Hand 1 - 99 on 886 Kss Def isoing pre. We want to get as many HU pots with this guy as possible IP, make it like 30 for sure. We'll get called a bunch but we're going to take it down a bunch on the flop vs a weak range which will check-fold a lot.

As played would fold turn.

Hand 2 - AJo on AQcc3 9 3, Looks good to me.

Hand 3 - J9ss If someones limp calling 46o on your right, and there are other similar players before you OTB I would probably fold J9ss yea.

Like flop bet. I would probably check turn with these stack sizes - honestly do think we run into a T a lot here, fish are going to have tons of AT, KT, QT, JT etc so 3-way prefer trying to take the free card.

As played, annoying spot. As for the math, getting bit better than 3:1 think its probably a fold. Need 25%, 8 outs * 2 = 16%. Add our 3 jacks and its 22%, so think it is a fold, add awful rake considerations and its prob a clear fold (something I forget a lot)

Hand 4 KK hands vs AT. Even in a dream game think pot with this hand is too much, the problem being our hand just blocks a ton of our opponents continuing range. With JJ I love it though. Yeah it sucks if a 9 or A or T comes on the river, but if we bet 40% pot do think pairs and gutshots will draw incorrectly and lower 2ps and sets will still jam.

Hand 5 AJ on J88. On the whole def think you can raise bigger in these games from the sound of it. I do however like the size if we have AA/KK/QQ etc. As played like flop raise although I might size bigger to like, $60. Turn sizing good. Vs raise, we're getting 270:450 = 2:1 (assuming he had jammed instead).

Its hard to analyse these spots, and theyre super game dependent as well. From experience fish play hands like trips very non-straightforwardly/creatively; creative lines tend to mean v nutted holdings, its easier to be creative with the nuts than a bluff! If I had seen that 64o hand limp called I'd go with it, on a rando London table I would fold though.

Hand 6 I would 4bet, I find these types of teaser raises are often hands like KQ/AJ, 66 etc. Vs a massive jam I would fold to a 5bet though.

Hand 7 UL you basically have to call though.

Hand 8 Wp absolutely never folding flop or turn!

glglgl

I agree except in LP. On the whole would recommend looking at sizing, theres a good RCP video on this here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3WZeXMjcm4. Find the point at which they won't/can't call!

Cheers for taking the time dood. Watching the RCP vid now.

Nice detailed HH's! Some super gross spots, I think it's exactly as you said in my thread actually...

Only thing I question is the AJ hand. Raising you on the turn after you raised OTF - I feel like this is super nutted. I don't blame the call though.

Interesting vid... He's talking about isoing to like $60 in a 2/5 game... seems kinda weird to me. I get his point that raising AK pre isn't for value but for isolation, but I feel like if we're opening 10x, we're fairly exploitable to play against. It is a tough thing though, preflop isolating and whatnot. I think the solution might be to iso more in LP and overlimp a lot more after that. So that when you iso and get called in 3 spots, you at the very least have position. Limp/calling hands like KJs from EP/MP is probably better than opening imo.

Would be cool to hear some more opinions on this stuff.

Yeah definitely feel that AJ is a mistake. I don't think it's a huuuuuuuuge terrible spew but definitely isn't good. You make a very good point. Should have recognised that at the time and just gotten rid of it.

I dont think AJ hand is as bad as youre making out. You didnt seem to consider that there's a decent chance an 8 with no spade will 3bet jam the flop. Most fish will get scared by draws and want to protect when theres no need to.
Also, i think its pretty reasonable he's overplaying Ax of spades. The fact that you dont block a spade means of all your Ace Jacks this is one of the best ones to call with.
Lastly, you are getting amazing pot odds, and if youre bet folding Ace Jack, youre folding too high a % of your value range

Yeaah, and that's why I don't think it's a hugely terribly spewy mistake. I still feel like despite this, it's probably not the optimal way to play the hand. But I guess it's not the worst thing in the world if we do end up playing it the way we did.

This is a point I make over and over and why I think online players (myself very much included) must be super careful when commenting on live spots.

One of the attractions of your blog (for me at least) is it crosses the divide, with some very transparent posting...which I find refreshing.

Yeah it would be so easy to just go 'it depends, if opponent is tight you should fold here, if not you can call'
But i remember OTB saying to never listen to the 'it depends' people who talk strategy in forums, so i always try to make my comments are advising a good theoretical strategy. Its Ops choice to decide whether to be exploitative based on reads or not.

