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06-08-2018 , 06:24 AM
So, lets get this thread back on track again and on topic.

What is your total bankroll at the moment OP?

Also, ref your 2/5 thread on LLSNL forum why are you playing in 2/5 games when you repeatedly have stated in this thread that you are gonna play 1/3 exclusively to build up your roll?
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06-08-2018 , 09:34 AM
Giving up alcohol for the rest of June

I've decided to give up alcohol for the rest of the month. Most of my f**kups over the past few years were alcohol related and I'm done. What do I even get out of this sh*t anyway? I'm literally just drinking poison as an excuse to "relax" when there's a tonne of other less destructive ways for me to relax. Hell, I could even become a stoner and smoke weed everyday and that would probably be better for me than getting drunk once a week.

So my decision to quit alcohol stems from the drunken rampage I went on last night. I had planned to spend the entire day with my girlfriend and not play any poker. Then a mate invites me to go to pub poker so I decide f**k it, I'll kill 2 birds with 1 stone by taking my girlfriend out to a suburban bar whilst also getting drunk with a mate and playing some non-serious poker.

The mate never ends up showing, which is fine, as I'm happy to just have food and drinks and conversation with my girlfriend. We get progressively drunk and I convince her to join this $30 MTT with me. Pub poker is great because there's no rake and the players are beyond awful, but you have to deal the cards yourself.

So I'm sitting at this table next to my girlfriend, who hardly understands the rules of the game, and I'm trying to teach her the game whilst also not actually seeing her cards or telling her what to do. I'm just presenting her her options and saying things like "you can fold, call 1000 chips or raise. If you don't have a strong hand then just fold." But people are getting really mad at me and accusing me of coaching her. She manages to cooler some fish by just x/calling 3 streets with a boat when the fish has a weaker boat, then this Indian guy gets kind of mad and accuses her of pulling a hustle. He says that she's just faking it and that she secretly knows how to play well (LOL). He spends the next 20 mins ranting on about how some guys come here and pretend to act stupid to pull a hustle and basically accuses my girlfriend of that. So I'm already kind of mad at him.

My girlfriend busts from the tourney and I'm on the final table. I'm playing some hands and looking over at my girlfriend at the bar and, what do you know it, Indian Romeo is now flirting with her. He was buying her drinks, he told her that he wants to kiss her and tries to get her to follow him into the corner of the bar whilst I'm busy at the poker table. Even though she's drunk, she refuses to follow him, but he keeps pushing it. I don't learn about this conversation until later though, but I certainly would've left the table and stepped in if I knew the things he was saying to her.

So I eventually bust on the bubble A8 vs A7 aipf when a guy rivers a 7 (standard) and I find that there's a $1/$1 cash game running on the side, $20-$100 buyin. At first we're playing NLHE but then I convince them to play a round of PLO even though they don't even understand the rules. I win like $60 back from that (pays for the MTT) and get an Uber back to the city with my girlfriend.

We go to Chinabar to get food and we end up having some stupid argument. I think I poured water into her soup in an attempt to cool it down and she wasn't too happy with that. So she runs off in a taxi and I walk home.

Once we get home, we have another stupid argument and I basically tell her to enjoy life without me. So I stumble to the casino by myself and, to my surprise, security actually lets me in. I've been more sober than this in the past and gotten rejected.

There's only a few tables running as it's 4am by this stage, but I go on the wait list for 2/5 NL. I basically just stopped caring at this point about any of the rules I set regarding bankroll management or not playing when drunk.

I'm on a 1/3 table for about 20 mins whilst I wait to get on the 2/5. To my left, I see one of my mates on the table and he tells me how, if he busts what's on the table, he'll have $15 left for food. To my right, I see a LAG MAWG who is renowned for being an alcoholic, only this time, he's dead sober and is actually playing extremely well. I see him pull this insanely thin value bet where he bets $145 with Q4 on something like a 55433 board and gets called by Ace high.

