATM it looks like a good few hours wait I'd imagine. That's one of the worst things about this casino that I don't think would be as much of an issue in Melbourne.

Anyhow, I forgot my book so I might wander around the city for a bit and hope I can get seated before midnight. Tomorrow, being a Monday, I don't imagine I'll play. I need to grab some stuff from home, find a gym and sign up, do a bit of shopping, some food shopping, and then probably look at getting rid of my car. All the parking around here is metered during the week which I don't want to pay for. If I'm lucky though I might be able to camp a visitor parking spot in our carpark.

Volume for this week might not reach target after all. Ofc Friday I was bedridden with a fever, today I've been loving and judging by this waitlist, mightn't get much volume in at all, tomorrow I have a bunch of **** to get done, but I might be able to play a bit in the evening - depends how late I'm up tonight. So I've already lost like 3 days basically.

Will do my best to chase down the 40 hours but I may have to sacrifice some this week and recoup them next week. We'll see!
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Old 08-06-2017, 08:06 AM   #133
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Why the hell would they have 15 people on a list an not open another table? They know the more tables they have running the more money they make right?
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Old 08-06-2017, 08:11 AM   #134
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Why the hell would they have 15 people on a list an not open another table? They know the more tables they have running the more money they make right?
It's unbelievable right? They only have 4 tables in this room and they'd rather have 20 people on the fkn list than open the last one. I think it's because they lack staff, are just ***** lazy, or a combination of both.
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Old 08-06-2017, 10:20 AM   #135
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Yeah that **** tilts me a lot when I play live
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:03 AM   #136
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I might recommend a puzzle book to keep your mind sharp, and to keep thinking laterally. It's good for a 15 minute warm-up. More than that and you're just tiring yourself out though.
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Old 08-06-2017, 12:26 PM   #137
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I would consider an open limp range in live games, getting that limp reraise in is nuts and you avoid 6 way pots
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Old 08-06-2017, 12:30 PM   #138
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Do you think live will explode if online goes down? If thats the case it might not be so bad, although i am dreading the prospect of no online as im doing really well now (despise playing live and 9 handed, which is my dream job ahahaha)
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Old 08-06-2017, 02:08 PM   #139
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Just saw this thread, good luck Meale! I'd +1 to a puzzle book. Or even something like a sudoko app on your phone. Helps keep the logical portion of your brain exercised whilst waiting. Either way, probably the worst thing to do would be to aimlessly browse the internet while waiting. A tip in one of Jared Tendler's books is to get into the zone before playing and then stay in.
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Old 08-06-2017, 04:34 PM   #140
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Thanks very much for the kind words.

Daily Update - Sat 5 Aug 2017

Hours Played: 8
Profit: $1,361
Variance: 8

Notes: It felt like I was playing a completely different card game last night. That session was the polar opposite of the entirety of my last week. I actually won some hands! Curiously, I didn't managed to flop a set, straight, or flush a single time. But I was able to get extremely lucky in the timing with which I picked up big hands. I did make a mistake I think but still for the most part played pretty solid overall. Super nice to get the week off to a good start.

Hands

Hand 1

Limp, limp, I complete Q9 from SB, check.

Flop $20: 983

I lead $15, call, call, fold.

Turn $65: 983 Q

I bet $40, villain jams $189, fold, hero calls and loses to JT...

Like he basically has to have the nuts here... Sets or two pairs (other than maybe Q8) are going to raise flop, I don't think Q8 shoves turn anyway. Need to be more disciplined in folding here, plain and simple.
Tbh I don't think all sets raise flop in that spot as it's a rainbow board. As played it's definitely a call, but I think more than just J10 beats you in that spot.

Congrats on the win though, hopefully more to come!
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Old 08-06-2017, 10:04 PM   #141
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yeah you will never have the waiting problem at crown, you should probably try to get to melbourne asap. good luck for any temporary solution you think of.
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Old 08-06-2017, 11:55 PM   #142
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Hopefully when the new casino in the CBD is finished it might have a bigger/better poker room.
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Old 08-07-2017, 03:47 AM   #143
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Yeah that **** tilts me a lot when I play live
Yeah, it annoys me when they have a 20+ list and only two tables open when they should easily be able to open four.

