Lol, u consider eating out eating cheaply? Cook your own food, Man. Ffs

That ain't a friend.

Do you think half your hourly expectation at 1/3NL is more money than delivering pizzas? Also, in retrospect, do you still think buying your gf a $850 phone was a good idea and you'd do it again? Good luck OP.

Welcome back, 6b. I can't wait until your alter ego, Outlawbull**** comes back next week.

I knew it was just a matter of time before 6BM came back with a good story talking about learning his lessons and starting again. When I predicted this I was called a d*** IIRC.

So basically 6BM degens it up for several months, has zero plans for what happens if he goes busto, goes busto, makes no effort to find a job despite having basically zero money, and suffers no real negative consequences for his degeneracy and lack of planning because he gets some random cashflow and has his poker career bailed out by a backer.

When there are no negative consequences for addicts' behavior they just keep doing the same thing.

I hope your backer watches you like a hawk 6BM, for both your sakes.

Pretty much this, hitting the bullseye.

Way to go OP. With ur friends’ support you can make this happen. Just don’t be too prideful to get a job if need be. Some ppl aren’t cut out for poker (such as myself), life isn’t over if ur one of those ppl. And even if u don’t succeed again, doesn’t mean u will never be able to. U just may need multiple tries. A regular job will give u all the second chances needed.


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All investments involve calculated risk, I make a healthy amount of my money playing poker / sportsbetting, and staking people in both of these areas. Most of these investments work out, some don't, but thats just the nature of this space.

I think 6b has the TECHNICAL capabilities of beating the 1/3 game at Crown, the players are absolutely brain dead. However, 6b has way too many life leaks atm to make him successful as an individual, as we've seen in this thread.

My deal with 6b involves an extensive list of conditions which are essentially a list of controls to prevent him from going off the rails. For example: a structured schedule and having someone I trust, or myself, being at the casino to verify each session. Most importantly, we've agreed that if 6b does anything that is different to what we've agreed to aka get OOL, I can quit our deal and he will owe me the full amount of the makeup.

So.... is this really going to be that bad of a deal? Worst case scenario he gets crushed in 1/3 for 20 buyins and I torch like 6k. However, I think if 6b actually follows the blueprint I essentially used to crush 1/3, coupled with the right life coaching, 6b can also beat the game.

For anyone that's genuinely interested and doesn't have a negative mindset, I offer life coaching around how to be successful in areas like poker/sportsbetting. HMU (:

It looks like a solid investment, what the backer sad is true: 6betme probably crushes those games, his problem was with bad brm and bad use of his cash outsidd of the tables.

Maybe this could even help him to be more consistent and finally a good poker professional.

So if OP actually manages to win consistently his hourly at 1/3 is cut in half? How is he supposed to live off that?

Assuming you can collect when he breaks the agreement it seems like a good investment. You get to make profits until the gambling addict / alcoholic with cyclical depression falls off the rails at which point you collect on any losses as well. The only scenario where you lose is if 6BM goes on a 20+ BI downswing and busts without breaking the agreement. Which given the thread history seems unlikely, since just about every time 6BM ran bad for a spell his solution was to drink and/or move up in stakes and/or play table games. Presumably any of these things violate the agreement.

So yeah I guess it might be a decent investment. Actually seems a bit predatory, though I'll admit I only know the basics of staking and perhaps these kind of conditions are standard with high risk players.

My day job is in risk consulting, so very used to implementing good strong controls in processes. Ie 6b has to come to the verifier for get chips to buyin/rebuy, he has to rack up in the presence of the verifier before cashing out and handing all of the cash to them. The whole point is that he can’t really get OOL with my money to degen it off at high stakes / pitgames. May seem “predatory” or too excessive to have these level of controls in place, but some players just need to be micromanaged to succeed before they’ve developed the discipline to go off on their own.

From his point of view, 6b can quit me if he thinks it’s such a bad deal for him. Let’s be real though, it’s hard to find someone to back you in his situation.

Beating 1/3 for $10 an hour may be worse than delivering pizza, but look at it as a personal long term investment to eventually allow yourself to beat the game for a lot more than that on your own. Not everything is about the short term $/hr

Let's say OP loses $2k but doesn't break any rules and wants to quit. Does he owe any makeup?

Guys, I’m not really planning on replying to any more posts on this thread. I feel like I’ve explained why I’m backing 6b to a sufficient degree. This is a really negative place so I’m staying the **** away.

Why would anyone who likes money invest in this guy?? He still thinks eating out is "eating cheap", this guy ain't learned anything...

It seems mindblowingly stupid to invest in this guy... I'm assuming the staker knows something we don't....

+1

I literally don't know anyone who thinks eating out is the cheap alternative. 1st post back and we already in stupidville.

I'm confused... OP said he's giving 50% of profits to his backer. Then, he says he has a different friend who is coaching him for 50% of profits. Is the coach getting 50% of your net? So basically, you make $100, split that 50/50 with the backer, then split your $50 50/50 with your coach, leaving you with $25? Am I reading this right?

When did this thread get so personal and everyone turn into such arseholes?

I can't believe how butthurt people are that a random guy on the internet wants to grab a meet pie from the case station rather then cook up some vegetables.

The threads been a great ride for the bravado and for 6bets pure openness and honesty but it can pretty much be summed up as "new player has early success, gets cocky and thinks he's better than he is, plays too high, hits downswing loses roll". Isn't this how 90% of winning poker players started out?

Kid's 22 or 24 or whatever, graduated uni, has no responsibilities, could probably move back into his parents house and walk into a dozen min wage jobs tomorrow if it came to crunch time and you guys are acting like he the most irresponsible, piece of **** degen the internet has ever scene. All for losing or spending $10K of his own money, the majority of which he won playing poker.

I really don't understand the vitriol at all. There's been a lot of good advice given in this thread and a lot of valid criticisms made and I'm sure it was a lot of fun for the people giving the advice and making the criticisms, I know it was for me, but I thought it was all done from a place of love and appreciation for this great thread and genuine wish to see 6bet succeed but now it's just turned into way over the top hate and negativity. I don't get it at all.

It sounded to me like the backing deal was for live 1/3 and the coaching deal was for $25nl on ignition where OP presumably still has a roll to grind (or coach is putting up the money). The two seem to be mutually exclusive.

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Welcome to the internet :/

I'm not thrilled about it either.

The backing deal was for live 1/3 NL. The coaching deal was for 25nl online.

Regarding the backing deal: if DLuo chooses to quit me and I've done nothing wrong (I like to think of this as being made "redundant"), then any profit I made will be split in the agreed ratio. If I have made no profit, then any previous money I took out will be returned and any losses above that will be incurred by DLuo.

But if I do something wrong that violates the terms and conditions of the backing deal and the agreement ends as a result of that (I like to think of this as being "fired"), then I owe 100% of the makeup.

I think that this is a fair agreement. It's just a normal backing arrangement but with added incentive for me to follow all the rules.

Just imagine if you would followed just 10% of the free advice you got here. You would still have money and you would be playing for 100% of your profits instead of 50%.

(Not that I believe there is going to be any profits)

Dude, we get it.

Wb and Gl OP.

Hey OP, what will your schedule look like, how many days/hours per week and at what times can we expect to see you at crown? Does the staking deal also cover home games?

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