Dog,

Not only is he not hurting anyone, he’s providing the main content for an excellent thread. I hope his run continues for a while.

To all the people who disagree with my KQ jam: what do you think the optimal shoving range should be in that spot? Or do you prefer to have a 3bet/fold range?

Thank you! Well today represents 2 years that my girlfriend has been in Australia, so I'm going to take her out somewhere nice tonight to celebrate, once she finishes her shift. That will probably only cost about $100 though. The rest of the profit will just go back into the bankroll so that I can continue grinding 1/3 NL and hopefully soon reach the stage where I can grind more 2/5 NL.

Split a pack of Twinkies. There's one in there for each of you and it only costs $2.00. That's like $98 of added value to your night.

Wtf is a twinkie? Isn't that a derogatory word for gay people?

lol at you not understanding how terrible your kqo jam was. Doing dumb ****. like that with a small br.

Please explain to me, in detail, what all of your ranges are in that spot.
1) What range of hands are you flatting the $30 with?
2) What range of hands are you 3betting to a non-committing amount (eg. $90) then folding?
3) What range of hands are you 3betting to a non-committing amount then calling?
4) What range of hands are you 3bet jamming?

You are quick to criticise my ranges, yet you can't come up with any better alternatives.

6,

Why do you expect people to spoon feed you basic information? Why don’t you instead explain why you thought the push was a good/standard/profitable move in that spot? Show your work.

Firstly I wouldn't be doing stupid stuff like throwing in straddles for 'more action' and playing '30bb' push fold when my br is on its last legs. If you think you have an edge (lul) you should be looking to play deeper, not that crap. If you do want to jam then it would be for pure value like TT/AK+ rather than king high (lul). Its like you enjoy getting in ******ed spots all the time. You sound like one of those people that we all probably know, who just can't do anything right, no matter what you find a way to mess up. The type to buy a new car, then crash it the next day after forgetting to buy insurance. In 108 pages I don't recall you ever making an intelligent move.

Literally nothing should be flatted, and you shouldn't be in this spot because you should never be wasting money by straddling in the first place. But you are a degen and the only purpose to you playing poker is to gamble whether you will admit it or not.

You should never be bluffing here, every raise should only be for value with the intent of stacking off. And again you shouldn't have put yourself in such an idiotic spot to begin with. Everything else should be folded. Period.

Again, you should never be in this spot, there is no such thing as a "non-committing" spot when their is a 10x raise back to you. And don't expound some bull**** about your idiotic straddle somehow changed the blinds or your "pot odds" are better. None of that bull**** matters because you are playing 1/3 live which is the equivalent of 2NL online. Consider your straddle a misclick, fold, and move on, never doing it again under any circumstance. But every single person in this thread knows you will do it again because you are not a reg, and not a winning player trying to make money. You are a gambling degenerate.

You should go count the combo's

Lol that somebody criticizes an idiotic range which includes stacking off KQo 100 deep or even 30 bb's deep if you want to pretend that's what it was. I also don't think anybody here should tell you what an appropriate range should be because they are wasting their time.

It's not a good sign for a professional poker player when your only decent winning session in living memory arose from repeatedly getting it in bad and sucking out.

Lol, no not in this case. It's a snack cake filled with cream.

Lol this isn't basic at all. There's a lot of grey area around 30bb play. Look at how hard some of the SnG experts study this spot.

I don't claim to know with 100% certainty what the correct ranges are, but I think that my ranges are okay. If there's any mistakes with my ranges, then they'd only be minor leaks, not massive ones.

Calling range = {22-66, 65s-QJs, 86s-QTs, A2s, A6s-A9s, A8o, A9o, ATo, KTo, KJo, QJo, QTo, JTo}
3bet/fold range = {A3s-A5s}
3bet/call range = {AK, KK, AA}
3bet jam range = {77-QQ, AJ, AQ, KQ, KJs, ATs}

Now who volunteers to come up with any better ranges against the aggro fish?

