chiming in again to say that your "no live poker past midnight" is the most asinine thing I've ever heard from a "professional poker player." But that doesn't really matter because you're just a helpless degenerate with a 50% APR loaned bankroll.

You like the idea of being poker pro. You do not like to do what it actually takes to be a poker pro.

No I do not.

The no playing after midnight is only effective if you’re starting your sessions at like 1-3pm. The idea is to do something productive in the morning, like going to the gym, meal preps, studying poker, followed by a session.

Knowing you have set a rule for no poker after midnight and starting at 10.30pm is poor form. You’ve just been undisciplined at structuring your routine. If you continue to do that you might as well abandon the midnight rule and live the degen lifestyle for max $$.

6, you have to learn to love the process, if you don’t, there’s a very very low chance of you making it in whatever you do.

Good post. Something needs to change: grind earlier or change the rule. Takes a lot of discipline to realize you are doing something wrong and change.

Right now that rule just serves as an excuse to put in poor volume at the game he needs to be playing the most.

We all know what happens when you let him play poker after midnight.

OP is too young to understand the reference.

A little late on this, but I'm gonna provide my own insight that you can and likely will choose to ignore, but I think it could be valuable to think about in terms of your approach to the game.

From this and other hands, it seems like you default to asking yourself "how can he beat me?" If you decide it's not that likely, you call/shove.

This is a hand where you really needed to ask yourself, "how can he have a worse hand that calls a shove?" c/c'd a J twice and then made a really strong donk when the flush comes in? That's not really a thing these days.

And imo you have a sort of weird, inconsistent logic where you act surprised that villain could be bad enough to have wide heart draws but still think he'd take this line, and call, with a J, which would be terrible.

edit: keep in mind, you bet small on the flop. So backdoor draws are all over the place.

Can OP please do some math to justify 15k loan w/interest where 40 hours a week of anything is boring? What's that hourly like playing 2/5 if you put in 10 hours a week?

If I can move to Melbourne with no silly loans and make half as much I think I've solved life.

Try having little money, family is hungry, and rent is late. See how boring that is. FYI, not boring.

Still that is better than being an upside down gambler.

6b is procrastinating a complete life crushing meltdown. The reason is fear. He is afraid to fail.

Get over that ****. The world does not gaf.

He has money to live on in bank so he can’t be bothered to grind , he has paid back part of loan and thinks that’s fine now and will bum about until just before next payment is due , then degen higher and pay a friend the fine to panic meet payment, classic

It's funny people, especially 6 bet, talk about "grinding 8 hour sessions" as if that's hard. I think most people who play live, at least all the ones I know, will happily play 16+ hours and have to force themselves to get up and leave because it's getting late and they have work. I have a buddy who says, probably truthfully, that he's never left a poker game. He can't bring himself to do it, he'll just sit there and play until the game breaks when ever that is.

Yeah, so, dude. That's not "most." By any stretch of the imagination. Those are called degens, and we are among them and love them

Because of these hands and the KK in 25NL is why I know you are doomed. It's so sad though.

Iso with 43s??

3x KQo and call down pot sized bets wondering where you went wrong? Really?

Would call a check raise with AK on 877 flop? Really???

Shove over a donk river lead with one pair KK... REALLY??

DOOMED BRO

Appreciated

OP has a bad case of thinking that everybody is out to bluff him. Just because you play that way OP doesn't mean the general population does. I was a break even player before I realised this. Stop trying to play GTO and respect when people raise. The AK hand for example: After a bet and call what do you think HJ is raising? QJ? AQ?

No he is probably raising an 8 to try and get overpairs to call a street or at best is raising a few straight draws such as T9s, J9s, JTs etc. which may also have backdoor flush draws. You are only about a 63% favourite against these hands.

If he bluffed you then so what, good for him. Just fold and move on. If it helps reduce the variance you experience and allows you to keep a frame of mind to grind more then that is good too. After I play bad and lose a big pot it can put me off playing through a session so I try to avoid these marginal spots as much as I can and go after the real money. Stacking fish.

I used to think the ridiculous punts I saw on zone were just misfiring bots because I failed to believe any human brain could be that ******ed, but thankfully OP has now enlightened me on the matter. They were in reality just doing a 6bet.

I would just like to write a generic thank you to everyone posting in this thread. It has certainly helped the way I think about poker (more the theory/mindset advice as opposed to specific hand history advice, and especially as it relates to LLSNL)

lol mirage if you think bots are punting, bots are pretty much the top regs, just because you can't understand what they're doing doesn't mean they are punting

Jam over the river lead on the 3 to a flush 3 to a straight board with 1 pair is the best troll fake hand history to date. Thanks, OP. You have restored my faith in the fishyness of 25nl.

edit : 200 big blinds deep

The best part about it is that it isn't a troll.

25nl is like sand running through a timer for OP's bankroll

this is incorrect and shows you probably dont have what it takes to make it. ive been doing 60+ hour weeks online for 10+ years and i never get bored or burned out. i actually have to force myself to take days off just for mental health reasons. if you are not a sick degenerate grind on the mind 24/7 you cannot be a pro

To be fair, i never been a 6max player so i cant really go too much in-depth but ive spend the last 4-5 years playing HU for a living and honestly, i dont know if its me or no but i see so many hands of you where it seems like you bet just to bet. Do you even know why you bet that 43 hand? Thats like a perfect hand to check back.

I have the feeling you bet just to bully people and be agressive. Im not saying its necessarly bad and i do sometimes bet that 43 against certain type of regs for a balance purpose but against unknown thats definitely a check-back.

I dont know your stats but i can tell just by reading this thread for a long time now that youre having a big leak regarding your cbet %. You put yourself in ****ty spots by over cbetting. You should try to develop a check-back game more because at the moment from what ive seen it seems like its non existent.

Just out of curiosity, whats your % cbet? (on both flop & turn)

Same with the AKss, thats also a hand where you can check-back since theres ton of turn that will improve your hand and most of the time here youre ahead anyway. By betting you risk yourself to be put in ****ty situations by people with either stone cold bluff (fish like to cr these kind of boards with air) or semi bluff w/ hands that can barrel you off the best hand (56, J9, JT, T9, any hands with overs & bdfd (JTdd, etc etc etc))

One can get burned out when poker is a job but OP burned out in record time. I thought I was terrible about volume but while there were times I would put in 4 hour sessions there were other times I would put in 20+ hour sessions. If games are good a lot of the true grinders never leave. I know a grinder that recently made $20k+ playing a 24+ hour 5/T session. I know another that sat at Wynn 2/5 with $500 with the intention of playing until he profited $5k. After 30+ hours he met his goal. However, if he had needed 60 hours to reach his goal he would have played for 60+ hours straight because that amount of volume is not unusual for him at all.

It's generally not advisable to play to get back to even but at least you get some volume in. I know a player that always did this and one time he made a stupid play shoving QQ into AA for $2k (200bbs) towards the beginning of a session Thursday night. He continued to play the rest of Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday until early Monday morning when he finally got back to even. 75+hrs straight.

Very good point.