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07-14-2018 , 05:31 AM
You don't "prioritize poker", you prioritize gambling. And whining. And burying your head in the sand. You have no plan, no discipline, just basically no clue whatsoever. You keep hoping things are going to magically turn around for you, since that's how poker, and life, work in your mind. At this point you're a lost cause if ever I've seen one.
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07-14-2018 , 05:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I'm not saying that anyone who plays poker part-time is a failure; I'm just saying that my person goal is to play poker full-time for at least a year before I get into other sources of income. If other people don't prioritise poker as much as I do then that's fine for them.

And 13 buyins is 13 buyins, regardless of whether I use them up now or use them up slowly over a 6 month period as I work a job on the side, so what difference does it make? Mathematically, it actually makes more sense for me to shoot for the stars now, since if I succeed now, I'll be 6 months younger and have more time to invest it elsewhere, and if I fail, I'll have 6 months longer to pick myself up from the ground. Why delay an investment for the future, if you know you're going to put that money in it eventually?


It matters because if you’re working in a job, you don’t need to subtract from the buy ins to pay rent food and bills ffs.

What does ‘succeed’ mean btw? What are your goals ?
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07-14-2018 , 05:45 AM
I'm playing 1/3 NL right now so that's evidence that I'm taking it seriously.
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07-14-2018 , 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
It matters because if you’re working in a job, you don’t need to subtract from the buy ins to pay rent food and bills ffs.

What does ‘succeed’ mean btw? What are your goals ?
Yeah exactly. I specifically said get a job to cover living expenses. And it's not really 13 BIs, have you already lost at least two buy-ins on entertainment for upcoming trip to Sydney?
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07-14-2018 , 06:02 AM
In poker, and in life, the most successful people are those who adapt. Getting a job would not be a failure, but an adaptation.

I am sharing this for you as much as myself bc I can relate to that particular "failure" feeling, but you must realize you are creating it in your own mind.

I once stayed with a girl much longer than I should have bc she was nice and i didnt want the relationship to be a failure. I should have ended it way sooner for both of us.

I once stayed at a job 2 years past a day I came home screaming that I was quitting the next day bc the work was making me suicidal. The job was great on my resume and I didnt want to end it and be a failure. I should have quit that day.

Putting your head down and walking one exact path bc that's all you see is what cattle do. You want to be a wolf. Wolves will track prey for days then give up. They will travel 100 miles in one direction then change course and come back. They will eat prey that they've never encountered before. They will leave their habitat entirely.

Wolves are not blinded by the idea that they must be on one path. They just hunt, eat, and survive. They make the path.
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07-14-2018 , 06:10 AM
So tilted. Just levelled myself

Villain ($326, UTG+2) - Button clicking 20s Asian guy. Has 3bet a couple of times (one time he went to $55 after an open to $15 and 2 callers). Another time he opened to $20 UTG on a 9-handed table with QJs, and after a caller and a shorty jams $55, he decides to 4bet to $120 instead of flatting or just jamming $300. So I assumed he was an aggro fish with a wide 4b range.

Passive fish ($120, MP) - Standard fish.

Hero ($500, HJ) - TAG image, bordering on the nitty side.

Villain opens $20
Passive fish calls $20
Hero 3bets to $80 with AQo
Villain 4bets to $180
Passive fish folds
Hero 5bet jams $326
Villain calls $326 with AA

The 3bet pre was mandatory against this particular player, but against the 4bet, I should be sigh folding, especially when he picks such a nutted sizing like this.
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07-14-2018 , 06:30 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I'm playing 1/3 NL right now so that's evidence that I'm taking it seriously.
No, it's not.
It's the same as chicks who walk into a gym, take 20 selfies with #workinghard hashtag and then immediately leave after 15 minutes workout.
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07-14-2018 , 06:59 AM
Why would you ever jam over a 4 bet with AQo?
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07-14-2018 , 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
Why would you ever jam over a 4 bet with AQo?
Because if your ratio of bluffs:value drops below 8 you're not a pwo player.
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07-14-2018 , 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I'm playing 1/3 NL right now so that's evidence that I'm taking it seriously.
You are the single most mind blowing ****** in all on 2+2.

You honestly think just because you're playing 1/3 it means you're taking poker seriously???

I just... I don't see how you can be like this irl....
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07-14-2018 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
Why would you ever jam over a 4 bet with AQo?
Cuz blockers and GTO and he counted the combos geez...
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07-14-2018 , 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
And 13 buyins is 13 buyins, regardless of whether I use them up now or use them up slowly over a 6 month period as I work a job on the side, so what difference does it make? Mathematically, it actually makes more sense for me to shoot for the stars now, since if I succeed now, I'll be 6 months younger and have more time to invest it elsewhere, and if I fail, I'll have 6 months longer to pick myself up from the ground. Why delay an investment for the future, if you know you're going to put that money in it eventually?
This is it for me. I'm out like squid. Dude doesn't want to get better. Immaturity or gambling addiction or just a troll/clown, doesn't matter, but this is the literally the dumbest thing I've read... possibly ever.