So I get on the 2/5 table and order another pint of beer from the waittress. There's this black guy on the table who seems kind of fishy, and he's getting really mad at the waittress for some unknown reason. He's talking down to her in a very rude and demeaning way. It tilts me seeing him talk to the waittress that way because she's a really nice, friendly and polite black woman and it just reminds me of the sh*t I used to have to take from customers back when I was a pizza delivery driver. So I'm dying to see this guy get stacked when, what do you know it, this hand happens:

I open 66 in MP and get a few callers, including the black guy in the BB. Flop 965r. I Cbet, BTN calls and black guy calls. Turn 5. Black guy donk jams about $300 into a $300 pot and I rejam my boat. BTN calls and shows 87s, so he's drawing dead now. I show my hand too but black guy doesn't show. River is an Ace, so board is 9655A now. Black guy now announces that he rivered a higher boat... and he slams down A5o. Sorry mate, but that's just not going to cut it. I scoop a 1.3k pot and the black guy now gets stacked and leaves the table. Such a sweet feeling stacking an a**hole.

I end up losing a bunch later mainly from just missing flops. It seems like I'm dealt 99 and TT at least 3 times each and I miss my set everytime. They all go like 3ways and 4ways to the flop, so there isn't much I can do except x/fold if I don't flop a set, which makes me wonder if it's even worth raising these hands in the first place.

A couple of players decide to loosen up the game by straddling to $10 and even double straddling to $20. In one hand, I've got AQo in UTG+2 in a 2/5/10 and I open to $35 and only the straddler calls. Flop 884r. He checks and I decide to Cbet $25 into a $70 pot, now he x/raises me to $85. Such bullsh*t. I call the $85, turn makes it 8845r and now he barrels $110 into $230. I call again and river makes it 88459. Now he barrels $210 into $450 and leaves himself about another $120 behind. He stares at me. I'm so f**king tempted to jam it in here in case he's turning a weak pair into a bluff, but I ultimately decide to just let it go. I definitely would get sticky here if I had an overpair.

Another tough spot involved me raising pre with TT, getting a 976 two-tone flop 4ways, I fire out a Cbet and face that dreaded flop raise. I call flop and x/fold to a turn barrel on an offsuit Q. Looking back on it, I think I prefer to just x/call flop rather than Cbet.

There's a few hands where I 3bet squeeze pre with something like A4cc and end up getting an awful flop like 965 no clubs where I just have to x/fold 3ways.

So my stack has bled down from 1.3k to about $300 and I even had to top up. I stack off AKs vs JJ pre and win the flip. That's my last big pot of the night.

After almost 6hrs at the table, I'm literally falling asleep. Struggling to keep my eyes open and dozing off. I'm gradually starting to sober up too. I ultimately cash out $265 down and walk home in the morning sunlight. Feels so degenerate.

Now I'm hungover but I plan to go to the casino again for a Friday night session. My girlfriend and I both apologised to each other and we're happy again. But god, I never want to drink again.
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06-08-2018 , 09:45 AM
Wtf did I just read?

Sort your life out dude, you can't go on like this. You're going to hit the rails hard very soon. Also that argument with your gf doesn't sound good. Wouldn't be surprised if she leaves you some time soon.
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06-08-2018 , 09:55 AM
Agree with SpinMe, this is going off the charts. You need to sort your life out in some way, drinking all the time+ gambling aka playing poker isnt the solution youre looking for.

Also playing poker when you are mentally on the edge or not well balanced is a freaking bad idea just saying.

With all i have seen from you ITT, first and foremost regarding discipline problems of all various sorts- i am close to 100 percent sure you are drawing dead in terms of making it as a pro playing fulltime. Your mental/discipline leaks is just too big at the moment.