Typical response. You dodge the question. Your argument is "I don't know what I'd do in that hypothetical because I'd never put myself in that situation in the first place!"

Deep down, you're too embarrassed to give an educated guess because you're so clueless about how to play this spot that you know you'll make a fool of yourself if you try to answer the question. That's why you avoid answering it at all costs.

6,

That’s not showing your work, that’s simply listing out some hands you guessed at.

Why those ranges?

What range does he have? What portion of that range continues vs various actions? What’s your EV vs each set of ranges that continues?

And no, this is not a complicated situation at all. It’s also not a SNG.

I don't have equilab so I'm unable to put in ranges. These are just educated guesses. I can do some rough maths in my head to justify it, like I know that KQ is ahead of a range of {22+, KT+, QT+}. I just count the number of hands which I dominate (KT, KJ, QT, QJ) vs the number of hands that dominate me (AQ, AK, QQ+). But obviously if I wanted more precise answers, I'd need to be clairvoyant about villain's range and I'd also need equilab. It's all just guesswork in the end.

Like how am I supposed to tell you whether or not it's profitable to defend 87s from the BB? I can intuitively guess that it probably is against any reasonable sized open raise (4x or less), but I can't prove it mathematically.

I have never played this ******ed format but if I did I wouldn't have a 3bet fold range at all. I also wouldn't be flatting with the following trash which Im pretty sure is terrible along with at least half of those other ranges.

Flatting range would be 22-99 and broadways not including AK,AQs

3bet range TT+/AK


Like gee maybe you should have thought about that before you decided to throw in the straddle? lul. You have enough trouble with standard poker without complicating things.

30bb poker is actually less complex than 100bb poker, so I'm simplifying the game by straddling; not overcomplicating it.

And I told you my reason for straddling. It was a boring nitty table and I wanted to induce a bit of action. How much EV do you even think I'm losing by throwing out a $10 straddle? Maybe $6 in EV? If my win rate is $30/hr then I can afford to give up $6 in EV to potentially loosen up the table.

About $200 judging from that hand.

Big if.

6,

The problem for you is your guesses and rough math have led you to a very wrong conclusion. But that’s assuming you actually made that play based on some sort of analysis, which isn’t really what happened. You’re just trying to come up for a rationalization of your action after the fact.

No, these are my default 30bb ranges that I've had for years. I didn't just make those ranges up on the spot. I used to play a lot of hyper turbo SnGs years ago and I got pretty familiar with push/fold charts. Whilst those charts don't go up to 30bbs, I think I still have a decent understanding, even if I don't know it perfectly.

So when an aggro fish, who had previously made a 2.3x open from UTG with 74s, now makes a 3x raise in MP when you're 30bb effective, you're going to flat with 99 and AQ instead of 3betting? Seems way too nitty to me.

6,

Did this 1/3 table have rapidly escalating blinds and a top-heavy payout structure?

And what sizing would you choose with your 3bet sizing?
Let's say, for argument's sake, that you 3bet to $90 with TT. Now there's $180 in the pot, you have $210 behind, you're OOP and the flop comes K82. What's your plan now? Or you didn't think ahead?

6,

Also, you can keep saying it, but you’re not 30BB effective, you’re 100BB. That is a common error/fallacy wrt how people play in small games when there’s a straddle, which has recently been covered in depth in a couple of LLSNL posts.

If he's calling with AQ+, AJs+, TT+ then we need him to fold 110 combos to break even (so he need to be opening wider than all pairs and broadways)

If he's calling like AT+, 88+, KQ, JTs, QJs, TJs then he needs to fold 153 combos for us to break even (so he needs to be opening wider than all pairs, all broadways, all suited aces, all SCs and a couple of gappers).

Either way, he has to open/fold a lot and that's just to break even. Even if the spot's +EV it's not going to be super profitable and the variance is through the roof.