Like, where did the guy say to stop playing poker full time? He said get a job part time... and 6 months isn't 6 months when bankroll also equals life roll. Gosh, you might have to put in 40 hours a week at poker AND 20-25 hours a week working retail or slanging pizzas? It's like actors who go to auditions and get rejected all day and then go work at Starbucks... that's what it takes to be successful when you have a monthly nut to cover.

Anyway, enjoy this train wreck 2+2, but I'm bored now. Not enough drugs, women, drinking or proper gambling for the amount of dumb I am reading. It's just sad one man against the world drama (a world that is actually trying to help him).

Good luck, kid.

Peace
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07-14-2018 , 08:50 AM
And how do you think those actors feel when they go to work at Starbucks? How do they feel when they're told to smile at work and be happy and enthusiastic, when deep down, they resent the fact that they're still there? What if that Starbucks store happens to be located right next to the uni which they got kicked out of and they have former classmates coming in regularly, asking them how their degree is going, and they have to explain the whole story to the customers, whilst also smiling the whole time because they're working a service job and can't show negative emotions on shift? Do you see how that might have a toll on them?
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07-14-2018 , 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by feel wrath
Why would you ever jam over a 4 bet with AQo?
Because I saw this player 4ber QJs about 45m prior to this.
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07-14-2018 , 09:17 AM
Why did you get kicked out of uni?
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07-14-2018 , 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
And how do you think those actors feel when they go to work at Starbucks? How do they feel when they're told to smile at work and be happy and enthusiastic, when deep down, they resent the fact that they're still there? What if that Starbucks store happens to be located right next to the uni which they got kicked out of and they have former classmates coming in regularly, asking them how their degree is going, and they have to explain the whole story to the customers, whilst also smiling the whole time because they're working a service job and can't show negative emotions on shift? Do you see how that might have a toll on them?

It's pretty clear now. You're of the impression you're owed something and shouldn't have to put in the work to get where and what you want. They're called sacrifices for a reason and nobody who reaches great success can avoid them. If you're really that worried about how it may look or that you might not be happy working short term in a part time gig then I hate to break it to you but you're ****ing soft man.
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07-14-2018 , 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
And how do you think those actors feel when they go to work at Starbucks? How do they feel when they're told to smile at work and be happy and enthusiastic, when deep down, they resent the fact that they're still there? What if that Starbucks store happens to be located right next to the uni which they got kicked out of and they have former classmates coming in regularly, asking them how their degree is going, and they have to explain the whole story to the customers, whilst also smiling the whole time because they're working a service job and can't show negative emotions on shift? Do you see how that might have a toll on them?
Thank you for confirming what I already knew. You are a self entitled, whiny, millennial who has an excuse for everything. You refuse or are incapable of working hard for anything. You want it handed to you.

We've heard all about how you think the previous generations had it better. How its too cold to walk 10 minutes to the casino. How your girlfriend has to have an expensive phone. How you think its easy to make $300,000 a year playing poker. I could go on and on.

I could write an entire essay about how people like you are destroying the fabric of our entire society. My guess is that you had no strong hard working father figure role model in your life.

Who's fault is it that you got kicked out of Uni? The rest of the world? Whose fault is it that you cant listen to people trying to help you get better at poker. Whose fault is it that you cant drag your ass to the poker room 40 hours a week?

I got laid off from a job at 23 years old. Did I sit around and whine about it?
Did I complain that life is too hard and it was so much easier for my parents when they were my age? I didn't have money for College, so I sacked up and I joined the Army. I was sent overseas away from my family for years. I shed blood, sweat and tears for my friends and my Country and I became a man.

I got out of the Army and started a career. I worked hard, worked overtime and saved as much money as possible, taught myself to invest my money properly and retired young. Nothing was handed to me. I had to take it. You really really really need to come to grips with the fact that this world owes you nothing.

You resent the fact that your former classmates are doing well? They worked hard. You didnt. That's life buddy.
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07-14-2018 , 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I'm not saying that anyone who plays poker part-time is a failure; I'm just saying that my person goal is to play poker full-time for at least a year before I get into other sources of income. If other people don't prioritise poker as much as I do then that's fine for them.

And 13 buyins is 13 buyins, regardless of whether I use them up now or use them up slowly over a 6 month period as I work a job on the side, so what difference does it make? Mathematically, it actually makes more sense for me to shoot for the stars now, since if I succeed now, I'll be 6 months younger and have more time to invest it elsewhere, and if I fail, I'll have 6 months longer to pick myself up from the ground. Why delay an investment for the future, if you know you're going to put that money in it eventually?
This is your problem. You just want to get rich quick and hope to go on a ridiculously hot run. Instead of relying on your skill over a prolonged period of time, building up very large sample sizes and grinding up the stakes.