Unfortunately, a good theoretical strategy is just that. Having an extremely strong understanding of optimal defence frequencies, ranges, and advanced strategy does not preclude you from making bad plays in a live environment. The fact is that "it depends" is about as good as it gets in many spots, especially in live where literally everything is an exploitative deviation from whatever blanket strat you look to employ. If you're not being exploitative based on reads, I don't think you'll make money in live poker - in fact I think you end up torching a lot of money... It's no wonder online pros oft struggle in easy 2/5 lineups - two completely different games played completely different ways.

Apologies for the derail Meale...but this is needed

Perhaps we could see some of your "good theoretical strategy" in some hands, after all we are putting our hands out there for people to fire at all the time.

As far as I can find this HU micro spin spew fest is your only posted hand to date

https://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/1...58/?highlight=

I don't mind in the least being put down, but its always nice to see some action from online cash endbosses such as yourself Panetta, so we can all learn.

Hands Please



Sorry Meale, you can have your thread back now, I'm done.

Check Dms

You are learning / adapting at a very impressive rate.

Regarding preflop isolating ranges and sizing in general, i have been playing live for almost 5 years now, and this is the only item i still do not have a clue on. I experiment alot here still.

The 2 best players i have ever played with: One opened a widish range 3x with all hands (including AA). The other had an open limping game and would open his premiums 6x. This is for 2/5.

Most of the "better" players i see open 4x. But Id describe them as "above average" winners. Not exceptional. The only two exceptional were the 2 I describe above.

Thanks Ava!

Yeah I think the main thing is just adjusting based on what game you're playing in and the lineup. For instance, my 2/3 generally plays fairly tight. So a 15-20 open generates enough fold equity without killing any action with premiums. At other games, it's 20-25 and in some particular lineups, 25-30. I just don't really see myself opening >6x in really any game I play in. If the game is so spazzy, I'd look to take a limp/raise strat into that lineup rather than open so big.

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Anywho, I slept pretty much 24 hours straight on my last two days off. But today we're back into the swing of it. Got up at like 6am due to fk'd up sleep schedule, went to the gym, and made some breakfast. It's about 9am now, I'm going to head to the cafe downstairs and read my book over a coffee for a while. Then head to casino and get an earlyish session in.

Reason #284 why I hate Treasury Casino...
Limp limp limp, hero looks down at AA, goes to iso to $30, dealer claims one of the $5 chips dropped in first, which it didn't, and if it did, it certainly didn't warrent calling a string bet over, at the VERY most a warning. But not in any universe was that a string bet... Anyway, it ends up 6 to a flop, board is 994tt and I end up losing vs a shorty who had A9s. Stupidly tilting and it always perplexes me just how incompetent and unprofessional these dealers are.

Could you not call the floor and ask him/her to check footage? Thats unbelievable.

I COULD have but didn't want to make a big deal about it. It would take forever to do and don't want to be that guy.

Session has gone from bad to worse...

Limp limp hero iso TT OTB to $25, 3 calls.

Flop $100: 679r
Villain leads $50 (covers), one call (150), hero (500) calls. I could raise here but I think when we do we iso ourselves vs better hands and I have better overpairs to raise.
Turn $250: T
Villain leads $75, fold, hero calls. Villain never has a straight here with this size. Probably should raise here to like 200ish to target P+d hands. It feels kinda awkward raising this turn without a straight though and obv if we get shoved on it feels horrible but we have the read that that will never happen when he bets this size.
River $400: 8
Villain announces all in and I snap call thinking I have top boat. Dealer moves chips to villain and I'm like wtf. Apparently the board didn't pair and villain had J9s.
:')

Always call out the betsize just in case imo, can never go wrong

Phuck that ****. Too much effort. It's literally just this casino and maybe the only dealer in it that would have called it a string bet.

Same dealer didn't let someone go all-in on the river with $3 in her stack because "the min bet is $5", what a ****ing joke lmao...

Dude you gotta be calling the floor for **** like that, guys a total numpty. If you say all in, YOU ARE ALL IN, lmfao.

And the ****ed up part is that he's one of the better dealers, usually. :')

Set mining question... UTG opens $20, were UTG +1 on a 7-8 handed table, do we cc with 66? If not what's the bottom of our range. Vill is 400 deep.

I'd say it depends on table dynamic (I hate saying depends) if you think you can get it through the last 6 hands then go for it. If not just muck it and move on (remember this is a high rake game, feel free to muck those marginal hands)