Mirage,

IIRC he said earlier rent is $700.

all we need to know...

I assume thats per month, so around $175pw. You can get apartments in melb for as little as $250. Seems like a ******ed choice from OP. thats if hes not bull****ting I mean. OP and GF could easily afford that if they could afford $900 phones.

I pay $150/week rent.

25nl is going well so far. Played 3k hands now and $170 up. There are still some spots that I'm struggling with though, especially spots like this:

$25 effective
Hero raises $0.60 CO with AQcc
Villain 3bets $2.40 BB
Hero calls $2.40

Flop ($4.90) is 8s 7s 3c

Villain bets $2.50
Hero calls $2.50

Turn ($9.90) is 8s 7s 3c Th

Villain bets $4.75
Hero folds

Did I play this correctly?

I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this point. Win rates tend to get exaggerated on internet forums. People always add a few extra bb/100 here and there (much like people add a couple of inches to their height or a few thousand more to their income on their online dating profiles). Once you get a huge sample size (1 million+ hands) and take into account you're playing for a living (so some frustration/mistakes will creep in from time to time - we're only human), 4bb/100 is a very good win rate.

You shouldn't need a backer for something like 1/3 if you're such a big crusher as you say you are. Work a job for 6 months, save up, quit that job and go crush 1/3. But you don't do this, because I think you know deep down you can't beat it (although not saying you couldn't if you completely altered your mindset).

Well if there was a single fool-proof strategy, everyone would already be using it. Generally speaking, if there's an easy way of making money, someone more intelligent than you and I would have discovered it and exploited it already.

I was one of the bigger winners on PTR at $100 and $200nlfr prior to BF. I doubt anyone who knows me would doubt me. You can also search my posts in the micro forum in the stats thread to see my wr . Sorry you're a loser at online poker

Range charts vary so much because they're targeting different games, environments, and player skill levels. What works in Vegas vs LA vs Melbourne vs online are all different, and what works at 1/2 and 1/3 vs 2/5 vs 5/T+ are very different.

But if you know a bit about the environment and players skill level it's pretty easy to come up with solid ranges to use

I disagree. We've pretty much solved hyper turbo SnGs, yet there's still a lot of money to be made from those games because the vast majority of people don't follow the push/fold charts correctly.

Just because a gold mine exists, doesn't mean everyone is going to mine it. Some will, but many won't.

You disagree but argue how hard it is to find appropriate ranges? I don't get it.

And hyper turbo SNGs are not "solved" in any sense. We know the Nash equilibrium for heads up push/fold spots. That's it. And using the Nash equilibrium is generally not a great idea since most people overfold and undershove.

I'm looking specifically for range charts to use at 25nl and 50nl zone on Ignition, if they exist.

Also I'm pretty sure we have solved preflop ranges for 6max hypers up to 25bbs (beyond push/fold territory). We might not have solved the postflop play that ensues though.

Seems 100% std to me. Wp. Gj for not spewing.

Wrt to your other stats. Yeah, they wont converge over that small sample. If you get to like minimum 50k maybe i can look at them.

On ignition, moreso on Zone, you can get away with being really tight and watch money flow in without too much variance as long as you dont spew or donk off your stack. Might lose a little EV here and there but you’re not in a position to be opening/3betting marginal hands

I would ask Minatorr or Xenoblade.

I'm 100% sure multiway preflop is not solved. I have a math degree for whatever that's worth.

LOL at "going pro" and still needing a range chart. Poker is not paint by numbers.

well its nice to know optimal opening ranges by positions, not that you need any of that in your insanely soft games

So you think you know all your preflop ranges perfectly then?

Which hands do you squeeze from the SB against a UTG open and CO call? How does this change if the BTN also calls? Which hands do you 3bet in BB vs SB? If BTN is a competent LAG that 3bets you, which hands do you 4bet in the CO with?

They're not easy questions, but they do have answers, and I'm sure that there are a few solid online regs out there that can give those answers to me. I just need to keep looking.

So why arent you playing those games then?