Like for example sitting with $1300 in play at the table when your total poker and life roll is around 5K (or even less) its absolute crazyness.
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06-08-2018 , 10:02 AM
That's some stupid sounding s**t. This guy is either a mega loser or a troll. Take your pick.
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06-08-2018 , 10:06 AM
Like anyone actually believes you can go the rest of June without drinking?
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06-08-2018 , 10:08 AM
Not sure what you're all going on about. Sounds like a perfectly standard evening for a professional poker player. All, that is, except for Indian Romeo. Most professional poker players would have knocked his ass out once they saw him chatting up their girlfriend.
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06-08-2018 , 10:11 AM
Since you live a ten minute walk from the casino I would suggest taking a single buy-in with you to the casino and leaving all your other money at home. Thinking of walking home to get another buy-in as punishment for getting stacked and also time to reflect on your play, assess your mental state, review your goals, clear your head and decide whether walking back with another buy-in is plus EV or if you're better of just jumping in to bed with your girl-friend and going to sleep.

As for this
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My girlfriend busts from the tourney and I'm on the final table. I'm playing some hands and looking over at my girlfriend at the bar and, what do you know it, Indian Romeo is now flirting with her. He was buying her drinks, he told her that he wants to kiss her and tries to get her to follow him into the corner of the bar whilst I'm busy at the poker table. Even though she's drunk, she refuses to follow him, but he keeps pushing it. I don't learn about this conversation until later though, but I certainly would've left the table and stepped in if I knew the things he was saying to her.
Not sure why you even give a ****. You've been dating for 3 years, you live with her, so what if some other dude tries to hit her up at the bar, just smile that a dude is trying to bone your girl and feel happy and confident in the fact that you're the one she'll be going home with.
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06-08-2018 , 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Wtf did I just read?
Some of the best story telling on 2p2 in 2018.

5 stars
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06-08-2018 , 10:44 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I think I poured water into her soup in an attempt to cool it down and she wasn't too happy with that.
I mean if she doesn't understand the most GTO method of cooling down soup....

Edit:
Also, pretty hilarious that OP apparently was so drunk that he doesn't remember if he poured water into his girlfriend's soup but recalls all the hand histories perfectly and/or actually bothers to write them down when he's drunk

If you want to play higher and disregard your BRM rules, go ahead, don't make up excuses for anyone else buddy
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06-08-2018 , 10:44 AM
I support the switch to weed.

For reals, if you are relatively new, get a good indica strain. If you decide not to drink and smoke some bowls of this when stressed it would probably

A. Help with anxiety and calm you down

B. Might help you get some good sleep and decide to stay in nights when things don't go too good for you.

C. If weed makes your girl horny, you guys can have a cheaper night together but still enjoy smoking, netflix, munchieing, and "chilling"


420 smoke dank
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06-08-2018 , 10:47 AM
Not for the first time in this thread Op shows his amazing power of eidetic memory, despite claiming to be p1ssed.

Edit, dammit, beaten by three minutes, wp gg
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06-08-2018 , 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
Some of the best story telling on 2p2 in 2018.

5 stars
True stories or made up stories though?

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Originally Posted by z0mgtiltz
I mean if she doesn't understand the most GTO method of cooling down soup....

Edit:
Also, pretty hilarious that OP apparently was so drunk that he doesn't remember if he poured water into his girlfriend's soup but recalls all the hand histories perfectly and/or actually bothers to write them down when he's drunk

If you want to play higher and disregard your BRM rules, go ahead, don't make up excuses for anyone else buddy
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Originally Posted by Fatboy54
Not for the first time in this thread Op shows his amazing power of eidetic memory, despite claiming to be p1ssed.

Edit, dammit, beaten by three minutes, wp gg
Yes pretty interesting that he can recall the hand histories perfectly. Do you think he is making up or exaggerating parts of his story?
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06-08-2018 , 11:07 AM
I'm shocked that OP would get drunk & play outside his BR.

Shocked.
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06-08-2018 , 11:08 AM
yeah I mean at this point it doesn't matter you could be the very best player in the world technically and you would still fail with this sort of discipline
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06-08-2018 , 11:25 AM
My brain thinks in a very mathematical way, so I can remember a lot of hand histories even when super drunk.

One time in high school when I was at an 18th birthday party, I had about 12 standard drinks in 2hrs, was almost at the stage of vomiting, and yet people were giving me Calculus problems and I was solving integrals in my head and getting them correct.

