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05-19-2018 , 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Avaritia
This is the first thread on 2p2 I've given 5 stars
If youre talking about entertainment value, then I agree
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05-19-2018 , 10:54 PM
voted 5 starz!
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05-20-2018 , 02:38 AM
Bad beats against whale at 2/5

So I played 2/5 last night after work and unfortunately lost $1245. There was a maniac whale on the table who kept sucking out on me. Here are 2 notable hands:

Hand 1: hero is dealt AJss in BB

6 limpers (including whale)
Hero raises to $60
UTG calls $60
Whale 3bets to $220 on BTN
Hero jams $564
UTG folds
Whale calls $564 with 53ss
Board runs out XXXX5 and whale stacks me.
This was a 1.1k pot where I lost as a 65% favourite.

Hand 2: hero is dealt KQhh in SB with $730 stack

Whale limps $5 UTG
Reg raises $20 BTN
Hero 3bets $75 SB
Whale calls $75
Reg calls $75

Flop ($215) is Ah 9s 5h

Hero checks
Whale bets $200
Reg folds
Hero jams $655
Whale calls $655 with 76hh
Turn is 2c and river is 8d and whale rivers the nuts.
This was a 1.5k pot where I lost as a 75% favourite.

So let's look at how this session would've ended up if I realised my all-in EV:
First pot I get back about $720 in EV.
Second pot I get back about $1030 in EV.
In total, I ran $1750 below all-in EV on those two hands, which means I would've left the session with a nice $500 profit if I had a neutral level of luck (neither good nor bad).

One thing I am proud of myself for though is not tilting. I kept it cool and continued to play sensibly for the rest of the session, despite those bad beats. This is how professionals should act. Just smile that your opponent got his stack in as a massive underdog and then move on. Take your time and think through each and every decision in the following hands, particularly with your preflop hand selection. Don't loosen up your game just to chase losses.

So now I'm $12,316 up at live poker this year.
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05-20-2018 , 02:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Bad beats against whale at 2/5

So I played 2/5 last night after work and unfortunately lost $1245. There was a maniac whale on the table who kept sucking out on me. Here are 2 notable hands:

Hand 1: hero is dealt AJss in BB

6 limpers (including whale)
Hero raises to $60
UTG calls $60
Whale 3bets to $220 on BTN
Hero jams $564
UTG folds
Whale calls $564 with 53ss
Board runs out XXXX5 and whale stacks me.
This was a 1.1k pot where I lost as a 65% favourite.

Hand 2: hero is dealt KQhh in SB with $730 stack

Whale limps $5 UTG
Reg raises $20 BTN
Hero 3bets $75 SB
Whale calls $75
Reg calls $75

Flop ($215) is Ah 9s 5h

Hero checks
Whale bets $200
Reg folds
Hero jams $655
Whale calls $655 with 76hh
Turn is 2c and river is 8d and whale rivers the nuts.
This was a 1.5k pot where I lost as a 75% favourite.

So let's look at how this session would've ended up if I realised my all-in EV:
First pot I get back about $720 in EV.
Second pot I get back about $1030 in EV.
In total, I ran $1750 below all-in EV on those two hands, which means I would've left the session with a nice $500 profit if I had a neutral level of luck (neither good nor bad).

One thing I am proud of myself for though is not tilting. I kept it cool and continued to play sensibly for the rest of the session, despite those bad beats. This is how professionals should act. Just smile that your opponent got his stack in as a massive underdog and then move on. Take your time and think through each and every decision in the following hands, particularly with your preflop hand selection. Don't loosen up your game just to chase losses.

So now I'm $12,316 up at live poker this year.
Grats on acting like a professional, for once, ITT. Child of destiny it seems.
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05-20-2018 , 02:53 AM
Just handed in my 2 weeks notice

I'm finally quitting my job! Today I handed my boss a signed letter of my 2 weeks notice of resignation.

So excited not to work this lousy dead-end job anymore. Now I have more time to immerse myself into poker. I will finally be able to show up to the casino feeling fresh, rather than feeling drowsy after a 5hr shift. I can finally fix my sleeping pattern permanently. I can finally play on Friday and Saturday evenings, or even go out to parties and social events those days.

This is an amazing opportunity for me to finally become a full-time poker pro! It's a bit unfortunate that I had to hand this letter in immediately after dropping 1.2k at 2/5, but oh well, you can't be too much of a perfectionist.

So f**king excited about the new times ahead!
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05-20-2018 , 03:11 AM
Yeah not sure why you kept the job for so long anyways when a more entertaining, higher paid, higher long term potential job awaits. GL!
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05-20-2018 , 03:29 AM
“Hero has TAG image”, solid trolling OP.
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05-20-2018 , 03:30 AM
Yeah good on you for taking the leap and putting everything into poker, there's just too much money to be made in the game to not give it a go
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05-20-2018 , 03:39 AM
What's your bankroll? Like 6k? And your playing 2/5 full time? Don't worry that should be plenty, you shouldn't have to worry about 10+ buy in downswings, they don't really happen if you're a crusher
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05-20-2018 , 03:49 AM
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Originally Posted by jordan1352
What's your bankroll? Like 6k? And your playing 2/5 full time? Don't worry that should be plenty, you shouldn't have to worry about 10+ buy in downswings, they don't really happen if you're a crusher
Not sure if this is a troll or not.
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05-20-2018 , 04:58 AM
Grats on quitting your job!
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05-20-2018 , 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by jordan1352
What's your bankroll? Like 6k? And your playing 2/5 full time? Don't worry that should be plenty, you shouldn't have to worry about 10+ buy in downswings, they don't really happen if you're a crusher
Lol

How about shottaking some 5/10 now that youre quit your regular job OP, i mean to really get the big hourly going right off the bat?
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05-20-2018 , 07:58 AM
Wow, you quit your job? That was your only safety net and now it's gone.