If being a poker pro is such a big deal for you and you want it so badly, why are you putting in so few hours? Why did you spend the best part of the last month lazing around playing computer games? Answer those questions please.

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Originally Posted by dogarse
Why did you get kicked out of uni?
He couldn't find the self-motivation to complete uni, and being a poker pro requires far more self-motivation than uni ever does in my opinion.


By the way no one wants you to fail OP, but the way things are going, you will do if things don't change.
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07-14-2018 , 10:31 AM
6,

Do you get paid any welfare/benefits from the government?
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07-14-2018 , 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
So tilted. Just levelled myself

Villain ($326, UTG+2) - Button clicking 20s Asian guy. Has 3bet a couple of times (one time he went to $55 after an open to $15 and 2 callers). Another time he opened to $20 UTG on a 9-handed table with QJs, and after a caller and a shorty jams $55, he decides to 4bet to $120 instead of flatting or just jamming $300. So I assumed he was an aggro fish with a wide 4b range.

Passive fish ($120, MP) - Standard fish.

Hero ($500, HJ) - TAG image, bordering on the nitty side.

Villain opens $20
Passive fish calls $20
Hero 3bets to $80 with AQo
Villain 4bets to $180
Passive fish folds
Hero 5bet jams $326
Villain calls $326 with AA

The 3bet pre was mandatory against this particular player, but against the 4bet, I should be sigh folding, especially when he picks such a nutted sizing like this.
General rule for 1/3 crown, if you're in a spot where you feel like folding is too exploitable, just make the exploitable fold lol, everyone is underbluffing.

The ev you lose from making an "exploitable fold" is usually more than made up by the value you get from idiots calling.

When I first looked at pio solver and started learning about game theory I had this mentality that everyone was trying to exploit me because it was blatantly obvious that I was a nitty tag, eg "man I just got 3 bet! I have to call with 40% of my range here or else this old nit is printing money with his 3 bet!"

And I was also like "oh **** I flopped my weakest flush draw, I have to bluff this or else it's blatantly obvious that I'm an unbalanced nit!"

I know the Asian guy you're talking about haha (trendy haircut, glasses, headphones(although that describes a lot of people lol)), yeah he 4 bet with QJs but he obviously wanted to run out the board with all the dead money and his dominated hand that he went too deep with. He's never 4 betting light in usual spots.

Anyway I'll come say hi if I see you again, good luck with grinding. Just work hard, keep a decent sleep schedule, get out of the house, go into state library and study poker hands and spots if you have to for a change of scenery.

In your age and I'm aiming to play 2/5 in December

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07-14-2018 , 10:55 AM
I'm not resentful of the people that graduated uni. I'm happy for them. I just don't like to dwell on the past. They represent my past. I want to concentrate on the present and the future.

I played a 2hr session today and got tilted, so I left. I went home for a few hours, listened to some music, ate some food, had a conversation with my girlfriend and with a mate, cleared my mind, then returned to the casino, where I am now, currently grinding 1/3 NL again.

No, I'm currently getting nothing from Centrelink.
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07-14-2018 , 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 6bet me
I'm playing 1/3 NL right now so that's evidence that I'm taking it seriously.
lol, I was standing next to you when you went to get a ticket for the game, do you remember our conversation? You said you would put yourself on the list for 1/3 and 2/5 and take whichever came up first. You only went to 1/3 because there was a waiting list for 2/5 and two seats open for 1/3. So no, i'd say this isn't evidence you're taking poker seriously. Stick to 1/3 for a month with an average of 5 hours a day, then maybe you can tell yourself you're taking this seriously.
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07-14-2018 , 11:50 AM
Man I want OP to succeed because it's not nice to see anyone fail but everything I read makes me think he is only destined for bustoville. The first step to your success OP will be to stop lying to yourself.
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07-14-2018 , 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by JiminyShipIt
lol, I was standing next to you when you went to get a ticket for the game, do you remember our conversation? You said you would put yourself on the list for 1/3 and 2/5 and take whichever came up first. You only went to 1/3 because there was a waiting list for 2/5 and two seats open for 1/3. So no, i'd say this isn't evidence you're taking poker seriously. Stick to 1/3 for a month with an average of 5 hours a day, then maybe you can tell yourself you're taking this seriously.
Yeah and within 5 mins of sitting down at a 1/3 table, I get a text message telling me that my 2/5 table is now available. But I stay at the 1/3 instead.
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07-14-2018 , 12:07 PM
Cliffs for the last 2600+ posts:

OP is:

A) soft
B) a snowflake
C) lazy
D) unwilling to work for what he wants
E) a degenerate gambler
F) unwilling to take advice
G) unable to be objective
H) going to go busto
I) all of the above

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