Your HUD is similar to mine actually but i like to use limp/fold also.. Plenty of villains will open limp and fold to your iso or call and fold to the flop cbet over and over.

Just like me , I find it so hard to focus on all that information when playing, that is why I never use it, What is the reason you dont use your HUD ?

I just generally think it's laziness, I just don't learn how to interpret and use the stats to my advantage, only seemed to really look at VPIP and PFR.

Hey just wondering what you use in the way of videos and books etc to try and improve your play? Theres a couple of really great articles on 2+2 about trying to crush the micros that may be some help to you. If you havnt already read them then i can probably dig them out for you.

Just on your HUD i think the stats you have on are totally fine. You have no need to worry about having turn cbet and fold to turn cbet on there as you will never have enough hands on villains for these numbers to be of use. Instead when deciding to bet the turn or not just think about board textures and the villains range etc. Think how the turn card improved the villains hand or how it improved your percieved range, all stuff that you will need to know when you move up so its a good idea to try and get a grasp of it now. A couple of simple examples will be when you steal pre and the BB/SB calls and you bet the flop with air. The turn is a King and that is now the highest card on the board. This would be a good time to bet against a villain who half knows what they are doing, against a fish it wont matter if they cant fold. Another example would be the same as above where you bet the flop and the turn gives you say a staright or flush draw, which gives you the green light to bet the turn.

Also a great way to get practice at opening up your range is to open the button a lot when its folded to you. Whats the worse that can happen? You get raised and fold, the blinds both fold and you take down the pot, or one or both of the blinds call and you get to play the pot in position which gives you a good advantage. I will open raise nearly 50% of Btns, so i think theres plenty of scope for you to open up and get some practice playing some hands that you wouldnt normally be comfortable playing. You need to be able to play a wide range if need be, by that i mean if you can only play really tight what can you do on a table full of nits? You cant open up because you arnt comfortable doing so, but if you are you can abuse the nits all day long. This works vice versa as well so if you can play loose but get on a table full of fish then its right to tighten up and you will be able to do that no problem. If you can adjust you can have the best of both worlds.

I don't really watch videos, have watched some poker strategy ones in the past, but I'm not sure they fit into the way I want to play. Quite fancy a membership to DC or CR's or something, but can't really afford it atm, especially not out of my BR! I have read Small stakes Holdem and secrets of short-handed PLO, not really relevant to crushing online microNLH IMO. I am trying to at least read the hand threads(and get involved when I feel I can) in the micro section, as well as slowly making my way through COTW's.

Yes, I just played with my "new" HUD set-up and I may get rid of TurnCB and fold to TurnCB because it isn't really required and just adds too many numbers.
As I have said above, I am trying to loosen up(esp in position) and I think I am doing that, I have gone from playing 10/8 to around 15/10 on average over last few sessions. Obviously PFR hasn't gone up hugely but I think that's because I have cut my EP raising along side lifting my LP raising.

As I mentioned, just played my first session just under 1k hands and I lost 12c, such a frustrating session, finished 1.5 BI under All-in EV. One silly play by myself sticks out, calling an over shove on the river with a decent but not great hand, MUST REALISE THESE ARE NOT BLUFFS!!!! (usually anyway) Had a few sick situations against me too, will try and remember to post some hands tomorrow.
GL

I will say that stat was a life saver for me as a moved up, I turned it off once I moved over to 6-max, but really is a great stat to get solid feel for a villian's playing style at a glance.

My thoughts on the most recent hands

Hand 1
Well played hand, nothing really that I would change. Good flat call preflop, I would raise .25 instead of .20 a min reraise is a big tell that you had a monster.

Hand 2
Again another well played hand. Wouldn't change a thing. However, what was your plan if the same flop hits with a 4h instead of 5h, and both villain's check to you?

Finally, try to number your posted hands in order, i.e. these would be #5,6 so if someone comes along later you know which hand they are talking about

I probably would still have bet out, purely because I still reckon i'm ahead, but obviously then the A on the turn becomes a bummer instead of a good action card.
Ok, I will start numbering all my hands from now on.

GL Mate ! I hope you can get out of 'em

Heres a couple of threads that should be some use to you if you havnt already read them and in which case you should probably give them another read to take more things in the second time round:-

A Complete Guide To Beating The Micros

The Nit Clinic

Also verneer has done a lot of posts in regards to beating the micros so may be worth going over some of them.

Ok, here are a few hands I want to chew over/look at how donk-like I played.

