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07-15-2018 , 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
$350 effective

Hero opens $15 UTG with KQo
OMC 3bet jams $24
Maniac woman cold 4bets to $90
Hero tank folds

Maniac woman had A3o. OMC had AKo.


fold pre
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07-15-2018 , 08:29 AM
I guess technically speaking, AJo and KQo should be folds UTG 9-handed... it's hard though.

My usual UTG opening range is {55+, AJ+, KQ, T9s, all suited broadways} for both 6max and 9max.
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07-15-2018 , 08:37 AM
Playing both 6 max online and live full ring back and forth, sometimes on the same day seems to be a big problem for you.

I dont believe 55-99 can be profitably opened from UTG in live full ring. Hands like AJ and KQ are pretty marginal depending on the table, but all of those hands are probably fine to open UTG at 6 max online.

There are many more spots that are completely different in online 6 max and live full ring. They are almost like totally different games. Its not easy to go back and forth all the time and play both well. An expert online 6 max player who plays his ranges the same way at live full ring will get killed.
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07-15-2018 , 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
So when an aggro fish, who had previously made a 2.3x open from UTG with 74s, now makes a 3x raise in MP when you're 30bb effective, you're going to flat with 99 and AQ instead of 3betting? Seems way too nitty to me.
There you go again with calling someone a fish.

You shoved “30bb” (100 in reality) with KQo and are trying to justify it by using your “experience” with range charts from your days playing hyper turbos as if that in some way is relevant or useful for a cash game setting.

You’re a fish bro......sorry to be the bearer of bad news.

Either way....still an epic thread.
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07-15-2018 , 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I guess technically speaking, AJo and KQo should be folds UTG 9-handed... it's hard though.
It's only hard to fold hands you should fold if you lack discipline. Preflop folds are the easiest part of the game to get dialled in, it's a poker skill that every person who wants to beat the game has zero excuse for not bringing to the table. Like I could write down preflop open folds on a napkin and train a chimp to do it, if you can't be bothered to manage that, you deserve to lose.
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07-15-2018 , 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by WereBeer
It's only hard to fold hands you should fold if you lack discipline. Preflop folds are the easiest part of the game to get dialled in, it's a poker skill that every person who wants to beat the game has zero excuse for not bringing to the table. Like I could write down preflop open folds on a napkin and train a chimp to do it, if you can't be bothered to manage that, you deserve to lose.
It could be lack of discipline. Or maybe he thinks opening a very wide range is +EV, because he believes he has such a huge skill edge over everyone at the table.
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07-15-2018 , 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Besides, I feel like it's never a bad thing to give off a loose image at the table you're playing on
It's great to have a loose image IF YOU'RE NOT CONSTANTLY BLUFFING. People like you should pray others see them as total nits.

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Showing people that I was willing to put $300 in preflop with KQo allowed me to extract more value later on.
And besides torching off a stack is not "having a loose image", it is being loose. If I see someone straddle $10 and jam it in against an opening range that is not adjusted for 30bb (people don't actually think like that, regardless of whether they should) with KQo I tag him as a gambling spewtard and I know he's not going to abuse his image because he won't be able to resist gambling.
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07-15-2018 , 04:45 PM
Feeling really sh*t after these 2 hands:

Hand 1: Bullsh*t squeeze
2/5, 1k effective

Tilted reg opens $15 UTG
4 callers
MAWG squeezes $105 CO
Hero 4bets $280 BTN with AJo
Tilted reg 5bet jams $361
Hero calls $361

Tilted reg shows 97s and sucks out for an almost $900 pot.

Hand 2: Not so bullsh*t squeeze...

2/5, $600 effective

1 limper
Hero raises $25 CO with 99
BTN calls $25
SB calls $25
BB squeezes to $145
Hero 4bet jams $600
BB snaps with AA and holds

I was just telling myself that I wanted to cash out, but I convinced myself to stay for 1 more orbit, then these 2 hands happen right at the very end. That's the worst part.
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07-15-2018 , 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Kelvis
It's great to have a loose image IF YOU'RE NOT CONSTANTLY BLUFFING. People like you should pray others see them as total nits.



And besides torching off a stack is not "having a loose image", it is being loose. If I see someone straddle $10 and jam it in against an opening range that is not adjusted for 30bb (people don't actually think like that, regardless of whether they should) with KQo I tag him as a gambling spewtard and I know he's not going to abuse his image because he won't be able to resist gambling.
ROFL, fantastic post I cant take it anymore, omg dude.
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07-15-2018 , 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I'm playing 1/3 NL right now so that's evidence that I'm taking it seriously.
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
2/5, 1k effective
Well it lasted a day. According to your own logic this is evidence that you're not taking it seriously then right?

by the way 1k deep lol jezus ****ing christ
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07-15-2018 , 05:04 PM
Does it not concern you having 20% of your net worth on the table?
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07-15-2018 , 05:08 PM
I bought in for $200 twice then bought in for $500 once, only because the whale from 1/3 earlier was now on my 2/5 table and I wanted to bumhunt her.