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Yeah, I think I'd prefer just reading. I have a ton of books I want to get through and wait list time is a pretty optimal time for me to get those reps in.

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I have a limping range on most tables, but not usually with the intention of limp reraising. Generally I limp on tables that are very passive, i.e. not a whole lot of isolating or 3betting going on. I'll only limp AA or KK or AK or something if someone's isoing like crazy or it's a v aggressive table. Not worth the risk imo of going 7 to the flop. That said, I opened AA UTG yesterday and still went 7 to the flop so who knows...

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Do you think live will explode if online goes down? If thats the case it might not be so bad, although i am dreading the prospect of no online as im doing really well now (despise playing live and 9 handed, which is my dream job ahahaha)
I don't think it'll explode, no. Maybe there will be on average a few more players in the casino but I don't think it'll be crazy. Hopefully for you and everyone really it sticks around though.

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Just saw this thread, good luck Meale! I'd +1 to a puzzle book. Or even something like a sudoko app on your phone. Helps keep the logical portion of your brain exercised whilst waiting. Either way, probably the worst thing to do would be to aimlessly browse the internet while waiting. A tip in one of Jared Tendler's books is to get into the zone before playing and then stay in.
Yeah, probably a decent idea hey. I still think I'll spend waitlist time reading simply because it's a priority of mine to read more.

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Tbh I don't think all sets raise flop in that spot as it's a rainbow board. As played it's definitely a call, but I think more than just J10 beats you in that spot.

Congrats on the win though, hopefully more to come!
What can I beat? The guy'd been playing fairly snug and straight forward. At the time I was like, I should probably bet again on this turn but fold to a raise. Couldn't do it at the time. But curious as to why you think it's "definitely" a call? :/

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yeah you will never have the waiting problem at crown, you should probably try to get to melbourne asap. good luck for any temporary solution you think of.
Yeah, unfortunately it seems I'm definitely going to be in this place for a good few months at the very least. Hopefully I can get back into the black sooner rather than later and might have some options.

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Hopefully when the new casino in the CBD is finished it might have a bigger/better poker room.
Yeah I actually heard the floor talking about it a couple days ago and he recons the new poker room will have 40 tables in it - no one's really sure how they plan on filling so many tables but apparently that's what the floor plan allows for. Unfortunately it's like 5 years off!

Daily Update - Sun 6 Aug 2017

Hours Played: 4.5
Profit: -$269
Variance: 4

Notes: Frustratingly sat on the wait list for maybe 2-2.5 hours. Managed to get a short-ish session in but it's certainly better than nothing which was originally the plan. Pretty card dead most of the session, one hand of note however.

Hand 1

Hero just sat down at table, opens like 3 hands in a row so has a super aggro image, looks down at AA and opens to $20 from UTG. Drooler on my left cold calls, another call, and two more calls. Five to the flop.

Flop $100: T62

Hero cbets $50 - This size is an issue... Based on board texture, we should be betting more. The reason at the time we bet this size was honestly because we expect to get check raised by a set like every time when it's 5 handed. That's such awful logic obviously and it mightn't have actually been that but that certainly crossed my mind. I think something like $70-75 is probably best here.

Anyway, drooler to my left calls and villain to his left tank raises to $250. Both villains cover me. IMO this should just be a fold. Simply because most people will just call their flush draws and straight draws and will raise their sets. I also bet small OTF so I could fold cheaply lol. I figured though at the time that there's A LOT of draws on this texture so think continuing with AA unblocking clubs is decent.

I decided just to call because if I jam I might lose the drooler to my left. And then I can pretty much just close my eyes and stuff any safe turn. Drooler calls.

Turn $850: T62 9

Obv just about the worst turn in the deck... Hero checks, drooler checks, villain bets $50. Lol, I fold, drooler calls.

River $950: T62 9 Brick

Drooler checks, villain jams like ~150-200ish idk? Drooler calls and shows JT hence earning him the name "drooler" and villain tables T8 - kinda interesting tbh... Basically one of the few hands that isn't a set that might raise the flop. So although this makes my call "right" I still think it's a bad call because we see this hand so infrequently with respect to all his sets.

