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Old Yesterday, 09:57 AM   #6751
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Re: Having a really bad downswing immediately after setting poker goals

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Lol has anyone ever gone into the hand for a 'royal flush jackpot'? It's the first time I've heard of that term


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You've obviously never played with players who call any 2 sooted connectors because of the bad beat jackpot.
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Old Yesterday, 10:01 AM   #6752
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Isn't H2 a clear shove for Value?
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Old Yesterday, 10:07 AM   #6753
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In one of my first live poker games I had two people lecture me for 5 minutes on why I shouldn't have bet top set on the turn because I could have made quads and won the high hand for the night. Gross thing is we rabbit hunted and I actually did river it.

6b, when playing online do you verbally announce all in when you jam?
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Old Yesterday, 10:18 AM   #6754
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Gross thing is we rabbit hunted and I actually did river it.


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Old Yesterday, 10:23 AM   #6755
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This is part of what caused me to quit my session early: I didn't want to risk "booking a loss" after previously being $1200 up, so the moment I started losing some big pots, I got scared and cashed out whilst I was still up... I need to fix this mentality.
Not to pile onto everyone else picking you apart, but this probably isn’t the best long-term thought process for a “pro”
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Old Yesterday, 10:45 AM   #6756
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Not to pile onto everyone else picking you apart, but this probably isn’t the best long-term thought process for a “pro”
To be fair to 6b, he can change his "long-term" thought process since as someone accurately described him a couple of weeks ago, he's an advanced beginner. He won't, but it's theoretically possible.
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Old Yesterday, 12:01 PM   #6757
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You've obviously never played with players who call any 2 sooted connectors because of the bad beat jackpot.


The casino in my city doesn't even have any jackpots or anything to do with poker lol what the hell is a bad beat jackpot


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Old Yesterday, 12:04 PM   #6758
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The casino in my city doesn't even have any jackpots or anything to do with poker lol what the hell is a bad beat jackpot


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Generally-
Losing hand must be quad 6’s or better. Both winning hand and losing hand must use both hole cards.
Casino collects extra dollar in rake to accrue in jackpot.
Normally jackpot payout is 50% to loser of the hand, 25% to winner of hand, 25% split evenly to everyone else dealt in at table.
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Old Yesterday, 12:06 PM   #6759
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Generally-
Losing hand must be quad 6’s or better. Both winning hand and losing hand must use both hole cards.
Casino collects extra dollar in rake to accrue in jackpot.
Normally jackpot payout is 50% to loser of the hand, 25% to winner of hand, 25% split evenly to everyone else dealt in at table.


Ah, with ya. Thanks for clearing that up.


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Old Yesterday, 12:32 PM   #6760
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Re: Having a really bad downswing immediately after setting poker goals

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Generally-
Losing hand must be quad 6’s or better. Both winning hand and losing hand must use both hole cards.
Casino collects extra dollar in rake to accrue in jackpot.
Normally jackpot payout is 50% to loser of the hand, 25% to winner of hand, 25% split evenly to everyone else dealt in at table.
It varies. I've seen Aces full of tens or better. I've seen quads or better. Some casinos may even change the qualifications, loosening them up the the longer it goes without being hit. Both cards playing is generally a requirement but the casino I play at requires a pocket pair for quads. Some casinos split the jackpot among everyone in the room. Station Casinos pays out to players across all of its poker rooms.
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Old Yesterday, 12:56 PM   #6761
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One can get burned out when poker is a job but OP burned out in record time. I thought I was terrible about volume but while there were times I would put in 4 hour sessions there were other times I would put in 20+ hour sessions. If games are good a lot of the true grinders never leave. I know a grinder that recently made $20k+ playing a 24+ hour 5/T session. I know another that sat at Wynn 2/5 with $500 with the intention of playing until he profited $5k. After 30+ hours he met his goal. However, if he had needed 60 hours to reach his goal he would have played for 60+ hours straight because that amount of volume is not unusual for him at all.

It's generally not advisable to play to get back to even but at least you get some volume in. I know a player that always did this and one time he made a stupid play shoving QQ into AA for $2k (200bbs) towards the beginning of a session Thursday night. He continued to play the rest of Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday until early Monday morning when he finally got back to even. 75+hrs straight.
I enjoyed these stories. I played with a retired doctor who would come to the casino once every other week, stay fri/sat night playing through sunday. Sometimes he'd play straight through and be sitting on $5-8k in a 2/5 game. He was a tough old bastard and very aggressive/fun to play with.
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Old Yesterday, 02:07 PM   #6762
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6,

What was your thought process on the turn in hand 3?
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Old Yesterday, 02:15 PM   #6763
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OP, please explain why you check raised turn in hand 3.. your getting odds to draw to your flush by just calling. Check-raising is another example of you piling in money when your behind.
Let's hear your thought process and talk through it so that we can help improve your game and increase your chances of paying this loan off. When the deck stops bailing you out in spots like this, these leaks are going to cost your entire WR.
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Old Yesterday, 04:11 PM   #6764
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the only way OP is going to not be financially upside down is by switching over to PLO instead of NLHE. At least he can stack off with some bigger draws. If variance is in his corner, he could potentially pay off his entire loan, and have a decent bankroll set aside for himself within 1 marathon 2 and 1/2 hour session of 2/5 PLO (broken up with intermittent KFC / beer breaks), depending on how the cards fall. I suggest that OP makes this change to his gameplan immediately, and starts posting exclusively PLO hand histories.
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Old Yesterday, 04:23 PM   #6765
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Re: Having a really bad downswing immediately after setting poker goals

In before “I was trying to get a fold from yadda yadda.”
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Old Yesterday, 05:21 PM   #6766
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Re: Having a really bad downswing immediately after setting poker goals

Hand 5 is a bag of flaming dog crap and the type of hand that explains a lot about your game and why you’ll never make it as a pro imo.