Hand 7




Not to many reads on SB post-flop, but was playing fairly TAG pre, I placed him on big FD or a big pair, I guess 9's were in his range, but I wasn't too sure. The MP1 could have had anything really, pretty loose player from what I had seen.

Here is an example of that damn shove that I like to call, the guy had been playing 23/12 over 200ish hands, I had basically seen him CB most of his hands that had hit, I guess the flushed flop scared him off.

Hand 8





I had quite a few spewy hands today/yesterday, esp. overpairs v better overpairs. But I got some of my karma back by going runner-runner against a shortstacker, made me smile again



Hand 9

Thanks, I think I have came across the top thread before. I have got Veneers latest "Moving up through the Micro's" bookmarked at the page I have read up to, it's a lot of work flicking past all of the low-content posts, but I hope it will be worth it haha!

My opinion on the hands.

Hand 7. Either raise or fold pre. You can probably get away with it at these stakes but as you move up you wont get paid when you limp and get active post flop. As played fold to flop bet, your drawing to 2 outs. On the turn you may as well raise as theres cards that hit that kill your action or your hand. Problem was pre and on the flop though here.

Hand 8. Probably bet more on the flop on such a drawy board. Bet the turn, the guy dosnt have many 4`s in his range here so no need to be scared of one. Im betting here with the intention of folding to a raise though. Betting the turn makes the hand so much easier to play. If he calls again on the turn you have so many more options on the river. You know calling the shove is terrible and you are too attached to your hand.

Hand 9. You want to raise and isolate the limper. If you get 3bet you can comfortably fold but no need to limp behind here. Why are you raising the flop? I think im leaning towards folding but may call 1 street depending on the villain. If he fired again on the turn then you need to fold.

Hey, I'm doing a challenge where I try to run $200 up to $10k, you might find it helpful. Feel free to PM me hands any time as well!

http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/17.../#post26851277

By the way, you should never be folding a set in hand 7, and if he has an overset or a straight it's just a cooler (and you have outs vs a straight too). At 2NL the range of hands he can be trying to get it in there can be so wide, from an overpair to TPTK to 2pair or a lower set. There are only four combos of hands he can possibly have that beat you - 99, 8T, 58, and 35 - and sooo many combos of hands he stacks off with here. You made two mistakes though before we even got to this point - limping preflop and calling his cbet on a low coordinated flop. When you don't hit your 2 outer it's gonna be super hard to play the turn and river as he can be valuebetting worse hands, pure bluffing, or semi-bluffing with some kind of draw. As you've seen, even if you do hit your miracle two-outer you can still be behind.

Thanks for your inputs.
I know I get stuck to hands, it's strange, I find it easier to lay down an overpair than TPTK on a flushy/straighty board, I can't fathom why.

Another thing I need to work on (as if there wasn't already enough!) is note taking, I am not sure what the best way to go about it tbh. I actually tried to work on this a while back, but it faded away, I had the top note suggestions from the nit clinic posts written down as examples of what to look for. How do multi-tablers focus? Is this where my overlapping tables lets me down? So I don't always see when a hand goes to showdown. Should I focus on mainly on one table at a time, or constantly watch the two to my left on each of my tables and work my way round? I am tempted to try tiling smaller tables, but I am not sure about how to fit my HUD in tbh.

Hey Hutchy

Hows tricks?

I don't think that pokerstudy group site is going to work, not enough activity.

I am up for a sweat anytime you fancy it. I am in Yorkshire on holiday until this Saturday, after that would be cool, I think we could both learn a few things.

I managed 3bb/100 win rate over about 100k hands at 2nl and now slightly losing player at 5nl, 90k hands in.

Don't let the bastards get you down mate!

Cheers

Simon

You ever tried Notecaddy? pretty cool imo.. after the trial its $50 but you can pay $10 p/month

Heya mate,

Yeah, I noticed especially after BF it died! It's a real shame though, as I think it's a really good concept, but i think people just use places like here to chat poker and set up sweats, and they are set in their ways.
Yeah, sweat seems a good idea, can sort something out after your holiday.
I'm getting there, my NL2 graph looks ok, it's just the nosedive in NL5 at the start of the year that is making me look bad Well that and all my blatant leaks!

@Claret
No, I have never seen that before, looks a really good program, but isn't it like as close to cheating as you can get, not sure of the ethics on that one haha.