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Tonight I've been invited to a $2/$3 homegame. This beast is mostly short stacks around ~$100 but I think probably fairly good in terms of EV as players aren't the best. It's also lower rake and free piss so hopefully there are some people taking advantage of that and we can make some money from some bad play. The host agreed to pay for my uber there and back since I didn't want to drive due to the curfue, so that's a plus as well. Will cop a free feed as well which will be nice. Might even have a couple drinks!

Finished settling in to the new place today, got a motherload of stuff from home and did a bit of shopping. I still need to go shopping for some comfortable trackpants or something for the casino grind. Unfortunately I need to be up at 7:30am tomorrow for the plumber - apparently our sink's ****ed. Not sure how long I'll play tonight because of that but I'll take any volume I can get at this stage.

Tomorrow me and a friend are going to consummate my moving out by tripping balls on acid. It'll be his first time and the area I live in is super nice, we have an awesome park right downstairs and for any Brisbane locals, you'll know South Bank Parklands are the bees knees, so we're going to go for a walk through there and just enjoy the serenity. I imagine we'll be fairly sober come 9-10pm so I might even jet over to the cas and play a short session afterwards if I feel like it. Then we'll just have Wed and Thur to cram in the rest of the 40 hours volume for the week but I feel like we'll get that done easily.

I also got signed up to the gym today. It's about a 20 second walk away, 24/7, bigger and better than my previous one. I didn't actually sign up but my flatmate has a membership there he doesn't use so I just set up a bank xfer for that and he gave me his tag - was all sorted in 2 mins without having to leave the house!

Will update ya'll as to how this homegame goes a little later on.

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Old 08-07-2017, 03:51 AM   #144
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Hey bro, id appreciate if you could give this a quick read, im sure you would have some good experience/advice to share
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Love those pics - looks great! But a 4 table poker room!?! What even
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No matter what anyone here or anywhere else tells you:

Fold to any raise when you dont have a monster or correct odds to draw. One pair is not a monster. Fold your AA. Just fold it and pretend you had AK. From the looks of your analysis you already know a flop fold was correct...but even on a hand like this:

You raise AQ and get 3 calls. Flop Comes Q74. You bet and get raised fairly big...just fold. I promise you that if you keep track of every single hand like that where you continue after you get raised, you will see that you lose a ton of money. There are just very very few people who will raise that flop with KQ. How many times have you Cbet that flop with AK or JTs or whatever....and then check it down and the guy has QJ or whatever other TP? Lots of times. They dont raise the flop with TP anywhere enough for your TPTK or over pair to be good long term.

If you take anything away from anything I ever say, please let this be it.
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Yeah it's a ****ing joke hey. It used to be bigger but they realised they could make more by downsizing and filling the previous room with pokies lol

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No matter what anyone here or anywhere else tells you:

Fold to any raise when you dont have a monster or correct odds to draw. One pair is not a monster. Fold your AA. Just fold it and pretend you had AK. From the looks of your analysis you already know a flop fold was correct...but even on a hand like this:

You raise AQ and get 3 calls. Flop Comes Q74. You bet and get raised fairly big...just fold. I promise you that if you keep track of every single hand like that where you continue after you get raised, you will see that you lose a ton of money. There are just very very few people who will raise that flop with KQ. How many times have you Cbet that flop with AK or JTs or whatever....and then check it down and the guy has QJ or whatever other TP? Lots of times. They dont raise the flop with TP anywhere enough for your TPTK or over pair to be good long term.

If you take anything away from anything I ever say, please let this be it.
100% man. This isn't even like esoteric knowledge or anything, but for some reason I couldn't fold it yesterday. Next time I will do better.
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Old 08-07-2017, 10:01 AM   #149
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Yeah it's a ****ing joke hey. It used to be bigger but they realised they could make more by downsizing and filling the previous room with pokies lol



100% man. This isn't even like esoteric knowledge or anything, but for some reason I couldn't fold it yesterday. Next time I will do better.
Every good player I know will call a flop raise and "evaluate turn". The villain pounds the turn and they fold. They do it over and over again.
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Every good player I know will call a flop raise and "evaluate turn". The villain pounds the turn and they fold. They do it over and over again.
That's always seemed crazy to me. But I've always been a big proponent of exploitatively folding early in hands.
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