What's your total bankroll + liferoll? About $7.5k if I remember correctly. That's nothing. You have rent, bills and food to pay for. No doubt you will continue to treat your gf to expensive gifts and restaurants. It only takes a couple of tilt/bad luck sessions, and suddenly you have no money and you're ****ed.
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05-20-2018 , 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by SpinMeRightRound
Wow, you quit your job? That was your only safety net and now it's gone.

What's your total bankroll + liferoll? About $7.5k if I remember correctly. That's nothing. You have rent, bills and food to pay for. No doubt you will continue to treat your gf to expensive gifts and restaurants. It only takes a couple of tilt/bad luck sessions, and suddenly you have no money and you're ****ed.
Probably even less, more like 6k due to his 1k+ loss in the last 2/5 session he reported about.
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05-20-2018 , 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
Probably even less, more like 6k due to his 1k+ loss in the last 2/5 session he reported about.
You're right, it's probably more like 6k. I was only taking that 7.5k number from a bit further back in the thread.
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05-20-2018 , 08:11 AM
You were 62% and 72% favorites in those hands (rounded to nearest 1%)....not 65% and 75%. Small percentages matter if you're gonna do All in EV calcs and expect them to be semi accurate.

Your point is taken though. Bad luck and I dont mind your plays at all.
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05-20-2018 , 08:32 AM
Seriously though, what's your plan for if you run out of money? Are you able to get another job easy? Because incase you haven't noticed you're up $12k this year yet your bankroll hasn't really increased at all. And that's with you having a job
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05-20-2018 , 08:52 AM
yeah, up 12k + 20/hour job and still only has around 6k to his name. he must have wasted an unbelievable amount on expensive **** for his gf.
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05-20-2018 , 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Just handed in my 2 weeks notice

I'm finally quitting my job! Today I handed my boss a signed letter of my 2 weeks notice of resignation.

So excited not to work this lousy dead-end job anymore. Now I have more time to immerse myself into poker. I will finally be able to show up to the casino feeling fresh, rather than feeling drowsy after a 5hr shift. I can finally fix my sleeping pattern permanently. I can finally play on Friday and Saturday evenings, or even go out to parties and social events those days.

This is an amazing opportunity for me to finally become a full-time poker pro! It's a bit unfortunate that I had to hand this letter in immediately after dropping 1.2k at 2/5, but oh well, you can't be too much of a perfectionist.

So f**king excited about the new times ahead!
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05-20-2018 , 09:33 AM
Kelvis,you have had some epic pics replies ITT so far. 5 star for entertainment value for sure.
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05-20-2018 , 09:42 AM
It's just that I can't adequately describe the stupidity so I must resort to pictures.
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05-20-2018 , 09:49 AM
lolz
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05-20-2018 , 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I'd argue that working as a pizza delivery driver for 4 years straight without being given the chance for a promotion to manager is a lot worse than being a professional poker player. My income, status and lifestyle would all go up from where they are now. And I got kicked out of uni so I don't have much else to look forward to beyond poker and maybe investing in the stock market later in life.

Bro you are 24.

You’re not management material without an education.

Kicked out of university? Why?

Your life leaks are way bigger than your poker leaks. Wowza.


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05-20-2018 , 12:21 PM
wow, quit your job with <10k life roll, brilliant. You should not have considered quitting your job until you had at least 10k savings in the bank on top of a proper 20 or 30 buyin bankroll for the stake you plan to play.

How about instead of posting your yearly profit from poker you post your yearly total hours, hourly win rate, bb/hr and then break those down by stakes/game. This is something I hope you would have done before quitting your job.
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05-20-2018 , 12:36 PM
So in total, I have $9100 to my name.
- $7000 is my bankroll
- $600 is my liferoll
- $1500 is emergency funds if I go bust

My plan is to spend 6 days per week grinding/studying and then spend 1 day doing non-poker things; primarily hanging out with my girlfriend.

Each week, I will take $600 out of my bankroll and put it in to my liferoll, regardless of how much I actually win or lose that week. My bankroll and liferoll will be completely separate: liferoll will be in cash + bank account, whereas bankroll will be kept in my casino account.

The other $1500 is locked away in my shared bank account with my girlfriend, which requires both of our signatures to be withdrawn. This money will not be touched at all for as long as I remain a professional poker player. It will only be taken out if I go completely busto and need to start looking for a job.

Since the damage of busting my roll is about to become much greater (since I won't have a job anymore), combined with my recent bad beat session at 2/5, I've decided that I'll be playing primarily 1/3 NL. I'm hoping that I can keep my win rate above $20/hr (ideally $30+/hr) and put in at least 36hrs per week of volume (6hrs per day, 6 days per week).

This should allow me to continue to grow my bankroll whilst also living a comfortable life and keeping my risk of ruin fairly low. I'm excited for this new challenge.
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