You cut your total win by more than half on that hand alone.


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Old Yesterday, 06:28 PM   #6767
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yeah, when I saw that hand I was 100% sure that post is going to end with him confessing breaking his non-drinking-rule lol
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Old Yesterday, 06:35 PM   #6768
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yeah, when I saw that hand I was 100% sure that post is going to end with him confessing breaking his non-drinking-rule lol
If OP says it might be a "bit spewy" you know you have to strap yourself in.
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Old Yesterday, 06:53 PM   #6769
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I don't think OP is going to listen to much advice, if any, while he's currently on his upstreak. Making ~500 bucks every couple days is enough to cover everything and build a bankroll of his own. Especially now that he smartly paid off a portion of the loan.
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Old Yesterday, 09:30 PM   #6770
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You've been reading simplericks thread too much with that JJ hand

Also lol at that villain in first two hands. Guy seems terrible
Position, position, position. Play tight and put in more hours.
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Old Yesterday, 10:34 PM   #6771
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H1 check flop
H3 call turn
H5 call flop
H6 c/c most sizings ott
H1: I cbet my entire range in 3bet HU pots for simplicity. It actually works quite well as an overall strategy.
H3: I felt like AJ makes a better call than JT.
H5: Yeah either x/c or b/f flop would've been better than a x/r. I'll admit that I made a mistake here.
H6: Really? You prefer a x/c to either a double barrel or a x/r?

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How many hours this week OP? Why the short session, you had a day off yesterday.
Just live I've only put in 23 hours in the past 7 days... definitely not as many as I'd hoped for. But I did put in a decent amount of volume at 25nl online too.

Short session was just a mental thing. I started obsessing way too much over how much I was winning/losing that session and I knew I was in a bad mindset. Plus the game was mediocre anyway.

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Lol has anyone ever gone into the hand for a 'royal flush jackpot'? It's the first time I've heard of that term
Different casinos have different jackpots. Crown Melbourne has a "royal flush jackpot" where you need to flop a royal flush in order to win the jackpot, which is usually around $30k, but can vary between $2500 and $150k.

Since you have about a 1 in 20,000 chance of hitting the jackpot when you're holding 2 suited broadways in your hand, then the EV of seeing a flop is quite low ($1.50 in EV if jackpot is $30k), but people are known to cold call 3bets with hands like QTs, just because they want to win.

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6b, when playing online do you verbally announce all in when you jam?
Sometimes. I definitely express way more emotions behind a laptop, whereas I try to be more stoic in a live atmosphere.

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Not to pile onto everyone else picking you apart, but this probably isn’t the best long-term thought process for a “pro”
Yeah I recognise this and I'm trying to fix it.

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6,

What was your thought process on the turn in hand 3?
The best time to semibluff is when all 3 things happen:
1) You have a hand with a decent amount of equity against your opponent's range.
2) Your hand doesn't have much showdown value though, unless it improves.
3) You have a range advantage and can credibly rep strong hands.

I felt like JTdd in this spot fits the bill here.

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In before “I was trying to get a fold from yadda yadda.”
That's the nature of a semibluff: you want some better hands to fold, at least some portion of the time.

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I don't think OP is going to listen to much advice, if any, while he's currently on his upstreak. Making ~500 bucks every couple days is enough to cover everything and build a bankroll of his own. Especially now that he smartly paid off a portion of the loan.
Yeah this is the danger of swings... makes me too complacent. Seeing my November profit as $8471 makes me feel like I can afford a break. But I need to cut this mentality out. I need to grind as if I'll be broke tomorrow if I don't put in the hours today.
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Old Yesterday, 11:16 PM   #6772
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That's the nature of a semibluff: you want some better hands to fold, at least some portion of the time.
your whole poker career is one long semi bluff
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Old Yesterday, 11:23 PM   #6773
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You need to stay away from the word "but"

"Yeah I got stacked BUT when I have kk,aa instead of kq I stack him."

"Yeah I got stacked by a10, tptk, in a single raised pot BUT when I have jj+ i stack him."

"Yeah i angle shot my own discipline prop bet, BUT i paid back some of the loan so that's a similar punishment" (seriously wtf at this one)

"Yeah I only got half my target hours BUT I played a lot of 25nl."

Seriously, stop making excuses for yourself or else soon it's going to be "yeah I blew a 15k loan because I stuck to none of my goals BUT I learned a lot along the way."
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Old Yesterday, 11:36 PM   #6774
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6,

What range do you put your opponent on in that semibluff hand when he decides to bet $40 into $100+ rather than check behind?
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Old Yesterday, 11:42 PM   #6775
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I don't think OP is going to listen to much advice, .
ya think?
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