As soon as she left, I was about to leave too, but I stupidly convinced myself to stay for 1 more orbit, and that's when I go from being $100 up to $900 down for the night.
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07-15-2018 , 05:09 PM
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Originally Posted by wj294
Does it not concern you having 20% of your net worth on the table?
Of course it does. That's why I'd planned to cash out and only play 1 more orbit. I didn't want to risk losing my 1k stack... then I end up f**king losing it anyway.
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07-15-2018 , 05:14 PM
You seem to have a disconnect between your thoughts at the table and your thoughts away from the table which you need to fix ASAP. Away from the table you seem somewhat able to grasp what you need to be doing but then at the table your plays don’t reflect this.

Yes, c4b AJo may be profitable under the circumstances you had but it’s variance you can’t afford to be taking on.

Again, I suggest getting a part time job. If you breakeven for 3 months straight but have a part time job covering expenses you still have 12 buyins, without the job you have 0.

Btw, what’s the average wage p/h for Melbourne? Is it more or less than what you consider attainable in small stakes live games?

This isn’t meant to be overly negative, for whatever reason I just want to see you succeed.
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07-15-2018 , 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
. That's why I'd planned to cash out and only play 1 more orbit. I didn't want to risk losing my 1k stack.
Yet you do completely unnecessary high variance plays, cold 4 betting AJ and 4 betting 99
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07-15-2018 , 05:19 PM
6,

Were you drunk when you sat in the 2/5 game?

What ranges and calling ranges did you put your opponents on in those hands that made you thinking shoving was a profitable move?
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07-15-2018 , 05:21 PM
You think the mistake was not cashing out but waiting an orbit, and yes that was a mistake. Yet you think it's somehow totally fine to jump stakes yet again, which is actually the big mistake to begin with. You simply cannot withstand the urges to gamble for more money and play hands you shouldn't play, as can be expected from gambling addicts.
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07-15-2018 , 05:38 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I bought in for $200 twice then bought in for $500 once, only because the whale from 1/3 earlier was now on my 2/5 table and I wanted to bumhunt her.

As soon as she left, I was about to leave too, but I stupidly convinced myself to stay for 1 more orbit, and that's when I go from being $100 up to $900 down for the night.
I can guarantee you 100% that people are "bumhunting" you. YOU are a whale. Not one with deep pockets but you play like one.
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07-15-2018 , 05:54 PM
what the hell are you doing with Ajo with ur bank roll, christ. You cant even be disciplined for one day.
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07-15-2018 , 05:58 PM
The 4 bet shove with 99 for $600 is just huge spew+ huuuuge variance, and same with AJ stackoff.

Spazz and huge variance is the last thing you and youre bankroll need- yet that is what you produce over and over again. Mindblowing. I am nearly speechless to be honest with you. The amount of contradictions in your posts makes me speechless too. Mike and Kelvis is pointing out just a few of them in epic fashion in recent posts.

If anything with youre bluffy/aggro/spewy image you should nit it up big time, and print money for a while with the lowest variance possible.
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07-15-2018 , 06:02 PM
A man is not a man till he has cold 4bet squeezed AJo for 7% of his net worth.
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07-15-2018 , 06:10 PM
6,

BTW, I asked if you were drunk because I was a little confused by your timeline of play:

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Originally Posted by 6bet me
So I ultimately cashed out $149 profit. The maniac went broke after busting over 1k and the game kind of died down. Plus I'm meeting my girlfriend soon to celebrate, so it's actually pretty good timing.

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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I bought in for $200 twice then bought in for $500 once, only because the whale from 1/3 earlier was now on my 2/5 table and I wanted to bumhunt her.

As soon as she left, I was about to leave too, but I stupidly convinced myself to stay for 1 more orbit, and that's when I go from being $100 up to $900 down for the night.
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07-15-2018 , 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Petrucci
The 4 bet shove with 99 for $600 is just huge spew+ huuuuge variance, and same with AJ stackoff.

Spazz and huge variance is the last thing you and youre bankroll need- yet that is what you produce over and over again. Mindblowing. I am nearly speechless to be honest with you. The amount of contradictions in your posts makes me speechless too. Mike and Kelvis is pointing out just a few of them in epic fashion in recent posts.

If anything with youre bluffy/aggro/spewy image you should nit it up big time, and print money for a while with the lowest variance possible.


OP is a gambling addict and that will never happen.

$4k to busto, right?
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07-15-2018 , 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by sl8a
A man is not a man till he has cold 4bet squeezed AJo for 7% of his net worth.
Oh **** I'm dying.
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07-15-2018 , 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
Feeling really sh*t after these 2 hands:

Hand 1: Bullsh*t squeeze
2/5, 1k effective

Tilted reg opens $15 UTG
4 callers
MAWG squeezes $105 CO
Hero 4bets $280 BTN with AJo
Tilted reg 5bet jams $361
Hero calls $361

Tilted reg shows 97s and sucks out for an almost $900 pot.

Hand 2: Not so bullsh*t squeeze...

2/5, $600 effective

1 limper
Hero raises $25 CO with 99
BTN calls $25
SB calls $25
BB squeezes to $145
Hero 4bet jams $600
BB snaps with AA and holds

I was just telling myself that I wanted to cash out, but I convinced myself to stay for 1 more orbit, then these 2 hands happen right at the very end. That's the worst part.
This has got to be troll though right? It's just too perfectly encapsulates everything about OP that has been tilting the regular thread posters.

I hope for OPs sake it as an excellently maneuvered troll because going to Sydney with a 3.5K life roll will really suck.
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