I've also played a lot of drunk chess before. Drinking definitely makes me worse at chess, but it doesn't instantly turn me into a r*tard that can't play at all. I still memorise my opening moves like the Caro-Kann defence and the King's Gambit, even when I'm so drunk that the bartender won't serve me another drink.
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06-08-2018 , 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
My brain thinks in a very mathematical way, so I can remember a lot of hand histories even when super drunk.

One time in high school when I was at an 18th birthday party, I had about 12 standard drinks in 2hrs, was almost at the stage of vomiting, and yet people were giving me Calculus problems and I was solving integrals in my head and getting them correct.

I've also played a lot of drunk chess before. Drinking definitely makes me worse at chess, but it doesn't instantly turn me into a r*tard that can't play at all. I still memorise my opening moves like the Caro-Kann defence and the King's Gambit, even when I'm so drunk that the bartender won't serve me another drink.
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06-08-2018 , 11:36 AM
Also, I didn't memorise the hand histories perfectly. There were quite a lot of HHs where I could vaguely recall the action, but I'm not sure if it was 3ways or 4ways, I'm not sure on exact stack sizes or positions, etc.
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06-08-2018 , 11:44 AM
highly likely that you play a good bit worse drunk even if you can't admit to it, also the part about BRM going out the window.... so yeah anyway as I said even the very best player in the world would be very likely to fail with the discipline you have shown thus far
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06-08-2018 , 12:14 PM
Early double ups feel great

So I just sat down at a 2/5 table, been here for less than 10 mins, when this hand happens:

5-handed, $492 effective.

Hero is dealt Js Jh in SB
UTG raises to $20
CO folds
BTN calls $20
Hero 3bets to $90
BB folds
UTG calls $90
BTN folds

Flop ($190, HU) is Th 3s 2h

Hero Cbets $60
UTG raises to $165
Hero jams $402
Once villain starts tanking, I know I'm good
After 1 minute, he eventually calls $402

I flip over my hand, runout is T322K and flush misses, villain mucks and we scoop an almost $1000 pot.

It feels great to double up early on in a session, as opposed to getting stacked early on, like I'm used to.
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06-08-2018 , 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Early double ups feel great

So I just sat down at a 2/5 table, been here for less than 10 mins, when this hand happens:

5-handed, $492 effective.

Hero is dealt Js Jh in SB
UTG raises to $20
CO folds
BTN calls $20
Hero 3bets to $90
BB folds
UTG calls $90
BTN folds

Flop ($190, HU) is Th 3s 2h

Hero Cbets $60
UTG raises to $165
Hero jams $402
Once villain starts tanking, I know I'm good
After 1 minute, he eventually calls $402

I flip over my hand, runout is T322K and flush misses, villain mucks and we scoop an almost $1000 pot.

It feels great to double up early on in a session, as opposed to getting stacked early on, like I'm used to.
WHY ARE YOU PLAYING 2/5 ????

JFC. SMH.

Edit -- Also, this spot is beyond ABC. Posting trivial hands like this to emotionally comfort yourself is not a good sign for you.

Last edited by Phil Me Up; 06-08-2018 at 12:26 PM.
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06-08-2018 , 12:17 PM
What happened to only playing 1/3?
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06-08-2018 , 12:21 PM
He just won a pot at 2/5 so its alright
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06-08-2018 , 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
My brain thinks in a very mathematical way, so I can remember a lot of hand histories even when super drunk.

One time in high school when I was at an 18th birthday party, I had about 12 standard drinks in 2hrs, was almost at the stage of vomiting, and yet people were giving me Calculus problems and I was solving integrals in my head and getting them correct.

I've also played a lot of drunk chess before. Drinking definitely makes me worse at chess, but it doesn't instantly turn me into a r*tard that can't play at all. I still memorise my opening moves like the Caro-Kann defence and the King's Gambit, even when I'm so drunk that the bartender won't serve me another drink.
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06-08-2018 , 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jordan1352
He just won a pot at 2/5 so its alright
Right. Now he's having an upswing after setting new poker goals of playing 2/5 underolled and/or drunk, depending on the day.
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