I know this is rhetorical, but there is an answer to this question.


So, just checking in with this thread after quite a while. Is it for real? Are we convinced OP still plays pokerz or is this just make believe by now?

Because I worried that I was behind a hand like AQ or AK. I only called because of the amazing price I was getting, not because I thought that my hand was miles ahead of their range.

It’s even funnier how you think calling after one villain flats a 3b then backjams + another villain flats the initial 4b AND backjam is +EV. I’d like to get your estimate as to how much equity you think you had preflop in a 4-way pot with KQo + half your stack in the middle rather than jumping for joy at the fact that even the luckiest of flops for you still has you flipping for stacks.

It’s much easier to call anyone who doesn’t make these outrageous plays “scared money” than it is to refine your own game and consider that you torching buyin after buyin with marginal hands because they’re marginally ahead of a “doesn’t fold to 3b ever” range. Just consider that even the times you are ahead it’s relatively rare you’re absolutely dominating with a large equity share. These types of plays on your BR are just a recipe for busto.

Edit: just read your last post. As long as you’re getting a good price it doesn’t matter what your equity is, got it.

This spot just screams "6bet me"

$50 effective, 50nl online

Hero opens $1.25 UTG with KK
Villain 3bets $4 BTN
Hero 4bets $9.75
Villain 5bets $19.50
Hero 6bet jams $50
Villain calls $50 with AKs

He manages to flop an Ace and suck out but still. His 5bet sizing was weird.

i dont get why you posted this hand. If these are the kinds of hands you think are interesting or there is something unusual about, then you are an ever bigger dog at 50nl than everyone already thinks you are.

or are you just trying to post about how you "run bad"?

Let the fish blast off their stacks

50nl online, $50 effective with CO, $42 effective with BTN

CO opens $1
BTN calls $1
Hero 3bets $5 SB with AJo
CO calls $5
BTN calls $5

Flop ($15) is As 9s 4h

Hero checks
CO checks
BTN bets $9.50
Hero calls $9.50
CO folds

Turn ($34) is As 9s 4h 8h

Hero checks
BTN jams $27.50
Hero calls $27.50

BTN shows 75ss and we hold. Serves him right for even calling preflop in the first place.

1) Interesting 5bet sizing
2) Shows the dynamic that people are people are prepared to 5bet/gii AKs against a UTG open

Worth discussing this

25NL online
Hero has $20.69 stack, BTN covers

Hero opens $0.60 HJ
BTN calls $0.60
SB 3bet jams $3.70
Hero rejams $20.69
BTN calls $20.69

Hero has AKo
BTN has 99
SB has T7s

What do you guys think of BTN's play here? Was his decision to call off 83bbs pre with 99 just pure spew, or was it actually okay, since he was trying to defend a capped range?

your 4bet is too small being oop, would be fine in position though

Likely all of the above.

You're right. Looking back on it, I think I should've made it about $12.

You didn't play this hand too badly actually. By the way, you make a lot worse plays than this on a regular basis, so if BTN is a fish for doing this, doesn't that also make you a fish by your own logic?

He probably figures you wouldn't just jam with QQ+ and instead try to trap.

Do you think playing on-line will hurt / throw off your ranging / etc. on your live play?

For example, a 5bet in live poker at 100bb is AA 99% of the time and a misread A4o 1% of the time. But obviously on-line it differs (based on just the hand above). I'm not so sure getting really good at the on-line environment at chicken feed stakes is helpful if it doesn't quite apply to your bread-and-butter stakes live environment, but I could wrong.

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Except a guy with $230 already cold-called $55. That guy is never folding in this spot for $55 more, and usually just jacking it in. So you’re likely to have to put in $230 here preflop with KQo if you just call again. And then you’ll be pot-committed to put the rest of your stack in on many flops, most of the times when you’re behind.

No I don't? When do I ever cold call a raise on the BTN with 75s? Even if I was bad enough to do that, I'd certainly fold to the 3bet.

In some ways, yes. It's always a big change mentally when you sit down at a LLSNL table and have to make huge adjustments like folding the top of your range, folding QQ/AK to 3bets and x/folding a perfect bluffing hand like 98 on a TT983 board with 4 hearts, instead of x/jamming, because you just know you're going to get stationed off by the naked Ace of hearts.

I still think that it's worth it though. And if I ever reach 5/10+ live, then these concepts will start to apply again.

I didn't know he was going to backjam though. If he's bad enough to cold call a $55 3bet whilst sitting on a $230 stack, then he's probably bad enough to flat the $110 pretty often too. I thought there was a decent chance that I'd be able to see a flop for just $55 more.

If you're jamming AKo for value, then he's beating a lot of your value range with 99, let alone bluffs... just a thought?

A spot I struggle with

Before I analyse this hand, I want to preface this by saying that I was watching a Nick Howard video recently where he was talking about population leaks at the small to mid stakes online. He said that one of the biggest leaks he found is that people do not defend their OOP checking range enough. I was just thinking about that and how, when we're OOP with the betting initiative, and we take the line of: Cbet flop, x/c turn and x river, how often are we actually calling a big river bet? On any runout? Here's a hand where villain put me in a very uncomfortable situation:

25NL online. Hero has $17.73 stack, villain covers

Villain opens $0.75 UTG
4 folds
Hero 3bets $3 BB with Jc Jh

I'm not even sure if this 3bet is correct or not. Maybe we should be flatting?

Flop ($6.10) is Ks Kh 3d

Hero bets $1.80
Villain calls $1.80

Turn ($9.70) is Ks Kh 3d 6d

Hero checks
Villain bets $4.85
Hero calls $4.85

River ($19.40) is Ks Kh 3d 6d 2s

Hero checks
Villain jams $8.08 effective
Hero calls $8.08



This brings up an interesting discussion:
1) Which hands should we barrel turn with and which hands should we x/c turn with?
2) Should we ever slowplay AK here?
3) Which hands should we be defending with on the river and which hands can we x/f?

we are never folding a pair that doesn't have a diamond in it and obv we should check Kx on the turn a good bit

The only Kx we even have is quads and AK though, given the preflop action. That's what makes it difficult. We can't check weak Kx hands and bet strong Kx hands like we'd usually do if we had some KQ/KJ hands in our range.

I guess if we defend all our JJ/QQ/AA no diamond, then that's a pretty good defence frequency.

Trying to bluff 3 ******s with A high, on a board you totally miss. Sounds plus ev,.. not.

you're supposed to 3bet KQs, KJs and KTs at some frequency that's the thing

Wut?

50NL online, $58 effective with HJ, $26 effective with BB

HJ opens $1.25
Hero 3bets $4.50 CO with KJhh
BB cold calls $4.50
HJ calls $4.50

Flop ($13.60) is Js 7h 2c

BB donk jams $21.71
HJ folds
Hero calls $21.71

BB shows Kc Qs?!

What about the AJo and KQo hands you posted from your last live session? You don't need to be passive to be a fish. There are also aggro fish, of which you are one. Aggressive poker is better than passive poker, but you take it way too far.

Hero has $17.73 stack (indicates fish)

Yeah, amongst regs/pros not playing with a full topped up stack is the biggest single sign of an online fish.