1) I have been playing those games quite a bit actually.
2) They're high variance though, since you're constantly flipping for stacks. It's even worse than PLO variance.
3) There's not as much action. You often have to wait for games to start and you can often only play 1-2 games at a time for any given level, unless you're willing to mix things up between like a $10 hyper and a $50 hyper, which makes the $10 hyper seem pointless in comparison.
4) I don't know the perfect strategy though. I just know that it exists. Kind of like fixed limit holdem: I know that we've solved HUFL, but I can't play perfect HUFL.

Why are you so convinced hyper turbo SNGs are "solved"? They emphatically are not. If they were, then cash games would also be solved for the corresponding blind levels. There's no difference besides ICM considerations which if anything makes cash games easier to solve.

People have come up with strategies that utilize suggested push/fold charts when blinds get low but there is no Nash equilibria multiway. If one player changes his strategy the optimal strategy changes for the rest.

I used to mass table turbo SNGs and sometimes hyper turbos and it was very profitable and the strategy once I figured it out was pretty easy, hence why I could play up to 30 tables. But it wasnt "solved". I just played super tight in early levels to simplify multitabling and trained push/fold ranges with SNG Wizard.

Cash games pretty much are solved for 25bbs too. Multiway pots should rarely happen if people are playing optimally.

They start at 25BB and people's only options are push/fold? Nah. That's a toy game you're describing and I don't think even that is solved. Do you have links or references to support any of this or you just somehow know that cash games are mathematically solved for 25BB?

(200/500nl player here, prob should mind my business but can't help pile onto the heap of advice that will be ignored)

QTo in CO is very standard open (also can be opened in the HJ). why do you spew with wild ranges live then nit it up online? should be the opposite if anything

FWIW you could be opening T9o in the CO on a lot of tables profitably. Open folding T9o OTB is so painful to hear about it makes me want to quit reading this thread.

+1

I open all that stuff online and I'm a massive nit.

Dunno about you guys, but over 60-80k+ sample of QTo from CO it was basically BE for me at 200NL. Blinds are super squeeze happy and so is the BTN at 200NLz. Maybe in weaker fields/stakes you can turn a profit but against a tough table where SB is 3-betting CO 8-14%, same for BTN, and there’s 1-3 regs otb/sb/bb when you open, + rake, you arent going to show a profit

Yes, QTo is part of a “completely std” CO range. I know. I opened it for half a million hands, everyone opens it, every site advocates for it to be in a 20-25% RFI. But it’s basically BE, and im sure for a good amount of regs who arent in the top of their pool it’s -EV

The main reason why people open BE hands like these is that they get more action on their premiums and so people cant narrow our range down to really strong hands when we RFI (like 14% from CO). But none of that matters on anon poker and poker zone.

Broken, id say the best Ignition reg here on 2+2, basically agrees that most of his hands are BE and said something along the lines of that, and that he just opens it for the sake of it and for the stream.

Checking my database for every hand’s EV shone a few new lights on me. I mean, it’s pretty obvious in hindsight but for example SCs have very low profitably, especially the weaker ones/suited gappers. The big big money makes and basically 90% of your profit is 66+, A10s+, AJo+, KJs+. Everything else is just slightly +EV, near neutral, slightly -EV or just flat out folds (73o, etc). Obv we are trying to maximize our marginal spots and minimize our losses as much as possible, but people way overestimate the EV of hands of say 54s, 75s, 76s, QJo, J10o, etc

With 16% 3bet the shredder needs to run overtime because it can't handle all the money it has to destroy.

I am a winner at online poker, not sure how you came to that conclusion. I cba to search through all the posts in that forum to find your stats. How big is your sample? You can't be that good if you had to drop down from 200nl to 25nl over the last few years, no offence.

Anyway my general point was that win rates get inflated on forums and realistic long term achievable win rates are lower than people think. Otherwise a lot more people would be beating the games and moving up, mid stakes wouldn't be dying and so many pros wouldn't be looking to quit poker over the last few years.

Fair enough. If there's so much money to be made from those games, I assume you're playing them as much as you possibly can?