Hand 7
Pre: Limping is just the wrong play, in my opinion. Either raise or fold UTG, in this case I would fold 66 UTG all time, but some styles a raise will work.
Flop: You should have folded, your hand is too weak to cold call and not strong enough for a reraise. Fold and feel good about.
Turn: Good play here

Hand8
Pre: Fine
Flop: OK
Turn: I normally like to bet here to find where I am at in the hand, most hands your beat fold, and all hands beating you call. If a player cold calls you bet on the turn you know not to put another red cent into the pot, except if maybe a non diamond 4 come on the river...maybe
River: Fold, Fold, and Fold some more for three reasons.
1) Massive over be, not worth the risk of calling and being wrong
2) Three diamonds and the villian does not fear them (means he has a monster)
3) An almost uncountable number of hands are crushing you and no hand that you are beating is betting

Hand 9
Pre: Wouldn't limp here, reraise to iso the first limper. This is because if you get reraised, hard to know if you are crushed or flipping or crushing in turn. That way if you are reraised you know to lay it down.
Flop: Good play in my book

I just had a very slight winning session (34c) I still need to do some adjusting to the tighter tables in the daytime. I only played for 3/4 of an hour though, so it's all good, also I had a fairly good day yesterday. I wasn't going to play today, as I am busy later, but I decided to make a goal(this is what this threads about after all) I am going to try and qualify for the One-A-Day Freeroll this month. Can't believe that is my first goal of the thread, well apart from the thread title. I haven't decided if I will play the tournament, but either way 15 iron man medals may help later once I start reaching iron man in higher stakes. I don't play enough to even consider reaching 50FTP 20 days in a month at NL2, no freaking way!

Anyway haven't updated my BR for a while, so here it is.

BR: $96.55

I should also receive around $2 RB either today or tomorrow, that would also be cool to keep getting 1 buy-in/week from RB. Not sure that would be easier or harder as I move up stakes?

In Re-cap my goals are:
Qualify for FTP's One-A-Day Freeroll
Earn $2+ RB each week (while in 2NL)

I agree the tables arnt great in the daytime. It used to be a case of them been quite fishy in the morning before i went to work but now with the playing population dropping they do seem really tight. Thats as good a reason as any to exploit the nits that fold too much though.

On the rakeback thing obviously as you move up you will earn more rakeback, this can be good or bad though. If rakeback is going to mean you are breakeven then really you should be just working more and more on your game, where as if you are winning at a decent clip then it can be a nice bonus at the end of the week or month. On the amounts you can win i used to make about $10 per hour 4tabling NL100 Rush which is about £6 per hour. I do think the profit you can make learning to play poker profitably far out weighs any thoughts you should have of just been a rakeback grinder. Get good at the game and theres some money to be made in it.

Oh yeah, sure, I wasn't thinking about my main profits from RB, but more of the case that it will help my BR increase quicker, or help pad out the lean times.

Ok guys, I'm looking for some advice here.
The situation is starting to make me feel a little scared about my BR on FTP, I am considering moving it, more and more seriously by the day it seems. At the moment I have shade under $100 on FTP, I like playing cash there and the 27% rakeback is really good, I know you can get more elsewhere but high traffic+the RB makes it a good deal. As it stands I have around $75 on stars, which I currently use to play random tournaments, I prefer their tourney structure to FTP's, or anywhere really. Obviously I could combine my roll and play on stars, which would be fine, but I'm not sure how good the VIP levels are for micro cash.
The other bonus to having these different accounts on each site is that if I fancied playing a $10 MTT or something out of my BR, I could use my PS roll guilt-free almost as it isn't my normal hard working cash roll taking the hit. I could move the roll and keep it apart by keeping tallys of how much I win/lose, but that seems a chore. Or I could find a new site(pref with RB) to play cash on for a little while until FTP is stable or other wise. Thirdly, I could continue with FTP?

Help me please!

I wouldnt panic just yet. Having any money online is always going to be a slight risk where ever it is. Ive cashed out twice recently and my last one was 3 days ago and the transfer hit my bank today without problems. If you are really worried then i guess your safest option is to go with one of the big UK bookmakers like Ladbrookes or Hills as there is little chance of them going bust. Software obviously dosnt compare but the tables may be softer but i still think the FT tables are pretty soft anyway but the number of tables available is greatly reduced. Im just going to sweat it out for the time being.

I understand there is always a risk, but I'm not sure whether FT is safe any more. I know, it's forum chat and not always fully or at all reliable, but the stories that are coming out do not sound good. I mean I feel comfortable with my money on stars and the small amount I have on Betfair, but people placing FTP just above UB/AP is making me think twice.